Former paramedic here. I had an hour long conversation with a man (talking him down) who had stabbed himself in the chest ten times. He had multiple bubbling/sucking chest wounds on both sides. We finally had to sedate and intubate him to get him on a chopper. When he went under, both lungs collapsed immediately. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

This is one of those videos every hunter should watch/listen to. Fantastic content, guys! 👍

Two of the best dudes in the industry, it’s all about the data !!!

I love that they are talking about lighted nocks. I had the same issues forever especially with guys I know shooting really fast bows. It seems insane to me not to be able to SEE your arrow in flight, and see where it hits.. Hearing someone say, "I think I hit him pretty good!" But, not being able to tell me exactly where, is so frustrating. Shooting a recurve I've always relied on big bright colored feathers to show me exactly where I hit, and even then, it can all happen so fast. But I want to know EXACTLY what I hit, down to which lobe of which lung, and what rib I hit.

I switched to adult arrows and broadheads 4 years ago and I've watched 6 deer die within 60 yards and a 200lb pig . Still using the same VPA heads from 4 years ago too with multiple kills on them.

Around the 19 min mark. When Shane talks about the deer that was shot good and lived for at least 3 weeks, it took me back to a big 8 I shot years ago. To me it was a perfect shot, 3 blade Muzzy, double lung, broadside, complete passthrough, blood spraying like a fountain, arrow covered in bubbly blood... I trailed him across 2 sections until I lost blood in a tall CRP field and never recovered him. I've relived that hunt over and over again. I watched a show with Wadel and T-bone some years back where they both shot the same deer through the same hole, and they were 2000 yds apart (not sure what their arrow setup was). Both shots looked perfect on camera. So, I could never understand how they can survive a "perfect" show. I know Troy preaches broadhead sharpness, but I never really thought about it until I started watching a month or so ago and I have to wonder if that was the problem. What I have noticed on the "tried and true" Muzzy and others is that the blades are completely mangled, but never really thought much of it. I have made the conscience decision to go to single bevel, cut on contact blades and perfect arrows for next year. Thanks Troy for all the hard work you put in!

Some useful info in this one… thanks to both of you for getting together and putting this out there for people to see.

Shane and Callie are the perfect team

I love watching both of you awesome seeing a video together. I binge watched both of your channels last fall and pretty much all winter after wounding a potentially 200"+ 6 year old buck in the hills of Richland county Wisconsin. (Light arrows Expandable broadheads shooting fast) Arrow Turned into guts at impact passed out the other side. Never recovered. Changed to the heavy arrow single bevel setup will never go back! Keep up the awesome research and videos boys!

Great interview. So much great information man. I feel like you guys could have went another hr easy and I'd be still glued to it! Very cool. Thanks troy

The crossover I needed

Have learn so much from both of your gentlemen’s shared experiences. On this subject: Shane’s vids & analysis of his tracks have greatly influenced in the training of my dachshund. Much thanks to you both!

Amazing video very true on people need to learn where the lungs are

This is gonna be awesome! I love Shane's channel 👍

Great Information. Would definitely like to see more of these interviews. Thanks for all information you provide backed with stubborn things called facts.

great interview. Shane's channel is fantastic.

Cant wait to long here in West Texas. The heat late in the season will spoil it.

Just shows what is bird hunters have known for years. The dog is our number 1 conservation tool.

Absolutely love this

Off subject, but I have never figured out why when someone's child winds up missing, 200 people show up to search when all they need is - one dog. Back on topic, the last 3 bucks I shot, did not react at all before the arrow hit. The last 4 doe's I shot, all reacted violently before arrow strikes and resulted in high shoulder "no man's land" hits. The silver lining for Ashby arrow setups, I got "arrow refunds" with arrows that met 10 out of 12 arrow lethality factors. One of the reasons people mistakenly label double lung hits, is because many deer targets are totally incorrect on their lung/heart size AND location.

All helpful. Thanks

I owned a Dalmatian that was 100% on recovery. He didn’t need a blood trail just get him down wind. I’ve had several Great Danes they won’t even make eye contact with a deer. 😂. I’d love to see the rifle data. Friend of mine owned a small sporting good store and kept run off and lost deer by caliber. I’d like to how close your results are to his.

Good talk

Thank u 2 for the education.. thank you

!!Razor sharp blades and pass through!! I’ve had multiple short recoveries on bad shots because sharp blades slice and when you’ve got entry and exit holes the blood can leave the cavity twice as fast and you’ll have something to follow. The last two bucks I shot took two bounds got dizzy and tipped over took a total of ten seconds. One was last night! when you send a razor sharp broadhead through them The hemorrhaging is massive and instant it cuts instead of plows. they’re dead before they even know anything is wrong.

@Troy, your desktop looks like mine, haha. Love the data, man. Thank you for sharing with us, and for the in depth discussion.

This is great info

Wow, I also have a Boykin. Mine is used for bird hunting.

I guess I have been lucky enough, to where I haven't needed a tracking dog. I try to take my time and take good shots, that have dropped all my deer within 100 yds (at the farthest).

Also, Troy, they have these things called "airplanes" nowadays. So, you may not need to drive 24 hours.

Great video and interesting data. Regarding high shoulder, in the heat of the moment are people just aiming where they would with a rifle?

Great video. I've seen a video where the guy was talking about deer dropping (jumping the string) he stated that it takes a little more time for a deer to drop when the deer's head is up vs when it's head is down. Just wandering if you've have any information on this.

I've now shot two deer with a crossbow with lighted knocks and they didn't help at all when it came to telling shot placement it just moves too fast though they do make finding the arrow afterward easier

here to learn a thing or two

I went to a heavier set up this year and am very pleased. But I'm a mechanical BH guy because I want to know that when I release my arrow it's gonna hit exactly where I aim!!!

A big problem with that whole that whole thing I hit him good is a lot of people just black out they don't know where the h*** they hit the hidden a spike shoot at AA target if you drop your bow arm to peak around and look at that arrow you're gonna miss where it's if you continue to aim you're the aim I feel like you're gonna watch where the arrow hits arrowheads cause you're gonna see it go through your site straight to the target

Hey ranch fairy a good question but idk if you have been asked this but would you make a video of a high FOC arrow like a grizzly stick with a heavy outsert and try it with a expendable broadhead like a swhacker 125 ? There’s really no videos with a high FOC with a flapper on the end would there be a difference? I’m using a high FOC with a expendable than a light normal speed arrow with a expendable ? Would be a cool video

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@ranchfairy I am shooting a 627 grain Apollo arrow with 300 of those grains up front.. I shoot a 150 grain cutthroat.. I shot a buck with it back in late September. I went through both shoulders and the deer expired 80 yards from where I shot him. I have the video on KZfaq not trying to plug my channel or anything but the blood trail I got from that shot was insane.. I’m not shooting for blood but heavy with a single bevel and the deer still bleeds like he got shot with an expandable.. what more could you want.?

do you keep stats for non-recovered but later recovered or found?