The Biggest Scandal in Chess History: The Full Story

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The BIGGEST Chess Cheating Scandal Ever? From the current world chess champion Magnus Carlsen resigning in protest and incredulous "beads" conspiracies to the 100 Million Dollar lawsuits against the largest chess companies in the world - Andrea Botez will cover the whole story from start to finish in this video.
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00:00 The Chess Cheating Scandal
01:26 Hans Niemann vs Magnus Carlsen
03:13 Sinquefield Cup
05:53 Cheating Accusations
07:56 Hans' Online Cheating
09:30 Magnus Resigns
10:12 Magnus' Statement
11:15 $100 Million Defamation Lawsuit

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@GothamChess
@GothamChess Жыл бұрын
The craziest chess story is actually you avoiding a chessboxing match against me
@pazecs
@pazecs Жыл бұрын
haha lol
@Tejoz
@Tejoz Жыл бұрын
😂
@robertfisher9588
@robertfisher9588 Жыл бұрын
Alas, bad backs speak for themselves too.
@loganharrie8220
@loganharrie8220 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@daanreehoorn3403
@daanreehoorn3403 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha fr
@ToddHughlett
@ToddHughlett Жыл бұрын
“No one has got away with (cheating) at a high level”. BUT if they had got away with it, you wouldn’t know, would you….? 🤔
@thecurliest_fry
@thecurliest_fry Жыл бұрын
Lol, I scrolled down right after I heard that line.
@rasicule
@rasicule Жыл бұрын
@@thecurliest_fry haha same
@johannezz93
@johannezz93 Жыл бұрын
DUN DUN DUUUN
@vlrginizer927
@vlrginizer927 Жыл бұрын
I think its a joke but when you win a tournament and confess years later you technically got away with cheating
@RB0087
@RB0087 Жыл бұрын
(the opponents of) Borislav Ivanov would beg to differ... I guess he didn't completely get away with it since he got a ban for a while, but no one uncovered hard proof of how he did it. Officials just saw an FM suddenly playing 100% perfect games every game. Then he moved on from chess and ran an ID counterfeiting ring before going to prison. What a guy.
@manakin5
@manakin5 Жыл бұрын
I just started hearing about this whole thing (I'm not really a chess player, but just someone who likes the game and watches educational videos now and then). I'm so glad to have come across this video, I was only getting bits and pieces of the story here and there beforehand. Thank you, very well done! With some nice comedic touches :)
@JasperKloek
@JasperKloek Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@projectmo1352
@projectmo1352 11 ай бұрын
Did Hans cheat? - yes Do we have a proof - no
@earthling_parth
@earthling_parth Ай бұрын
Who would want to touch that _proof_ though 😂
@jhudson_tiedye
@jhudson_tiedye Ай бұрын
he actually admitted it, and was caught on multiple occasions
@screamityeah
@screamityeah Ай бұрын
If there is no proof then how do you know he cheated in real tournaments?
@screamityeah
@screamityeah Ай бұрын
​@@jhudson_tiedyeOnline not in real life tournaments
@projectmo1352
@projectmo1352 Ай бұрын
@@screamityeah he doesn't have a proper explaination of doing the best engine move
@King6d9
@King6d9 Жыл бұрын
Bobby Fischer’s peak rating is 2895 - he never got a 100% accurate game. Garry Kasparov’s peak rating is 2856 - he never got a 100% accurate game. Hans Niemann’s peak rating is 2688 - and he has had 10 games with 100% accuracy. One of those games was 42 consecutive perfect moves, and it was not a blowout type of game either. Doing that is pretty much impossible. Hans is 19 years old with 10 perfect games already, Magnus (peak rating 2882) is 31 and has had only 2 perfect games in his whole career. People that don’t think this is at least credible evidence are incredibly naive.
@saiyansfizz
@saiyansfizz Жыл бұрын
@Chando No one is talking about comparisons for the court though. This is a social issue. We treat social justice different than court justice. Evidence is treated differently in social situations. I think you know this. For example, Say you have a friend / girlfriend that frequents your house. Whenever they come over, you notice that things are suddenly missing. One day it's a phone charger, another day it's some money you left out on your desk in your room. You confront them about it and ask them, they deny it. They say I did not steal and you have no 'evidence' to believe I did do it. In this world (the world you're laying out in your comment) you have no moral justification in taking action in protecting your belongings from this person. Would you just say 'oh I guess so, you're right I don't have any evidence..' and move on? Would you go and buy cameras and put them all around your house so you can get evidence? Would you continue to allow them to steal your stuff? What happens when cameras can't solve this dilemma? What I would say to someone in such a situation is I don't need HARD evidence to confront you about it, and stop allowing you into my house. The circumstances surrounding my stuff going missing and you coming over happens way too often. Without a shadow of a doubt? This means zero in social situations. We take probability over 'without a shadow of a doubt'. Of course there's a chance the stuff was not stolen by the friend/girlfriend. But that's kind of irrelevant. I hope you're following this example, my point is the circumstances surrounding Hans is way too much of a 'coincidence' (having a cheater be his mentor, the accuracy of the games, PLUS the opinions of the GMs who closely observe the situation) to just be brushed off by someone like you as 'without a shadow of a doubt'. In social issues, we can take action even if its not 100%.
