My Turbosound was an older model that did not have Reverb. I think they added that in the Version 2 (for the IP1000). I think the Turbosound is a very good system and it covers the entire frequency range. But I find it harsher and more challenging when I am standing right in front or next to the Turbosound versus the Bose. The Bose works a lot better for me up close. Because of the shows I play, sometimes I have no choice regarding placement. Thank you for the compliments on my guitar playing. Much appreciated.

@@gair1944 you're essentially comparing an older model Turbosound to a newer model Bose. Perhaps comparing the version 2 Turbosound would be a better comparison? Nonetheless you did a great job with that phenomenal playing of yours! Keep it up buddy!

@@madness8556 You are correct that I did not have the Turbosound IP1000 Version 2 that includes reverb. But otherwise the tower, sub and overall voice is identical. They just added reverb if I recall. So I think this comparison was still relatively close. Ultimately, I sold my Turbosound IP1000 shortly after making this video and I bought a second Bose L1 Pro 8 so I can now use a pair. They are phenomenal. Much much easier to carry and lighter than the Turbosound in my experience. The Turbosound is (or was) significantly less expensive so that gives a nod to the IP1000. But I also found the Turbosound was harsher sounding to my ears when I was too close. But I have have the Bose right next to me or behind me and it sounds great. I like hearing the mix the audience is getting. For me, The Bose is the superior tool for what I want.

Thank you for the very kind words! Made my day!

De Nada. You are very welcome.

Thank you! I gig often and it’s always great for my needs

Hi Bill, I major in music on bass in college and am more of a trained bass player than guitarist. I don't play upright anymore but I play 5 string electric in my band and duo. When my duo gigs, I play my Sadowsky and Nordstrand basses direct into the Bose L1 Pro 8. I am amazed how good it works. Please let me know if your try your upright bass through an L1 Pro 8. I won't be the least bit surprised if it doesn't sound great! and the App is so much easier to use to change settings.

Understood. What the videos don’t tell you is standing right in front or next to the turbosounds can be harsh and feedback prone. The speakers in the turbo sound tower address different frequencies where the tower speakers in the Bose are all the same. The Bose sounds more even and I am confident I am hearing the same mix the audience hears. The Bose are infinitely easier to carry. As often as I gig that’s a huge deal. And the abose tonematch settings are very well Voiced and useful. Simply put there is a lot more value in all the Bose offers (for ME). Your mileage may vary. That’s ok too

@@gair1944 Thanks so much for the reply and information. I will certainly check the Bose out as I use my Turbosound's for Karaoke and when I have 4 mics on stage sometimes do struggle with feed back, especially if I'm pushing the volume. Also, I've noticed that the Turbosounds sound very bassy if standing behind them. Which is where I normally am sited. Probably because Im behind the 180 degree dispersion from the arrays, where all the treble and mid is. Might try putting them behind and see what happens ......Thanks again.

Thank You Peter. Your observations are well taken. The Bose for me is simply Plug & Play, and there is great flexibility to further shape the tone with the APP or onboard the Bose Sub model where the tone controls reside. I sold the Turbosound after doing these demo's. The Bose is more user friendly and always works well. My duo partner and band mate bought one also and now we use a pair for our Duo shows and smaller band shows.

My band uses a pair of Bose L1 Pro 8's and we mic the kick drum everytime. It is very impressive.

If you want to get guttural and a bit loud … the turbosound will fill the space a bit better. It looks like there is a big mid scoop on the TS app, which will effect the presentation. Smiley face eq curve isn’t good

I sold the Turbosound after this demo. I have been having great success with the Bose L1 Pro 8. Absolutely love it.

Thanks Preston. I am not aware of a Bose sanctioned answer to that question. But I wonder if you could use the line output and send that to an external powered sub? If the sub has a crossover it seems like it would work. ??

Both would be fine. I prefer the Bose

Thanks for your advice I will buy Bose greetings from El Salvador

The Bose subwoofer is more capable in my opinion. And it’s easier to carry.

Thank you so much my friend. The Turbosound IP1000 I had was the earlier version before they added reverb to the Version 2.

I sold the Turbosound since making this video. I prefer the Bose significantly. In my duo I plug my 5 String Bass directly into one channel of the Bose and it is exceptional as well. Better and not musical than the Turbosound. My band mate bought a Bose L1 Pro 8 as well. We use the pair for our Band and often for our duo. Amazing sound and no feedback.

@@gair1944 I’m still waffling on the pro 8 I have compact now and wondering if the pro 8 really gives me much more since in my duo I’ll still have to run a separate mixer I’ve been checking out the evolve 30m which has a 6 channel mixer with effects built in

@@slakethesnake We all need to choose the tool that is best for our needs. In my duo, we started using the Bose T4S Tonematch. I can't explain it other than system synergy but it always sounds amazing. Uses the Cat 5 tone match cables to the Bose L1 Pro so it doesn't need another power cord. Sounds amazing. Our other mixer was a QSC Touchmix 8 which is arguably a great mixer, but a lot bigger and more than we needed.

