Body Armour Vests of the British Army

Body Armour Vests of the British Army | 1940 - 2016

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In 1940, the first Body Armour vest for the British Army was designed, which would later go onto see service in the three major Airborne Operations undertaken in 1944 and 1945. Not only did it offer something new for the Army, but it also laid the foundations for future designs, including I.N.I.B.A., C.B.A. and the Osprey vests. In this video, I detail the History of all these vests right up to the withdrawal from service of the Osprey Mk4 Body Armour Vest in 2016.
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@kaiusbellum107 5 жыл бұрын

ECBA, best bit of warm kit I was ever issued

@CabbageBloke 5 жыл бұрын

ECBA under a smock, with Gore Tex over the top is a win.

@phairecouchpotato3912 4 жыл бұрын

We wear those in the Bermuda Regiment

@tagg976 4 жыл бұрын

Especially when wearing you Gortex on top... Boil in the bag or what LOL ;-)

@CabbageBloke 4 жыл бұрын

@@BlokeintheUK Most definitely 👍

@clarksavage6050 4 жыл бұрын

Body Warmour.

@Weaponsandstuff93 4 жыл бұрын

Very good video but a slight correction, the old Northern Ireland era flak jackets had a ballistic nylon filler rather than kevlar, nowhere near as good in terms of protection hence why the vests were so thick.

@patrickn2858 3 жыл бұрын

Love your videos mate 👍🏼

@Caver461 4 жыл бұрын

INIBA - don't recall ever having a way to wash those things. A distinctive stench followed patrols around.

@tomsoki5738 4 жыл бұрын

Caver461 you can take the liner out it’s just really hard and frustrating to put it back in, trust me haha, you just wash the cover but yeah you can’t wash the liner or plates

@TheWeeklyLawReports 4 жыл бұрын

A very informative and interesting video, you have clearly done your research and your narration is top notch. Thank you!

@YuNOmeme 4 жыл бұрын

9:17 best looking desert pattern of its day! Although uncle sams choc chip pattern looked sexy as well!

@xAlexTobiasxB 4 жыл бұрын

Hah Gayyyyyy

@grahamconquerghc2358 4 жыл бұрын

Worst USAs digital cam

@cammid2110 4 жыл бұрын

Sr.Splittington I got give an ex medics kit when he left the army in 2010 very sexy kit

@seumasnatuaighe 4 жыл бұрын

Well done on your research. I was issued a Brit vest in 2011 when in Afghan. The vest was dark earth with PALS tapes, velcro and 3 quickloks each side and a break away tab at the throat. The front ceramic plate was 13x11 inch and the back 12x10, both 3D curved. It was very comfortable and easy to configure and adjust. The vest label was gone so I don't know the make or mark but the plates were made in N. Ireland.

@lateapex9420 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I served 1996-2002 in the Royal Marines. The hardest thing I ever did in the Corps was remove and replace that damn liner on the CBA system. :)

@EthanThomson 4 жыл бұрын

Late Apex was part of the fitness and aptitude test the removal of the liner?

@iitacticalhd6634 4 жыл бұрын

@@EthanThomson It is obvious. Aptitude test.

@andrewjohnston4127 5 жыл бұрын

I've also seen photos of British troops wearing US body armour during the Korean war

@geykumethefrog6727 4 жыл бұрын

Its the same with the white army in the civil war the u.s. and british gave them standard issue gear and weapons

@australianword3812 4 жыл бұрын

@@geykumethefrog6727 White Army?

@geykumethefrog6727 4 жыл бұрын

@@australianword3812 the Russians in 1919

@australianword3812 4 жыл бұрын

@@geykumethefrog6727 then please specify which civil war you're talking about

@geykumethefrog6727 4 жыл бұрын

@@australianword3812 the russian one shortly after ww1

@danielwhyatt3278 4 жыл бұрын

This was the perfect level of informative and monotone.

@cdc194 4 жыл бұрын

I was in the US Army and was still wearing the M69 (or a very similar variant) in early 2001 as an Infantryman in training. It wasn't until 9/11 that a serious focus on body armor was made and a serious production and fielding effort was made.

@CabbageBloke 5 жыл бұрын

The Kestrel Body Armour or as we called it 'Top Cover Body Armour' was first issued with the same plates from the ECBA. We got it first in Iraq on Op Telic 6

@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын

Probably talking about the Merlin, Kestrel’s predecessor.