@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx
@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx Жыл бұрын
@@saiyansfizz it's not a social issue, it's in the courts now.
@saiyansfizz
@saiyansfizz Жыл бұрын
@@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx It is a social issue. The 'court' issue that rose from it is irrelevant to what I was talking about. Just because something ends up in the court doesn't mean its not a social issue. Hans is taking Magnus to court for defamation ... not the other way around. Magnus is not taking Hans to court for cheating. My comment was talking about the validity of the view that Hans is a cheater That would be like the friend taking you to court over saying to other people that they're a thief... ( see my example ) ... it is a social issue still
@saiyansfizz
@saiyansfizz Жыл бұрын
@Chando Ok well I'm glad you admitted that you don't care about it. Us in the chess community do, as it's affecting the integrity of the game & sport in general. If you have been a part of chess for a long time (as I have) then you would care. So if you don't care, please just take a step back and don't just say things without any backing. If someone were to be cheating in baseball, basketball or any other spectator sport does this matter? Well it does for the people who invest the time and effort to follow these things. Social issue disingenuous? Not really. The original comment that you replied to was talking about 'credible evidence' in the terms of whether or not YOU should consider Hans a cheater. Nothing about 'the courts'. You were the one who brought up the courts (which is irrelevant because we're talking about a social issue) Even if we were talking about the court case, Hans is taking MAGNUS to court for DEFAMATION. not the other way around. I could understand if Magnus was taking Hans to court and then you label it a court issue. But it's not that way.
@sleuth2077
@sleuth2077 Жыл бұрын
@@chando1603 it's circumstantial evidence and people have most definitely been convicted by juries on circumstantial evidence alone. Where there's smoke there's fire is a popular saying for a reason.
@garretthorner
@garretthorner Жыл бұрын
Andrea sarcastically sipping the tea is comedy gold 😂
@toriless
@toriless Жыл бұрын
I imply NOTHING, I was just thirsty.
@quill444
@quill444 Жыл бұрын
We desperately need a _Chess Tea and Analysis Moment with Andrea Botez_ . . . your weekly bedtime story show -- make it happen! ☕ 🍩 💚 - j q t -
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 Жыл бұрын
Andrea is always comedy gold. Even without her sister. She's such a ham.
@ElEcodelTren
@ElEcodelTren Жыл бұрын
yes
@DoobieFerguson
@DoobieFerguson Жыл бұрын
@@quill444 Did you sign a KZfaq comment? wtf
@petea6904
@petea6904 Жыл бұрын
Start doing mini expose type pieces like this outside of chess, grow your brand...you tell a story very well, I would tune in for other stories but do it just like this
@andrewdinns1746
@andrewdinns1746 Жыл бұрын
4:34 the fake accent cracks me up everytime.
@aca2077
@aca2077 6 күн бұрын
No accent
@onemorejoe1
@onemorejoe1 Жыл бұрын
This was so funny. “This was not the only thing Hikaru said”. Had me laughing quite hard, this whole satirical telling haha. Two thumbs up
@toriless
@toriless Жыл бұрын
Hikaru is not lacking for words on anything,
@oosmanbeekawoo
@oosmanbeekawoo Жыл бұрын
(You have to give _three_ thumbs up!)
@swyxTV
@swyxTV Жыл бұрын
*sips tea*
@RabbitConfirmed
@RabbitConfirmed Жыл бұрын
@@toriless he happens to be a streamer that plays chess at this point💀
@grandpatzer
@grandpatzer Жыл бұрын
Good job Andrea for showcasing this story in such a way that won't get you sued!
@michaelwalmsley7668
@michaelwalmsley7668 Жыл бұрын
Or at least not for more than a million or two.
@jasonknight9679
@jasonknight9679 Жыл бұрын
She could say anything she wants about Niemann and she wouldn't get sued. He is going after people and institutions that actually have some money.
@George_Jacob
@George_Jacob Жыл бұрын
You use "THEY SAID" or "ITS IS RUMORED" and nobody can sue you.
@yousuck6222
@yousuck6222 Жыл бұрын
Tthe good thing about being poor is no-one can sue you for anything.
@JonCookeBridge
@JonCookeBridge Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, AB. Thanks.
