THE FALL OF THE HOUSE OF USHER Ending Explained

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I review, breakdown and explain The Fall Of The House Of Usher Netflix. I discuss the ending of Mike Flanagan's show and the Edgar Allan Poe inspiration behind it. I answer the identity behind Verna and react to who she was along and the deal that she proposed. I also delve into the characters such as Roderick, Madeline, Frederick, Lenore, Prospero, Vic, Leo and Tammy. I also give my theories and predictions on if there will be a season 2.
00:00 Intro
00:36 What Was The Meaning Of The Ending?
04:55 The Edgar Allan Poe Inspiration
06:22 Overall Review
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@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Would you take the deal that Verna proposed? YES or NO? Comment your answer below!

@anoushkas8726 8 ай бұрын

I guess Roderick wouldn't have taken it if he knew that the deaths would be do gruesome. But Verna, as seen throughout the series, gave people the death that they deserve. So, because the mode of killing Gris was so cruel, 'gruesome' was set in stone for his destiny anyway. (Although both psychopaths showed no remorse in the end, so may he would have ).

@anoushkas8726 8 ай бұрын

Lol, I hadn't watched your video before writing my comment and wrote exactly what you said in the video!😅

@sunnybee9453 8 ай бұрын

Definitely no. I think it takes a very high level of greed for a person to say yes, exchanging life for riches. Anyway great work, i love that you noted all of the poe references. I love all the series from flanagan, they have very rich story telling that crawls under your skin, its never just flat out horror.

@angelaholmes8888 8 ай бұрын

Nope I wouldn't had taken the deal

@tkaki6029 8 ай бұрын

No. I’d never trade my future bloodline for my success. The deal is “I’ll let you build. Kingdom. But you have to watch it burn to the ground before you die. And die with the final realization you coveted the wrong thing.” Essentially the deal is a life wasted.

@Andre_APM 8 ай бұрын

What makes the deal more impactful is that Roderick made it when he already had two children

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

So true - showed he didn't care in the slightest!

@sitori2509 7 ай бұрын

And it showed how evil and selfish he was to KEEP having children. Madeline was a psychopath and didn't have kids because she never wanted them anyway. Roderick was a man-whore who refused to wear a condom so was perversely enjoying bringing bastard children into the world knowing they'd die prematurely.

@taiburnett9725 7 ай бұрын

And why would you continue to have more children?? Just shows he didn't care

@nkechiwilliams995 7 ай бұрын

@@taiburnett9725We clearly see that rod was in denial, he very well remembered that conversation with Verna but just thought he was drunk and crazy and moved on and had more children in ignorance. I feel the reason Mads didn't have her own children would be she probably felt like her neices and nephews were her own kids and also remembering that night.

@sctkarter1111 6 ай бұрын

Idk I think Verna had a compelling argument there. They can have 40-50 years of luxury and wealth with no consequences or an additional 20-30 regular years full of struggle and stress.

@whatalsaid 8 ай бұрын

I dont think Verna is meant to be a demon. Even though her moral compass is pretty ambiguous, it’s clear she’s closer to good than bad. She never comes off as being sinister, and she enjoys killing off bad people while feels remorseful about killing Lenore. Since this is a Poe-inspired story, I think she’s more meant to be a physical embodiment of death. Like a Grim Reaper type of character, similar to Shachath from American Horror Story. When Roderick mentions that ravens are considered “servants of the devil” at the bar, she even counters this by saying ravens are actually considered good luck in some cultures.

@x25violator 8 ай бұрын

The scene with Lenore was heartbreaking. She was compassionate and tender. It made me tear up. 🥺

@ace23ceo54 8 ай бұрын

100%

@nigerianpride253 8 ай бұрын

I dont kno. She seems pretty sinister at times & enjoys it.

@silviaetna9874 8 ай бұрын

It is her job. But she has more morals than many of the human characters

@seemonjena659 8 ай бұрын

She always gave the Ushers a chance to change for good. The Ushers were so stuck up, so entitled, so privileged, so in love with what they were none of them were ready to accept their flaws. Yes, Madeline and Frederick were the main culprits but the Usher siblings (with the exception of Lenore) were flawed.

