Boos and groans as Paula Vennells ends three day grilling by sub-postmasters' lawyers | ITV News

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25 күн бұрын

Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells was booed by subpostmasters, grilled by lawyers and pushed to tears multiple times during her three days’ evidence to the Horizon IT Inquiry.
The ordained priest entered the witness box at Aldwych House in central London to face what one former subpostmistress described as a room of people with “eyes full of hatred”.
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@riverside471
@riverside471 23 күн бұрын
They didn't fight for decades to see Paula Vennels say sorry. They fought for decades for justice.
@patinho5589
@patinho5589 22 күн бұрын
The word “Justice” doesn’t mean anything. It’s a word only used in a victim narrative to say “please love (care about) me”. That’s the deep truth. People should indeed love each other and care for each other. The so called justice system does not do that. And people don’t do that.
@user-sk9mj6ig3s
@user-sk9mj6ig3s 22 күн бұрын
aye ''their'' justice master/slave
@riverside471
@riverside471 22 күн бұрын
@@patinho5589 There will never be perfect justice because the subpostmasters will never get their lives back or most of what they lost. And yes, there's a lot wrong with the justice system. But I believe those responsible for ruining these people's lives, mental health, physical health, relationships, financial wellbeing and/or community respect should be held to account. More to the point, the subpostmasters believe the same.
@crazyhai8155
@crazyhai8155 22 күн бұрын
​@patinho5589 I disagree. Justice isn't just about being 'loved and cared for'. And it's not necessarily about being a 'victim'. You're taking a fundamental concept, millenia old, and reducing it to what some current 'snowflakes' interpret it as. But I don't believe that is even the majority perspective. Justice is fundamentally about fairness. I'm extremely annoyed at the injustice here - and it's certainly not that they weren't 'loved and cared for', for me. Rather, it is the gross unfairness they were subjected to, whilst just living their lives. And I've not seen ANY of them saying anything, fundamentally about wanting to feel 'loved and cared for'. They seem to fundamentally want acknowledgement of how their lives were destroyed; explanation for how it happened, and fair compensation to help them rebuild their lives. Not principally 'love and care'.
@choppernumberone7279
@choppernumberone7279 22 күн бұрын
@@patinho5589I don’t agree either, they are without a shadow of a doubt going to vindicated in this inquiry and with any luck those who were complicit at the POL will face charges. If there is any justice in the world. I hope this creates a snowball effect to the many corporations that are having us all over.
@robinmyman
@robinmyman 23 күн бұрын
Crocodile’s tears…you ruined 100s of honest hard working lives. Shame!
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 23 күн бұрын
Definitely.
@Platterpussy
@Platterpussy 22 күн бұрын
and got massive amounts of cash out of it
@zetsupain
@zetsupain 22 күн бұрын
Sorry for my ignorance. What happened? What is she charged with ?
@mygreatbigfoot1679
@mygreatbigfoot1679 22 күн бұрын
She wanted the company’s share price to be unaffected by the problems of being tied into an agreement with Fujitsu and their accounts software, so she and her little gang punished the innocent plebs and make them answer and pay up for misposted and lost payments. It’s the sort of thing Jesus and the late Lord Denning would do.
@capturesexpress
@capturesexpress 22 күн бұрын
Nobody knows if she is crying for them, herself, both, or not at all
@albertliu1068
@albertliu1068 23 күн бұрын
She has put up a much more intelligent performance throughout this enquiry than people realise. She might have appeared to be ignorant and dumb on many occasions but I sense that it is part of her deliberate strategy to distance herself from any potential criminal charges. Hence her evidence given often seems to be quite random and full of gaps concerning IT disclosure and sub postmasters. There is a pattern in her responses to the questions. Where they are related to IT bugs, her knowledge and awareness on convicted cases and legal advice surrounding sub postmasters, she deliberately made herself looking ignorant and blaming all the faults on other people. She knows that being incompetent is not a criminal act but by deliberately withholding evidence to interfere in the administration of justice (perverting the course of justice) and causing death (corporate manslaughter) are. So she did not admit once in the past 3 days that she might just know about the bug and the disclosure issue before 2013 - she is much cleverer and smarter than people think otherwise she could not be the CEO in the first place. Throughout the enquiry, she stubbornly stuck to her single line of defense which was 'she should have known but she did not know' (a famous phrase used by Albert Speer at Nuremberg trials in 1946 which got him off from the death penalty - he was known to be the one who got away! ) because her colleagues failed to keep her fully informed. You would also notice where questions are related to non Horizon and sub postmasters issues, she happily remembered everything and was able to give details down to individual names. I don't think given the amount of documentary and audio evidence, there is any doubt that she knew all along as MD and later CEO and she was doing everything and deploying every available resources to silence the noises from the sub postmasters. Regardless what she said, I think there is now sufficient evidence to charge her on perjury, perverting the course of justice, corporate manslaughter and obtaining money by deception as soon as the inquiry is over!
@jhofster31
@jhofster31 23 күн бұрын
Ultimately it all comes down to the documents and inquiry has done a fabulous job of digging out some very damning written evidence.