@kev_mclernon_family_channe4745
@kev_mclernon_family_channe4745 Жыл бұрын
You often like to be silly in videos, but I think this presentation indicates that you have on-screen talents that can lead where you seek success, whether as a chess commentator or broadcast news. Cool stuff, I've followed this since the beginning since I followed the tournaments - but I was looking for a video I could share with my non-chess-playing friends, and you are the one, Thank you so much!! kev
@user-hi9jy5wy1m
@user-hi9jy5wy1m 3 ай бұрын
Dude, she's never going to sleep with you. Stop embarrassing yourself.
@vinayaktripathi8307
@vinayaktripathi8307 2 ай бұрын
just shut up dude. she is not going to read this bs
@H0LYSM0KES
@H0LYSM0KES Жыл бұрын
2:01 dude thinks he's a main character in an anime 🤣
@rickygrenadier6303
@rickygrenadier6303 Жыл бұрын
This is truly one of the chess stories in the history of chess.
@felixal
@felixal Жыл бұрын
thhis is a test DId they block me 1 2 3 test
@fredouz
@fredouz Жыл бұрын
@@felixal no
@Zobokolobozo
@Zobokolobozo 9 ай бұрын
Idk Hans really is 2 suspicious of a character to be believed tbh. The fact that you speak 1 language ur entire life and then for no reason you turn into a 2 year into speaking english russian accent is way 2 crazy. That alone makes me think he is guilty.
@obscurity3027
@obscurity3027 Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic breakdown of exactly what happened step-by-step. A lot of news outlets don’t quite understand all the nuance of the story like you do because you’re in the chess community, you personally know these guys, and you understand the details. Really well done, Andrea!
@electricpaisy6045
@electricpaisy6045 Жыл бұрын
I still missed the part about the plug though
@peterjames232
@peterjames232 Жыл бұрын
Hans played chess with Andrea and tried a date after the game.
@spartanAXA
@spartanAXA Жыл бұрын
News outlets don't know about chess as much as Andrea
@jacobmarroquin9522
@jacobmarroquin9522 Жыл бұрын
What details!! besides a step a step… how is Hans cheating??!?!? Where’s anyone’s evidence?? all she did was telling these people are in twitter war!
@mrkiky
@mrkiky Жыл бұрын
Yes she was personally hit on by Hans Nieman, quite awkwardly I might add. Also, I dunno what's been happening to Hans, but he looks like he aged 20 years in the last 2 years. He's younger than Andrea but she looks like she could be his daughter 😂
@loganb452
@loganb452 Жыл бұрын
This was very professionally created and presented, better than most newscasters! I hope we see more of these short 'reporting the important news from chess' in the future!
@ubberJakerz
@ubberJakerz Жыл бұрын
This was incredibly well shot, edited, and delivered. Please give us more content like this! The end was hilarious 🤣
@speederbrad95
@speederbrad95 Жыл бұрын
Andrea should host a chess news show.
@jaybestnz
@jaybestnz Жыл бұрын
Alex and Andrea should.
@gundarsmiks4889
@gundarsmiks4889 Жыл бұрын
Chess mews! Yes!
@Keatsounet
@Keatsounet Жыл бұрын
Not enough news in chess ^^
@johningle1
@johningle1 Жыл бұрын
In lingerie.
@erohtarrath7549
@erohtarrath7549 Жыл бұрын
@@johningle1 if you want to wear lingerie you can bro, embrace it
@MrRyanxdavey
@MrRyanxdavey Жыл бұрын
Andrea is so much better like this than her hyper crazy antics. This is a fantastic format for her.
@peterjames232
@peterjames232 Жыл бұрын
It's funny, we know she is loud, and suddenly she surprise us with this format, I like it.
@codevii9063
@codevii9063 Жыл бұрын
I kind of like her hyper crazy antics, but yes, this was great too.
@noone-gf5op
@noone-gf5op Жыл бұрын
why not both? I think people naturally have more than one constant way of being. depending on mood, who we're with, what we do... I really liked this video and her concise story telling because it fits. I also think her hyper loud self is fun and fitting in more casual videos. if anything I find Botez content to be top tier because these two really know how to exist in both plains and do it right. so many influencers try to keep up a branded personality, but real people have a spectrum
@marshallmitha6678
@marshallmitha6678 15 күн бұрын
still sexy
@amcds2867
@amcds2867 Жыл бұрын
it makes sense he would take this to court seeing that apparently there is no concrete evidence to justify the decision to ban him and he's taking advantage of that, though i suspect foul play. i hope the truth comes out, whatever it is.
@jovannysanchez
@jovannysanchez Жыл бұрын
I need to watch the next stream immedialy. Andrea being this calm for a whole 12 minutes is.... Please stream soon lmao XD
@satyakibiswas5315
@satyakibiswas5315 Жыл бұрын
Andrea rejected Hans Hans - enters into villan arc
@alanramos5322
@alanramos5322 Жыл бұрын
Did she, tho
@Fauxkuhila
@Fauxkuhila Жыл бұрын
This was great. You should do more breakdowns like this. Current chess drama, historical chess drama...it would be great.