@moxiemaxie3543 8 ай бұрын

I love that Mike builds a relationship with his actors and calls them back for divorce rolls instead of type casting

@5.kc.5 8 ай бұрын

he only hires divorced actors?

@Asta_Rose 8 ай бұрын

@@5.kc.5I think they meant diverse

@5.kc.5 8 ай бұрын

@@Asta_Rose i know 🤣🤣 just poking fun at the typo

@QOB_LovesRocknRoll 8 ай бұрын

I love divorce rolls

@5.kc.5 8 ай бұрын

@@QOB_LovesRocknRoll divorce rolls >>> pizza rolls

@acWeishan 8 ай бұрын

It very much had the analogy of the boomers decision to chose their lives being great and having their kids pay the price down the road. I always felt the Boomers, who started off quite idealistic, changed after the 70s recession. They opted for the path that would give them good lives and have their bloodlines pay for it down the road

@shagufamalik 8 ай бұрын

I completely agree with this.😢

@Angelakoonce25 8 ай бұрын

I think this show embodies the phrase “We pay for the sins of our fathers” including the decisions of our ancestors and predecessors. We didn’t make the deal itself but ultimately we are paying for the decisions of those made before us.

@quizzlybear 8 ай бұрын

Amazing analogy!

@sitapohiva1862 7 ай бұрын

great analogy!!

@Dervraka 8 ай бұрын

I think the moral of the story was "accept the life fate intends for you, don't try to circumvent it". Take Arthur Pym, he was probably the evilest of them all, but Verna gave him a chance to make a deal with her to escape spending the rest of his life in prison. His reply was basically, "No Deal. I made my choices I'll live with the consequences of them." And of all the characters with the possible exception of Lenore, he was the only one Verna looked on with genuine respect.

@wanderingseth 8 ай бұрын

There was nothing to suggest Verna was a minion of Satan. Where did that come from? She was the Raven - a spirit of 'consequence' - i.e. the spiritual embodiment of karma. She claimed to be sad that they Ushers hadn't walked down a path of light. She took no pleasure in killing an innocent, only those who deserved to go out in suffering. She wasn't evil, and there was nothing in the series about her being Satan's minion. HP Lovecraft was also credited as inspiration for the story, anchoring this series on the genre of cosmic horror. The Raven fits perfectly into that world, and by her own admission, she has been making deals with humans since ancient times. That doesn't make her satanic. Don't force her into a Christian mythological framework.

@jfm5949 8 ай бұрын

The writings of Edgar Allen Poe percolate the whole series from the mask of the red death to the raven . It centres around the gothic macabre of the inevitability of death and the bargaining of life . Any specific Religion has nothing to do with things . Retribution, contrition and the human condition are in my opinion, core features . Karma, serendipity , reap what you sow are central themes of most moralistic storytelling

@Anesthesia1619 8 ай бұрын

Perfectly said

@timothylangston3560 8 ай бұрын

She says she went "Topside" that to me is the only " evidence " that she could be the devil, or a minion of.

@rubyrayne8 8 ай бұрын

But topside just means above the water line, or on a ship’s deck or something. She is out of space and time. So topside to me just means coming into their space and time. Agree with everyone who says she has nothing to do with Satan. She was death, bargaining of life and the consequences it can bring. She clearly had compassion for others. I think people are just use to a “deal with the devil” troupe so they don’t stop to think about the actual character’s actions.

@wanderingseth 8 ай бұрын

@@timothylangston3560 all that means is land of the living VS land of the dead. Poe wasn't a Christian. People need to stop projecting Christianity onto it

@isaaclopez-eb6yg 8 ай бұрын

I enjoyed Verna's character she is supposedly based on a Celtic Goddess. I dont think she was a demon because she was fair in her punishment.

@coribug42 8 ай бұрын

She tried to save the first wife, but it was too late.

@StandAsYouAre 8 ай бұрын

@@coribug42if she didn’t dilly dally and moved her butt she would have got out of the building with the wait staff and security.

@champagnenoir9361 7 ай бұрын

@StandAsYouAre But why yall acting like if a peculiar stranger approached you and whispered "get out" calmly in your ear before disappearing at a sex party, you'd actually do it.😂 Think about it.