@vectisviking6969 3 жыл бұрын

I'm wearing it in my pic, had the small ballistic plates front and rear and was a bitch to put on and operate in (Basra 05)

@trechtzach8151 2 жыл бұрын

@@vectisviking6969 that's Merlin, not the Kestrel. Kestrel are for Osprey plates. Some people had the old Ceradyne plates in them which could stop 50 BMG.

@ThrottleTherapyyy 4 жыл бұрын

you would think in 2020 it would all be sorted and there would be a abundance of Body Armour, but even to this day blokes are getting shafted at the QM's and not getting issued Body Armour unless they are on a specific "List" Great video mate

@gordonlawrence4749 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't realise body armour went all the way back to the 40's. Then again there was some weird stuff in WWI too and if you really want to go nuts they had chainmail in Hastings.

@delta2372 4 жыл бұрын

They had body armor as far back as WW1

@gordonlawrence4749 4 жыл бұрын

@@delta2372 I already said that.

@wargey3431 4 жыл бұрын

Delta 23 and have fun wearing it your most probably more likely to die if you use it than not as most bullets would go through and if they didn’t the spalling would most probably hurt

@davidmorris1735 4 жыл бұрын

Still get issued ECBA during basic training, went through in 2018. Best bit of warm kit going.

@woodybenjam 5 жыл бұрын

Your videos are all epic! Great work.

@georginadove2775 4 жыл бұрын

In 1970 in ireland we had what we called Flak jackets i am sure at the time they were second hand from the Yanks in Vietnam because some of them had invisible mending bullet holes in them,this is only my observation i could be wrong.

@aaa111912 4 жыл бұрын

we (1 para) had the flak jacket type when we first went there in 1969

@paganphil100 4 жыл бұрын

John Dove: Yes, most of them were ex-Vietnam. They were designed to stop shrapnel, not bullets.....even a pistol bullet (Browning 9mm) went straight through them at close range as we discovered when we tested one on the ranges in Germany (but at least they kept us warm in Winter).

@georginadove2775 4 жыл бұрын

@Nik Nik Would you like to elaborate on that.

@georginadove2775 4 жыл бұрын

@Nik Nik I don't have to do research, i was there wearing one in 1970 with the Royal Greenjackets, what makes you an authority

@georginadove2775 4 жыл бұрын

Luv u 2 "prick".

@JJ-xe2gr 4 жыл бұрын

Top quality as always

@neutralpeace647 4 жыл бұрын

its like a balance. the more you carry the more slow you become but the more protected you are

@jakeanomics 4 жыл бұрын

Really good video. But you didn’t mention a primary design change during the osprey generations, the plate pocket opening was inverted in the MKIII; due to many reasons. Namely the zip rupturing and injuring the face during an IED strike. Shortly followed buy the plate hitting the casualty in the face. In the MKIV it was integrated to provide a relatively flat surface so secondary injury’s from a blast were limited.

@LaunchedHalo 4 жыл бұрын

idk why youtube is recommending this to me but i love it

@kwkwkwkw6411 5 жыл бұрын

Could you do a video on current and/or (possible) future British soldier equipment? Great vids so far :)

@shinrakitsune4967 4 жыл бұрын

Great video bro well made and presented.

@lalruatdikavarte7943 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video and very informative and very entertaining and very satisfaction.

@TheLifeOfDan1 4 жыл бұрын

Great video this! Subbed!

@gavinkempsell5211 Жыл бұрын

Incredibly detailed, thank you.

@jasb499 4 жыл бұрын

Went on to youtube to see how to fix my bike, this was recommended and i thought to myself ehh, im getting modern warfare in a few days might as well freshen up

@ColoursCapello 4 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with your bike though?

@jasb499 4 жыл бұрын

@@ColoursCapello the chains skipping really bad

@atnorange5491 4 жыл бұрын

AC 130 INCOMING

@mr.everwind5225 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I'm about to get r/wooshed but what you said is inadvertently hilarious If you can fix a bike, you can fix a car If you can fix a car, you can fix a tank If you can fix a tank, you can.....

@user-hq4zu6wd9p 4 жыл бұрын

Отличное видео! Прекрасно изложенный материал!!!!

@trumanhw 3 жыл бұрын

A+++. Very informative. Thanks!!

@PTQ4Q4Q4Q4 4 жыл бұрын

Good video, very informative.