@fyru_zero6344
@fyru_zero6344 Жыл бұрын
bro i dont understand, how do you use a cheat engine in a boardgame(irl), like how does it works? vibrating when sees a good move? i dont understand pls tell me
@vaishnavsuresh7043
@vaishnavsuresh7043 3 ай бұрын
Apparently vibrates in morse code
@ThatguyJoshman
@ThatguyJoshman 5 ай бұрын
Needed this summary... Great job!
@luciabotez3251
@luciabotez3251 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done Andrea! Informing, funny and good pace!
@douglasnelson4117
@douglasnelson4117 Жыл бұрын
Pace. Keep the FACE
@Karadjanov
@Karadjanov Жыл бұрын
She's half right. Cheating is difficult to prove. But the security measures are so behind that we don't even know how easy it may be to cheat on most tournaments.
@case6189
@case6189 Жыл бұрын
That and a lot of these tournaments have serious prize money. Imagine being able to guarantee yourself a top 3 spot a few tournaments throughout the year, could be a couple hundred thousand $. Everything about Hans is a red flag he’s definitely cheated OTB and recently. Imo if you take the time to get creative and find a way to do it I don’t even think it’d be that difficult. Way too much technology for me to think it isn’t 100% possible in probably dozens of ways
@Karadjanov
@Karadjanov Жыл бұрын
@@case6189 That is absolutely correct! And what many people have pointed out is that these people (Hans in particular) are already very good at chess they do not need to cheat at every move. All it takes is 1 moment of outside help at the right time and he can win a game against a better player. The security measures need to be drastically updated and improved. I also hope that Hans burns his money and reputation in these lawsuits that he started. He had the chance to quit chess while it was still unclear and many people defended him and use the created controversy to his advantage and make a lot of money and have a good life but he is an egoistical and greedy sob and he deserves the worst
@molikeur
@molikeur Жыл бұрын
​@@case6189 But a part from the beads that would imply him making noise in a quiet room and learning some sort of morse code for the 64 squares and the pieces, what else is p r o b a b l e ?
@case6189
@case6189 Жыл бұрын
@@molikeur why don’t you explain why a long time cheater and liar deserves the benefit of the doubt over the world champion
@case6189
@case6189 Жыл бұрын
@@molikeur like I said there’s probably dozens of ways to cheat if you really wanted to. We can start with banning known cheaters and then decide how to run future tournaments. Doubt either will happen anytime soon
@lokolb
@lokolb Жыл бұрын
Andrea should do an in depth investigative video showing if and how those beads could work
@mlukman7036
@mlukman7036 Жыл бұрын
how it can be marked as "cheating scandal" if we are not even able to prove it 🤨
@DreamerHCF
@DreamerHCF Жыл бұрын
I mean he did cheat only therefore the title is not wrong
@HYPERC666
@HYPERC666 Жыл бұрын
I just started learning chess a week ago from seeing your Lex interview. I'm getting annhilated every single go. But i'm addicted and i love it.
@FFadeaway
@FFadeaway Жыл бұрын
Keep trucking on, it gets better.
@HYPERC666
@HYPERC666 Жыл бұрын
@@FFadeaway reminds me of when i started jiu jitsu. Being wrapped up like a sandwhich, not knowing what is happening
@anderslarsen4412
@anderslarsen4412 Жыл бұрын
Don't give up! Chess is amazing! Think about it like this: You're not playing to win against the opponent, as much as you're playing to improve your game. The best players in the world still lose almost 50% of their games! (because they play opponents who have same skill). Everyone loses a lot in the beginning. But only some choose to fight and learn until they become good players!
@SixPathz
@SixPathz Жыл бұрын
Hans going out on a date with Andrea speaks for itself.
@LeqsoMaisuradze
@LeqsoMaisuradze Жыл бұрын
ahhaha
@pradiptosensarma1672
@pradiptosensarma1672 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@31acruz
@31acruz Жыл бұрын
Andrea, you did a great job covering this. You are a natural broadcaster, that was professional quality that people twice your age can't pull off sometimes, well done! great job!
@john-carlosynostroza
@john-carlosynostroza 8 ай бұрын
I'm a full-time professional magician/Illusionist, mind reader. I am also chess player. Cheating in a high-security tournament would be easy for me and my friends at the top of the magic business. Just sayin... the chess groups should hire us to watch over live tournaments. They are definitely missing potential technologies for passing data. In fact, wow there are numerous methods to use technology there are also brick-and-mortar methods combined with technology that are almost invisible to just about everybody other than absolute experts in the magic industry. ( I'm totally serious. So if somebody to reach out to discuss this further would be glad to)
@luisandraschnik3001
@luisandraschnik3001 3 ай бұрын
Yes!! I was an amateur magician year ago . Paranormal claims and cheats vanishing when a competent magician is present. I love the story of James Randy's Alpha Project.