@schipperkeandcats3469 8 ай бұрын

I saw verna more as a angel of death she gave the ppl who acted high and mighty and abused there power a fiting death but lenore got a peaceful death no fear no pain bc she was a kind hearted good person but also stil a kid she even admited that she hated that part of the job

@xgurl10 8 ай бұрын

Agreed and when she told Camille your death could've been easy if you stayed home

@StandAsYouAre 8 ай бұрын

I never saw Verna as evil or an agent of the devil. Evil wouldn’t give you a choice on how you shuffle off this mortal coil. Pretty much all the Adult children of Usher had a chance to back out what would be their end. They would still end because of the deal struck, but not in such a horrible ways.

@mrparts 7 ай бұрын

Exactly, she’s just death. There is no good or evil deity or religion in this story. It’s just people deciding to be purely evil by choice.

@DD-ok2pt 8 ай бұрын

THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS Roderick Usher - Greed Frederick Usher - Wrath Camille L'Espanaye - Envy Napoleon "Leo" Usher - Gluttony Tamerlane Usher - Sloth Victorine LaFourcade -Pride Prospero "Perry" Usher - Lust

@alleycat616 7 ай бұрын

Not sure if I agree on Leo and Tamerlanes deadly sins.

@lt0518 7 ай бұрын

Switch Tammy and Leo!

@radhiadeedou8286 6 ай бұрын

Some of these kinda fit, the others are random

@sctkarter1111 6 ай бұрын

Tammy is definitely more envy. Her entire thing is about body image and looking good Leo is definitely sloth. He’s a drug addict gamer lol You could argue Camille is gluttony for her hunger for knowledge and information

@christianne7157 5 ай бұрын

Interesting take. Tammy is not sloth, though. I think it's vanity that's her major flaw (vanity is a form of pride). There is a vanity in how she likes to 'watch herself' with Bill. There is vanity in how she decorates everywhere with mirrors so she can constantly look at herself. Her enterprise focuses on external appearance too. I think she's similar to Victorine in her ambition to earn her father's approval and to be popular. She is also guilty of pride in the way she snubs her half-siblings and in how she uses Bill. Maybe Leo is sloth? To be honest, I think he was more likable than most of the Ushers despite his addictions. He is the only one who shows emotion at Prospero's death and he had given him a bit of a motivational talk before the party. He seems shocked by his family's practical tactics after the massacre. Leo doesn't go about trying to harm others and he seems genuinely concerned for Fredrick when he asks for a hit. He does seem to be lusty when he has the fangirl over... but then again it seems like she was grateful for the opportunity and he does not come across as cruel. The cat lie was an attempt at making things right which got out of hand. I guess, what I'm trying to say is, his faults seem minor compared to the others and though I don't fault Verna's other executions, I feel she could have been kinder to Leo. I think sloth suits him better because he seems to prefer to disassociate and take the 'easier' way out by lying than take action or tell the truth. I don't know who to pin gluttony on though.

@sandracushing8907 8 ай бұрын

I know that Moxiemaxie has said this, but I love how so many of Mike Flanagan's actors come back again and again in his amazing productions. I noticed Geralds Game on one of the tv screens, and other little Easter eggs, like Kate Siegels dead character wearing gloves resting them on her father's shoulders like Theo wore.

@DavidGowers 8 ай бұрын

There's literally nothing in the show to indicate that Verna was "a minion of Satan", only that she was some kind of karmic spirit. In the original poem The Raven, which she's named after, there are references to the bird having come from hell/the afterlife/the underworld, but there's nothing in the show to say as much. If she was truly from Satan as he's usually portrayed, she would have killed Lenore horrifically, and probably would have kept pushing Arthur until he accepted the deal, or just killed him outright for trying to kill her. Also, not only are the episodes all named after Poe's stories, and mostly plotted in a slightly similar way to those stories, but pretty much every single character is also named after a character in Poe's works - aside from Rufus Griswold and William Longfellow, who are named for rivals of Poe's - as are the pharma company Fortunato, the drug Ligadone, the ship in the bottle - the Grampus - which is also Lenore's nickname for Roderick. I guess you could go so far as to say that every single name spoken or written in the show is another Poe nod.

@aliciastarck1296 8 ай бұрын

I absolutely love it! I’m rewatching. I’m a huge fan of Edgar Allan Poe. I just clicked on it not knowing what to expect and I was just glued ! Incredible acting. Absolutely thrilling.