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork 23 күн бұрын
Yes. I too noticed that her memory seemed much sharper on non Horizon (less dangerous) issues. The truth is obvious, and has been for years. Horizon was faulty, the PO knew it, but they thought smashing the Subpostmasters would be better and easier than admitting they had caused it all in the first place. I really hope she is held to account for this. POL could easily have 'put their hand up' and admitted it was Horizon, but they didn't. This sort of decision is only taken at the highest level- hers.
@malcolmharfitt4032
@malcolmharfitt4032 23 күн бұрын
Quite so. Good analysis.
@joeyglewnston
@joeyglewnston 23 күн бұрын
Calculative and manipulative
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 23 күн бұрын
She definitely should be charged and some others too.
@sarapiper385
@sarapiper385 23 күн бұрын
She should give back her £3 million bonus shame on her and all the others he was lying and put these poor innocent people into prison
@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904
@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 23 күн бұрын
Hasn't she suffered enough? That brought her to tears with this heavy handed, thuggish approach.
@Decrepit_biker
@Decrepit_biker 23 күн бұрын
​​​​@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 are you JOKING??? no, this cost people their lives and in some cases pushed people to suicide. She needs to be PROSECUTED for this. She knew EXACTLY what was going on, and thats obvious despite her attempts at minimisation and playing dumb. The buck stops with her, at the top of the tree. She doesn't know the meaning of suffering.
@MartinSmythOnline
@MartinSmythOnline 23 күн бұрын
@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 Suicides Bankruptcies Marriage breakdown Mental and physical health Loss of homes Stigma But poor Paula had to endure a few days of hard questions. She can now jet away with her millions.
@theloneranger2101
@theloneranger2101 23 күн бұрын
@Decrepit_biker Here Here! She's a Wretched Women!
@canalboating
@canalboating 23 күн бұрын
@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 Are you joking,
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 23 күн бұрын
She's plain evil.
@mikelheron20
@mikelheron20 22 күн бұрын
Absolute rubbish.
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 22 күн бұрын
Snivelling for herself because she got caught ,not for the people who were ruined or took their own lives. Anyone who's ok with that is on the same moral spectrum as her. Have a nice day.
@juliet3827
@juliet3827 22 күн бұрын
She's also an Anglican priest, can you believe it???
@mariewalmsley6143
@mariewalmsley6143 22 күн бұрын
She become one later on because she thought it would be a testiment to her 'good ' character. She's a disgrace to the church.
@nevadatan7323
@nevadatan7323 21 күн бұрын
Evil doesn't exist. This is the real world and it stems from rampant greed and self-interest.
@johnhall4851
@johnhall4851 23 күн бұрын
Vennells did more than let the victims down; she was complicit in 400 people being wrongly convicted of serious crime. Can we demand her arrest for serious criminal activity.... perverting the course of justice for one....
@Robinbamv
@Robinbamv 22 күн бұрын
Perverting the course of justice is exactly the right charge to bring, with full knowledge she deliberately ignored the problems with horizon and took court action against people to cover up the shortcomings of horizon. I can only hope she and the other prime movers in the POL management get prison sentences that reflect the years of hurt and anguish they inflicted to the sub postmasters and their families.
@nigelmcculloch3746
@nigelmcculloch3746 22 күн бұрын
I think that all those involved should at least pay back all extra pay they received since the start and only be paid a base salary till they do ( including mp's) and if anyone knowingly committed a offence should be charged
@-xirx-
@-xirx- 22 күн бұрын
100%
@amandahudson2038
@amandahudson2038 16 күн бұрын
You can demand but if cps are not convinced you have not a hope.
@amandahudson2038
@amandahudson2038 16 күн бұрын
They didn’t have the good evidence against her in the tv bit. She is only sorry she has been caught with her hand in the till. Where where the Nolan code, o yes she cried all,over itand could not read it.
@dortchem
@dortchem 23 күн бұрын
She's only apologizing because she got caught for being a bad and lazy person.
@stevenmoore3480
@stevenmoore3480 22 күн бұрын
same old same old
@tonychorley4936
@tonychorley4936 23 күн бұрын
A craven self serving account, love it. She is a self serving , self righteous individual , working hard to serve herself.
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 23 күн бұрын
Absolutely bloody disgusting.
@stevenmoore3480
@stevenmoore3480 22 күн бұрын
She isn't the only one though is she, what about the rest of them?
@Steve14ps
@Steve14ps 22 күн бұрын
"working hard to serve herself." also working hard to save herself
@DelTangBrav
@DelTangBrav 21 күн бұрын
​@@stevenmoore3480 I agree, every employee who said "no one else has complained about this problem" MORE THAN ONCE should be held accountable too.
@vimfuego8827
@vimfuego8827 23 күн бұрын
She is not in a cloud of denial, she is in a cloud of lying and it is now clear she needs to face criminal justice for her lies.
@dcvariousvids8082
@dcvariousvids8082 23 күн бұрын
Basically she falsely accused innocent people, stole from those same people and cheerfully banked that money as a personal bonus… and she has the gall to cry for herself. Yes cry for herself and again blame others, while conveniently forgetting the pain, falsely imprisoned, the broken reputations, suicides and early deaths, of those who filled her personal bank account. And she’s only sorry for herself. It is she who ought to empty her bank accounts, give it back to the people she and the PO stole from; and she ought to spend a long time in jail. Serving the time she took from others. All this she knows… and yet she cried only for herself.