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all Ай бұрын
make a video doing so, record before you do it, record during the tournament and afterwards give your remarks, learn how to edit videos or get someone to edit them really well for you, then post on many chess boards and watch your video go viral. In no time you'll be getting phone calls to work for the big tournaments..
@uns33n
@uns33n Ай бұрын
@@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all I don't think a member of the public would have the access required to find and document the potential methods.
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all Ай бұрын
@@uns33n wtf does that even mean a member of the public? make enough money to buy a camera and a computer to edit the video, search up chess tournaments, cheat, don't accept the money if its a cash tournament, then edit it and upload it, not that hard
@Erebus369
@Erebus369 Жыл бұрын
His rapid rise in ranking makes me question his abilities and how it came to be. I'm not a chess player but it piqued my interest in playing.
@teemupulkkinen5382
@teemupulkkinen5382 Жыл бұрын
Andrea is the chess journalist that we don’t deserve but the one we need. :) The ending of the video was excellent!
@sanchi1337
@sanchi1337 Жыл бұрын
yeah with informations other youtubers already brought out 2 weeks ago lmao
@Bear8Photo
@Bear8Photo Жыл бұрын
@@sanchi1337 ya dam drama frog! 🐸
@sanchi1337
@sanchi1337 Жыл бұрын
@@Bear8Photo im just beeing honest and realistic
@mariogk90
@mariogk90 Жыл бұрын
Simp
@ThaiOdessy
@ThaiOdessy Жыл бұрын
@@sanchi1337 To those who don't play chess, this was an interesting and entertaining news presentation (plus it made you smile at the end).
@felixchien1664
@felixchien1664 Жыл бұрын
Someone did an experiment with a chip being in a shoe. It was actually confirmed that a chip in a shoe can be undetected by metal detectors. Makes sense why airports require you to take off your shoes.
@DonCron
@DonCron Жыл бұрын
hm a good wrap up about the situation in a pretty short time. Well done!
@mikezaloznyy5613
@mikezaloznyy5613 Жыл бұрын
I am very impressed by how objective, concise and informative this video is. Great job!!!
@mlinxl9090
@mlinxl9090 Жыл бұрын
@teflontelefon yes that is objective it would seem
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Жыл бұрын
Andrea is always funny but she's well spoken as well.
@MrJungle123
@MrJungle123 Жыл бұрын
Dude, she's averagely spoken.
@bolts3catch
@bolts3catch Жыл бұрын
Yeah, kinda wish I was listening to Alex tbh
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Жыл бұрын
You clowns can always go to other channels. Nobody here will miss you. Looks like many people agree with my statement. Yours, not so much.
@buymore6288
@buymore6288 Жыл бұрын
Andrea speaks for itself
@TheCodeGuy12
@TheCodeGuy12 Жыл бұрын
But she can't pronounce "defamation" correctly. SMH
@treborheminway3814
@treborheminway3814 Жыл бұрын
Unsurprisingly, you have a cunning way of mixing in some humor to this very serious story. Thanks for the summary and I hope you do updates.
@KeithCarunida
@KeithCarunida Жыл бұрын
What's up with the faux camera-shake in the punch-ins?
@Sam_on_YouTube
@Sam_on_YouTube Жыл бұрын
When people say Hans says he hasn't cheated since he was 16, they should provide the context that he's still only 19. It's not like it was ages ago.
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Жыл бұрын
Ages 16, 17, 18, and now 19. It _was_ ages ago :D
@OIP_1
@OIP_1 Жыл бұрын
i feel like i've read and seen *way* too much about this story already but i still watched this, great storytelling andrea
@lancecosmo8039
@lancecosmo8039 Жыл бұрын
The craziest chess story is him beating you and you ghosting him for the date
@musicvideoadmin6960
@musicvideoadmin6960 Жыл бұрын
I love how Andrea just pauses after a sentence and takes a sip of tea.
@currywhiskers
@currywhiskers Жыл бұрын
The most professionalism I've seen from Andrea. Jokes aside, this was a great summary.
@nathanbaker7603
@nathanbaker7603 Жыл бұрын
What joke lol
@dxnce7593
@dxnce7593 Жыл бұрын
I like How Andrea stayed unbiased here even tho she know Hans for ages & his friend! And She know Magnus too but still stayed unbiased
@adilshekh8879
@adilshekh8879 Жыл бұрын
11:24 "My lawsuit speaks for itself". 😂 what a legend
@mattlambert3118
@mattlambert3118 Жыл бұрын
How would you know if no one has gotten away with cheating at the top level? If they got away with it, you wouldn't know they cheated.