@scottw0028 4 жыл бұрын

I love how the osprey mk4 looks

@comradepierogi 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s pretty neat. Has lots of place for pouches and stuff. However it’s empty weight is ~2kg, add kevlar, plates and magazines, and you’re carrying 10+ kilograms of weight, of not more.

@tomsoki5738 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve got one of those buggers, the most bulky body armour I own and I own almost all of the ones on this video, trust me it’s not fun to wear for long

@randommadness1021 3 жыл бұрын

Nice change of pace 👍

@paulroberts3686 5 жыл бұрын

Like your work pal !

@pcat1378 4 жыл бұрын

Tank crews also got issued a role specific cover for the ECBA which allowed them to carry a pistol and mags, with pockets for a 'bug out kit' as Tank crews cannot wear webbing when mounted. This was mainly issued only to the commander of the vehicle.

@fabianodenatale6681 4 жыл бұрын

1940: *Error 404, body Armour not found*

@mdr1396 4 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@brendanmatelan2129 4 жыл бұрын

Just want to point out, the M52 and M69 Vests weren't Kevlar. They were Ballistic Nylon, Kevlar wasn't finalized until the early to mid 70s. It's not until the 1980s that the U.S. would issue the PASGT, which replaced the older Nylon vests.

@adamritchie3481 4 жыл бұрын

This man has the smoothest voice

@Jinn174 4 жыл бұрын

I have worn the osprey body armour, when you take it off after a few hours of wearing it you feel like you are flying, the version i wore weighed 14kg

@stevenwithanl115 4 жыл бұрын

wow

@joncawte6150 4 жыл бұрын

I wore the M69 at various units, on main gate stag, in the mid/late 80s

@colp9492 4 жыл бұрын

We were issued the kestrel stuff in early 2005 was complete load of crap took 3 people to put it on 1 bloke and then he couldn’t move his arms. Loads of us acquired American interceptor vests

@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын

Kestrel and Marlin vests needs breaking in. The reliance of ice packs for cooling is a stupid idea.

@colp9492 4 жыл бұрын

爾靈山 agreed the idea of ice packs was a joke

@tomsoki5738 4 жыл бұрын

You mean you knicked them from a humvee! Haha

@thetechoasis2179 3 жыл бұрын

say what you will about it but it saved my life and deflected 7.62x39 round into my lung and saved my Heart thus saving my life. a collapsed lung vs instant death gives me a massive soft spot for the vest.

@colp9492 3 жыл бұрын

TheTechOasis the chest plate over our hearts in ECBA front and back is mega that’s why we still use them. The vest design we got issued to try with sawn on arms and a massive neck piece was a load of rubbish. Our top cover lads refused to wear them and went back to standard ECBA vests and plates.

@simonsignolet5632 3 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing the MRC Body Armour in army surplus stores, back in the 1980s. An unsellable curio, they were about £25-40 IIRC. Can't imagine what they must fetch these days... They were used by Glider Pilots during the flight in. Once landed, I don't think they continued wearing it: it probably went into the bergen. That said, if they wore it under the Dennison Smock, who'd know?

@kellyedmonds4772 4 жыл бұрын

I love your channel. Interesting content, well researched. Do you have patreon?

@elgatosiesta 4 жыл бұрын

In 2004, I had plates made in like the 80’s. They where so heavy, I hated them s.o.b’s😂 U.S.A.F Security Forces here! Great video👍

@John-ym9ht 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting video. It's strange that they didnt just improve upon the best US body armor being used at the time, for their first try. Instead, they kind of reinvented the wheel with 4 or 5 tries. The cost is huge I'm sure but I believe every one our guys need the best protection it's possible to give them

@wargey3431 4 жыл бұрын

John I think they wanted to go back to the WW2 style with plates in the jackets that may have a chance of stopping bullets to the heart which at the time Kevlar wouldn’t have unless it was a 9mm so developed the armour plates but yea to some extent it does seem silly that they even moved away from the WW2 armour which was reportedly very good although heavy the paras reportedly loved it that would have been much more effective than the standard British reinvention of everything

@dogsnads5634 4 жыл бұрын

The US was having its own issues with body armour. The original flak jackets weren't much use. It was the development of the ceramic plates that was the game changer. ECBA was very good in its day.