@turnerdali4676
@turnerdali4676 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely 👍🏼. She should be jailed.
@dustersinternational221
@dustersinternational221 22 күн бұрын
💯% definitely, crooks all of them.... Shame on those that hid the truth. Karma
@carrier411
@carrier411 21 күн бұрын
well said
@roberttaylor7373
@roberttaylor7373 23 күн бұрын
NO SYMPATHY FROM ME. SHE NEEDS TO LOSE HER HOME/THE 5 MILLION POUNDS PAID TO HER AND SERVE JAIL TIME. IT IS ONLY RIGHT BASED ON THE WAY SHE TREATED THE SUB POSTMASTERS.THEY DID NOT DESERVE IT.
@fuckbankers
@fuckbankers 23 күн бұрын
Suicides Bankruptcies Marriage breakdown Mental and physical health Loss of homes Stigma ....
@ThePritch74
@ThePritch74 23 күн бұрын
This. Spot on and horribly factual. x
@clivebaxter6354
@clivebaxter6354 22 күн бұрын
But she did her very best lol
@sarabrittlegill9587
@sarabrittlegill9587 22 күн бұрын
@@clivebaxter6354did her very best to ignore it and cover it all up.
@yeahdefinitely6607
@yeahdefinitely6607 23 күн бұрын
I love that Ms Hamilton is seated so calmly right in front of Paula - like a searing burn on her conscience
@mickdowns5345
@mickdowns5345 23 күн бұрын
Yes, I thought that..and Lee C To the rear on the right.
@amandamcauley
@amandamcauley 23 күн бұрын
Mrs Hamilton's expression said it all.
@joerudnik9290
@joerudnik9290 23 күн бұрын
I don’t think Vennells will care. She’s more concerned about people above her, that control her paycheck. 😉
@barryj388
@barryj388 22 күн бұрын
I don't think she has a conscience.
@sarabrittlegill9587
@sarabrittlegill9587 22 күн бұрын
@@barryj388 totally agree. She had many, many opportunities to demonstrate this and just say ‘stop’ but she chose, again and again, not to. To allow lives to be destroyed like that shows us who she is. She’s ’deeply sorry’ she got caught, that’s all. She needs to go to prison for the length of time each person whose investigation happened under her watch, added up and times by 10.
@MM.-qo7pk
@MM.-qo7pk 23 күн бұрын
Laws in the UK need to be brought in to protect the public against these criminals and fraudsters acting in the UK corporate world! Accountability laws are what is needed to make the wrongdoers do the right thing in the future!
@steveni1459
@steveni1459 21 күн бұрын
even sunak should face prison for handing his tax dodging wife millions of our cash why should we be standing by letting him get away with it...there all crooks but we are made to pay for there crimes..
@wickedwitchoftheeast88
@wickedwitchoftheeast88 21 күн бұрын
​@@steveni1459 thats what really pisses me off about the MP's they have the utter nerve to look their noses down at the working class for how we live and go after those comit benefit fraud when they thieve millions in public money and they should know better with the wealth and privileges they were born into
@MM.-qo7pk
@MM.-qo7pk 19 күн бұрын
Yes Paul vendables loved the post office to withhold information and non disclosure of information to not protect the innocent people but more incriminating them fully so they go to jail , her actions & many others were try to derail the investigation process to suit her and the post office directors on boards agenda !! Laws on disclosure should be brought into action to protect the public against these types of directors , managers , fraud investigators burying their faces under sand now ! Prue evil and unlawfully , more like criminality against communuties .
@michaelmcginley7930
@michaelmcginley7930 14 күн бұрын
The problem is the people who have the powere to change the law won't as it is designed at the moment to benefit them
@chuckyc6912
@chuckyc6912 23 күн бұрын
She should have to give back all her bonuses. And spend the rest of her life in jail.
@tommac5411
@tommac5411 23 күн бұрын
She should be glad that a police escort was present.
@BrysonCole-rl2rj
@BrysonCole-rl2rj 23 күн бұрын
Was that to make sure she turned up and didn’t flee the country?
@smrriles5668
@smrriles5668 22 күн бұрын
Why???? Do you want a lynching?? She is due a fair trial, if you think otherwise you are no better than the post office
@movesky6696
@movesky6696 21 күн бұрын
she get a lock up
@rogereynon4954
@rogereynon4954 23 күн бұрын
I hope the image of Vennells being escorted away by Police is a portent of things to come. Imagine a person if the cloth - allegedly one of compassion - being so enabling of the most vindictive people. There's a nice warm place waiting for her - and here's a test for British justice. Will it be done? Will the privileged and elite face the level of just the nation is calling for?
@LordoftheFleet
@LordoftheFleet 23 күн бұрын
Probably not!
