BOBCAT vs JCB TELESKID || SKIDLOADER || LORD MUCK

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5 жыл бұрын

We take a look at the Bobcat T650 vs the JCB Teleskid tracked skidsteer loaders.
There are other manufacturers such as Case, John Deere, Kubota and New Holland but the Bobcat is the one that sets the standard.
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JCB or Bobcat ?
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@WelkerFarms 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video Lord Muck!

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nick, glad you enjoyed it !

@jamesmullis6827 5 жыл бұрын

You addressed one of my biggest fears with most skidsteers, being trapped in the cab due to whatever. Electronic failure, fire, load shifting, etc. The thought of crawling out the back window over a hot possibly burning engine compartment is scary. The JCB is a definite improvement !

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

JCB has side, rear AND front exit panels.

@kp-qr6hy 2 жыл бұрын

It's a no brainer ,the JCB does everything the bobcat does and ten times more,we used it to lift a cow that had gone down ,we weren't on top of her the way we would have been with the Bobcat that extended boom is the game changer

@alexmattyspac7605 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a bobcat fan boy, that being said that jcb seems to be a nice machine, I'd definitely like to see one with 3000 plus hrs on it.

@davidlogel2350 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve put thousands of hours on one of the biggest skidsteers ever built, the 975 Clarke Bobcat. 14,000lbs wet. One thing I can tell you about them running them almost of my life is no manufacturer builds them like those 975 and 980’s were built. 35,000-40,000 hours on them and still going.

@chrisdavies8232 5 жыл бұрын

We have had our Bobcat near on 15 years and it has been the most practical and in expensive piece of kit we have owned. What we have got out of her compared to what we have put in eg maintenance ect is literally phenomenal.

@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 4 жыл бұрын

It's a great machine, better than the Bobcat, but over here Jcb you can't get parts for them.

@bekabeka71 4 жыл бұрын

You're very honest thoughtful and educative man with your language delivery

@joaquincortada1483 5 жыл бұрын

I think that JCB Teleskid would be great for my landscape business. We have 2 Bobcat machines and have treated us well. But that Teleskid would really help get into tight spaces and avoid damaging any existing plants and materials(curbs, pavers, tile, etc.)

@RockhillfarmYT 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Shopping for a skid steer atm and this helped

@jonb77 4 жыл бұрын

A really good video with some clear thinking based on actual usage and experience. I really appreciate the fair handed appraisal.

@StoneysWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын

Hah, OLF spoke of this in his video, and now it is on my recommended! Thanks for the video. That JCB looks cool

@jimzivny1554 4 жыл бұрын

Nice honest review. I've serviced and used Bobcats but I like the features of the JCB.

@chrisharding7203 5 жыл бұрын

That was a good point on the bobcat fuel filler position. Too many operators that work on the idea of "if it starts and goes then why check it?" Idea. A good comparison, thank you.

@martinmeasures829 5 жыл бұрын

What a great demo, thankyou, I drive telescopic handler in the construction industry and I much prefer the jcb models, they just seem better designed for the end user, but that's my personal opinion. I'd love to have a go in a skid steer after driving the big 20metre telehandler the skid steers look good fun.

@jefferykeeper9034 2 жыл бұрын

I've had two Bobcats both were good machines but I'm impressed with what JBC is doing !!!

@bcwrangler 3 жыл бұрын

All my experience is in Bobcats and if I had say in a new piece it would more than likely be JCB for the entry and extension....game changers for me!

@derekdreke4990 3 жыл бұрын

The thing is if you ever have to work outside with the boom and a regular skiddy you always have to have a friend that's part of why the JCB is such a game changer ! Tons of options with that machine TBH it's really in a class of it's own

@thomaswilkinson3468 5 жыл бұрын

Working on drilling rigs using a JCB forklift with telescopic booms did have great advantages working in heights. The huge drawback is when the boom is elevated it become a huge field of view blocker and if there isn’t any one around for directions it can become quite a deterrent.

@phalanx3803 5 жыл бұрын

its nice with the telescopic boom you can reach across a truck to pick up stuff unlike a normal fork lift where you have to go around to the other side.

@steviewander2693 5 жыл бұрын

Always thought the JCBs looked like a robot or a toy. Never took it serious. Then I tried one earlier this year. I couldnt believe how much better the view is. I was COMPLETELY shocked. Ill never buy any other machine.

@rogerholloway8498 5 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison today, thank you!

@peterfeeney721 10 ай бұрын

Great brief, your Lordship. Spot on. Thank you.

