They just don't want anyone that's not like them to be on the trail handicapped or not they believe they make rules an enforce them to

I honestly cannot applaud that guys's patience enough. I'd have been spitting and swearing and completely lost my shit. Fucking with people who are disadvantaged and then having the gall to victim blame rather than apologize is peak asshole behavior. Anyone caught on tape doing this shit needs to be banned from the public spaces where they engage in this behavior. Same with the dickheads in trucks that try to clip someone on a bike. Mandatary jail time, 10 year license suspension. Easy. Without real, honest to goodness consequences there's no reason for these Karens not to continue their dangerous, abusive behavior.

And even if he didn't. He doesn't need to.

@@samismith8752 If the harassment continued, he could've genuinely taken legal action or even pressed charges. Anyone with a disability needs to be armed with a basic understanding of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Karens just LOVE to maliciously misinterpret the rules so they can bully anyone they perceive to be vulnerable, especially people with disabilities.

yeah the female was just as dumb as the male.

In the United States you take a drivers test once and it’s just driving around like 2 streets and there’s no culture of respecting bikers. Everyone essentially automatically hates them.

Do the bikers in your country follow traffic rules? The hostility here stems from the fact that they largely don't.

​@D3faulted 1 just so you know in the UK, not Japan, we are taught to adhere to bikers and other motorists when they disobey the road laws. We are taught to not engage and leave it to traffic officers most we can do is record and report. In fact you can actually be fined if you try to tell people the law. I know as an escooterist who actually got someone fined for dangerous driving from my helmet cam footage. They were shouting at me for riding illegally clearly not being aware of thier surroundings as they hit a kirb (Know that privatly owned e scooters are illegal in the UK, but I wasn't prosecuted as I was being safe on the cycle lane). I didn't try and lecture them I just went to the police station on my scooter and presented them the video. Showed in court a few weeks later and the guy got points on his licence and a fine. I was very smug. But I think the system worked, while we were both being illegal due to how I reacted I was let off while he wasn't as he was the one being a danger

@@jacobwhite9961 My wife and I have often said rather than move back to the US if we want to leave Japan, we'd move to the UK, so this is great to hear. Also it's very honest of you to admit where you were in the wrong as well as the other person, that's not very common in the US so it's quite refreshing.

I’ve rode my bike safely for years and always encountered people throwing stuff at me and spitting on me. I finally decided to hang up riding a bicycle for good when a motorist swerved at me and caused me to dive off the edge of the road into the woods fracturing my wrist, ribs, bruised liver, and I got stuck with a $30,000 medical bill as the driver walked away completely free.

Yep. Don't confront them. You're not likely to get through to them and they have about triple the weight in steel on you. And about 100 times if you're on a bicycle.

Yeah but if you don't capture and upload the footage, how are you supposed to go viral on social media?

A legal e-bike that can be used on walking or biking paths, they are called Class One e-bike pedal assist, but you can not exceed 20MPH 32KM/H and must be peddled. Class One has no throttle and is considered a pedal assist, no insurance is required. These rules apply in Canada and the US.

​@@davidweaver4436 Exactly I drive a car you move out of my way. Why's that so hard to understand. Every boater knows the bigger boat has the right of way. But every idiot can travel on roads so the rules are the opposite to account for the biggest idiot.

​@@rickybobby7276it'll be a good day when a long-haul rig has the same attitude as you and drives straight through your car at 100mph because it's smaller. You had it coming for being in a smaller vehicle.

In my home town, we have a council estate (what we call projects in Britain) which borders a sizeable old quarry, and all the dirt bikers and ebikers used to ride down there, because it's out of the way, with mega wide roads, and leads directly to a dirt bike site. The local kids started hanging washing lines across the road at the entrance to the quarry, and seriously hurt a number of young lads, stealing their motorbikes after they'd fallen off when the washing line caught their necks. Thankfully, it's a narrow entrance so the lads were slowing down when they hit the wires, but if they'd been riding much faster they'd have been decapitated. Sadly, one young lad DID get decapitated at a local quarry a few years ago, and the council closed all these old quarries from public use.

pretty sure I have seen that in a movie, completely forgot about it until now well thank you I'm scared of going off roading now

​@@NiSiochainGanSaoirsethat wul be consdered a felony assalt really

Honestly, i can understand when the land owners become sick of dirt bikers tho. Not saying you do it, but there are a lot of videos of people dirt biking in some guys land without permission, and they treat the owners like air when faced, antagonizing them etc. There are others who bike in gated communities with trails etc. and just laugh it off when someone tells them to fck off. People who live out there most likely do so for a reason, dirt bikes making so much noise on their land is surely not something they look forward to every day...

They will be, you’re generalizing all ebikes when Suron and company are different animals all together. They will not be in the same class once they are differentiated by legislators

lol absolute truth. if you're having fun, someone else isn't lol.

motorcycle envy is a real thing. ebikes are motorcycles.

@@wannabecarguy ebike is ebike 🙃

He doesn't owe them an explanation in the first place.

Those kind of people are never wrong and low test beta boy was being a man for his girl .

@@EdD-ym6le Was she a girl, or the man of the family?

Egos be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too fucking high

I would of said eat shit pal. If he come towards me with that kind of attitude l.

Lol poetic justice.

owned

Karma is a bitch - LOL

The day I got mine a male Karen tried that crap with me. Ignorant people make crap up in their head and speak it like it’s the law. Then get angry when proven wrong. It’s hard to fix stupid. The lady at the end of the video is a complete mental case! Should be locked up.

