And he asks where Frodo is.

Yes, then he immediately confesses to trying to take the ring.

@@chenereeyes! He admits to what he did & knows how badly he messed up. He doesn’t try to make excuses. Love it.

Very well said, and all valid points as well. You're right about Boromir not using words to refer to oneself like "me" or "I" very much. His concern is always for others as is seen in his moments with the fellowship. In Osgiliath he says "My place is here with my People" knowing he is a man of his people (Gondor) and for the people. His father on the other hand says "Bring ME back this mighty gift (the ring)". Boromir only agrees because his Father is convinced The Ring may turn the tides of war in Gondor's favor; and his father essentially guilt-trips him into going "Would you dare deny Your Own Father?!". In Osgiliath Boromir is very aware the danger of The Ring "Isildur's Bane" he & his father both know of The Ring's corruption. But his Father Forces him to go, and Boromir convinces himself that he can handle this extremly dangerous mission for his family, but more profoundly- for the people (humanity). Throughout the Lord of the Rings, it really is Boromir (And Faramir) who best capture one huge underlying narrative in LOTR- which is: The Struggle of Humanity.

Makes you think that Boromir would have been an excellent Steward/King of Gondor. Nobody loves their land and people like Boromir. He has human faults but his heart is always in the right place. He cries in Lorien thinking about the possible fall of Gondor. He’s by far my favorite character. Nothing is more moving than his transformation from “Gondor has no king” to telling Aragorn “My king” in his last breath.

Studying a pint of newly poured thick brown Guinness Ale on a bar, noticing the minutea of bubbles in the glass, Guinness is the only beer where the bubbles float up or down equally in the glass, as if there's no gravity in there. The ale has the same rich color tone of Teak wood, which has the specific gravity of water, 1.0, so the wood doesn't float or sink. I imagine humanity in the same condition, each bubble a person's universe, souls and the soul's reasons equally rising and falling under the firmament until humanity can be decent to each other without laws, when the Six Commandments and the Golden Rule are not a natural matter of the heart, then at least a reliable decision. To be a "Man." God isn't rolling back the sky like a scroll to let us out of this school/ prison/asylum/until we figure this out... So if the firmament is like an airlock, when it opens, does it open gentle? The "perfection" of Heaven is on a scale of 12, (17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind." The "perfection" that humanity can aim for in this mortal world is on a scale of 10. Learning to manage the Nine gates of the physical body in the Bagavad Gita, and the 10th gate is the Head revealed by the Gnostic Lithargoel Lau Tzu describes a scale of progression- Chaos- ritual- patriotism- morality- And Jesus describes hell as the Outer Darkness, and instructs His followers to say, "we come from the light.." From what direction are structure and ritual of Religion a "good" thing. .going up,learning love when recovering from chaos, by choice in a Universe of Free Will. From what direction Laws and ritual of Religion a "bad" habit ...going down when used without love to control and profit, not allowing free will. In a few lines from Ridley Scott's movie, Kingdom of Heaven The young king- "It seems I've lost my religion" The Hospitaller Knight (an angel) "I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" Ive seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of God. I've seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers... holiness is in right action. And courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves."

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It is tragedies like that of Boromir's betrayal, Denathor's madness and despair and Theoden's absence while his son died that outline the far flung evil the Ring represents. Only hobbits, with such small ambitions could hope to resist the Ring's influence, while greater and better men are twisted to evil by their very resolve to defend that which they love.

True.

now that you say it, it made remind of the scene where vegeta dies in namek while crying to goku

I don't think it's a confidence that "Yes, there is weakness, there is frailty, but there is courage also and honor to be found in men." describes Boromir to a fault.

Not in the books. Aragorn is old and wise and always knows what he is doing.

@@ishmaelforester9825 No even there he is not ready and spends decades with the rangers of the north consciously avoiding trying to reclaim his birthright. I recall it being a sticking point between him and Elrond.

4:38 this scene brings a tear to my eye. Stunning acting

Do you even English, amigo?

@@MadCapMag what?

@@MadCapMag Son Goku is the strongest Pokemon in Yugioh.

Gets me every time too. I used to watch the Amon Hen scene over & over again on my Extended DVD copy of it as a child. I'm also so extremely glad I saw all the 3 films in theaters as a child.

The second arrow hitting him and he still turns and keeps fighting, that part hits hard every time.

@@VirtueInsightWebPage Wow, you were REALLY lucky! I wish I could have seen them in theater, it must have been awesome!