@derekdreke4990 3 жыл бұрын

The only difference of choosing a regular type skid is if you're doing some serious break out digging work. The traditional style would be more suited for that

@democrasywins 4 жыл бұрын

great demo plus interesting insight i hadn't thought of thanks eh

@TheFarmingLife 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Thanks for taking time out putting it together. We just bought a new John Deere 330g and we love it we did demo many different machines. Have a great day

@markrandall1969 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. The Bobcat has been standard issue in the USA for donkeys year but I was most impressed with the JCB when I looked at it with Saunders at Grasslands this year.

@anthonyfranklin5990 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid mate this is what your need to see when your looking for new gear , great job

@imdeplorable2241 2 жыл бұрын

The JCB just seems so much more versatile. Great review. Well done, sir. Well done.👍

@bobmcbob8732 5 жыл бұрын

Both share alot of components(mcr hydraulic motors for drive of tracks) made by bosch Well made stuff, I work there and they invest heavily in quality tooling fixturing...

@cbboggs6459 5 жыл бұрын

I have owned Bobcats for 50 years. I have operated them all. As far as I can see they are all good when they run. The newest machine I own is a 2007. I keep them maintained faithfully. I have run some new machines and hate them all. Mostly because of the so called sophisticated controls ( electric over hydraulic. According to a certain manufacturer, the wiring harnesses at the control levers fatigue and break. The cost to repair it is $350.00 ish. So, I want mechanical controls, if I lose a linkage pin it's easy to fix. Bottom line is I want to pull a lever and know it will work rather than push a button and hope it works.

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

Yes Paul, the knowledge that the lever is in direct control is very reassuring ! Electronics for better or worse are a sign of modern times.

@tyler12ddm 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not a fan of the electric over hydraulic myself. I can finesse the levers exactly as I please with the older machines and the newer ones seem too quick for me. I know on the CAT machine my boss has it's hard for me to operate the arms and buckets at just the right speed.

@joaquincortada1483 5 жыл бұрын

The hard part is figuring out which darn wire harness is bad! Those things are everywhere in these new machines

@jimlondon1 5 жыл бұрын

Looks a bit of a game changer the JCB. I'd like to see how well they hold up after a couple of thousand hours. If the x series excavators have had reliability and build quality issues of previous models addressed, then I hope it's a trend that continues with every JCB product. My boss took delivery of 10 new 3cx's and have been plagued with problems. I'm currently on a JZ141 that refused to start after 216hrs. Such a shame because I 've been a big fan of JCB from a young age. I really hope they sort themselves out soon....

@tobysmith2564 5 жыл бұрын

Cheers, that was a fascinating comparison between two capable machines 👍

@williebourke9962 4 жыл бұрын

The jcb wins hands down because of its telescopic forks x door access. BUT lord mucks just there to compare .A very non judgemental review of both mackines .

@casto- 5 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison. I've never been in a skidsteer yet but can see the advantages of the jcb design. I watch an American channel the other day and he was talking about the expense and wear comparison between wheel and tracked loaders.

@workhardlivefree3818 5 жыл бұрын

I was going to question the torsion on the boom being offset... but it looked like it handled it flawlessly without any sort of flexing

@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid , will get a demo JCB and see Cheers Rob NSW Australia (ex herne bay Kent )

@catdieselpower193 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid my friend Bobcat makes a fine machine but this vid and compare is clearly JCB Is the blue ribbon!!

@danielsweeney6742 5 жыл бұрын

How farms work just got a JCB for a month trial. I bet Ryan's thoughts might be like yours.

@MrPaul1f 5 жыл бұрын

Bloody good video Kurt, a really good and subjective review. As someone who has only ever run bobcat machines i could see pleanty of advantages to jcb's offering particularly on a dairy farm.

@hywelisthebest 5 жыл бұрын

Hopped in a teleskid not long ago and so easy to just get in and drive - especially how you can have drive on one joystick and loader on the other.

@onelonleyfarmer 5 жыл бұрын

The end of this video was a load of SHIT!!!! well in reality it was but hay all jokes aside this little teliskid looks awesome.. i use my CT332 john deere all the time and i can see how this would be way nicer... i have been trapped in the cab by hay before its a pain in the ass... lift the boom spin around at high speed and it flies off to the side busting the hydraulic mounts and the bale in the process.... backstops are key to stopping that from happening. oh one more thing!!!! why would anyone lift 4 tons?? or run with it alll the way up on uneven ground???? BECAUSE WE CAN!!!!!lol hahahahahahah

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

You don't get any better Wes ! Yes it was a load of shit and old straw ! You know someone will always try and go that bit further with any machine.