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

It is so good isn't it!

@tkaki6029 8 ай бұрын

The Cask of Amontillado was such a fucked up short story. Stoked it made it to the show.

@MrThomandjerry 8 ай бұрын

lenore usher death brings verna no joy...... thats scene is very sad.....

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah that was such a powerful one! The only good Usher out of them all

@angelaholmes8888 8 ай бұрын

I was so sad 😥

@MsNikkibuzz 8 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed the show. The acting, the direction and the jump scares. It really had me tuned in. Like it’s a really good watch.

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Totally agree!

@earthcitizen2515 8 ай бұрын

In edgar allan poe’s novel “the voyage of arthur gordon pym”, arthur encounters the grim reaper while on the voyage as also suggested in the series. So safe to assume, she is the grim reaper

@ev3t175 8 ай бұрын

Watched it in one day…. Again he’s great so I expect nothing else😁

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah it is awesome isn't it!

@ReannaPeters12 8 ай бұрын

Yes, I love it. 😊

@Noodels960 8 ай бұрын

I think verna is Tekeli-li. In backstory of Arthur Pym, in hes expedition, he found hollow earth and creature named Tekeli-li living in there. When Verna and arthur talk she say: "You dont remember me?" "I had to go top side, you saw me standing on the ice" "The name "Tekeli-li" comes from the cry of a shoggoth, a creature in Antarctica from At the Mountains of Madness by H. P. Lovecraft. This was in turn taken from "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket" by Edgar Allen Poe, where it is an exclamation of woe and suffering by a people of Antarctica."

@silviaetna9874 8 ай бұрын

I loved the classical inspiration from EA Poe mixed with the pharmaceutical family reality he is nodding at. It was a great idea, well executed and beautiful to look at. It is a good cautionary tale

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah it was a good blend of two completely different times!

@krysharm 8 ай бұрын

The metaphorical and the literal fall of house of usher 👏

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Literally!

@jimmyb2655 8 ай бұрын

In this world, Mads had the right idea. Take the deal and don't have kids.

@thorn.fieldnsta 8 ай бұрын

I want an entiere show about Madeline, she was truly an amazing character and the actreesses did something incredible with that

@brinag8604 8 ай бұрын

@@thorn.fieldnstawatch Battlestar gallactica, she's amazing on that show

@guimaraespadilha 8 ай бұрын

@@thorn.fieldnstaEvery single actress that played Madeleine did a great job.

@justanotheronlineobserver3387 8 ай бұрын

Or maybe Rodrik gets snipped and adopts? Keep the body count to 2. After all, Freddy's wife and Juno were Ushers and lived. Maybe adopted kids would be spared too - can't be part of the bloodline if you haven't been born in it. Rodrik could have ignored his biological children and parented his adopted children instead. If he was serious about the deal he should have poisoned the bio kids (the wouldn't have a full life anyway unless he outlived them) and since Verna promised no consequences, he's free to emotionally neglect an adopted child that will outlive him. Anna would be upset but, he didn't care when he bribed his kids to live with him why should he care about her now. Verna just said that the bloodline had to end when he died, not that he couldn't end it himself or that he couldn't give the name to an biologicly unrelated to him kid. If he wants to play it safe he would need to have 2+ adopted kids by the time he dies: one to share the name and one to keep an unrelated name. That way Verna would take at best only 1

@jimmyb2655 8 ай бұрын

@@thorn.fieldnsta She plays the Mom in Donnie Darko too. She's great in that movie.

@vuksavanovic375 8 ай бұрын

You forgot to mention Midnight Mass. Also I would never say that Verna is a demon or Satan's minion, wtf! She is more of a death incarnate or nature, luck, fortune etc.

@Ichigo911 8 ай бұрын

She is definitely a cross road demon

@mrparts 7 ай бұрын

She’s Karmic Death . The ultímate “You reap what you sow” tale.

@jamesnw 8 ай бұрын

I'm surprised no one said anything about the movie The Crow, and how it enabled the punishment of a grave injustice. While no one was brought back from the dead, there was a reckoning.

@Accarty8957 8 ай бұрын

I just finished binge watched the entire show with my gf. It was worth the watch

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Definitely!