@AR-mu2rz
@AR-mu2rz Жыл бұрын
$100 million dollar lawsuit...A Million for Each Time he was caught Cheating LOL
@spectator5144
@spectator5144 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@lucinema
@lucinema Жыл бұрын
Do more things like this, Andrea, I would never in a million years have thought you would be good at something like this as you for some reason like to have your inside voice set to 100. But a calm and collected Andrea, Absolutely Fantastic
@betadecay6503
@betadecay6503 7 ай бұрын
Why do so many people like you feel the need to insult her while pretending to compliment her? She is who she is, she's not gonna change just because some loser on KZfaq gave her a backhanded compliment. "I would never in a million years have thought you would be good at something like this..." Seriously? Why are you like this?
@lucinema
@lucinema 7 ай бұрын
@@betadecay6503 ahhh I don't believe I was giving her a backhanded compliment, do you even watch the Botez sisters? Andrea has always been a very hyper active and loud individual and we love her for that and this was a new style of content that she released that was a delightful surprise as we had not seen her in this light. Me asking for more content like this was out of appreciation of how amazing of a job she did in this video. Sorry if my words came across negative that was not my intention :P
@betadecay6503
@betadecay6503 7 ай бұрын
@@lucinema Fair enough if it wasn't your intention but I don't see how this is not a backhanded compliment. You literally told her you didn't think she was capable of being serious. I'd argue that if you didn't know Andrea was capable of this then you do not watch her enough. She's good at everything she puts her mind to...except protecting her queen.
@DanielBoonelight
@DanielBoonelight 3 ай бұрын
@@lucinema good gracious the world is so full of males voicing that females are *too much* and should be *less than* what they most naturally are. props to andrea for not making herself smaller to fit in anyone's boring a*% boxes.
@spidaman0112
@spidaman0112 Жыл бұрын
His comments on looking at an opening before a game then it coming up happens often..
@martinberit3558
@martinberit3558 Жыл бұрын
Well spoken, well structured.. you are getting serious, Andrea. Thanks
@SB737
@SB737 Жыл бұрын
This nicely summed the whole story up, saves me watching 20 videos to know everything now :)
@iiWongv
@iiWongv Жыл бұрын
yoo didn't expect to find you here keep up the hardcore!
@YellowDuckTheReal
@YellowDuckTheReal Жыл бұрын
Yoo SB i didn't expect you to be here lol wanna play a game of chess??
@oscarw1060
@oscarw1060 Жыл бұрын
SB737!!!
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577 9 ай бұрын
Sb what is your elo
@hypertommy8851
@hypertommy8851 8 ай бұрын
Lol last place I expected to find you
@audisuresgameplay5686
@audisuresgameplay5686 Жыл бұрын
6:03 The Special one does end up appearing everywhere doesn't he? 🤣🤣
@elliottFamily2
@elliottFamily2 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your keeping this PG. Great video.
@siddhaarthanad479
@siddhaarthanad479 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted to know what the full story is about this issue, and this is exactly what i needed :P
@deanwilliams433
@deanwilliams433 Жыл бұрын
Andrea's voice sounds very nice when she is not yelling :D
@toriless
@toriless Жыл бұрын
but she usually is
@avc2803
@avc2803 Жыл бұрын
Jose Mourinho in between made it more funnier
@justinthompson1757
@justinthompson1757 Жыл бұрын
The interviewer does what every interviewer does, remind the person of their known flaws but also mentions the positive.
@seamus9305
@seamus9305 Жыл бұрын
This story is the best. I knew all that stuff but Andrea did such a good, concise, compelling job that I had to listen again.
@utkarshdubey282
@utkarshdubey282 Жыл бұрын
Looks like that date with Hans went quite serious. Anyways brilliantly uncovered the story with least amount of bias, someone needed to make this kind of video.
@fitzgerald3968
@fitzgerald3968 Жыл бұрын
I heard of the Luna scandal which you helped promote!!!! Have a nice day!
@Gazpolling
@Gazpolling Жыл бұрын
Why your video sometime has subtitle sometime doesnt? Its weird and confusing
@demetsentvrk
@demetsentvrk Жыл бұрын
Andrea you need to make more videos like this hahaha so good!
@AnaCristinaG
@AnaCristinaG Жыл бұрын
No new information for me. I really loved that you didn’t “ forgot” any detail, because, details really matters. You we’re honest and not bias to any side. Good job Andrea! Loved every second! ( the one thing I don’t understand on this all storyline is, if Magnus thought that Hans was a cheater in Saint Luis how didn’t he had the same point of view 10 days earlier in Miami and played him like nothing is wrong!??? Can someone please have a theory!????? I’m dying here!!!!)