@onelonleyfarmer 5 жыл бұрын

I'm you guy for that lol!!! @@LordMuck

@harrisharvester 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent review kurt. And well put together look forward to the next.👍

@anels9 Жыл бұрын

Very good comprehensive review of 2 concepts executed differently in the same settings. I always wondered how a Teleskid compared and this video covered that

@kimblastein Жыл бұрын

From all the countless videos i have watch on youtube from My favorit youtubers and all the rumours i have heard about bobcat they seem to spend more time in the workshop then working

@ResidentialDirtWork 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like skid steer world maybe changing!

@jimscales8054 5 жыл бұрын

That teleboom would be handy in every scenario I can think of... unfortunately we don't have any JCB dealers in our area which has always been a shame many times in the past

@chrisclose7793 10 ай бұрын

The jcb offers more than the bobcat but bobcat have their fans but I find jcb have taken operator safety into account and comfort/ space and ease of access

@stephenross1581 5 жыл бұрын

Thank for an interesting and honest review, Stephen

@JJ_MacLeod 5 жыл бұрын

Love a comparison video. I think the JCB is where I'd put my money - Looks a lot more thought out overall for the operator.

@garethmcmahon9769 5 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed that. Thought the JCB was a bit of a gimmick but having watched the whole lot it has a lot of positives. Spent a few summers on my uncles farm driving a bobcat great machine the loader was worked using footpedals.

@eduardvisscher 5 жыл бұрын

Really interesting vid, all things a farmer should know in there. Great job thnx Muck

@AgriFarmModelsTV 5 жыл бұрын

excellent video ! keep up the good work !

@liamhill6546 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I work for jcb Tc harrisons and have tested the design and features in the yard, I can only see one problem with jcb and that it’s very sensitive but never the lest powerful and quick. There are 3 different speed modes on it to control speed with a further “rabbit mode” to go even quicker. The servicing looks easy to access ( yippee for me ) but then the engine work is quite covered up, however the cab winds up (like the teletruck) giving the best access for the hydraulic motor and valve block for changing hoses if they get worn down but over all it’s a good machine and the heater is bloody awesome on it !

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

The control sensitivity parameters can be altered by the laptop program.

@DumbOhioFarmboy 5 жыл бұрын

@@LordMuck you should be able to adjust the sensitivity of the controls on the fly on the top right hand display.

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

Yes you can with the 3 modes but each of these can be altered and set further by the laptop connection to give even better control.

@mattdooley6206 5 жыл бұрын

JCB skid steer for sure pretty good machine bobcat skid steers are ok

@mikesmith-yc3os 5 жыл бұрын

cracking review very in depth spot on

@bradcoley6964 5 жыл бұрын

thank you we have been interested in the tele skid since seeing it at the farm show . I just like the side entrance best of all after climbing in my deere for years looks like a great machine

@cubleycat 3 жыл бұрын

Crackin video , simple and logical explanation and demonstration. Hell yes at last an English youtuber doing great videos, I love Americans (sorry but not sorry if ya dont like it) but its great to see some good content from the UK, just subscribed and going to recommend you to some friends too.

@MrMjdi 5 жыл бұрын

I'd love a skid steer for working around the cattle yards at home. They would be ideal for cleaning out the straw bedded sheds 👍😎

@grounds4life 4 жыл бұрын

Good Video! I Ended Up Going With Kubota.... But Good Video!

@KarasCyborg 5 жыл бұрын

I like the JCB Design, they have got some great ideas. Agreed -- that fuel port location is terrible though. I think when you are loading rocks and dirt into a truck, theres a good chance you could break the bobcats windshield should a rock dance along the edge of the dump truck bed and come back down on you. The JCB had some sort of rock-armor grid on the front windshield to protect against rocks. I also like being able to lift the boom to a few feet off the ground load the back of a pickup and then get out of the cab to unsecure / secure loads. Can't do that with the bobcat because the boom has to be all the way down to get out. You can Remote Control the T-650, but that's a $10,000 dollar add on accessory. Would have been nice to show the costs involved with 500/1000 hour maintenance for each machine. If you get a chance check out the Diverto from the Netherlands.

@benbright5382 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid nice to see honest reviews on you tube mucka.

@caseybhargraves6208 5 жыл бұрын

Great video... nice job!!!