@BoudicasQuest 8 ай бұрын

i love poe! i'll have to check this out-both "haunting" and "bly" were both fantastic ~

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah 100%! It's definitely worth a watch!

@thee_morpheus 5 ай бұрын

I don't think demons/minions have control over life and death like she did, she gave Lenore a calm and pleasant death as well as bringing Rod. and Mad. back to life.

@danpeete3014 8 ай бұрын

I really loved this series great acting, scary , and absolutely intelligent story telling. THANK YOU EDGAR ALLEN POE.

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah it's so good isn't it!

@vanzc7920 8 ай бұрын

Binging the series this weekend

@moxiemaxie3543 8 ай бұрын

I'm eager to watch whatever aspects of human nature Mike Flan wants to explore

@user-dh6nh6jm6w 7 ай бұрын

I had read early reviews and wondered if this might be a set back after the two Hauntings and Midnight Mass. No way. I don't think it tops any of the previous entries, but it still is scary, brutal, and makes a good point. Bravo to Mike Flanagan and company.

@RoadNetworkTV 8 ай бұрын

This show is mouth watering. Good job.

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s so good isn’t it!

@dreyaxo3440 7 ай бұрын

Im sure this show was his last with Netflix to fulfill his contract with them as Flanagan has now moved over to Amazon... casting has already been revealed. But ueah the Fall of the house of Usher was awesome... right up there with Hill house!

@HodajuciParadoks 8 ай бұрын

There is no life without pain...that was their first mistake. We learn from pain, we know something is wrong with the feeling, we know we need to heal if we feel pain...pain is necessary evil. That said, more logic way of thinking is there is something wrong when pain is there, painkiller is anesthetic , just mask that pain is not there, it is, hurt is too..and you can be hurt even more if you do not feel that you are weak and need to heal. Same here, they took the deal not to feel any life pains, and that masked how they were weak and needed to heal...and they all died at the end. Poetic. Plus moral of the story is there is not shortcuts, you have to do it the hard way, keep your morals, even if you feel pain, you will heal...masking it will be your downfall. You will not see how rotten you are from the inside. Really poetic. I love this show. Short, but good.

@canadiancitizencat 7 ай бұрын

Screen magic! I want more! Please flanagan make these season longer with more episodes

@BrainPilot 7 ай бұрын

Let’s hope so!

@billiebagel8979 7 ай бұрын

In "The Cask of Amontillado" by Poe, the main character seeks revenge by sealing his enemy (His name was Fortunado!) behind a wall brick by brick. Just another Poe reference.

@hanginthere008 8 ай бұрын

Every dingle episode is based on a poe story ...all of them

@steveurkel9097 8 ай бұрын

I thought the titles of the episodes gave it away honestly.

@9razzler9 8 ай бұрын

i dont think verna is demonic or satan's minion. she must be a neutral entity. she gives people a deal, but how that turn is handled by the people is up to the people. will they give in to base desires or do good. she said it herself, she will be watching.

@Noelito40 8 ай бұрын

Agree completely with your review. It's a great watch, with some really good acting, (especially the young Madeleine) And Carla Cugino really earned her money! She was brilliant! ...And it just struck me. The Usher fortune was made on a pain killer, and what was Verna, if not a pain killer! Pain is part of life, pain is unavoidable (which is what Roderick said at the end) but Verna was the ultimate painkiller, she could alleviate suffering!

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the vid!

@rossjones1530 6 ай бұрын

Verna wasn’t a malevolent character, in fact it might be inaccurate to call her a “character” full stop; she was a force, the very embodiment of The Deal, of the idea that debts must always be paid, and that there are always loopholes and curlicues in every contract, but the contract itself is _never_ broken. A fundamental force of the universe.

@jessicamessica2271 8 ай бұрын

I feel like the show life Madeline off way too easy.

@mvigil56 7 ай бұрын

I think what i realized after watching these videos is that Rodrick was trying to make a pill or that heart beater thing so that he could possibly try and "live" for ever or for longer cuz i think he knew his time was coming and deep down he knew and remembered that deal he made thats why he kept pushing Victorine for that product she was working on but idk thats just me

@tamedthethreebears 8 ай бұрын

...wait so this isn't about Usher the singer ??