@2412Bec
@2412Bec 23 күн бұрын
She couldn't be any more disingenuous 😂 Oh my lord, contradiction after contradiction
@stpd1957
@stpd1957 23 күн бұрын
Ah c'mon, there weren't that many tears. It was a performance. She will be protected by the CPS, her church and the ruling political class. She will never be held accountable for her actions regardless of the outcome of the enquiry. She had to 'endure' three days of forensic questioning; this is water off a ducks back to people like Vennells. She can relax now and go back to her church and wallow in all the money she 'earned' during her less than illustrious career. What has she lost? Just the ridiculous little trinket that she had to return? Not much in fact. That is a very small price to pay for her disgusting behaivour.
@pinballrobbie
@pinballrobbie 22 күн бұрын
I would love to hear what her Church had to say about Paula, a great advertisement for the Church.
@Scott-up3bq
@Scott-up3bq 21 күн бұрын
Jonathan Aitken,and Jeffrey Archer committed perjury and went to jail.never say never.i liked your comment.but we can hope
@colinhayter4029
@colinhayter4029 23 күн бұрын
She loved the Post Office yet destroyed it along with many who loyally served it.
@theloneranger2101
@theloneranger2101 23 күн бұрын
Why is she entitled to have been escorted into and out of the inquiry by five Police Officers for three days? She has certainly Swingled enough bonuses from the Subpostmasters to pay for her own security. Again, tax payers picking up the bill for the so-called entitled in our society, it makes me so annoyed that she gets this privilege. I really hope she ends up in a court of law and is sent down to spend a good few years to reflect on the harm she has done to these innocent people at the Kings Pleasure. That would be a very fitting end to this Wretched Woman.
@TheLampini
@TheLampini 23 күн бұрын
I did hear that she's had some private security at her massive house for the past couple of years - I doubt if THAT came out of her £5.1 million.
@happyjonn9242
@happyjonn9242 22 күн бұрын
Because if the police weren't there either she would be attacked and sue the government meaning our taxes would be paying her compensation, or she could just refuse to attend on the grounds that it isn't safe.
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 22 күн бұрын
Because she's had hundreds of death threats.
@theloneranger2101
@theloneranger2101 22 күн бұрын
@happyjonn9242 I did say in my comment that she is wealthy enough from her bonuses alone to pay for her own security, it shouldn't be the Tax Payer picking up the bill for her security. The inquiry she attended lasted 3 days, and the 5 Police officers escorted her in and out of the inquiry for 3 days. Now, don't you think those 5 Police officers would have been better employed doing Police work for the community and not escorting this Wretched Women!
@happyjonn9242
@happyjonn9242 22 күн бұрын
@@theloneranger2101 even if she paid for her own security police would still be required in case one of her bodyguards decided to stamp on someone's head. And look at Mark Duggan inquest for an example of how intimidating these things can get when emotions run high. police are required, just deal with it.
@IbnBahtuta
@IbnBahtuta 23 күн бұрын
The nice smiling lady has been staring at Vennells for 3 days solid. I only found out today who she was. She is awesome, bless her.
@fatbelly27
@fatbelly27 23 күн бұрын
Jo Hamilton and Alan Bates have been at the forefront of the campaign for justice. None of this would have happened without them. Successive ministers were not particularly interested. E.g Ed Davey
@eliotmansfield
@eliotmansfield 22 күн бұрын
she’s been sat there nearly every day - seema misra is often there too
@trishmarshall2371
@trishmarshall2371 22 күн бұрын
Jo Hamilton is a classy woman. My respect to her and all the other SPMs involved 🙏🏻
@BossySwan
@BossySwan 21 күн бұрын
Mrs Goggins
@robinblick9375
@robinblick9375 17 күн бұрын
You can see that inside, she burns with loathing.
@BoojayDeeth
@BoojayDeeth 23 күн бұрын
Denial is the traditional route for those desperate to avoid prison.
@cndns2
@cndns2 23 күн бұрын
We've been watching this inquiry and after 3 days of watching PV's lies and putting blame on others, it becomes evident she is devoid of human feelings and compassion. Despicable creature this.
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 21 күн бұрын
Vennells is a great example for the integrity of the Church of England
@getheroutofthetruck
@getheroutofthetruck 23 күн бұрын
'I was more bored than outraged.' Wow.
@josephhoward3558
@josephhoward3558 23 күн бұрын
Even now she can't connect to an ounce of genuine regret or shame.
@user-js3rg9sj1k
@user-js3rg9sj1k 23 күн бұрын
SHE WALKED AWAY WITH £5.1.MILLION.😢😢😢😢😢
@glazierblue573
@glazierblue573 23 күн бұрын
This woman has no scrupulous, ethics, humility and I dought even a reflection!
@user-js3rg9sj1k
@user-js3rg9sj1k 22 күн бұрын
Hhhaaa post bag,a under her eyes
@sarabrittlegill9587
@sarabrittlegill9587 22 күн бұрын
No wonder she loved the Post Office so much
@user-js3rg9sj1k
@user-js3rg9sj1k 22 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@Goozo612
@Goozo612 22 күн бұрын
And it still looks like that 🤡😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@RosieHarp
@RosieHarp 23 күн бұрын
As Cliff on 'Faking It' tells us, if you cry genuinely it takes the voice a long time to recover. It took her 1 second, then she realised her mistake and went back to the whiny voice. SHE'S FAKING IT .......