@raptureready9502 4 жыл бұрын

Very innovative

@hphillips7425 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. I like the JCB more after watching your video. I am claustrophobic and would feel better with the side door

@morgansword 5 жыл бұрын

I can only imagine that they come with all the attachments to do post holes and just about everything it takes to make a sandwich. I love that side entrance for sure

@jamieshields9521 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid, great comparison👍 the bobcat has small screen which makes hard to see, reversing would be pain with support bar blocking view. I do like bobcat engine bay over JCB. JCB has lights at back of cab which is good n telehandler boom is make it more versatile then normal skidsteers.

@midwesthall 4 жыл бұрын

ITS LIKE DESIGNING THEIR BENTLY OR RR...THE BRITS WOULD THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX....MORE CUSTOMER FRIENDLY MORE COMFORT / VIEW...EASY ACCESS AND DEPARTURE OF MACHINE. I SAW ONE OF THESE JCB AT FT-FARFAN IN SAN JUAN IN 2006 WHILE WE DID WORK ON A HUGE APARTMENT BUILDING NOT TOO FAR OFF.

@catherinewoodbine2500 5 жыл бұрын

Cool

@paulbrown4850 5 жыл бұрын

Great video mucker, remember and keep in mind about the co-ab with warter priory 😂

@matthewdowd4686 5 жыл бұрын

I like the innovative telescoping arm on the JCB but bobcats way more prevalent where I live. Don’t see many JCB around here. I play farm sim 19 and I love all the JCB equipment in the game. The fastrac is great.

@backyardcrashandbash6438 4 жыл бұрын

I like the design of jcb’s skid steer but I like bobcat better cause they oppress more compact and good for where I am using it

@michaeltoner129 4 жыл бұрын

Aye we have a bobcat on wheels ther a good job

@BMRStudio 5 жыл бұрын

Can I love both of them? :)

@ianaitken5050 5 жыл бұрын

I've operated both machines and if I was going out with my own money to buy one I'd go for the jcb all day its just a better machine to spend time in and being telescopic is a huge advantage.

@AndreasdeV308 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks nice video.

@nathanbrodeur 5 жыл бұрын

The visibility and safety and the ability to get out of the JCB at any time even when the arm is up just in case you have to go to the loo

@3DogKnight 5 жыл бұрын

I would imagine there would be significant bucket twist when digging with the JCB.

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

The headstock is extremely well built and has a flared web design to counteract twist. Would be interesting to see one after a few thousand hours.

@tylerpaul6711 5 жыл бұрын

Sounding like a broken record here but they guarantee the boom for life. But I am with you I would like to see one with hours on it. If you look on the internet it seems the JCB is plaqued with problems and isn't making it to high hours. That said I have not heard of any boom issues, it is all engine trouble

@adamhenderson8601 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks this is really helpful

@stuartandrews4344 5 жыл бұрын

Want to try the JCB 1CXT tracked backhoe loader,just superb to use, JCB has a winner with it.

@B.nanana 5 жыл бұрын

the only down side i have found with one arm loaders is that when your scraping it will try to dig in more on one side and its harder on the arm

@causewayfarming4x494 5 жыл бұрын

I Had Bobcat loaders for 20 years great machines. But climbing in the cab knacked my back. Got kramer 1245 machine

@richkavanagh5516 5 жыл бұрын

As an experienced real world construction worker .ie done a lot of machine work .spent six months trying to get a 1cx and it was the best money I spent . Let's dig 18 said Jcb means just crap British ?. Shows how much he knows about diggers .ps I've worked as a banks man for ten years before operate ting a machine . ?love the mix of your vids.

@michealhume3259 5 жыл бұрын

Will never use either machine just love to see your vids mucca 👍

@flienlow6281 5 жыл бұрын

great video!

@Bazza1973ify 5 жыл бұрын

Stick a set of tines on one, probably be the best forklift you'll ever use, it makes a huge difference being close to the tines & actually being able to see what you're doing, we had old school Ford wheeled skid steers L445, L553 & L785. 785 was unbelievable, it'd give a 3cx a run for it's money on front bucket, 553 was good but a little light on back end, we added some cast weights to both sides of chassis behind rear wheels, 445 was small & light but a bit unstable but it was good for accessing small areas or crossing foot bridges (which you probably wouldn't be allowed to do nowadays) I used 445 for 2 weeks on nights resurfacing platforms on Peterborough railway station, had to use foot bridge to get from one platform to other, given the choice I'd take the 785 as long as it wasn't too far, as transporting it was a bitch, it was bloody heavy.

