Boyuurange / Reisong A50 300B Tube Amp Schematic Deep Dive

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Skunkie Designs Electronics

Skunkie Designs Electronics

2 жыл бұрын

In this two part video, we start with a deep dive into the schematic and tube amp theory behind the changes I plan to make.
I try to explain this in a very non-technical way, for the non-engineer type viewers. Yes I leave out some details, but the point is for folks without a deep electrical/electronics background to understand what I am doing. And more importantly, what they will hopefully be doing!
I also review how the changes we made to the power supply sonically improved the amp and in part two, I will focus on doing the actual changes to the 6SN7 front end.
You can read more about cascode theory here:
www.valvewizard.co.uk/cascode....

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@michaeldoenninghaus5192
@michaeldoenninghaus5192 8 ай бұрын
Vielen Dank für detailierte Schaltungsbeschreibung. Tolles Video.
@nathanas64
@nathanas64 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the thorough and detailed explanation of the schematic.
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@eugenepohjola258
@eugenepohjola258 Ай бұрын
Howdy. Absolutely great. I did not know and understand how the cascode works. Now I believe I do. The upper triode is actually a common grid amplifier stage. It has a low input impedance and may be designed to deliver large headroom/swing with low output impedance. Exactly what I need to drive my 2xKT88 PP. I use fairly strong anode neg. feedback to the grid around the KT88. This reduces the KT88 input impedance and increases the signal headroom demand. I use the strong neg. feedback around the KT88.s to reduce the skewing effect of the OPT magnetization. i believe not everyone understands that all transformers produce a reactive magnetization current which lags 90 degrees from the signal current. This when the signal source allows reactive currents (the power grid). End tubes cannot pass reactive currents. The magnetization current and the signal current are in sync. The only way to get the 90 degrees shift is to forward the signal voltage in time. The large gain of the cascode facilitates using strong neg. feedback around the cascode too. This will, I believe, still decrease the cascode output impedance. Much Gratitude. High Regards.
@brucetaylor7095
@brucetaylor7095 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion and you've made sure that people like me can understand what your mods are setting out to achieve. I've done basic work on various amps, so I can at least handle a soldering iron, so this is all possible for me. Thank you! I'm running a 5U3C rectifier and 6H8C drivers. I swapped the stock 300B tubes for some TJ Music 300B/n mesh plates. The TJ's are nice, but they didn't warrant the extra expense. The stock Psvanes are pretty good.
@moodyga40
@moodyga40 2 жыл бұрын
can't wait till building starts
@davidholmberg9999
@davidholmberg9999 2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant, (I had no idea how a tube amp worked before watching the video), you are a great teacher and this is a fantastic resource.
@cobar5342
@cobar5342 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a valuable insight. I have one of these and plan to follow your mods! You have a great understanding of tube amps!
@pauljanda5262
@pauljanda5262 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best substantive discussions of how tube amps work that I've seen on KZfaq! And such a fun amp to mod. Great stuff!
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@sonhouse9636
@sonhouse9636 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward part 2 !
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to do that one in a day or two!
@jked7463
@jked7463 2 жыл бұрын
Love the explanations. Some of it was over my head but it is a great learning experience.
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@nikhilji
@nikhilji 2 жыл бұрын
Does this amp use AC for the 300B heater supplies or is it DC regulated? (BTW, great walkthru and comparison and of the two schematics ,you are truly democratizing high end audio vacuum tube design!!)
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Unregulated DC and that is my goal. I think people try to super complicate what is going on, much of this can be sorted out with some trial and error, a volt meter and an analog scope. Tubes are VERY forgiving!
@nickk6109
@nickk6109 2 жыл бұрын
There's also PSRR - look at the B+, through the 10k, past the 33uF (LPF there), and then to the 6SN7, it feed B+ noise into the grid of the 300B which then comes out 180deg out of phase to the transformer, cancelling some noise. The 0.47uF cap will phase change it but you get some benefit. At least you don't have to worry about elevated heater voltages with a 6SN7, unlike the small B9A tubes (thinking 12BH7A for example).
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
I will be elevating the heaters on the 6SN7 to around 40-50V as the 90+ volts is way too close for comfort for me :) PSRR (power-supply rejection ratio) is likely only relevant in a pre-amp or phono stage IMHO , especially as clean as this PS is. With a DHT, it's much more likely to be the heaters or lead dress causing noise.
@1mctous
@1mctous 2 жыл бұрын
With more than 3 times the voltage swing for the 300B grid, you should come close to getting its full output.
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
We shall see :)
@1mctous
@1mctous 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics As you've often said, theory only gets you so far. I'm not a hard-core measurement freak but I insist on competent engineering (lookin' at you, Boyuurange) which requires both measuring and listening.
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
@@1mctous at some point some of this is just false advertising. "Output power: 7.6W x 2" "Total harmonic distortion: 1% (1kHz)" It's not even half that power output.
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 2 жыл бұрын
I was a little surprised that this circuit has no global NFB and almost if any, local NFB. I'm looking forward to seeing what the figures are.
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Most of these DHT amps don't and all of my SE amps use Schade type local instead of global feedback.
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcprili279 good bye
@rickg8015
@rickg8015 2 жыл бұрын
I have a similar front end for my 300B amp, except that it uses a different dual triode (medium mu too, but higher gm type) in cascode.. I left the lower triode’s cathode R unbypassed for the cascode since my preamp is relatively high in gain..
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Which tube are you using?
@rickg8015
@rickg8015 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics Bendix 6900’s (super uprated 5687’s).. Had them for over 20 years so decided to use ‘em some years back.. Pretty rare tubes now.
@fredbes9115
@fredbes9115 2 жыл бұрын
hello and a thank you from France for your videos, could you make one on nobsound ms-10d mkii or liston rv-1800 or madison ditto? I know it's a first of the AB hybrid range but not that bad. Personally on kef 104 ab assé good but can be better with some modification, for the lamp I have already found but there may be even better than the Russian p-ev. best regards fred
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics
@SkunkieDesignsElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
If someone sends me one to review (and look into mods), I'd be happy to :)
@fredbes9115
@fredbes9115 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics thanks very much
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