@@gair1944 yes I know the tone match gives more channels but it’s another $700 on top of the $1200 for the pro 8

@@gair1944 question Do you still have access to the inputs on the Bose unit itself when you are using the tonematch?

I prefer the Bose and sold the turbosound after I made this comparison demo.

Thank you

My duo partner has a jbl EON one Pro. It lacks the headroom that the Bose offers and the Bose App is infinitely helpful and user friendly. Did you get the Bose L1 Pro8?

Interesting. I’ll have to check for that

That was the original version before reverb was available

Shain how are you enjoying the ip1000? There is no one around me that carries new or used ip1000 so I have no way to hear one live. I thought it sounded great in the videos.

I tend to agree David. The L1 Pro8 may be borderline for DJ's in terms of output and power but sounds great for small ensemble, vocals. acoustic instruments etc. I used a pair of L1 Pro8's at a wedding recently with my acoustic duo. I play my 5 string bass straight into one of the channels. It handles the Low B string with authority but there is a limit. We never exceeded that personally. It works great at our reasonable volume level. When we DJ'd music on our breaks the pair sounded really good. But some DJ's will want more thump. They would be better served with the L1 Pro 16 that has a lot more power and more array speakers.

PS: Is this MartinGitDave from the AGF forum?

@@gair1944 ;-)

With the turbo sound I am using a tc helicon harmony singer pedal with reverb. Or a mixer. The newer turbo sound has reverb I think?

Gary you are correct, my newer turbo sound ip1000 has reverb built-in.

Why compare? Because it's what I owned, so I compared. (And I sold the Turbosound shortly after this demo) The Bose is WAY more user friendly. The new Bose has many Tonematch settings built in. I don't feel the need for the mixer at all. So the tantamount difference for my needs and several singer/guitarists is the Bose L1 Pro 8 stands on its own quite well for many.

No hissing. The wobble concerns are not an issue for me. Just make sure the top speaker and the taller speaker extension is well seated. No issues. I bought a second L1 Pro8 and love them

@@gair1944 thanks for your reply. That is what I will get tomorrow then. I also am not worried about the wobble since it will be on stage behind me anyways.

I only have one Bose S1 pro but it quickly reaches its useable volume limit. I would take the Bose L1 Pro8 any time. The Bose L1 Pro 8 dispersion is so much better and I’d rather carry the L1 Pro 8 than a pair of S1 Pro’s and Stands

Thank you. I Hope it was useful

Jim, I really don't know about the Bluetooth Aux on the Turbosound,. I might have used it once for playing break music, but its been a really long time. I recently decided to sell my Turbosound because the Bose is more versatile and way easier to carry.

@@gair1944 Thanks Gary. I'll give it a go and if they don't pair properly I'll just run them like mains off my mixer.

Gary, I ended up with a pair of the Bose L1Pro8s and the 8 channel Bose mixer. Best gear choice in years

Thanks Joe. This is the FULL Anthem. I have this PU in two other guitars and have had it in three others. (Collings and Gibson J45) Single best Plug n play PU that is more feedback resistant than any others and so musical.

Sounds great I really want a guitar that sounds like this tone full and rich

@@joe_casinoacoustic1773 This Ambertone is NOT the HDC-28E you commented on (from another KZfaq video I made) I sent that Ambertone HDC-28E back and got a Natural HDC-28E like Aaron Shorts guitar. I already had this AMAZING DC-18E and I actually prefer the DC-18E. But my HDC-28E is stunning too. Since they don't make them as a current model, I am really glad to have both the HDC-28E and the DC-18E (Both with Factory installed Baggs Anthem PU's) Martin did a very short run of this model, and with the Baggs Anthem. I tried the model with the Fishman Aura VT enhance and I profoundly prefer the Baggs Anthem. They sound great through the Bose!

@@gair1944 so the guitar in this video is the d18

I’m a singer guitarist which one would suit me better the hdc28 or the dc18

Mine never overheated or had any issues. I have some sold it in favor of the current Bose L1 Pro 8.

@@gair1944 but it got hot, right?

@@BrunoKrnetic I dont honestly remember. I sold it a couple of years ago.

@@gair1944 Thanks for the response anyway. Your video was one of the go to videos when deciding for the PA. Cheers!

I agree. I sold the TurboSound shortly after making this comparison.

The L1 Pro8 is vastly larger, more powerful, versatile and out performs the S1 Pro for volume, projection and flexibility in larger situations

The turbosound has a highly credible. It is a Lot heavier physically and was more prone to feedback up close. But you can’t argue with the value and quality for the money.

@@gair1944 Thanks for this! Been gigging with the IP1000 for a couple years and just ordered the Pro 8. Do you find the overall volumes to be comparable? I was a bit on the fence about overall volume but saw the SPL is similar (118 v 122). I think you said that you played a pretty good size outdoor gig and the pro8 was plenty loud?

@@scottheath4833 Hi Scott, I absolutely find the Bose L1 Pro8 as versatile as the Turbosound IP1000. Spec's might not portray the dispersion and quality of sound over a distance. I found the Bose to be more 'even' up close and farther away.

Muck appreciated! Pro8 should arrive before the weekend gigs so I am psyched to try it out.

Thanks for watching.