@@494Farrell It's the look on his face when he looks back at the Hobbits that gets me. He knows he can't save them, he has lost all hope, but there's no one else there to protect them right now. He can't give up, he can't die, he has to fight on even though he will fail. That right there, that's Honour.

Yeahhh... I made this vid in 2018, But as they say- Hindsight is 2020. For you now- I highly recommend my Happyish Video Essay.

‘My brother My captain My king’ - Boromir son of Denethor

Faramir, from the chapter The Window of the West: "For myself," said Faramir, "I would see the White Tree in flower again in the courts of the kings, and the Silver Crown return, and Minas Tirith in peace: Minas Anor again as of old, full of light, high and fair, beautiful as a queen among other queens: not a mistress of many slaves, nay, not even a kind mistress of willing slaves. War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer that would devour us all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor; and I would have loved her for her memory, her ancientry, her beauty, and her present wisdom. Not feared, save as men may fear the dignity of a man, old and wise. from the chapter The Window of the West: "We are truth-speakers, we men of Gondor. We boast seldom, and then perform, or die in the attempt." Given these words, we must also believe Boromir was a man of quality just like his brother.

@@PittsburghSonido Beautiful quote. Love it.

he wanted frodo to "borrow him" the ring, its called Boromir not Stealamir

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Indeed, indeed. I think many are simply casual viewers to film (which is fine), but in doing so may not think too much about the intricacy of a story. Boromir is very much a tragic hero; he means to do well & to help the Fellowship; but in the end he fails. He loses his composure to the ring; he fails to protect Merry & Pippin. But His remorse is genuine; his behavior understandable. Despite being a noble; his challenges are relatable; he has difficult responsibilities to worry about back home, he feels he needs to prove himself to his family (his father); these are deeply human emotions & concerns that he faces, that many people could easily sympathize for and draw personal connections to on a human level. So yeah, he's a compelling character. :-)

the fact that he wants to take the ring to gondor blindly despite the psychological pressure harshly posed by his father does not justify his argument made in the council, where despite being noble does not capture rason or provide alternative solutions open to discussion. in my opinion the subject in discussion should be how boromir understands the true powers of the ring and how important the fellowships mission is. is a kindly hearted character and i still choke everytime a see him dying, but his only motivation for taking the ring was inceptionize by his father. he is a nice guy :) nice video

Until recently I did not see the extended editions, but I still thought Boromir was awesome. People who think boromir is bad after watching the theatrical are either not compassionate enough themselves or are just not paying attention.

Worth noting that Denethor is somewhat more evil (villanous? darker?) character in the movies, than in books. In the books Denethor is still jealous of affection his father had for Gandalf and by that same extension he distrusted Aragorn, even though he was the king by right and blood. However Denethor was prematurely aged ruler, who spent all his life fighting a losing war of attrition against Mordor, leading a country in it's twilight years, it's glory a distant memory. Locked in a battle of will against terrible enemy by Palantir and running out of options, I can see why he tried to capture the One Ring, he was seeing it more by eyes of military strategist, who hoped to capture a vital weapon for his side and deny it to the enemy. Ring was a double edged sword though, and ultimately would destroy them all, but he couldn't see it, or refused to do so. He falls into madness and despair when he "loses" his last son and realised all his efforts were for nothing. He's also a tragic, flawed character.

or read the books?...

Cant compare Boromir to Theoden. Theoden was just a man. Boromir was High Numenorean even though not particularly gifted in the Numenorean way

@@rachelbloul3986 If these gifts didn't materialize, they don't count, do they? And we get both to judge both men by the same standards, I think.

@@sergioaccioly5219 Tolkien was vague about the gifts of Numenor apart from subtlety, wisdom and high vitality. Boromir has the latter but clearly little wisdom, subtlety and even less learning. Probably a throwback to Ar Pharazon. Still it doesn't make him the same as men. And such flaws as he has help understand the fall of Numenor through lack of wisdom

@@rachelbloul3986 I think we're referencing different sources. I'm talking about movies Boromir, you're referencing books Boromir. But since we're here, I think you can help me with a question that's been dogging me since the movies got out two decades ago: Why was it that Boromir used a Rohan shield in the movies, instead of a Gondor one? Is there any explanation in the books for that?

@@sergioaccioly5219 No, no explanation or description in the book that I am aware of. It just mentionned a 'cloven shield' as a result of his fight with the Uruk Hai. Shields break often enough so I imagine that his original Gondorian shield must have broken on the way to Rivendell and he picked up in Rohan the shield he arrived in Rivendell with. Notice that in his funerary boat, the round shield is not even broken. So there might be a slip up in the accessory department

Nop, Samwise The Great is the most heroic chacacter in the trilogy, in reality he IS THE HERO of the trilogy, at least in the books.