@mikegleed5842
@mikegleed5842 20 күн бұрын
👍
@kevinmcguire1049
@kevinmcguire1049 23 күн бұрын
She is right, she loved The Post Office, the institution, and that came first above the people who worked for it…..and at their expense…
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 21 күн бұрын
I think her love for the Post Office brand comes a very distant second place compared to her love of wealth and personal gains. She is just like so many other hypocritical characters in the many religious cults.
@Pat14922
@Pat14922 23 күн бұрын
This inquiry, for her is the prequel. She has her eye firmly fixed on the criminal trials to follow. She has decided that ignorance and incompetence is her best defence, and has had several years to prepare and practice it. Her response to the enquiry was 750 pages., which says alot. Her Legal council for key years has decided to stay in Australia 😁😁
@fatbelly27
@fatbelly27 23 күн бұрын
When she says that she has been working on this full time for 2 years, that is exactly what she means. I fear she will succeed
@Pat14922
@Pat14922 22 күн бұрын
@@fatbelly27 I'm not sure. Much of the work was on email, and therefore evidence.
@joanneramsden1514
@joanneramsden1514 23 күн бұрын
The bottom line is paula vennells has and will always protect the post office brand ,backed by government MPs
@losthope9909
@losthope9909 23 күн бұрын
She absolutely failed in that regard, damaged the brand irrevocably!
@Gilan4983
@Gilan4983 23 күн бұрын
On a day when Lucy Letby’s appeal was dismissed Paula Vennels was the most hated woman in the UK. Neither showed contrition or remorse for their actions and both deserve long prison sentences
@phil7794
@phil7794 23 күн бұрын
As the boss of this 'legal mafia' she should be locked up straight away along with her fellow cohorts. If there is any justice then arrest warrants must follow very soon. If not, then this is further proof of a cover-up reaching the highest levels. I find it coincidental that a General Election has been called at this time just as the Public Enquiry has reached its concluding stages.
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie 23 күн бұрын
She flat out lied to parliament.
@mollienight
@mollienight 22 күн бұрын
Mr Henry in his cross examination uncovered a possible little nugget of gold, so much so that Sir Wyn asked for those documents to be passed to him. Vennells admitted to have put pressure on the writers of the RM brochure concerning the IPO of the RM to remove any mention of the PO and Horizon problems. I wonder if the main task for Vennells was to be a safe pair of hands to steer the RM into privatisation. She would have been aware of all the problems as soon as she entered the PO in 2007, then there was the separation in 2012, and the IPO in 2013. This conspiracy to cover up the problems goes all the way up to Government and Whitehall. I wonder how much Moya Greene also knew, despite her texts to Vennells accusing her that she knew all along. It's all very grubby.
@paulinebarbrook4295
@paulinebarbrook4295 22 күн бұрын
a politcal nodding dog plant...........ticked all the boxes now job done.........if legal justice is sought be ready for ALL the TICKS on those will come out.........BIG BOXES OF BOO HOO b S discrimination take your pick.............look who is backing her....!!
@robinmyman
@robinmyman 23 күн бұрын
Why didn’t successive Governments see that something was very wrong? Any firm of Accountants could have soon determined that the Horizon system reconciliation was flawed.
@chrisoneill3999
@chrisoneill3999 23 күн бұрын
Conservative governments?
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 23 күн бұрын
@@chrisoneill3999 Mostly. Rumours about problems with the Horizon system were first made public mid-2009 by Computer Weekly.
@johnlowe-tq6ey
@johnlowe-tq6ey 22 күн бұрын
Good point
@sarabrittlegill9587
@sarabrittlegill9587 22 күн бұрын
@@ftumschkas an IT professional of over 30 years the system would be the first place I would look. Many systems are not fit for purpose, especially large scale monoliths like Horizon, which was done on the cheap. I would demand test plans, logs, results, load test results, the whole lot, and speak to every person who worked on the development, on their own, outside the office. Sorted.
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 22 күн бұрын
@@chrisoneill3999 The simple fact is, this scandal wouldn't have seen the light of day if it wasn't for then conservative MP James Arbuthnot. It was him who forced Post Office management to bring in independent forensic accountants then dragged them before a parliamentary select committee where it was proven beyond any doubt that Vennels & co had fitted the postmasters up.
@spencerhulme1203
@spencerhulme1203 23 күн бұрын
All the sub postmasters were also sorry! But most of them were sent to prison regardless of pleas! Whiile Paulla and Co enjoyed sunny holidays off the proceed payments called Bonuses! Do not let out Justice system fail the victims they should be sent to prison for a minimum of 5 years!
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 23 күн бұрын
Broadly true, but by no means most of them. 230 sub postmasters were imprisoned out of more than 900 convictions. That said, it's 230 imprisonments, and 900 convictions, too many.
@tornagawn
@tornagawn 23 күн бұрын
She loved the Post Office over the staff, she put the organisations before people’s lives.