Kudos to the cops

Amazing story

Oh man, something you got to post. Love it.

Why are there so many nut cases on bicycles now ??

im telling you- the lunatics ALWAYS out themselves. let them fall victim to their own insanity.

People could litterally live a lower stress lifestyle and have less panic attacks by just not creating these situation onto themselves and just worry about themselves.

oh wow that seems so odd! but i suppose, MoST ebikes arent really off-road, i myself dont really mountain bike so it wouldnt affect me. It's an odd situation cuz, you can ride an e-bike without engaging the electricity and simply pedaling therbey making it exactly like a regular roadbike.

Not any more. The Federal Government recognizes ebikes as "bicycles" now. It really depends on the administrator of the specific area.

The USDA cannot supersede local laws that regulate transportation on public roads.

Exactly, they should be spending more time minding their own business. Rather than prancing around telling people what that can and can't do.

fair enough for handicapped people to rely on motorised vehicles to get about.. however if they are traveling on a thin path used by pedestrians - then it is sensible for them to move at a moderate speed or people are in danger of being seriously hurt.. the issue of pedestrians being in danger does not go away just because the person driving the motorised vehicle is handicapped..

I sure hope that woman doesn't get children from him.

@@frankzappaspussy7362 I agree - just because you are handicapped doesn't mean that you could drive an F150 on the trail.

handicapped people can f. off if they are endangering other peoples lives they are, or should be, just as accountable as everyone else...

You have assholes with 30mph class 3 bike flying down mixed use trails. There are one or two around here. Hell, I will ride my "analog" bike on the road next to the mixed use trails if it has a low speed.

Facts

I would've said the same haha. Anyway, something to keep in mind while biking is to wear an nta helmet like xnito or bern, I see a lot of people ebiking with cpsc helmets

Imagine going outside doing exercise and being handicapped and regular fit karens tell you you can't do that, I just wanna give that guy a fucking hug jesus

@@henrik1743 I climbed superstition mountain in Arizona on crutches. When we neared the top of the mountain, an elderly woman on her way down saw me and said seeing me up there on crutches made her feel like an ass for complaining about the hike. Even broken people like nature, so leave us alone for doing what we need to do to enjoy the day. This guy wasn't in any kind of bike, let alone an ebike, and any fool could see that.

Husbands fault,Using his mouth and not his brain

@@Johnketes54 He positioned himself at the hill trying to keep that ebike guy on the slope so that he might fall back down. Dude wanted to see someone else get hurt plain and simple probably already knew it was a handicap situation but only backed off because he realized the brakes were stable.

Literally the first thing he said was "this is a handicap piece of equipment." Like, bruh, he DID lead with that.

He wasn't wrong actually. I dont agree with his confrontational attitude but the trail did apparently prohibit motorized vehicles. E bikes use "electric MOTORS". Nobody said the trail only prohibited combustion motors. Most electric vehicles like that actually use 2 or even 4 electric motors, either 1 for each back wheel, or even 1 for every wheel. Meanwhile combustion vehicles almost exclusively use only one motor. The point is "you should have led with that", is just the woman's way of saying "well if i had realized you were handicapped I wouldn't have said anything about you breaking the rules because I'm embarrassed by your condition and would have just let you get away with it." So yea, it was the handicapped guys fault. He knew the trail prohibited motorized vehicles, and either didn't know or didn't care that his e bike had electric motors. I have no opinion on whether or not the trail should prohibit ebikes, or on whether or not exceptions should be made for the handicap, but as the rules were at the time, he was clearly breaking them. Then he posted the video to shame the only two people who dared confront him for it.

@@K162KingPin Could you point me in the direction of the documentation over disability access to Brown County State Park?

Not impatient. Stupid.

@@mikewebb1487 That really sucks, they should change the laws with e-bikes imo.

@@mikewebb1487 If they require an endorsment for the trike then it IS a motorcycle there and could be used for the test. Try talking to the actual instructors that run the test. I bet they would be able to oblige you considering. Good luck and fight the good fight :)

@@SackyX I would agree, but the line becomes a bit blurry. I’m a motorcyclist, but I see a lot of people who ride e-bikes and treat them the same as bicycles… but they’re going 35-50 mph. Only a bike helmet and not following road safety laws any competent motorcyclist would. Some people think that ebikes are bicycles you don’t have to pedal. They aren’t, and they’re much more dangerous. But others think of them as motorcycles. They’re not, they’re not as dangerous. They’re in a weird twilight zone and require their own rules.

@@JH-xc1ce yeah right now ebikes are like having the benefits of both a bike and a motorcycle; but probably shouldn’t. A bike with 1000w and no limiter can easily get 30 on the flats. My onyx was getting 45 no problem, but people would scoot up on sidewalks with them, which probably they shouldn’t. I gave up my onyx though. It was too motorbikey, honestly, I want to feel like I’m pedaling, so standard ebike is plenty good for me, and going 25 as a max speed is totally sufficient.