@@felipewerner6670 Aye, followed by Boromir!

You say that now, but wait till you read about Turin and his father Hurin. Not even Feanor or his sons could claim as tragic a story as the Narn i Chin Hurin. I really hope that any series set in Middle Earth actually visits this story during the first age. To me it's always been the most touching, the most compelling and the most tragic.

Considering Uruk-Hai are said to be able to take on entire squads of soldiers to kill one, and he took out at least 4, on his own, while mortally wounded. Boromir was a force to be reckoned with

Indeed it does. In many ways Boromir's Sacrifice & Heroism is what greatly shapes and influences Aragorn's reformed view on Gondor and the People of Gondor. Just as Aragorn by his strength and resilience (resisting the ring) gives Boromir hope for the future of Gondor; Boromir's actions (his sacrifice for the Fellowship) gives Aragorn a renewed or newfound faith in the People of Gondor. Life Lessons are given and received on both sides by both men, it's quite poignant and beautiful really.

I agree. Sometimes, it is the heroic move to sacrifice oneself to save those you Love. I suppose that might be the definition of a hero, willing to sacrifice not knowing whether or not you might survive. Aragorn survived and Boromir did not. Maybe, a part of the Heroes Journey is embarking on the Journey, knowing the risk but pursuing Your Quest anyway. There is tremendous courage in that.

Hello Lewis- I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Boromir indeed is very compelling. As are many of the other characters upon re-viewings of the extended versions (Faramir, Theoden, Sam). Some good news too- I've got 2 upcoming video projects, 1 will be on Kingdom of Heaven, the other is going to be a very intricate look at the Lord of the Rings trilogy & themes.

@@VirtueInsightWebPage He is my favorite character in anything ever honestly

@@VirtueInsightWebPage awesome. Sorry youtube didn’t notify me when you replied but im here again to rewatch cos the vid is so great

Boromir had a conscience, and thus, felt guilt at what he was thinking. He certainly was no sociopath, who feels no guilt at their actions. He was filled with love for his people, but the Ring used that love to tempt him into doing something that would ultimately be horrific to not only his people, but all people in Middle-Earth. It wasn't until he failed to take the Ring from Frodo that he realized this. The more compelling stories don't portray the villains as psychopaths, but as frail, faulty humans who often make bad choices out of the desire to do good. Gandalf clearly expresses this multiple times in the book, as does Galadriel and Elrond. They're wise enough to know that--the more power you have, the easier the Ring will corrupt you. "Pride goeth before a fall." This is why hobbits, being so weak and humble, serve as the best ring-bearers. And the humblest hobbit of all was Sam, of course. Faramir is an outlier. Tolkien said in a letter to a fan that he saw himself most in Faramir. He was wise beyond his years, and rejected the Ring out of hand, something his older brother didn't do. Faramir knew enough of the lore of the Ring (probably from Gandalf, who taught him), to know a tool of the Enemy couldn't be trusted in any situation. At least...book Faramir knew this. Movie Faramir was dramatized more for the films.

I have always liked Boromir as well. The banter between Legolas and Gimli is nice to have in films that have so much violence and death. It is important to see both sides of life- the comedy and the tragedy.

Disagreed. 3. Faramir 2. Boromir 1. Sam But also Eomer is pretty high up

Faramir is pretty awesome too. My personal favorite is Faramir actually :)

Side characters you mean? Let's keep it real. 5. Boromir 4. Aragorn 3. Gandalf 2. Sam 1. Frodo

@@shawnn7502 Well Gandalf is a magical deity, so it's kind of unfair to rank him against men, who can't just reincarnate like he can lol Also Aragorn is of much greater strength, resilience, and dexterity biologically speaking. Neither Aragorn or Gandalf are underrated either - since the spotlight and respect is also lavished upon them. Boromihr is the most realistic character - and deserves credit for his long protection of Gondor, aswell as how he sacrifices his life to protect the hobbits. Sam is the most heroic overall, but kind of to an unrealistic extent - because not many people would've kept so positive or would have turned back to help Frodo, after being accused of trying to steal the ring and being sent away. Therefore its gotta be for me: 1. Sam 2. FBoromhir 3. Frodo 4. Gimli

Well Turin, Fingolfin etc are very good too

That sounds like he didn't want to be tempted. Tom Bombadil wasn't tempted, everyone else was.

better delete the joke. its second son psychology, he lacks ambition to eclipse his older brother.