@hoobsgroove
@hoobsgroove 23 күн бұрын
is she gonna go to prison if she's sorry
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 23 күн бұрын
I damn well hope she goes to prison,what an absolute cow she is, that 3 million should be given to the people she lied about .🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@user-bl4xm6nq3v
@user-bl4xm6nq3v 22 күн бұрын
I find it so hard to believe that someone such as Paula Vennels as CEO of the Post Office Ltd has the audacity to say that she knew so little of what was going on about the Horizon scandal. I lived in Bethesda, North Wales up to 2014 before my wife and I moved to the East Midlands. Even I knew about the scandal long before I left North Wales as I lived not far from Gaerwen where the sub postmaster there was sent to jail. How can she be so shameful and lie on oath to deny knowledge of such things? I cannot recall, I was not told, I can’t recollect cos it was so long ago and on and on. Yet she could remember quite clearly as far back as 2010 when she was managing director of discrepancies in other staff members work. What a joke. She could remember absolutely everything which might incriminate others but “could not recall” anything where there was any chance of her incriminating herself. She lied on oath and should be sent to the Crown Court for this even. Another charge would be to have removed valuable information from the papers when Royal Mail was sold which any intended shareholder should have by law have known before buying. She lied and I can’t wait until the enquiry comes to an end to read their conclusions. It was outright disgusting the obstacles placed in the way of Alan Bates in his quest to find the truth. It took him years to get the information and Paula Vennels was determined to spend whatever it needed of public money to grind Mr Bates down no matter what the cost. She was effectively trying to bankrupt him out of the way. Jesus died on the cross. She should go the same way. To think she is on a shortlist as the next Bishop just shows the corruption within the church in which she is an ordained minister. HOW SHAMEFUL AND CORRUPT IS THAT ALONE? She should go to Jail for the collective amount of time she sent the innocent sub post masters to jail to serve. She should also be bankrupted as that she forced the sub postmasters to do. She even had the cheek and be so cruel against the innocent sub post masters whom she knew were wrongly convicted to make them pay the PO costs in each case. THIS PROVES BEYOND ALL DOUBT THAT SHE WAS HELL BENT ON PROVIDING THE MAXIMUM PROFIT POSSIBLE FOR THE SALE OF THE ROYAL MAIL AND MAKE HER LOOK GOOD WHICH IN TURN WOULD MEAN A GREATER BONUS.
@IggyGoesPop666
@IggyGoesPop666 22 күн бұрын
In preparation for this three day event, Vennell's would have undertaken dozens of practice training cross examinations with her lawyers to iron out how to present herself and deflect the accusations during the inquiry. She knows that it's not working as she is constantly breaking down in tears, whilst we can see that she was either asleep at the wheel or she is lying about her time in charge of the Post Office! Either one, its obvious to see that her priority was always to look after herself, her reputation, her performance bonuses & pension top ups as she happily sat back and watched people lose their livelihoods whilst some of them lost their lives. She now needs to be investigated by the Police on criminal charges and if/ when she is found guilty ... she needs to be thrown into prison. Every penny that she has taken in bonuses must be paid back in full and with interest as she has fraudulently stolen them from the Post Office/ British Tax Payers!
@FBDAGM2023
@FBDAGM2023 22 күн бұрын
At 2.11 she’s interrupted, turns her head quickly in anger and THEN remembers to get back into ‘damaged apology mode’. True colours showing for a second. Getting so much money as a bonus for destroying ordinary lives is a shame, but it’s just another day in Tory Britain where those lucky enough to get onto the gravy train just p{%s on the rest of us every day we can’t pay the rent or food bills.
@constantius4654
@constantius4654 22 күн бұрын
Ten years in prison for her please.
@MrOhdead
@MrOhdead 22 күн бұрын
She did not let them down, she threw them under the bus.
@raymondbruce7175
@raymondbruce7175 23 күн бұрын
The justice system must be utterly corrupt if she is not imprisoned and everyone else responsible.
@adelaidelawn
@adelaidelawn 23 күн бұрын
If we've learned anything from this, its that the justice system is corrupt
@internetpolification
@internetpolification 22 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to count up how many times she says “I don’t recall”, “I don’t remember” and (her favourite) “I imagine…….”
@velouris76
@velouris76 22 күн бұрын
And, just to think, she's also a vicar in the CofE.. The lawyer saying that she "preached compassion, but didn’t practice it" hit the nail on the head, vile person!!!
@user-js3rg9sj1k
@user-js3rg9sj1k 23 күн бұрын
LIAR.
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie 23 күн бұрын
She should be made to pay heavy compensation to the victims.
@mikeellis4345
@mikeellis4345 23 күн бұрын
Vennells has more protection than a certain royal…
@raymondcowey1041
@raymondcowey1041 22 күн бұрын
A prime example of someone promoted way beyond their capabilities. Lousy at the job, good at the denials and excuses.
@nickbrian5141
@nickbrian5141 22 күн бұрын
When your lies come to light and you cry for yourself.
@Bob-tq2jv
@Bob-tq2jv 23 күн бұрын
Paula is still crying all the way to the bank
@stevenmoore3480
@stevenmoore3480 22 күн бұрын
The judges won't put one of their own in jail, these people are VENAL.