@iowamatt2519 5 жыл бұрын

As a Concrete contractor and a bobcat owner for 25 years, multi machines, multi sizes, I wouldn't switch. That jcb would never stand up to the trauma of tear out or have the capability of hydraulic attachments. We don't run doors for 7 months of the year, so we can get in and out with the arms up. Each machine serves certain customers is all that I see

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

That's exactly right Matt, that's why folks should try these machines to see which one works best for them.

@tylerpaul6711 5 жыл бұрын

I own a bobcat but have looked at the jcb. JCB claims the use more steel in their boom than any of the competitors. They also give a guarantee on that boom for life. No one eles is doing that. They seem to be very confident of this boom design. I have welded countless cat and bobcat booms, they fail regularly. I have noticed JCB doesn't have a good resale value, bobcat and cat do better there. Bobcat switched from the kubota to a doosan engine as doosan bought bobcat out, so we will see if they remain as popular and reliable as they have been. Cat is way over rated in my opinion

@justinburns7073 5 жыл бұрын

We use our jcb for concrete work. It holds up great. It's an amazing machine for concrete work acctually. And we are rougher on that jcb that anyone could ever ever imagine. I'll never ever ever ever run a bobcat again. This jcb is absolutly amazing. Unbelieveable acctually.

@Mylife-md1zv 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video !! Always been a jcb fan

@derekdreke4990 4 жыл бұрын

The JCB is a game changer yeah if i was grading dirt and doing serious digging on a regular basis and I would probably stick with the traditional skiddy but man the teleskid is one of the greatest inventions of all time

@SkidderKev 5 жыл бұрын

JCB has some nice advantages to it. The side access which would be really nice and the zoom boom. Also compared to the kubota the heating cooling duct work in the came looks way nicer

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you've watched it Kev as you can see any advantages/disadvantages with both maxhines.

@paulfreeman2259 5 жыл бұрын

cracking vid, very educational

@doncarlo5 3 жыл бұрын

I've been always a BOBCAT fan, but considering my fork lift experience, I wold definitely go for the JCB ... I certainly get your point ...

@tompeeters66 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video! Really enjoyed watching it ;) greetings from the Netherlands

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tom, glad you enjoyed it

@blairl1841 5 жыл бұрын

I am a JCB man so there’s no surprise that the JCB is the best

@cyberbiker0 5 жыл бұрын

nice video. excellent design by JCB to try a side boom & side door. i was almost expecting a biased view/review towards 1 or the other. so i liked how it was balanced between the 2 machines. people can tell when a product is trying to be pushed. infomercials are notorious for that. anyways, i bet other manufacturers are shooting themselves for not thinking up the extendable boom concept.

@killstrees 5 жыл бұрын

Back in the early 2000's when I first learned of the old Robots, I wondered how long it would take them to come up with this machine.

@RedboneUnincorporated 3 жыл бұрын

JCB for the win!

@elmcustomharvesting1072 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Lot of good points we just bought a new John Deere 330g and we like it very much. We have a push ramp to load hi trailers.

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

That's the good thing about the telescopic boom - you can load anywhere at anytime without a ramp.

@rodyates1 4 жыл бұрын

What would really be impressive would be improved access to the engine. It could be done so easily. Try putting out an engine fire sometime!

@ThatRoadrunner 5 жыл бұрын

What kind of idiot distributor puts a sticker right in front of your line of sight on the windshield like that? Like, is your company so important that it should stand in the way of an operator being able to see something? That's my only complaint. Really enjoyed the video, and didn't even know JCB made telescopic track loaders! Thanks for taking the time to make this.

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

I know exactly what you're saying but strangely enough, when sat in the cab it didn't actually come into view. Camera made it look worse. Glad you enjoyed the vid !

@MJModding 5 жыл бұрын

I love the jcb

@RobertStlouis-hx3wt 5 жыл бұрын

That was a well thought out review. Really fun to watch. I love that JCB. Look forward to watching any other reviews you make. Ty

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Robert

@georgewalker2497 5 жыл бұрын

i find the jcb control levers big and cumbersome I used an older 06 ag spec 536 60 and the lever was similar but was mounted at the same level as the operator's thigh witch I actually found was very comfortable and intuitive

@LordMuck 5 жыл бұрын

The Bobcat levers are even bigger !

@essexpeter6116 5 жыл бұрын

Another good one LM. I have only sat briefly in a tracked Bobcat a few years ago that my cousin was putting into a container for Africa. I felt it was horribly claustrophobic and for some reason found the controls counter intuitive (would the pedals have operated the lift and the sticks the tracks?) Cheers