@moj6241 5 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, the MK 4 Osprey was first issued in DDPM but in extremely low numbers, there are videos and pictures of this, then the MK4 was issued in a Tan drab colour, before finally being replaced in MTP

@garethfairclough8715 4 жыл бұрын

As I understood, the mk 3 was "osprey assault" and that was in the desert pattern, then mk 4 was that but in MTP colours. Could be completely wrong though!

@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын

@@garethfairclough8715 MK4 did come in a variety of colours. Solid tan, desert DPM, and 2 shades of MTP. Supposedly there is a hybrid out there.

@garethfairclough8715 4 жыл бұрын

I only stored, ordered and issued the stuff out. Not that I'd know anything :P All the docs I ever saw referred to the desert "osprey assault" as the Mk2. The different shades of MTP versions were trials variants from what I remember, during the pre PCS days when MTP itself was still under development as well as the replacement clothing for '95 pattern gear.

@steveswitzer4353 4 жыл бұрын

Class keep it up i know the 1970s one well from NI

@ColourOfTheGods Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to cover the UKSF body armour systems in terms of the Paraclete systems/Gentex helmets, etc..

@Gen1sisKSW 4 жыл бұрын

A brilliant and well researched video. However, when speaking of the Mk4 you missed the Mk4A which saw use in the later Herricks, and use until replaced with the Virtus kit. All in, great video and brought back some memories of wearing the Mk4A out there.

@mac4564 4 жыл бұрын

Gen1sis It was the mk6 we had, the mk6a came in during the later Herricks. I was on Herrick 11 with a mk6a and we got issued the mk7 towards the back of that tour as our tour rolled over into the first 2 months of Herrick 12.

@garethfairclough8715 4 жыл бұрын

Gen was talking about armour, not helmets mate.

@Gen1sisKSW 4 жыл бұрын

No, I'm talking about the Mk4 Osprey, not the Mk4 "turtle" helmet. There wasn't much of a difference between the two. The Mk4A fastened differently on the front with an extra Velcro flap that closed the armour, as aposed to the two clips on the Mk4. I was issued the Mk4A on Herrick 19. Maybe I'm mistaken by the designation though and we just unofficially called it the Mk4A?

@commando552 4 жыл бұрын

@@Gen1sisKSW What you are describing with the velcro flap is not a different vest, it is just a different way of configuring it. The fold down panel at the front that covers the velcro is called the "Ops Panel" and can be used with just that, and is the most streamlined version of the Mk4. On top of this you can add stand alone side plate bags but these are very clunky, a better solution being to use the cummerbunds (with built in side plate pouches) which attach at the back and wrap around to the front to fasten with the two clips. I don't think there is a difference between the Mk4 and Mk4A (or if there is it is very minor and to do with construction methods), this designation was mainly because they started issuing new pouches with it.

@non-masturbatingtyrannosau3476 4 жыл бұрын

The only difference between mk4 and mk4a is the left shoulder, on the mk4a it has molle on left shoulder while the mk4 doesn't

@ianmills9266 2 жыл бұрын

Going to point out that kestrel and osprey were introduced because ecba didn't stop bullets.

@SteveVi0lence 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! I thought it was odd the mod would issue the body armor for right handed shooters (best grip surface) rather than having it on both sides, after y'all do use the L86 bullpup with the charging handle on the right hand side lol

@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын

It’s not impossible to fire the SA80 left handed, just not with the standard shooting position. You do it for CQB when you shoot using the EBS.

@EthanThomson 4 жыл бұрын

If you fire an SA80 from the normal stance left handed, you lose teeth

@HTCN-ki3on 5 жыл бұрын

The intro😮😮

@duncandunn1930 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see pwo in film

@rdjhardy Жыл бұрын

We were still issued INIBA in our 1993-95 tour in Omagh.

@mollysmoshingtankcrew9441 4 жыл бұрын

I love how the armored divisions first got the body armor Sure give the guy in a tank a vest. *Facepalm* It's a joke.

@davidscoltock3970 4 жыл бұрын

MollysMoshing TankCrew you do know the core of an armoured division is infantry mounted in apcs right? The armoured divisions would be the spearhead and first to engage and be mobilised. Makes perfect sense for them to get the best gear first.

@G1NZOU 4 жыл бұрын

@@davidscoltock3970 plus the fact that mechanised infantry can better cope with having very heavy body armour in addition to their regular gear, since they're riding into battle instead of having to yomp, makes perfect sense that they get the armour that everyone else is complaining is heavy.