@dominicjohn8954
@dominicjohn8954 23 күн бұрын
Her shame is what makes her cry
@amandamcauley
@amandamcauley 23 күн бұрын
I don't believe that it was shame, she's been found out and the tears are for herself.
@RosieHarp
@RosieHarp 23 күн бұрын
She has no conscience and it was a fake cry.
@dominicjohn8954
@dominicjohn8954 22 күн бұрын
@@amandamcauley That's actually what I meant. She's been found out in public and she feels shame. Absolutely those tears are for no-one else other than her
@rossi6113
@rossi6113 22 күн бұрын
She didnt "let anyone down" at all. She deliberately and knowingly participated in corruption of the most appalling kind. She and her equally corrupt colleagues MUST answer for their crimes in a court of law.
@laphelps1
@laphelps1 23 күн бұрын
Horrible self serving woman of the cloth. I want to see her sit before a judge!
@dianecameron137
@dianecameron137 22 күн бұрын
she does not remember sending woman out of the room but then said she felt bad about it how can you feel bad about doing it and say you dont remember doing it
@user-sp5bz2uq8b
@user-sp5bz2uq8b 22 күн бұрын
Let's all start a public petition to make sure she faces criminal proceedings! Parliament must then enforce it, regardless of what the police do!!!
@stuartrichardson5699
@stuartrichardson5699 22 күн бұрын
Parliament can’t meet whilst it is prorogued withthe forth coming election
@barryj388
@barryj388 22 күн бұрын
A cloud of denial? She should be in a prison.
@wildandbarefoot
@wildandbarefoot 23 күн бұрын
Poor woman did her best. She tried really hard to te best of her abilities. But the tears just wouldn't come ...
@peterwragg5255
@peterwragg5255 22 күн бұрын
The most hated person in the UK, and rightly so
@wendio37
@wendio37 12 күн бұрын
I've never seen someone try so hard to gaslight victims of a criminal act.
@jacquelinewilson2279
@jacquelinewilson2279 21 күн бұрын
Take her money from her - that is what matters the most to her. Take away her bonuses, her wages and any earnings during her time as an incompetent and harmful manager. Crocodile tears - her "lack of recognition of the power imbalance" as she puts it, amounted to suicides, jail time and lives ruined.
@georgemorley1029
@georgemorley1029 22 күн бұрын
The information was brought *directly* to her by second sight but because it didn’t tell her what she wanted to hear, that horizon was working, but instead revealed that everything was true and horizon was at fault, she dismissed it. She *didn’t* ignore it, she dismissed it. This will be crucial at her criminal trial because to demonstrate mens rea (guilty mind, the knowledge of wrongdoing), being ignorant simply means that she didn’t know. Being dismissive means she did know and chose not to act.
@1967SJH
@1967SJH 21 күн бұрын
In the case of martin Griffiths, a subpostmaster so hounded by the Post Office that he took his own life she has blood on her hands as surely as if she had thrown him in front of the bus herself. The whole incident, from start to finish is sickening and a complete affront to all norms of decency, honesty and respect.
@zaksalleh8693
@zaksalleh8693 23 күн бұрын
Send her to prison.
@fuckbankers
@fuckbankers 23 күн бұрын
She's sorry she got caught.
@johnburns6422
@johnburns6422 23 күн бұрын
Has the mighty fallen ? No , People like her have powerful connections and those will fight every inch to protect and save her from Jail because she is one of Them, not so for the Post Office plebs .
@philippedley5073
@philippedley5073 23 күн бұрын
She is part of The Establishment they are the real power in the country.
@user-ui9hu3kr6j
@user-ui9hu3kr6j 23 күн бұрын
How right you are
@LordoftheFleet
@LordoftheFleet 23 күн бұрын
I greatly fear that you are right! On the other hand, if she doesn't get what she deserves, I also fear that there will be extremely serious riots.
@paulreyland9671
@paulreyland9671 22 күн бұрын
She couldn’t tell the truth if her life depended on it. Lock her up & throw away the key. I would like to know what she did in her role as the CEO.
@timbeckett5062
@timbeckett5062 21 күн бұрын
Who's responsible for giving this woman the job in the first place?
@knicol46
@knicol46 22 күн бұрын
Amazing that all the directors and lawyers involved all suffer from selective amnesia only when evidence is found against them.
@DavidMyers-bl9gx
@DavidMyers-bl9gx 23 күн бұрын
Take her money its the only thing these people Feel. Prison. Then Back to a millionaire lifestyle. She stole her money her money from hard working people.
@Mudhooks
@Mudhooks 22 күн бұрын
At any point did anyone look at, IF these people they were accusing of “stealing funds” where the alleged “stolen money” went? Did they ever once wonder “If they stole all that money” they had bough houses or cars or went on expensive holidays? Because if they had they would have discovered that no one was benefitting from the money they were accused of having stolen. And how would hundreds of Postmasters have decided to fleece the Post Office? The notion that all these innocent people either decided on their own or get together to steal money from post offices across the country? Fact… they wouldn’t and didn’t. But it was easier to believe that than actually properly investigate the facts that these people had no reason to steal the money, showed no signs of having large amounts of money come magically into their hands… It was easier to threaten and bully innocent Post Masters into pleading guilty and prosecuting them and those who refused to admit guilt to something they didn’t do and believe incompetent Post Office employees and contractors who didn’t do their jobs that “there was no glitch” and to pocket the proceeds of the actual victims’ own money.