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Loool

@angelaholmes8888 8 ай бұрын

Yep this show is a one and done plus mike is going to work with Amazon doing the dark tower series

@lewisb7800 4 ай бұрын

Hopefully they make a show called Verna ,,cause she has alot work still to do around here...

@angelh6345 Ай бұрын

So my theories early on that Verna wasn't satanic. She was more judge and jury over life dealings. More like an angel in my opinion that offers each usher the chance to change their ways despite the sins of their father/ grandfather

@cadillacdeville5828 8 ай бұрын

I'm actually going to watch it later...

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Definitely worth the watch!

@detestor420 7 ай бұрын

Also did Mightnight Mass

@BrainPilot 7 ай бұрын

Yes very true!

@derrellarthur4604 8 ай бұрын

The sad thing about everything. Is his sister was the one always getting him into shit. Even his wife before she left him. Said she didn’t like her sister-in-law. Because she was so manipulative and evil. She’s the one that came up with the plan. To get dude out the way. That sat everything in motion.

@NadiasCloud 8 ай бұрын

Fr. She’s the villain to me

@derrellarthur4604 8 ай бұрын

@@NadiasCloud yes she is. She even tried to convince him to kill himself. Thinking it was going to save her. But Verna wasn’t going for that shit. And brought him back to suffer. Everyone got what they deserved except the granddaughter. That part was really sad and made me shed tears. But Verna said this is the part in what she does. She doesn’t like. But she had to go through with it. It broke Verna’s heart. She gave her a peaceful death unlike the others.

@DavidGowers 8 ай бұрын

THE FALL OF THE HOUSE OF USHER Ending Explained: THEY'RE FUCKING DEAD! THAT'S IT! THAT'S WHAT THE ENDING MEANS! THEY'RE. ALL. DEAD.

@EetusjrFeetus 7 ай бұрын

AGAIN VERNA ISNT A “MINION OF SATAN” SHE IS QUITE LITERALLY DEATH PERSONIFIED YALL FORGET THAT RAVENS ALSO REPRESENT DEATH AND MADELINE REFERS TO HER AS DEATH HERSELF and the creator himself said she wasn’t and he described her more as “the executor of fate or the executor of karma." Which kind of sounds like death itself

@evtk9990 8 ай бұрын

You forgot many of the references to poe, king prospero's party and the death being a major one.

@lisawinters8778 7 ай бұрын

The raven holds a very important role in many cultures, including Native American, Egyptian, Greek, Scandinavian & Celtic. Some roles include trickster, prophecy, shapeshifter, mediator between life & death, carrier of souls to the Other worlds, dispenser of justice & are intimately connected to several gods & goddesses, including Odin, the Morrigan, Apollo, Bran the Blessed & others. I could not figure out which raven aspect Verna was, but Roderick & Madeline were obsessed with ancient Egypt, so maybe Horus. Anyway, no way was she a minion of Satan. That would be so boring.

@The4thMan28 8 ай бұрын

Its his last show with Netflix hes signed with Amazon now

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

That’ll be interesting! Especially to see if the tone will follow

@The4thMan28 8 ай бұрын

@BrainPilot let's hope so, he's one of the few i get excited for when it comes to horror

@ev3t175 8 ай бұрын

Nooooo I don’t have Amazon 🥲😭

@hanginthere008 8 ай бұрын

Verna = raven the raven in peos work is death ....

@SayMyName80M 8 ай бұрын

So I kept thinking Verna was the Angel of death. But that’s wrong right? What exactly is Verna?

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

I saw Verna as a ‘Minion of Satan’. Something which ravens were described as in the show. So she almost acts on behalf of the devil in making the deals. That’s one way it can be interpreted.

@SayMyName80M 8 ай бұрын

@@BrainPilotI like that interpretation. I also did go right to “devil” at one point since they did make a deal but it obviously isn’t that simple. This is why I love Verna as a character. Quite the mystery.

@DiegoCostaCardoso 8 ай бұрын

I like to think her as "Desire and Consequence", an agent of irony.