That's what American has become, people complaining about anything and everything. When I was a punk that used to be our motto "question everything" lol

I certainly would not have reacted like that. I probably wouldn't have said anything to the guy. I'm not oblivious and it would have been obvious he was handicapped. That said, the trail did apparently prohibit motorized vehicles. It is a sad reality that not EVERYTHING in the world can be made handicap accessible. Saying its an E bike doesn't change anything about the park rules. E bikes use electric "MOTORS". I highly doubt the rules only specifically prohibit "Motorized vehicles that run on combustible fuel, of a specific size or greater". I have seen many of these tiny motor warriors trying to stick it to the man by using non combustion motors, or even combustion motors that fall under the legal limit requiring registration, insurance, and licensing to operate. None of that has anything to do with trails in a park. The park managers can set whatever rules they like. The rule they set was "no motors". This guy may be handicapped but I bet he can read. He got a sensational over reactions but he did it by breaking the park rules. That's not a hero fighting for the rights of the handicapped, its a anarchist creating clickbait for people who can't see beyond the surface of a situation. If anything he makes handicapped people look like a bunch of aholes who are going to shove their disability in your face and try to force you to let them do whatever they feel like, rules be damned.

@@K162KingPin But the trail didn't need to be "made" handicap accessible, because it already was, evidenced by the fact that we both just watched a video of the handicapped man accessing it. Either way, you're very right that the rules can be set by the US Forestry Service, and guess what! They already did! And their rules state that a wheelchair or other power-driven mobility devices is allowed any where that foot traffic is allowed. Oh, and the Department of Justice has stated that mobility devices are allowed on any public accommodations (which includes public lands and any private trail that is open to the public, or any other "place of recreation") according to Titles II and III of the Americans with Disabilities Act, but just the tiniest amount of common sense and empathy would have already told you that, assuming you had any. Can you show me on the doll where the tiny motor warriors touched you? Are the tiny motor warriors in the room with us right now? Oh, and where did this guy ever claim to be some kind of hero fighting for the rights of the handicapped? Other than in your imagination I mean (and the amount of nonsense you decided was reality based on your imagination is actually kind of impressive). And now he's a goddamn anarchist? Do you hear yourself? That man was following every rule, but just because you are ignorant of the rules you think he's "throwing his disability in your face"? Seriously? Thank god we had a real hero like you to stand up to that anarchist disabled man who can't stop shoving his disability in our faces by existing in a public place. Doesn't he realize that us normals go to these kinds of places specifically so we don't have to look at disgusting disabled people like him? Thank you so much, Mr FullSizeGaming for making sure he stays inside his house like his type is supposed to! Maybe in the future, you should keep your mouth shut and let everyone assume you might be a bit of an idiot instead of opening it and proving you're a complete idiot. You are the exact type of Karen that would call the cops on a blind man for having a service dog in a restaurant. Seriously, do better, because this behavior is just disgusting. "Oh, I wouldn't have acted like the people in the video, even if the disgusting disabled anarchist motor warrior was provoking me by shoving his disability in my face by being outside." You dropped your rubber nose and giant shoes, my liege, and you should take this crown too, because you are clearly the King of Clowntown.

@@lorehammer40k4 You know I only read the first 7 words of that rant right? The fact remains that you are WRONG and I am RIGHT. Period end of story. The fact that a person can break the park rules and travel in an area with a prohibited vehicle does not in any way prove that it is acceptable. You "could" drive a bulldozer down the interstate but it would destroy the roads for everyone else. You "could" drive a bus through a playground but it would create an unacceptable safety hazard for the children and parents. Obviously the ability to do something does not in any way make it acceptable, especially when there are rules specifically prohibiting it. There is no prohibition for handicapped people to use the train, or even to use human powered vehicles. The prohibition is for "motorized" vehicles which he was using. Last I knew legs not working has nothing to do with your arms. If he can have an Ebike custom made for him then he could have a hand peddle bike made. He just wanted to flaunt his disability and make people cringe so bad they didn't want to confront him about breaking the rules and endangering others.

@@K162KingPin You are trolling for lolz, at least I hope you are. You do realize that not all people who can't walk have complete control of their arms. Should people with cerebral palsy or MS just worm along the ground since they are CLEARLY more than able to do so? Or should all disabled people you find disfavorable just stay out of sight and mind, that is, of course, until you yourself become disabled?

there are e-trikes you can get too. they are a bit pricey but they exist.

You'll love the 4x4 e bikes. I just saw it last week and It's awesome

@@islandfantasy5931 isn't it essentially electric atv?

@@p1nk5p1d3r No it looks like the trike the handicap man was riding. Just has 4 wheels

Except for some handicaps, riding an arm cycle (not electric) is a great alternative to “e”-equipment.

How long have cars been around and people still cant park them right

@@thechampagneroom1 Bikes have been around even longer than cars and people still ride like inconsiderate assholes.

@@thechampagneroom1 Two wrongs make a who the hell cares! Attitude of a civilization in decline.

Never bring a bike to a pickup truck fight.

Yah exactly. As my advanced driving course instructor said to me, doesn't matter if you have the right of way - if you have a collision it's going to _at the very least_ ruin your whole day.

@@christopherbedford9897 I've always said the right of way is whatever prevents an accident.

When it comes to riding ANY 2wheel vehicle it's best to think of yourself as *INVISIBLE* Because 9 times out of 10 accidents involving a "bike" the other driver always says "*I didn't see it*"

@@jeremiahdssdentmorgan3341 That's a great way to think, but extend that thought to being a pedestrian and even when driving your car. Always be under the assumption that people suck at driving and don't see you.

That was a douchecanoe thing to say to a handicapped biker

She said you should have led with that when he literally did😂 dude was like what gives you the right to ride on here? First thing that came out of his mouth was this is a handicap price of equipment. Then he replied “so?” Clearly showing there ignorance.