@mollysmoshingtankcrew9441 4 жыл бұрын

@@davidscoltock3970 did you not see the part where I said " it's a joke"

@davewolfy2906 4 жыл бұрын

@@G1NZOU The Army does not "yomp".

@G1NZOU 4 жыл бұрын

@@davewolfy2906 the Paras did in the Falklands.

@Dog.soldier1950 5 жыл бұрын

The Marines issued me a m69 in 73

@anon343 3 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is the E.C.B.A sounds so Arab when pronounced literally, never realised that until watching this. But in all seriousness keep up the good work man.

@1brytol 3 жыл бұрын

Mistake: INIBA and earlier vests weren't kevlar, but ballistic nylon. CBA was the first British Kevlar vests

@wasdwazd 6 ай бұрын

I just discovered the ECBA while looking up different kinds of 'retro' vests to wear for airsoft. The covers are dirt cheap, you could get one for less than 20 dollars, sans shipping.

@benjaminmoogk3531 2 жыл бұрын

Was the MRC Vests the same ones issued for the attack on Verrier Ridge and for Operation Totalize in Normandy?

@big-chunguswiththeglizzy685 2 жыл бұрын

he should talk about the actual plates used not just carrier

@trechtzach8151 2 жыл бұрын

There is little to no technical info about the actual plates, the MOD doesn't publish that sort of data. The only data on armor with info is the Ceradyne 12.7mm (50 cal) plates and the stuff used by the RMP/MOD Police, because the specs are on the labels.

@Ks-zv6js 4 жыл бұрын

Always wondered what it would be like to fill body armour with hand warmers or hot water bottle

@Tremulousnut 2 жыл бұрын

You can do the reverse and fill them with ice packs.

@flyingmanforfun 4 жыл бұрын

Would have liked to know the protection level of all the plates too

@trechtzach8151 2 жыл бұрын

The specs doesn't exist, and info requests to the MOD gets shot down. The only vests with written specs are Aegis Engineering vests issued to the RMP and the MOD Police.

@gunner678 4 жыл бұрын

The flak jackets were absolute rubbish for the purpose for which they were issued. Warm though. The CBA was pretty poor but something I suppose.

@robertbogan225 4 жыл бұрын

Flak jackets where issued to plane crews to protect them from flak. Which are a type of antiaircraft guns that fire explosive shells. They worked better then skin.

@tomsoki5738 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are only good for shrapnel and low velocity rounds .22 and maybe a .45acp low velocity but they were good at the job they were made for and saved supposedly 100’s of lives over the cba and ecba’s life

@somethingelse4878 3 жыл бұрын

So I was reading a British book from 1947 called with British snipers to the reich A officer said to a soldier in a foxhole "Your looking fat there soldier", he smiled back knowing he was fat because he had stuffed loads of tins of food down his front to stop getting shot. Body armor on the fly

@mickwful 4 жыл бұрын

I was issued a flack vest in 1969.

@simonsignolet5632 3 жыл бұрын

ANOTHER well-presented and intelligent video! I encountered this video because I'm trying to research Kestrel CBA - can hardly find ANYTHING on it, online. I've learned a lot, thanks - Osprey Mks was going to be my next stop. Thanks. 4:22 - Surely the 20mm PALS type loops on the Kestrel were for pouches?! If you trawl eBay, you'll find older Osprey type pouches, etc, which used the same 20mm loops. They're loosely (literally!) MOLLE inspired - but as though the designers hadn't actually seen MOLLE kit in any detail: instead of weaving through three or more loops, the pouches were designed to attach to one or two on the vest and just hang. I think CQC's Osprey kit was more correct as per MOLLE - a FULL weave of the attachment straps..

@jordanjolley 4 ай бұрын

Boggles me that In ww2 the only “armour” was a helmet nuts to even think about running into battle with nothing to protect you with except your skill with a weapon

@robertbogan225 4 жыл бұрын

Awww man i love that collar. Is there anywhere to buy one?

@thetechoasis2179 3 жыл бұрын

Army Surplus centers will be the best bet search for Mil-Tec on google

@Tremulousnut 2 жыл бұрын

@@thetechoasis2179 mil-tec is not the way to go.

@adamatch9624 4 жыл бұрын

1:34 brilliant

@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 3 жыл бұрын

Crazy to see pictures of British soldiers not wearing any body armor in 2000’s Iraq, guess it just shows the difference in budget spending, most US state guards had some form of body armor by the late 1990s.