@Factacious
@Factacious Жыл бұрын
A quote from Hikaru that sound like a good explanation. "Probably when he saw Hans’s play in Miami, and on the beach…it didn’t match with the level of the play in the actual event, when you combine it with the long-existing rumours, Magnus became convinced something was off". I will say that it is a case of enough is enough. Personally, I think the evidence is overwhelming. I hope you survive and prosper :)
@bl8896
@bl8896 Жыл бұрын
Money... my best guess is that whole beach fiasco was to give the public what they wanted and they probably offered too much $ to turn down, why else would they do it
@stvcolwill
@stvcolwill Жыл бұрын
to my knowledge, Magnus has never intimated that Hans actually cheated AT the Sinqfield. This very well could have been an extension of his disagreement (along with others) of allowing him to even play as a sub in in the tourney in the first place. Given Hans' history as a cheater which most high level players new about, it's very plausible that Magnus didn't even want to be across the board from a known cheater (phyche mess). It's hard mind-bendingly enough to play in a legendary tourney at that level, let alone with the added (tons of) weight of facing a known cheater over the board. This whole thing quite well may have been a zero-tolerance stance on cheaters by Magnus.
@davypi2
@davypi2 Жыл бұрын
Why does this video have mandatory subtitles? The animated zoom in style is distracting and annoying. Google has its own CC function.
@edoson01
@edoson01 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for presenting the story end-2-end so clearly!
@davidreim4609
@davidreim4609 Жыл бұрын
As someone on the very outer fringes of chess, I would like to say that that was very informative and very well done.
@justinwilliams2381
@justinwilliams2381 Жыл бұрын
7:04-7:30 I knew Andrea's response was coming, but it was still hilarious 😂
@toriless
@toriless Жыл бұрын
It felt shorter than most of their videos but I doubt it was.
@ludomirsteinbruck9376
@ludomirsteinbruck9376 Жыл бұрын
@@toriless If hikaru says he is only saying one thing, we all know he is going on and and on
@artemthetrain14
@artemthetrain14 Жыл бұрын
Two weeks ago I never thought I'd be watching chess drama on youtube
@robertwilson3866
@robertwilson3866 Жыл бұрын
That Wesley guy is defending his name "Wesley...SO?!"
@zachowland
@zachowland Жыл бұрын
I think you meant "5 championship matches in a row", not "5 years in a row".
@r.griesche3052
@r.griesche3052 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Much more valuable than the usual trash talk blitz recordings.
@joediditde
@joediditde Жыл бұрын
All beads aside, isn't Hans still owed a date with Andrea?
@owenharris9690
@owenharris9690 Жыл бұрын
To be clear, the amount of money that Hans is suing for does not really matter, it would change dramatically even if he had the most rock solid case and is just a big number to draw attention.
@spnhm34
@spnhm34 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how it is we know that no one has cheated in over the board games and got away with it. Head hurts.
@spencerhorne5627
@spencerhorne5627 Жыл бұрын
The defaymation case speaks for itself
@Godsecution
@Godsecution Жыл бұрын
They know who they are, they can speak for themselves.
@Spironic
@Spironic Жыл бұрын
1:19 “To this day, no one has gotten away with it at the top level.” A bit tautological, no? If we knew someone had ‘gotten away with it’, they wouldn’t have gotten away with it?
@mephasor
@mephasor 11 ай бұрын
this video is gold! editing is on point!
@adrianioancucuiet346
@adrianioancucuiet346 Жыл бұрын
OMG i love the way you present things, i think you would be a great presenter!!!
@aliawada1126
@aliawada1126 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the best summary we got from all chess creators
@birtawillnews4908
@birtawillnews4908 Жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until A bzzzzzz sound is heard in the middle of a chess game
@philipps258
@philipps258 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sum up, you are the best!
@rkm237
@rkm237 Жыл бұрын
Your 30sec videos are great and entertaining. Your LONGER videos are truly AWESOME, though, so keep them coming. :)
@dronel1637
@dronel1637 Жыл бұрын
Wow this was actually a brilliant video. full of relevant information, presented well, some lighthearted jokes that were fitting, to be completely honest, i did not expect this. most recent videos on your channel (i'm just telling my personal view and dont want to offend) lean heavily into the clickbait/look at this girl niche, but this was great. thank you.
@joshuademmers4947
@joshuademmers4947 Жыл бұрын
This was a clear, concise story and unbiased from what I can tell, I am very impressed, you earned my subscribe today with this article
@user-so8kx7uj2x
@user-so8kx7uj2x Жыл бұрын
I'm sure that he cheated. No way he managed to play 100%accuracy with so much stress involved, when the two greatest players of all time never managed to. He's not even at Kasparov's level!!!