That woman expects people with disabilities to have to constantly explain themselves... Some people can't mind their own business, they just can't help themselves.

He did lead with that

Yet he did actually lead with that.

It's almost like it's a microcosm of the world. Everybody in the world seems to have it bad at the moment ( obviously some worse than others), and the moment certain people see others trying to alleviate that, they feel it's their right to tell you to "STOP HAVING FUN". The solution? Ride more, ignore the haters, obey the trail/ road rules and most importantly STAY SAFE.

Classic BorderlineMom. AbuserMom. Ugh. Hate people like this. They are more likely to cause an accident than anyone.

He did lead with it though. He said it's a handicapped piece of equipment.

@@arrigalimedia those people make me sick. Zero respect for others.

*The disabled guy literally led with his immobile feet.*

@@double_joseph327 *Later on the couple went to stop people in wheelchairs about using too much of the sidewalk.*

Right! "I have 49 rounds of 9mm on my person and you're trying to prevent me from leaving. Should I lead with that?"

Bro poor guy hope he's going well

Imagine going outside doing exercise and handicapped and regular fit karens tell you you can't do that, I just wanna give that guy a fucking hug jesus

I’m sure the Karen realized he lost the argument when the rider told him he can’t walk, but he was still trying to argue the point to not look bad to his woman. The woman who said “you should have led with that” well no, she should have minded her own business and kept her man in check

@@pops55650 "kept her man in check" are you for real? The dude needs to keep himself in check. As we all do. Although, I know from my experience that people with this kind of attitude are incapable of self-governance, as they can do no wrong, but thus, are even less capable of taking advice or direction.

“You should of led with that” got my blood boiling a bit. No apologies, no “our bad”, no nothing. Just walk away and end the conversation because you’re too good to own up to your mistakes. SMH.

Thank you, just the way I see it too

Well said. Common sense approach. It's clear the law is wrong and needs updating and some are exploiting the loopholes.

Where I am bike rules and car rules, with a few exceptions, are identical.

@Lee G except what he's describing *IS* the law. Let's break down exactly what he said bit by bit: "If you have an E-bike that is basically an electric motorcycle" The US Consumer Product Safety Commission defines a motorized bicycle (such as an E-bike, but gas motors are allowed too) as a bike that generates no more then 1HP (750watts) and goes no faster than 20mph. Anything that can go faster than that isn't 'basically' a motorcycle. it *IS* a motorcycle, legally speaking. Cops can impound it if they clock you going faster than 20 and your feet aren't moving. if it's going significantly faster, they can impound it anyway and check what your output is. "And you're travelling at speeds that are similar to normal vehicle speeds" So, if you're operating your out-of-compliance E-bike like a motorcycle. Don't be a dumbass. Cops know you've de-limited the thing when you go whizzing by at traffic speed. Now you won't be worth the trouble if you're following the rules. But if you run a red, or roll up on the sidewalk where that's not allowed, or generally pose a hazard to slower foot/bike traffic, they will bust you, and they'll impound the bike. You should keep that 8kw E-MTB off the bike trails, because that's just asking for trouble.

@@andrewnorris5415 Don't think updating the law is gong to help there. They don't have the athority to regulate *off road* vehicles exactly, and the settings inside controllers that disable limiters are intended only for offroad use. didn't stop me from disabling the 15mph top speed in my TSDZ though. And the cops here REALLY, REALLY don't care. The shit I've seen done on pedal-bikes (or done myself TBH, I'm no saint) is worse than most of what's in this video, let alone the E-bikes.

yes i had cycle no motor catch up to me and passed me doing 35mph on gas moped..People think they own the roads and trails..Generally most people have been polite on the roads and trails... be safe...

Lol, those guys are pussys. F them.

It's littering to leave an "arse' by the side of the trail. Maybe you should go back and pick it up? Thanks!

My pet elephant, Mr Twinkey, drives his sports car down the dusty country freeway with his pet snake, Mr Hey-now, draped across the windscreen covered in sun oil and sipping hot coffee whilst smoking dried herrings.

... Right, so assuming you blew past a *GASBIKE*? Which puts out a minimum of 1,200 watts for even the cheapest motor, you would have been operating an out-of-compliance bike (which is legally a motorcycle regardless of being electric). The difference being how obvious it is. if it was a no-motorized trail, you both should have been tossed.

Best part is he literally lead with it, first words out of his mouth were "This is a handicap piece of equipment"

speed is the issue.. if someone crashed into you on a thin path.. it would suddenly be unimportant to you whether or not the person driving the vehicle was handicapped..

I would've thought a 2nd opinion could see pass the ego and rage and make a good judgement, but it seems repugnant, low quality humans flock together. One could swallow one jerk, but when you encounter more than one, all affirming each other's insane viewpoints, it's insufferable and makes my blood boil.

She'll get Karma when she finally realises Mr Star is ......

Problem is, it's looks nothing like an electric wheelchair, it's a three wheeled aggressive looking E bike, it hauls ass just like it looks like it does and takes up the entirety of the trail unable to pass safely so if can't slow down or stop strikes other bikers on a bike path.

And it's clearly harassment of a person with a disability which should be a serious crime

not fucking ok if i saw you i would say hell ya man get after it and fist bumped these people needa get a life

Hate crime REEEEEEEEEE

Why are you polite? You should tell them to STFU and mind their own business

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I agree. I'm building a 50 mph ebike. When I'm on bike trails I maintain a legal speed. When I get on the road, I keep up with traffic. I don't have to go full speed all the time.