@charlesharry7901 8 ай бұрын

She not really a davil she doing her job after bad people I understand about granddaughter she have doing to her. She gave her peaceful death deal need be done

@thee_morpheus 5 ай бұрын

@@BrainPilot I don't think demons/minions have control over life and death like she did, she gave Lenore a calm and pleasant death as well as bringing Rod. and Mad. back to life.

@pablolothbrok3757 7 ай бұрын

Where did you get the satans minion theory from?

@BrainPilot 7 ай бұрын

It was mentioned in the show!

@mrparts 7 ай бұрын

Where? This show is all about free will and karma, not about gods and demons.

@slayer0390 8 ай бұрын

this was amazing, yet hill house is still a hard to beat masterpiece

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah that's true!

@darrylmars 7 ай бұрын

Great writing & acting still exist, just not that often.

@BrainPilot 7 ай бұрын

Do you this it was there in this show?

@ricardoabh3242 8 ай бұрын

Why minion of Satan? It did not feel really like that, regret and option where given.

@Ichigo911 8 ай бұрын

She is definitely a cross road demon

@ricardoabh3242 8 ай бұрын

@@Ichigo911 she did not appear in a road or was summoned:)…

@harryo82 7 ай бұрын

Verna is not one of "Satan's minions." They never mention anything as lame as Satan, and she specifically says there is no such thing as a soul.

@Ravuun 7 ай бұрын

Um, and Midnight Mass which was vastly superior to the Midnight Club.

@rohid_mollik 8 ай бұрын

What about the mother at the beginning is she that strong too break a coffin and crawl out

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

It wasn’t that deep so maybe it didn’t have the full force of the weight

@pablolothbrok3757 7 ай бұрын

Or maybe a deeply religious woman made a deal on her deathbed for revenge

@gabrielrangel956 8 ай бұрын

I think Verna is Death herself

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah she could be some version!

@0912sooli 8 ай бұрын

@@BrainPilot this would also fit to the Poe's theme in his work. He always written more about death and fear of it

@korvelek5982 8 ай бұрын

Minion of Satan? From where did u get that?

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Ravens are described as being 'The Minions of Satan'. It was mentioned in the show

@BroskrTV 8 ай бұрын

Clearly stated by the reference of Ravens being employed by the Devil due to them not being on the ark. Maybe you should rewatch the show

@pablolothbrok3757 7 ай бұрын

I've walked this earth long before human beings where sentient

@alexiswoods4091 8 ай бұрын

10/10..

@oscarross4337 8 ай бұрын

I got lost in the last two episodes I’m over it haha

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

That's a shame!

@janechoy2073 8 ай бұрын

There won't be a season 2 of this show b/c this is the last show that MF did for Netflix; he's jumping to Amazon.

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Interesting choice by him!

@alanafowler3024 2 ай бұрын

You forgot Midnight Mass.

@Noelito40 8 ай бұрын

My theory is that Verna is "choice"! 🤔

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

That’s a cool theory! I’ve not heard that one before

@FrasFs 8 ай бұрын

Did you just say The Midnight Club over the more obvious Midnight Mass, that’s way better

@ThisAIisStillLearning 8 ай бұрын

This fucking series. I can lay all those deaths (pharma deaths) on Verna’s feet. She’s the one that enabled the Usher siblings.

@micrhymer4062 7 ай бұрын

You left out mask off the red death

@lovelymix22 8 ай бұрын

I don’t think satan wouldn’t be sad to take life

@xgurl10 8 ай бұрын

I wonder if the Kennedys made a deal like this

@susanbishop5349 7 ай бұрын

Verna had nothing to do with Satan

@HandOfSorrow 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't think we saw the same Series, You lost me at "minion of Satan"

@Ocelot4R 8 ай бұрын

"... and the Midnight Club" 😆

@sherryrose3777 8 ай бұрын

The scene where the lawyer asked Usher if he was sure his sister was dead was odd dark comedy. He just basically answered in a way where he was almost laughing. He wasnt sure if the woman he just gouged the eyes out of was dead. When she grabbed his neck and strangled him I actually laughed because it was such a surprise and he deserved it. There was nothing sad about him and his sister's deaths or the rest of the family members. They fully deserved it. The political speech the sister gave at the end was ridiculous. I get that Flanagan had a message but when youre about to die do you go political? I think the speech was out if place. Earlier on the show would have been a better time for that. IMO

@jamesclarke2813 8 ай бұрын

Glad you liked the series; I loved it and would put it on a par with Hill House. I feel like giving the characters philosophical monologues is just a very Flanagan thing, like the wonderful speeches in Midnight Mass. I understand how you feel about Madeleine’s speech at the end, but I loved it and I think it kind of fits for me personally because she knows she is no longer able to avoid death and she is reckoning with her legacy. She is trying to rationalize the evil that she has done to the world through Fortunato and justify it by saying that the world is full of greed and evil-doing and she and Roderick were just playing the same game. In the end she doesn’t take any responsibility or feel remorse for her actions.