@chali8762
@chali8762 Жыл бұрын
True, true
@tardenov2968
@tardenov2968 Жыл бұрын
100% accuracy? He and Andrea said reasone he won is that magnus played poorly in the game he played only about 40% top engine moves and that is small for a world champion it just wasnt his day it happens i have days when i play so poorly peoppe that are rated 300 points behind me can beat me and days when i go into god mode i had a tournament where i played poorly against weaker players one week later i went to another tournament and every player i played there was stronger than me and i was in 5th out of 50 il
@RickBrown1975
@RickBrown1975 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! I love these non Chess playing videos , I hope you keep doing more!
@toryspelling7737
@toryspelling7737 Жыл бұрын
I've followed the whole scandal but the commentary here is just great. Very witty and entertaining!
@diosdadoapias
@diosdadoapias Жыл бұрын
It is not how perfect your move is but your tactics or strategy. War in the board could be liken to a war in a battlefield where there may be wrong places for the right unit or wrong unit for the right places but does not affect the total out come of the battle because most of the tactical or strategic moves are in right places hence some blunders may be compensated by a strong move or tactics. In Chess a Tal-like sacrifice could be imprecise but it does the work or purpose still.
@canibezeroun1988
@canibezeroun1988 Жыл бұрын
How does one sue a foreign citizen? Is it like you can't claim assets in the county anymore if you lose?
@bryantheawesome
@bryantheawesome Жыл бұрын
If Hans is legit I hope he wins, but if he's not, I hope he loses EVERYTHING.
@LoganNagol
@LoganNagol Жыл бұрын
Ball don’t lie
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Жыл бұрын
No shit. The case is figuring out whether or not he is legit.
@UncertaintyPopsicle
@UncertaintyPopsicle Жыл бұрын
haha, you're good at this. great editing. do more of these types of videos!
@songwrite
@songwrite Жыл бұрын
The LAWSUIT GAMBIT! Courageous to do this video given the current situation, hans really be playing chess irl - the lawsuit gambit
@buonuomo
@buonuomo Жыл бұрын
Hans clearly put a mirror behind Magnus so he could see his pieces...smh
@goshu7009
@goshu7009 Жыл бұрын
Hahahah :)
@zobry2xxx
@zobry2xxx Жыл бұрын
That was professional level reporting Andrea. Bravo!
@xxlCortez
@xxlCortez 9 ай бұрын
Long story short: we don't know if he cheated but everything points toward that.
@bernardo9202
@bernardo9202 Жыл бұрын
How can people put lawsuits with money set before hand, like isn't the judges & regulators decision on the value of the it
@bestlife9982
@bestlife9982 Жыл бұрын
Wooow..This video was so well put together 🔥
@jaybestnz
@jaybestnz Жыл бұрын
This is a good summary from Andrea, you can tell that the script is super careful to not say anything that they could get surf for, but to me, while the mathematical tools that show how insanely improbable so many of these events were and how not only has a boy with little sign of prodigy, after being coached by a known cheat, and cheating online regularly (believed to be around 100+ times) leaps to performing better than any person in history. Many games are at a level exceeding any player in history. Also, strangely, apart from an insane leap in performance during the few years since, unlike any other player at this level, he fails to continue to improve at all. Eg if you stack all players in history that are at that level we're prodigies at a very young age, showed genius and beating masters while under 10, then dedicated decades to gradually improving and even improving after hitting international level. Vs a known cheater, of mdoerate ability, skipping all prize games for 6 months and comes back as the best in the world and never improves since. Also, the post match interview showed an extreme lack of memory for the game just played and numerous statements of plays he considered, and most of those were losing options and he seemed to have zero awareness of this. Also, His gameplay over the board is highly erratic, dropping to his pre "miracle" level and then far exceeding the best players in the world. Also, he stated that he had prepped that particular extremely rare opening the day before in a miracle of luck. This open is so utterly rare, and Magnus has only ever played that open 1 time, when he was 7 years old. Many of his interviews also seem to contain very strange and mismatched / guilty sounding replies. The new accent. The cheating, then lying about it being only 2 games... I have been open to both options and if its a miracle - amazing. But just looking at this from a mathematical probability perspective, on balance I feel comfy that he is cheating. And I base that on the maths of the games. The chess speaks for itself.
@user-hi9jy5wy1m
@user-hi9jy5wy1m 3 ай бұрын
One thing is clear from all of his interviews: Hans is an average player at best and doesn't know much about the game.
@jaybestnz
@jaybestnz 3 ай бұрын
@@user-hi9jy5wy1m Agreed. And we have some months of that same person, mathematically, playing better than any human who has ever played, happening after he was known to be cheating, and also after being coached my a famous cheater. I feel comfortable that this points to cheating. If it wasn't cheating, it is statistically as unlikely as his insane change of form.
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