Hey look kids a Karen

@@laughingsnake1989 Hey kids look Trailer trash

@@miketrav look if I am haveing fun I don’t give a Damm and yes I am trailer trash and proud of it can’t afford any better after I lost my leg and arm in Iraq

Doesn't help that states change bike laws all the damn time. In Colorado we can treat stop signs as yields and red signals like a stop sign. Frankly I still cross with the pedestrian signal because I do not trust the fucking Texans moving here. We can ride on any sidewalk yielding the right of way to pedestrians and we can travel on most any road. We have bike trails going alongside a major state road for like 37 miles. There are bits in our laws that give you options but for the road yeah you really should know your local laws. Driver's should fucking know too like God damn.

And I bet you obey every single vehicle law???

​@@Jroym1974woooow

Guys got a point and your comment was not very constructive. @@Jroym1974

One of the biggest issues with motorists, electric vehicle drivers or otherwise, is many seem to pick and choose which rules they follow. Obstructing bike lanes, running red lights, not using signals, parking in inappropriate places, sitting in the middle of intersections and crosswalks, not following signals, signage, or road markings makes it difficult to be respected. 😊

Spot on, Richard. And always use common sense.

Yes I can see the other side of it sir ronster doing wheelies down the street things like a hundred people on e-bikes in a crowd like a gang going down the road that's b*******! They take over the whole Road they have no conscience. I'm not like these people. I'm afraid someday I won't be able to ride my e-bike legally anymore because of people like those and one of them is bound to die and then I can't ride my bike anymore and I don't have money for insurance and all that and I have one leg it's my only transportation and it saved my life my bike. Yes it's a cheap one eco-trick hammer but it works it's got 1300 miles. I need to change the tires and do some maintenance but I like it. The ecoatrick hammer is really big though. I just got a 20 amp hour battery and it barely barely just by millimeters fits under the seat lol. Yes I have range anxiety cuz I can't pedal. I figure that battery will go 30 miles I have two other batteries that go 20 miles so if I go to the lake 30 miles away I won't run out of energy. I bought a solar panel but it's so heavy how you going to carry it? But I'm going to try. It's a blue ETI and the box is another 15 lb so I'm going to use a mppt. If you're dead you can still keep going I have a wagon

over the last 7 to 8 years there has been an upsurge in hostility toward many different areas of society - the aviation and service industry among others. the hostilities against ebikes are just another symptom of a much larger problem.

They will try to ban you anyway because a lot of what's driving it is jealousy on their part. Almost always white people btw.

@@tomsan7742 Yup. Everyone wants their flavor but they don't want you to have your flavor.

What is open carrying.

@@lildiamond6235 Carrying a gun that is openly visible

You'll be targeted first.

@@RezaQin You're correct. Which is why I only do this in my low-crime town. If I ride in the city, I'm going CC.

How many times bigger is your gun, compared to your 'weapon'?

Stupid ruks Don't harass anyone.. Treat Everyone the way you wanna be treated.

And if you do you get a wheelchair too!

Well, since 2016... a lot of "adult" children are encouraged to throw tantrums and ignore reality.

Some of those unregulated dual wheeled Wide Ebikes can go very fast on trails, they race them, coming up on people fast and confrontations arise. Notice they all have Helmet Cams to record their encounters, then post them or sell them.

​@@OregonDARRYLTDS is Real

I ride my e bike to work almost everyday day if i have to argue with someone bet your ass im going to because its the only way there and back

If people want to argue with me, they will remember not to do that again. I don't allow bullies to get their way.

@@coloradopeoplesnews7676 think about it the future is coming im seeing more and more e bikes eventually theres gunna be no one left to argue with well a lot less because karens will always exist just not as much on regular bicycles people are just mad because people on bicycles can keep up

Spot on, Jeff!👍

@@Dmanrider I see a future where public land managers simply close trails to all vehicles due to being destroyed by a whole new generation of ashsoles riding powerful ebikes and ripping up the terrain. To be fair, the recent trend in mountain biking has been emulating motocross and the terrain is getting destroyed already. I'd trade my modern mountain bike and trampled braided, widened trails for an old, rigid, 1980s style bike on sweet singletrack that was everywhere back then.

Has less to do with the wheel count and more to do with humans human-ing around jeje.

When I ride a e-bike or bike I follow motorcyle rules and stick to that... Nilly willy switching with pedestrian rules while going at high speed is sure way to get killed or end up in a wheelchair and it do not help you that you did was legal if it gets you killed...

The person with inability to walk, in his 3 wheeler, being hassled along the trail is a new low. These days, it's pressure-pressure-pressure from people just lashing out with no manners, just blatant hostility if they decide they don't like something. The first question I would have asked that guy if I could not walk and was using a 3-wheeler is "what is your first name?" That immediately makes the lashing-out person think "wait a minute - I don't want to give this person my first name because I might be in the wrong and they might report me to staff" If the person refuses to give you their first name, YOU GOT 'EM. They are exhibiting guilt. Get a full description of them into memory then turn them in. Get the karens out of situations - like a trail riding area - where they do not have the adult manners to peacefully coexist. It's uncomfortable to turn the tables on a karen but you have to start somewhere. Maybe these folks can learn to be TOLERANT if they discover there is a price to pay for being intolerant. PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE. Everyone has just as much right to recreation as any other person.

walkers hassle joggers, joggers hassle cyclists cyclists hassle assisted cyclists cyclists hassle motorcyclists/ATVs ATV hassle car drivers car drivers hassle truck drivers truck drivers hassle ... well a semi-truck can squish anyone... so I wouldn't mess with them. but you get the gist of how humanity goes - "evolution by the entitlement rule"

Kid biker here, road rules are important to me

@@DirectorDelta It's not just young kids. I work around a large University and there are a lot of young adult living in the surrounding area, they're probably the WORST when it comes to violating road rules whether they're walking, jogging, biking, riding electric rides, or driving.