@jerrywaterfalls5865
@jerrywaterfalls5865 22 күн бұрын
“Please don’t send me to jail I didn’t know I don’t remember”
@Tj-ot4jp
@Tj-ot4jp 21 күн бұрын
"I'm deeply sorry that I have been caught out"
@tednash7210
@tednash7210 23 күн бұрын
No sympathy, fullest of condolences to the victims, both present and departed.
@atlasgabriel5461
@atlasgabriel5461 22 күн бұрын
Crocodile tears and insincere apologies aren’t enough, there needs to be an unprecedented and debilitating personal financial penalty and a substantial prison sentence that cannot be commuted and that is not subject to parole.
@hanselmansell7555
@hanselmansell7555 22 күн бұрын
No prison for people like this is why we are in the mess that we are in today 😔
@jamesreynolds2867
@jamesreynolds2867 22 күн бұрын
Why bother with this enquiry? just put her on trial.
@brettlittle9913
@brettlittle9913 22 күн бұрын
Admitting that she loved the post office is the clincher,meaning she was prepared to do anything not to have her love damaged,
@glazierblue573
@glazierblue573 23 күн бұрын
This woman has no scrupulous, ethics, humility and I dought even a reflection!
@BrysonCole-rl2rj
@BrysonCole-rl2rj 23 күн бұрын
I understand vampires have no reflection.
@keithm6117
@keithm6117 22 күн бұрын
Paula vennels gave noting to the PO when you consider the damage the brand has suffered, she spent nearly a decade sitting on her hands "laying low" pocketing the bonuses, the pension, that final payday, while innocent people suffered under Horizon, and she couldn't be bothered to raise a finger "not intrested".. So now the organisation will have to pay millions in compensation "thru the Taxpayer" because of her greed and ignorance.. Let's hope the prison sentence for the pain, suffering and expense caused is considerable.
@JonDingle
@JonDingle 21 күн бұрын
Just as the subpostmasters faced criminal charges so should the managment of the PO involved in the witchhunt of subpostmasters face criminal charges!
@christopherbriscoe8665
@christopherbriscoe8665 22 күн бұрын
"..I have answered honestly...". God knows she's lying through her teeth.
@user-mq9kt5kd3q
@user-mq9kt5kd3q 23 күн бұрын
Poor lass, she let people down without even knowing it. Bless.
@harrycday6528
@harrycday6528 18 күн бұрын
Her and her board of the Post 0ffice should all be charged after this investigation.😡😡😡😡
@josephmalik3861
@josephmalik3861 23 күн бұрын
send her to jail
@roberttaylor7373
@roberttaylor7373 23 күн бұрын
ARE THEY STILL TAKING RESERVATIONS AT THE TOWER OF LONDON?
@tommac5411
@tommac5411 23 күн бұрын
You'd think with all the money she "earned" that she could have seen a dentist.
@user-ui9hu3kr6j
@user-ui9hu3kr6j 23 күн бұрын
😂
@user-cx4eg4te8q
@user-cx4eg4te8q 23 күн бұрын
Yes wot had she done with all her bonuses and pension she needs to paid it all back
@kinorspielmann4649
@kinorspielmann4649 22 күн бұрын
CofE ... CEO ... CBE A country rotten to the core
@WolfmanWoody
@WolfmanWoody 22 күн бұрын
The sheer lack of competence in running a national business like POL has been exemplified in the recent evidences given by POL's senior executives. How ever did they get their jobs.
@Bluetoothedshark
@Bluetoothedshark 23 күн бұрын
The vicar despicable
@TheLampini
@TheLampini 23 күн бұрын
They STILL owe Jo £36,000 that they STOLE from her to "put right the shortfall"! No wonder it looked like she had lasers coming out of her eyes. So not THAT sorry - eh Paula?
@fatbelly27
@fatbelly27 23 күн бұрын
The first thing a new government should do is insist on criminal trials for the main players. Not just Vennells.
@paulsimon6687
@paulsimon6687 14 күн бұрын
she loved the post office, says it all, put the post office before the lives of innocent people, shame on her
@carforumwanker
@carforumwanker 14 күн бұрын
shocked that not one relative has "directly" taken action against her and taught her a very big lesson and not care one bit about what happens after
@ritab8663
@ritab8663 23 күн бұрын
Hollow… I let these people down
@andrewrobinson1634
@andrewrobinson1634 23 күн бұрын
Her fake crying reminds me of Kyle Rittenhouse TBH
@Mudhooks
@Mudhooks 22 күн бұрын
“Waited years for this…” They waited decades. And her crocodile tears mean nothing. As my mother used to say “If you were sorry you wouldn’t have done it.” She’s only sorry that she got caught in her lies, deceptions, ignoring and hiding facts, and responsible for the conviction innocent people… for the deaths of some of them. I hope she gets jail time.
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