Wrong, if you only do good when your team is doing good you arent a team player, you are simply relying on your team. Team player is playing for the team, e.g sacrificing kda to win like tanks/supports, trading kda for macro advantage like offlane split pushers. Like utility tanks giving blue buff to the mage, or giving ref buff to the marksman. Inherently adc roles can not be teamplayers because they need every resource they can get as fast as possible. If simply doing good in teamfights makes you a "teamplayer" then benny, super marco, kelra, emman are just better than oheb, these four can lane better and does good if not better on teamfights as well.

@@casualtee626 You have your points.....and you're too focused on game mechanics on how is it like being a team player. You've mentioned this and that, but I have to cut you short and point out that its a collective effort. You rely on your team, they rely on you. You can be the best gold laner, or the best carry with KDA 70/0/15. but in the end you still got clapped because you're not a team player. Being in a team fights does makes you a team player, and not being in a team fights doesnt mean you're not a team player. Its all about timing, while others do their job , you as a gold laner take your time and strive for golds until you're ready. Your team on the other hand gives you necessary comms,infos,visions for you to effectively continue mining. And again being a marksman doesnt make you an island and not a team player. At the start of the game you're still a baby and needs to be molded and fed and yes you'll have to bleed in times. Bro I see your game vision and perspective and its quite good. But you gotta work on your wisdom. You're the type of a guy that embarrass your team members when they fail rather than lifting their spirits. You're the type of a guy that see defeat as a failure rather than a lesson.And a type of a guy that only praise and respects only the ones who are winning. In short, you're an oheb hater 😅. by the way, Kelra is my favorite gold laner. but I never underestimate ohebs skills. a pro is a pro. and its a thousand miles away from being an RG player. So never take away your respect on them.

Yeah but that's mostly because of V33NUS and Wise. Imagine if you replace Oheb with Kelra on BLCK. They are more scary. Oheb was just lucky he got better team than Kelra that's why he got those championships.

@@tripsntricks5872 yeah u r correct but synergy also matters in team kelra is slightly better then oheb doesn't mean he would be better in blacklist. Even the weakest player in team is replaced with better player they still need time to make the new synergy work. & I think kelra wouldn't work in prime blacklist because he's little slashy gold laner. & Blklist was more of a disciplined players they don't care for playoffs. & Also u guys give more credit to only vwise. for me they were all together was stronger & hadji + Edward so underrated player they need some praise too

@@JOY_BOY.999 ofcourse hadji and edward are all great. That goes without saying. But just think about it for a second.. if you look back at BLCK’s matches before, there were multiple times they vee needs to rotate to gold lane because Oheb gets bullied. Oheb rarely wins his lane. Just imagine the space Kelra can give to BLCK if vee don’t need to constantly baby sit Oheb to make sure he wins his lane. Ofcourse I’m not discounting Oheb. He is good in his own accord but I think Kelra is just better in micro, marco, laning, positioning and map awareness.

@@tripsntricks5872 hmmm. That's correct too. If it was kelra instead oheb since the start of blacklist they would be a lot scarier.

@@JOY_BOY.999 Yeah man. Although Ch4knu, e2max and the rest of OMG are good, Kelra is the main carry that’s why they are easy to read because all you got to do is shut down Kelra. Oheb was lucky he wasn’t constantly being hunted by enemy team because mostly they focus on shutting down wise and vee. But Oheb is still good tho.. he had his moments which is why he got the nickname The Filipino sniper.🎯

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Yea what happened when Venus rested? Did he win? lol

@@riri2803 I mean he qualified for M5...what did Kelra do since Veewise retire? Correct, back to back to back to back 1st round playoffs exit

@@itachiuchiha108 Why would you connect Kelra with VeeWise? Huh? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@riri2803 because you are not understanding my point lmao....you are trying to belittle Oheb because he hasn't won anything with Veewise but you are acting as if Kelra has done anything special...you said he gets carried by Veewise but when they rested Kelra didn't do anything to Oheb in his lane...one qualified for M series one got knocked out 1st round playoffs 3 times...Oheb pre post Veewise has achieved more than Kelra in his entire career...understand???

@@itachiuchiha108 Yes, Kelra has done special things as an individual. There is a reason why most pros, analysts, and coaches see him as the BEST GOLD LANER. S7 Best Rookie MSC MVP S9 Best Gold Laner S12 Best Gold Laner Oheb has not received any individual accolades since M3, and everyone knows that Venus was the true MVP of Blacklist. 🤷

laglag na omg lods?

yes he wants to secure kill rather than winning the team fights. Difference between Oohed and Keira.

Trust me bro these Kelra d riders will ride Kelra even if he clears a minion wave...my guy has one one trophy in his career and everyone treats him like a god and has never qualified for an M series...meanwhile Oheb does his best and people still call him "average gold laner"

even with prime blacklist, they always still won and out micro'd enemy teams in the crucial intense teamfights. those matches against BTK and RRQ were far from boring

Facts​@@itachiuchiha108

​@@itachiuchiha108the hard carry on prime blacklist was hadji and edward, mostly edward. Trio mid veenus, wise and hadji was also top tier. Meanwhile oheb always has been an average gold laner, he always gets out laned, when the team was doing good oheb was getting out laned still. Oheb was good on teamfights because his team was strong, look at blacklist now. Hadji fell off, edward is still the playmaker, yue is comparable to prime hadji but their synergy on trio mid is horrendous, now oheb cant to anything. When blacklist rn makes a good play or has a good win, its always because of either yue or edward making plays and giving space, not oheb.

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But who lose ?

He won the fight but lost the battle. This game is about who's the better team not who's the better player.

Msc ata

Tama Yung nakikita mo tol, pati si escalera butas din pwede pa si super yoshi don eh.panget maglaro ni jem kahit lamang sila gap parin sya ng katapat sa lane buhat na buhat Nung trio Ng onic

it's a phrase meaning the same thing, but it's always said as a joke-- "well, well, well, look how the turns have tabled" is a comedic villain-ish thing to say.

Who you?

No, they need three points to secure their playoffs spot, ideally achieved through a 2-0 victory against Onic. However, since they only won 2-1, they fell short of making it. But, for the upcoming matches, they just need to win one game.

​@@gauannorwinagas9384 You mean, one game? Not one match?

@@Koji_Ethan yes sir. Even if they lose the match with a score of 2-1 fashion, they will still secure their spot in the playoffs.

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How about kelra?

Sa veewise sila nka sandal realtalk lng no hate..Hindi sila championship team pag wala ang veewise .Naging balance ang team ng blck pagdating ng veewise tsaka naalagaan goldlaner masyadu kaya ng hindi na naglaro veewise parang normal goldlaner nlng si oheb . Kung ikumpara mu si oheb kay super marco,emann, benny at kelra kita mo ang agwat ng laro ni oheb sa kanila n mga kayang mag dominate sa laning.

Straight facts

Si Oheb parang si Draymond Green lang.

His mad his teammates leaves him cause he can only play one tap heroes

Hahaha