@@ClockworkWyrm I live 2 miles from a. University also. With thousands of young people being turned loose, many for the first time in their lives, there are lots of youngins not paying much attention to rules of any kind.

If it's throttle powered I dont think it should be called an ebike.

I won't bother trying to edjumuhucate you, previous attempts have obviously failed 😂

@@JohnSmith-tz4on Don't bother if you can even spell educate 😂

they do not go 50-60 . the vast majority can barely make 30 . only some very exspensive hp e bikes can barely go over 40

@@kevinromig9477 I think you need to read the very first sentence of my comment again.

@@kevinromig9477 Onyx top speed is 60.

​@kevinromig9477 you're not paying close attention are you?

They are 100% low powered motorcycles, don't get it twisted. Those crappy compliance pedals are just there for show. NOBODY pedals those things. Plenty of true ebikes out there. The ones you referenced are not.

Certainly that wasn't the best way to cross the road. That is a very difficult intersection for a bicyclist, the rightmost lane is right turn only, the next lane to the left is both straight and right turn. Being in the second lane from the right is hazardous as motorists can turn right into you if you are going straight on a bike. Good intersection for a bicyclist to simply dismount and walk across.

One thing for sure, if that bicyclist continues to ride like that in traffic, they won't be making videos a whole lot longer. They will become a statistic.

yeah idk wtf that dude was doing. watched that 3 times over and he was in the wrong. like why are you going on a red when thats when people have a green arrow to the right?

Yep. Loser on e-bike did the switch road to walkway and knows the rules but wants click-bait.

There were 2 lanes of turning traffic, a vehicle ( the bike) wanting to go straight needed to be between the turning lanes and the straight lane. Ebike was in the wrong here, bad road position.

There's a lot more crazy people out there than there used to be, it's as if there was a global pandemic and some of the people are still in a fog, some of them are driving around in cars, so be careful and ride safe.

As a mountain biker... I would support you, in your effort to just plow through any & all Karens. Perhaps they sould make cattle catchers for E-bikes, specifically for that purpose.

Got to clean my bike plow every ride now… jk

If you have a loud horn, sneak up behind them, blast the horn, watch them jump! Great fun!

@@billh.1940 How to win friends and influence people. lol

And it won't be in our favor as riders of electric bicycles I'm expecting things to start getting stricter and more similar to how they are in Europe Why do we need a higher top speed a throttle and more power if Europeans can get by without them? Because we don't have the bicycle infrastructure that Europe does and have to stay safe against clueless drivers, as protected lanes are incredibly rare. Europeans I've met tend to comment that they thought their bike access sucked and then realized there's a whole new level of awful they didn't even imagine once they traveled here I mean, if the federal government wants to include actual bike infrastructure (as opposed to paint) in their future infrastructure plans then great. By all means make biking safer. But if the issues with Sur-ron and RCR style bikes reaches a head any legislative reaction will likely hurt the future of eco-friendly electric transport and make ebike riders less safe on the street.

Exactly. I ride motorcycles too and I hate the damned lane splitters doing it when they don't have to. If an ebike gets in front of me doing that at an intersection they impede me even more. Even in my truck I like to have fun leaving the light. Never did like having to monitor a fool trying to ride beside me. I need and deserve an entire lane to avoid any sudden obstacles or potholes.

@@AgentAlmost for myself, I live in the backwoods part of Arkansas, we have no bike infrastructure and I'm ok with that, the 8 miles I travel to work is nearly a straight line and is great for biking, due to health issues however, I opted to upgrade my bike to an ebike, I put a 1000w bbshd motor on it, technically a little above legal power wise, but the only times I've ever used that power is when I'm being chased by dogs, otherwise I keep it in PA 2 and cruise between 17 to 19mph, which is plenty fast enough, thankfully so far the cars I encounter give me plenty of space, and I hug the white, or if needed just get off the road for large trucks, works pretty well here, but when I see people in videos using ebikes that are on par with motorcycles and claiming they are ebikes, I can't help but feel it will sooner or later hurt the bike community via legislation

@@geekfreak618 I believe you are exactly right, trucks and cars should have full rights to the entire lane, personally I despise motorcyclists, atleast the ones in my area, most of them disregard the traffic laws and do whatever they want, and I get tired of having to worry about whether the idiot tailgating less than 5 feet behind me is inevitably gonna rear-end me when I have to brake for a deer or other animal (happens alot) to say the least, of the 4 times I've found motorcycles in the ditches, I have never felt any sympathy for the riders

I have to agree on this, I love the ebikes and electric motorcycles, but that line needs to be sharply defined and hard lines drawn. A 50 cc moped that tops at 35mph is no different than a ebike governed same speed and both should be subject to the same rules.

that's crazy!!!!! I love boarding!