@garwhittaker3743 3 жыл бұрын

Most did.

@echo53226 2 жыл бұрын

Only shows how ill prepared the British government has been war after war!

@BelfastLoCk 11 ай бұрын

The photo at 2:40 was took in my street in Ballymurphy Belfast

@johnp5254 4 жыл бұрын

52 and 69 vests were ballistic nylon not kevlar

@lesaustion 4 жыл бұрын

Ya...because kevlars a brand, not a fabric

@tomsoki5738 4 жыл бұрын

Austin no it wasn’t even a Kevlar like composite aramid it was ballistic nylon, completely different material

@jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 жыл бұрын

Is there any cases documented of the body armor preventing lethal injury during the Second World War?

@robertwilliams2850 4 жыл бұрын

jed-henry Witkowski yes. American bomber crews wore early flak jackets that stopped many anti aircraft shell splinters.

@polecatfan1627 4 жыл бұрын

Here I am with an old gen 3 IOTV (Not in the US military)

@RumblerGaming 4 жыл бұрын

Could anyone tell me the name of the Goggles on the chap at 6:20 by anychance?

@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын

Scott.

@littlenemo14 4 жыл бұрын

We called them ‘flak jackets’ when we had them in Belfast 76 and 78.. Pretty useless to be honest and most of them stunk to high heaven.

@polarjet1833 4 жыл бұрын

The American Ivan M69 jacket is the best jacket

@teancrumpets5685 5 жыл бұрын

What about AFV crewman vests?its different from all of this...

@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын

Slightly different, with pouches and 2 flaps to prevent snag when pouches not in use. Same fillers though.

@courageunitycompassi 3 жыл бұрын

When we invaded Iraq again I remember stories of parents mailing their kids body armor because the army didn’t have enough.

@cduttd 4 жыл бұрын

RIP TC

@leoastner888 4 жыл бұрын

Did I see a Sterling at 3:40?

@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire 4 жыл бұрын

Yes and it was glorious

@malcolm3664 4 жыл бұрын

Our body armour in the Australian army is one of the best of the best saved my life 3 times

@carljohnson4285 4 жыл бұрын

Im going to go ahead and say that even the Mk. 3 variant literally slapped all US body armor in the face. With exclusions of the IBA and obvious plate carrier of course

@mixmaster2909 3 жыл бұрын

I mean not really the first body armor the US implimented was known as the "variable small arms protective vest" first issued in 1965 it used 2 steel plates and was capable of stopping 7.62x39 mm reliably as well as offering fragmentation protection likewise you could also just wear the plates instead of the whole vest offering only small arms protection unfortunately this armor weighed 22 pounds and was hot and trapped moisture so many troops who were issued it decided not to wear it this vest was issued 4 years before the ireland flak vests

@Tremulousnut 2 жыл бұрын

@@mixmaster2909 those were ceramic wrapped in fiberglass, not steel.

@echo53226 2 жыл бұрын

Take a look at the Falkland campaign for further confirmation.

@non-masturbatingtyrannosau3476 3 жыл бұрын

My favourite vest is mk3 in dpm

@phairecouchpotato3912 4 жыл бұрын

Yay

@ualuuanie 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for people to introduce a full exo skeleton

@Tremulousnut 2 жыл бұрын

Batteries and software is a big issue. A lot of exoskeletons don’t work anatomically or adjust to the body enough for user comfort.

@frostywolf8670 4 жыл бұрын

The British should have joint developed body armor with the US it would have been much better then what they were using

@dirkbruere 3 жыл бұрын

I look at the crap that has been issued over the decades and as an engineer wonder the people who designed it did not wear it themselves in a military role before issueing it, or get some ordinary soldiers to use it first. I assume they would say that they did, but if so something was clearly missing.

@pcarrierorange 2 жыл бұрын

It’s definitely an interesting balance to strike between comfort+mobility, and protection. Even the ultra sleek modern “plate carriers” with no kevlar and just smallish front and back ceramic plates still impede mobility, and they’re definitely still uncomfortable, whilst providing practically no protection from fragmentation on account of the absence of kevlar.

@williamgillbanks4662 3 жыл бұрын

British Soldiers did not have Body armour in the 1950s when i was in the Army in 1954, if there was any no Soldier i knew had any.

@dashans6175 4 жыл бұрын

5:50 This sounds a bit like survivorship bias. Wasn't there something similar with Planes in WW2?