@kim Jong-unsub younger brothers often are smarter as they see the mistakes of their elders growing up. Faramir was a gloomy pragmatist, face it the whole family was screwy. Deneathor was portrayed so excellently in the movie. That actor did a great job.

If were talking about the book boromir never touched narsil either lmao.

@@yomemahe Or the one Ring

I believe he was also one of the youngest members of the Fellowship (apart from The Hobbits), and I do think in some ways that impacted his worldview. Gandalf and the Elves were thousands of years old, they had all fought Sauron before, or at least had direct experience of what he could do. Even Aragorn had a "history" with Sauron, going back to before Isildur. Boromir didn't. To him Isildur and events of the past confllicts were probably little more than legends and stories. He barely seemed to believe the One Ring was even real until Frodo bought it out. The defense of Gondor was all that was real to him. He lived in the here and now and it was the danger to his people he was as the immediate need. Not some potential magic power from the Ring.

As a child the departure of Boromir made me cry, although I had to learn to embrace my own failings (a looooong time) before he became my favourite of the brothers.

As a child boromir was my favourite and still is to this day

The extended version of The Two Towers I'd say. Where he was shown to be a great general, and loving brother. And how he resented being favoured at the expense of Faramir.

@@kurtcobain5466 same here. Heroes who are the embodiment of good are essential to storytelling but since I can remember I've never been into them. I wasn't a smart kid but I knew the world wasn't perfect, most people aren't perfect so the concept of someone being a good, kind hearted, pure and selfless hero seemed too alien for me. Not that people aren't capable of performing acts of heroism and there are genuinely good people out there but yeah heroic characters I find are usually one dimensional. Not knocking Viggo, his performance was great but the emotional ups and downs of Boromir were way more compelling and relatable for me even as a kid. Flawed characters are way more interesting like underdogs who you want to see overcome their problems.

@@Roflcrabs yeah I 100% agree with everything you just said, and seeing boromir at the end dying was extremely traumatic as a kid. And to top it off, the first thing he says is “they took the little ones”, he didn’t care about himself, only about Merry and pippin. He is an amazing character and very touching

Oh yes agreed! One of my top 10, maybe top 5 Fictional characters ever written in book or depicted in a film. I liked his character even as a child, but I really grew to love & appreciate Boromir's complexity in my adulthood. 👍

Important to note that Boromir isnt even wrong for trying to obtain the ring. Only with hindsight can one say the quest to mount doom was a valid idea. Boromir is right to think bringing the ring into mordor simply means the rapid destruction of his country; a country which is already on the ropes

Very well said. I have always personally appreciated the unsung hero or those looked at as not as important as those who take center stage.

Precisely. Very well said. Yes- Boromir values the hearts and lives of his companions, and he understands the importance of taking a moment to grieve for fallen comrades. Boromir does possess natural leadership abilities. And it is extremely difficult for a man of his title and natural leadership to take on a subordinate role. But- such is also the mark of great writing. To place characters outside of their comfort zones, and beyond their natural elements; it provides the most quintessential of all relatable experiences to the audience: The Struggle. All of us at one time or another have been away from home / outside of our comfort zones / out of our natural skillsets / put into positions not suitable for us - Such is The Struggle. Boromir's character & struggles within the film are oddly recognizable & relatable; despite him being a "Rich Nobleman Guy". He is the most vulnerable on the journey, the most... Human.

It does. Every time I read the books, I find a new perspective or some other thing that I missed all these years.

Those people are morons sorry

Whatever flaws he had, he died as a hero and pledged his loyalty to his rightful king, Aragorn.

Yes indeed. Of all the souls encountered in the travels of Middle-Earth... His was the most... ... Human.

If I recall the book correctly there was temptation but yeah in the movie I got more the feeling of concern for master Frodo.

I really like the ambiguity of the scene the way it was shot - either reading works well.

Isn't the thought, that he has to carry it, to end Frodo's suffering a temptation in itself? The Rings konows, what you care about and exploits ist ;)

I think Sam was tempted, but not always for the wrong reasons.

If what I read is correct, the ring is limited in its temptation to Sam, because it can only offer power, something Sam is utterly uninterested in. It tried to tempt him by offering him the power to enslave man and orc alike to tend to mordor and turn it into a great garden, but his lack of desire for ruling over others made him simply refuse it. When offered simply the ability to turn Mordor itself into the greatest of gardens, he refused simply because he couldnt possibly tend to a garden that big.

As I have written in other comments before: Sam is the MVP of the story.