Boardwalk? It's in the freaking name dude. Plus I don't even see how you'd ride a skateboard on boards wherever the hell that is that you're talking about. Now if you're talking about the bike path, then yeah, it's a little puzzling until you think about what happens if you do allow skateboarders on the bike path, they weave back and forth and make themselves an obstacle to navigation to bikes that are traveling 10 to 15 Mi an hour that now have to slow down or go into the opposite lane to pass, creating unsafe conditions and the perfect conditions for accidents. It's kinda like how gay people want to be mainstream which includes indoctrinating kindergarteners apparently there's all kinds of unintended consequences that simple people don't think about.

What the Hell is this comment supposed to mean!

Yeah these dense mental midget KZfaq video making clowns always give ebike to people that already have them. There's people out here that can't even get to the store to get food. Give them a bike instead but common thing with these bike Channel

@@MoparDanIt means exactly what it says. At the start of the video the host of this channel says that he wants to send the guy one of his bikes.

What the f*** are you talking about

I think the Blackbird costs quite a bit _more_ than $2000? It pays to be polite!?

Yeah. Some trails specify if they allow pedal assist and if they don’t full on electric bikes. All the mountain bike trails around here are maintained by a volunteer group, so I feel like the people that maintain the trail define the vehicle… not the state.

Yes, those candian laws are something arent they. And those daymak 'ebikes' with their ebike tags are just adorable.

-boss- *bitsch* I had to correct spelling there. Apologies. LOL 😅😂🤣

Here, it depends on how powerful it is, over 20 ccs falls under motorcycle laws

​@@jonathandavis-po6js no shot he's going that fast on a 250w in the UK which is the limit here .

Texas has 3 classes of them. C1: 20mph (32km/h) max, assistive pedaling. C2: 20mph max, no assistive pedaling required. C3: 28mph max, assistive pedaling. C1 and C2 have no age requirements. C3 must be 15-years or older. Helmets required if

Well congratulations Karen in the UK you're right here you're an asshole

Grab me or something like that. I do carry.

I was thinking about bashing her in the face with the helmet but pepper spray does sound more reasonable

if she was blocking him, he should have gone around her. you cant control other people, you can only control yourself, and he showed very little self control albeit slightly more than karen

@@carlholland3819 < - found another one 🤣🤣🤣

@@carlholland3819 are you stupid? do you have eyes??? cant you see thats exactly what he is trying to do and she is still blocking the path and/or holding him there. if it were me im sorry but her jaw gets crushed i do not care if she is a woman that behavior deserves to only eat soup for a couple of weeks.

@obimk1 Correct. If a mode of transport is allowed on the road in the Netherlands, it is also classified to a category of vehicles. Traffic rules apply accordingly. If you have a mobility handicap, and use a Ferrari, you are obliged to follow the rules for cars, not mobility scooters. Not your physics, but vehicle determinate your position on the road.

Right, I have a onewheel. I can go 16-17mph max. No one should be going over 25 on any trail. You'll come around a corner and literally kill someone. These overpowered ebikes are going to ruin it for everyone else I can guarantee you it.

My pet elephant, Mr Twinkey, drives his sports car down the dusty country freeway with his pet snake, Mr Hey-now, draped across the windscreen covered in sun oil and sipping hot coffee whilst smoking dried herrings.

"Flowing from bike lane, to the motorized lane at your whim is stupid. It's unpredictable for drivers, especially shitty drivers, and it could very easily get you killed. Know the rules, Follow the rules, and ride predictably to avoid conflict." Unless you're blind, it isn't. Then again, Americans in general can't drive to save their lives.

@@thegardensentinel Where can I get some of those "dried herrings"? 😉

Bikes are allowed on the road

@@RandomVidz9_ yes , and we must follow local laws .

That's the problem ignorant have. Roads don't belong to one type of vehicle and individual. You have to share it 2ith other user without hierarchy. It's not yours. I repeat you have to share it with others. This is the slogan on many countries, province, state because it's a big problem. Bike can use roads as you in your vehicle.

Cyclists have recently been given More legal protection in the UK, basically making motorists responsible for ensuring the cyclist is protected and giving bicycles and ebikes a "vulnerable road user" status. Endangering a cyclist is now a legal offense with fines and licence points applicable. With up to 6 points for an offence, with a driving ban at 9...

@@ryanwebb6356 That's excellent. And I am sure, overdue.

Usually it is if the vehicle is an obstruction rather than another vehicle. You'd need to look at the law to find the exact criteria. Like passing a garbage truck which is frequently stopping.

You are also legally required to give a cyclist 3 feet. If you can’t, it’s illegal to pass them.

Agreed on the try to not engage, absolutely on the Yahoos on Ebikes giving the rest of us a bad name but ditto for the roadie dinobike riders who like to Claim the Lane and ride 3 or even 4 abreast because they have rights too. When a semi trucker turns you into paste, your estate has rights but you are dead and gone. As an Ebike shop owner I often get calls from Ebike thieves looking for batteries or chargers and I ask them to set up a time with me so I can have the Police there to check the serial numbers on their Ebike, the line often goes dead immediately.

Yep, and always use common sense. It's amazing how easily one can avoid time wasting, stressful confrontations.

I added a burger alarm to my ebike, along with a big u lock. The alarm really protects my lights, bags, etc. I was tired of them being stolen. It's fun watching startled thieves run.

Bikes really shouldn't be on sidewalks and walkways!