@otten5666 3 жыл бұрын

How are you making that connection? If it were the same situation the first proposals for body armor would be for the legs and arms since that is where the bullet holes are on the patients in the hospital. People have had a pretty good idea where the vulnerable parts of the human body are long before body armor became a possiblity....

@dashans6175 3 жыл бұрын

@@otten5666 I do not exactly remember what I meant exactly but I guess it had something todo with the type of injury. In retrospect I see that my comment is not very precise and technically bullshit.

@Tremulousnut 2 жыл бұрын

@@dashans6175 I can see where you are going, but you probably should have thought it through. We have new studies on that topic which shows that the the introduction of armour does increase survivability. The question is more to do with the level of coverage, and with increased coverages, you need to consider reducing protection level on component to reduce weight and heat stress.

@valkot7574 3 ай бұрын

F*ck, I can not find normal description about vest which might be called medium between ecba and kestrel, it has shoulder and neck protection, mainly it's ecba in ddpm, I've found only small state on one forum and that it was designed late 80's and was used in Gulf War. But I didn't find any photo confirmation. It's written on label that is improved body protection ensemble. Looking forward for any information.

@robertwilliams2850 3 жыл бұрын

The M1952 and M69 had Ballistic Nylon filler not Kevlar.

@HTCN-ki3on 5 жыл бұрын

You should make a Instagram account. It'll branch out your following and I don't mind shouting you out

@justryan6480 3 жыл бұрын

Anybody know what body armour the Pathfinders use?

@trechtzach8151 2 жыл бұрын

Ops Core helmets and Crye stuff, they've been seen in a variety of Crye plate carriers depending on the role.

@warriorcanuck697 4 жыл бұрын

They had very limited leather vests in the great war m8

@crowman8914 4 жыл бұрын

I think it was fucked up they made the tank operator give his issued vest to another unit and later died from wounds.

@robertbogan225 4 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of starship troopers when they are training and the one guy takes off his helmet and gets his head blown off.

@curt6926 3 жыл бұрын

Well no disrespect to the tankie, but I do think its more important a close combat unit like the infantry probably need it more

@johnreed8336 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the British Army .

@davidlisovtsev6607 4 жыл бұрын

it's amzaing hou similar the later British body armor desings to ours, I'd probably feel right at home

@tomsoki5738 4 жыл бұрын

David Lisovtsev most modern body armour has the same rough design tbh

@MsMysteryman123 4 жыл бұрын

In so many of these videos it’s mentioned thing had to be updated due to complaints from soldiers... do they not ask actual soldiers who should have to live with them what they think before sending them out? Can’t understand why they would go ahead without testing day to day wearability etc. First

@mdr1396 4 жыл бұрын

Lol that's the military in a nut shell. Pretty much all militaries are like that. A group of people in a controlled facility create something, have some troops use it in a fairly controlled simulation and go, meh, that's good enough and press it into service, later to find that it doesn't actually work. Like the US armys UCP pattern. (What a joke) Look at the UK with their land rovers and the US with the Humvees, the troops in the field pleaded and begged for better vehicles and it took years and years before they got some new vehicles that weren't glorified cars. The troops who actually use the gear are usually ignored because tweaking or creating new gear costs that moneyz.

@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын

It's hard to find faults between soldiers complaining because they don't know better, and legitimate concerns. Sometimes kit is updated due to oversights, for example the Osprey was based on a much earlier design used by the MOD Police - Blast wasn't a concern for police so the plates were retained in a zippered pocket. No one had the foresight to know that zippers (even quality YKK ones) could split in a blast, and send the plate flying into the wearer's head. There's also public concerns. Armour is worn for protection, but that protection comes with weight. One could argue for reducing protection to reduce weight, but no one wants to be the one accountable when someone was killed because the portion downsized is where the casualty suffered a fatal wound. It's easy to hush away SF guys dying because their Ops Core helmet didn't cover their ears, but the regular soldier dying because he worn a para helmet instead of the issue bowler would end up as a scandal.

@PaddyInf 4 жыл бұрын

They test them with Infantry Trials and Development Unit (ITDU) and get feedback from experienced soldiers as part of the trials. However the feedback is often disregarded due to cost, contract or manufacturing reasons. Also, as some of these were purchased as Urgent Operational Requirements (UOR) they don't go through the lengthy trials system and are fielded as they come, hence the frequent upgrades.