@sherryrose3777 8 ай бұрын

@@jamesclarke2813 very true. I agree. The speech was very good. Id have written it into the script sooner but it was a very good show!

@calfowler6838 7 ай бұрын

Great writing Great show but the whole hallucinations ran its course by episode 4..so from there we knew that someone will die by seeing things that aren't there

@rickeybrown9563 8 ай бұрын

Satan's minion 🤔... Nah

@Ichigo911 8 ай бұрын

She is definitely a cross road demon

@QOB_LovesRocknRoll 8 ай бұрын

She feels like a crossroad demon...or a God or Karma...Karma is a God

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s fair!

@OldGayGamer 7 ай бұрын

Yes. I'm gay and will never have offspring.

@brauckstar 8 ай бұрын

I choose yess and to not have kids. Maddy was smart and chose to not have kids. Rod chose to have ALL the kids. Don’t have kids and it’s a sweet deal. Would have made plenty of money off Ligadone without becoming a death merchant. viable pain drug, it’s the greed to push it beyond medical necessity.

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Yeah - Roderick should have stopped!

@thee_morpheus 5 ай бұрын

Yeah still not a good deal for Maddy, still her nieces and nephews.

@drointhewind480 8 ай бұрын

50 years as an emperor or 80 years as a peasant......easy deal ill take the 50 years

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Even with the future generations being impacted?

@drointhewind480 8 ай бұрын

@@BrainPilot but direct decendants get 50 years as well.

@lynnnnyl74 8 ай бұрын

@@BrainPilot I mean...if children and descendants aren't a big deal to someone, I guess that choice is easier 🤣

@huntsman145 8 ай бұрын

@@drointhewind480 Since you don't make this deal as baby, your direct descendants get way less than 50 years. Second generation descendants get to die as children. Thanks grandpa!

@pasineeomy 8 ай бұрын

a lot more fun than midnight mass which was my great sleeping pills 😅

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

Oh wow haha

@wt9837 7 ай бұрын

I completely disagree that Verna is one of Satan’s minions.

@BrainPilot 7 ай бұрын

That's fair enough

@chad63 7 ай бұрын

it means god is useless. even the devil can guarantee you a life that good but god nah just suffer

@Pendragonthegreat 8 ай бұрын

I just dont get why Verna made their deaths so horrible and elaborate

@BrainPilot 8 ай бұрын

I think because of the way that they acted. When you look at Frederick, Verna was going to spare him the brutality but because of the way that he treated his wife he ended up getting treated like the rest of them

@amaz270 7 ай бұрын

They created they own deaths like Camille she wasn’t supposed to be there in a restricted area she was reckless and wanted to bring her sister down and she got herself killed Same with prospero he was the one with the dumb idea about the sprinklers and verna tried to convince him to stop but he didn’t listen He as well got himself killed

@pablolothbrok3757 7 ай бұрын

Verna gave 4 of the 6 kids a chance to turn back and they didn't due to their own greed and hate

@bigt4135 8 ай бұрын

I would have made that deal. 150,000 people die in the world everyday.

@lynnnnyl74 8 ай бұрын

and u don't care that you cause it?

@Givmelibertyordeth1776 8 ай бұрын

Why do we need an ending explanation for the series? It wasn’t complicated. Lot of unnecessary woke brainwashing agenda politics pushed all throughout the show though. It’s be nice to be able to just watch a movie or show without having all that shoved in our face. People have different political point of views and politics needs to stay out of entertainment. Movies and shows are suppose to be a nice brief escape from the craziness of the real world for a bit. These shows are obviously politically controlled by rich power hungry millionaires and billionaires though.