@@billh.1940 Absolutely right, bicycle and electric assisted bicycles should be on multi-use trails, bike lanes and bike paths BUT when those kinds of infrastructures are not put in place to allow a cyclist to move safely, then a common sense choice must be made between risking life and limb or taking the safest possible option provided. We rent out Ebikes from our shop so people can discover what it's like to ride an electric assisted bicycle, Class 1, max speed of 24 kph, no throttle and even with these very basic Ebikes we had to restrict the riding zone to the National Monument where we operate because of close calls with motorized vehicles on public roads with bike lanes. It probably cost us $3k in rental fees and $20k in sales because our local politicians who ran on a 'green platform' didn't think that meant Ebikes and Acoustic Bikes, just TESLA cars. :( Thanks so much for supporting mom and pop businesses that are trying to do the right thing and provide a greener and more economical means of getting around. Sometimes you have to do the safest thing possible and the Karens of the World need to chill out and show some of the respect they demand from others. You have to give it to get it!

It makes no sense. Loicenses are shit anyway. There should be a dedicated ebike license. Drive your ebike like a motorbike on the road. And like a bicycle on cycling paths. Meaning you drive at a normal speed that makes sense. No strict speed limit but if there is a crossing or you see pedestrainas you slow down to walking speed. A allysway where people can jump around the corner you slow down to like 15kmh. Is it so hard to have common sense?

Good thing 1776 happened

then the UK sucks and we shouldn't follow them.

​@tunnelsnake627 Amen brother🦅🇺🇸

Good thing I'm in Australia. Queensland to be exact.

OMG!! I ride Golden on my ebike too...this is scary. The guy who did that is a criminal and needs to be found and brought to court.

your story makes me sure that you have fight people that want hurt you, not goes around, I will never let them do anything like that on my watch, if something like that will happen to me or people near I promise that bully will finish in hospital no matter what, just coz your story will stay with me. Fill so sorry for you and hope you will get beter soon and back on bike with full power and positive energy.

Shelli - I'm so sorry you are having to deal with this, sorry it happened to you! There are a lot of angry people out there, our society is unhealthy. Riding a bike should be a joyful experience.

That's so horrible and I am so sorry that you have had to suffer from this attack from an idiot. I understand what it is like to be physically attacked but that asshole should be charged for assault.

Invest in a GoPro for future altercations.

I do something similar but say "NO ENGLISSH" in a fake accent. Cause I'm brown it enrages them even more and they typically leave

running around a motel parking lot? Sounds dangerous. He was commenting such.

He was in the cross-walk and as such was not in a lane at all, no violation. A bicyclist is not a pedestrian and is not obliged to comply with pedestrian controls signs, no violation of ARS 28-646 as it only applies to pedestrians.

@@DanaWeick He started out riding in the roadway in the rightmost of 2 turn lanes, and did a slight right before entering the crosswalk to go straight. It may not be illegal, even if there is no law saying it is illegal (a loophole in the law). It is an unsafe maneuver, similar to the truck in the right turn lane deciding to go straight while the next lane over is also a turn lane. The unsafe maneuver is illegal. Since the bicycle started out riding in the road he is supposed to obeying all traffic laws. I may have put it in the gray area had he started out on the sidewalk, but he didn't.

Your terminology is incorrect. Most states and federally ebikes are NOT recognized as motor vehicles.

@@Area13ebikes Not saying what legal terminology is. It has a motor powering it - call it what you want. And, frankly, on our nice peaceful walking (few bikes) trails, it was a motorized e-bike (not a pedal-biker) that almost hit my walking wife. We are 67yrs & 72yrs and enjoy "walk/riding" together. It is scary that we don't jump and we don't heal as fast as we used to. We aren't looking for trouble, but entitlement that puts others at risk is more than rude.

Correct. Ev or ice is both motorized. If you don't have brakes and protection according to what effect/power can be delivered you do endanger others. But ebikes feel exceptionnel guz they don't use gas or need a license. So much fun to see them struggle when the accu goes flat.

Settle down.. just be glad ur alive

@@bingobango301 settle down?

found one

FOUND ANOTHER KAREN

@@theepimountainbiker6551 Exactly what I expected. You can't handle the truth so you resort to name calling...

go away off with your "karen" term-people do not like it especially ladies named karen-

@npc 117 ....and their husband they used to have.

@@colinryshaf3295 Good, the more pissed they are about it the better

@npc 117: whilst golden retrievers, like all dogs, have a very good hearing. Dog owners don’t have to scream on them. Either they listen to the leader, or he/ her is not the leader…

@@colinryshaf3295 That's a very Karen-like response. I'll respond with a quote from Stephen Fry: “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so what."

Yes, depends where you are. In CA, bicycles on sidewalks are generally prohibited by anyone over 12 years old. But it's up to the municipality if they want to amend this. Some cities will REQUIRE bicycle riding on some busy streets. But in general, children are allowed to ride bikes on sidewalks, for obvious reasons.

If you call the police instead bitch slappin' that woman, you're the Karen.

Last one was painful. If you can't get away from an old Karen, time to park it and walk.

HUMMMMM There bikes were towed?? I'm wondering why the bikes were not put in the back of a pickup truck, seems kind of silly to call a wrecker for bicycle's

Pepper Spray was made for for situations like the last video

Especially if it has an electric motor it's not motorised? Many places have definitions in the laws.

@@Cheepchipsable If having an electric motor is legally not classed as "motorised" then I fear I may have lost what little respect I had left for legislators...

The UK laws are gay.

It's 100% not legal. Even in the US.

​​@@neroshadow9524not really, they are often seen speeding on pavements,running red lights and speeding in towns,,if they stuck to laws then maybe..its not just england,,,chinas banned em completly in some citys its that bad