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In life, the most important thing to remember is this: Our free will lies in our response to any given situation. Learning to think critically and think up 20 solutions to any problem will dilute and take most fear out of your life. Hope that helps.

Hahaha- (glad you liked that part there!) For reasons beyond even my own comprehension I decided to add-in some comedic elements to this video to help balance out the rather serious tone of the topic. Glad to know my comedic efforts in this presentation were not in vain ;)

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Yes, Boromir is definitely akin to Tolkien's depiction of a kind of tragic Shakespeare-type tragic hero kind of character. Much like Othello or Hamlet.

Yes, but without Boromir's crisis, the Fellowship wouldn't have broken, the "three hunters" wouldn't have got to Edoras, Aragorn wouldn't have passed the doors of the dead, and Merry and Pippin wouldn't have roused Treebeard. Rather vital for the safety of Rohan and the subsequent Battle of the Pelennor and an important distraction from the quest of Frodo and Sam.

Technically he inspires Frodo Baggins to leave the fellowship and go to Mordor alone which we don't know Faramir would have done. Faramir might have persuaded Frodo to carry the ring back to Minas tirith in borimirs shoes

@@ishmaelforester9825 I mean maybe I am going by the movies, but I thnk Frodo had already made the decision to go off on his own before Boromir tried to take the Ring. He made it when Galadriel told him the Ring would eventually corrupt everyone in the Fellowship, what Boromir did just hastened his descision. Its very unlikely that 9 people would have gone unnoticed when passing into Mordor. In the end, they would probably have still needed to distract Sauron in some way to lure the Orcs out of Mordor.

I'm so glad you enjoyed my Boromir Video!! :D. Yes indeed, Boromir is deeply complex, very flawed, very human. Many of the supporting characters in the LOTR films are worth a closer look. Frodo quite literally carries the story; but many of the supporting characters give the films depth and range. Especially characters like Bilbo, Sam, Faramir, Eowyn. And of course Boromor the Underrated ;)

The Jackson Films take several liberties with characters, but I think much of the essence is still there. Even with the significant alterations to Characters like Faramir & Denethor you still get a decent feel for both. Faramir is a decent, intelligent, and sincere man who has been placed in a terrible predicament of leading the soldiers of Gondor against the overwhelming forces of Mordor (while also trying to do right by his Father). Ultimately Faramir does not give in to temptation and he helps Frodo. Denethor being the Leader of Gondor is indeed in an extremely difficult situation facing against Mordor. The films may somewhat paint him 1-dimensionally, but when we see him in RTOK we do sympathize for his grief at the loss of his son. You get the sense he is being outplayed by Mordor but he is trying to convince everyone that he is totally in control and knows what he's doing. It's only with his Faramir Blunder that he completely loses his composure.

Samwise, Gandalf, Aragorn, Smeagal and many more.. it's a great book and story

Fellowship is my favorite of the 3 films too. Boromir is one of my favorites but I think Faramir is probably has become my most favorite character over time. Faramir is very nuanced and layered. And his struggle is so immense and yet somehow relatable (especially the stuff with his father and whatnot).

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Glad you are a Tolkien fan. I also like the Narnia books and the relationship over the years between Lewis and Tolkien is pretty fascinating. They took some significantly interesting turns in their friendship and religious beliefs. Now, that connection would make an interesting film.

Not in the books. Aragorn is too old and wise to doubt his role or be influenced by Borimir or anybody apart from Elrond, Galadriel and Gandalf, even if he loves and respects him

Hello David, Thanks for subscribing! I'm this video has been so well received, I appreciate your response, and am happy this video was able to have such an impact. Good comparison with Ned Stark & Boromir. Ned definitely is the star of GOT Season 1, but I think Boromir is the secret star of Fellowship, he steals the show, and his Death in many ways is kind of the climax of the first film. Or definitely at least a very climatic moment. There was a really good video essay on Boromir that came out a few months after mine by the Aleczanxr channel, but it just goes to show that even after all these years later Boromir is still one of the most talked about characters and aspects about the entire LOTR Trilogy. In many ways Boromir captures many of the spiritual aspects of Humanity that Tolkien was displaying through his books; "Corruptible, yet Heroic" (Quoting Aleczandxr).

Video Insights thank you for your response to my comment! I completely agree and am now gonna check out this guy’s video on your recommendation. I hope it’s as good as yours.

I am keeping it going (I've got ideas and outlines for further video essays on LOTR Films). Just recently I released a video depicting the Stoicism on display within the 1967 classic Cool Hand Luke. :)