Thanks for the input! You're probably right. I had one or two bad experiences drawing brain freeze as a dead card, and cut it early on BUTTTT I think you're right in that the upside is just too high to not play it. Just checked your primer, seems great. You wouldn't happen to have a resource or the math on hand of the minimum amount of cards in your library vs max amount of cards in your opponents libraries to be able to mill them all out would you? Just in case you're forced to play it out.

@@PlaytoWinMTG lengthy response warning.. I actually got the opportunity to play it out in a pod on Friday! I won turn 6 with it. The math theory checked out in game. Let's assume best case senario. intuition on t2 to set it up, and go for the line turn 3 (after keeping a 7 card opener.) You've seen 13 cards thus far, minimum. 85 cards left in library. I'll represent storm count as (sx) where x is count. And mana floating as (Ux, Wx, Rx) respectively. 1. Cast breach, exile 3 for LED. Discard hand for 3 blue. 2 blue and exile 3 for freeze (s3) mill 12. 2. Exile 3, cast LED. Crack for 3 blue, use 2 and exile 3 for freeze (s5, u2) mill 18. 3. Repeat step 2 (s7, u3) mill 24 4. Repeat step 2 again (s9, u4) mill 30. So now you have exiled 30 cards and have 55 in yard. You can loop LED and freeze from here to mill opponents out. (Total of 24 cards are needed for exile. This will mill a total of 306 cards from opponents) Also, you can: Exile 3 for LED, crack for 3 white to cast silence (if needed, I usually do the moment I mill it). Exile 3, cast LED. Crack for 3 red to cast brallin (If needed). Use 2u (u4, w1) and exile 3 to cast ghostly, exile 3 and cast curiosity. Exile 3 for LED, crack for 3u (5u) cast twister. (2u) You have a discard outlet and 37 in library. If that's not enough cards after going through the deck you can exile 6 more for LED and Twister to loop it again. I like this option just cause it's more fun and wins off Brallin, though it's unnecessary. If brallin is draked or anything you have access to you deck, so just bounce him. I took freeze out briefly for similar reasons, and decided to get back on it and haven't looked back! There's also a super niche line of freezing yourself on top of a counter war to mill curiosity if you have breach/sevinne's in hand or want to put sevinne/curiosity in the yard. ***edit*** Someone in the discord just did the math and this combo works with lotus petal too. For budget reasons. You will exile 72 cards to freeze everyone out. They're also making a table for the LED line. They will both be pinned in the Competitive channel on the discord if you care to look!

Also, freeze has some good usage dependant on Meta for top deck tutors. I got to freeze away a doomsday pile on Friday. Felt really nice!

@@Christian-cy9sx Wow this is an awesome write up. storm is just so silly. I think you've convinced me.

I play in a weekly cEDH group and i have been on Dawnwaker Evolution or Advantage Thrasios (whichever ya wanna call it) for months now. I absolutely love the deck but wanted to try something new. I already had most the stuff for Brallin & Shabraz so I picked the rest up and went for the mutate build. Played it with my group last night and loved it!!

Same!

I actually said the same thing on a recent video, and I like the more personal format. Most deck techs are super "power point" like, but this is very personalized, in depth. Its very enjoyable and has a lot of entertainment and attention value .

I 100% agree and I love the deck!

I love that this was the highlighted comment lol. Knew you would comment here. Need to work on this deck myself.

Thank you!! 👉🏻👉🏻

@@PlaytoWinMTG 👉👉👈👈

Oh wow ya I completely forgot about that honestly, that was a big help

I ve seen some lists with lore drakkis and apex of thunder(?) What spells do you combo these with normally

@@NojaboyTalent it's your third layered combo in the decklist, i invited you to read my primer here : www.moxfield.com/decks/97rzAq7pJkS6HcNiDPy10A/Primer

Nope. It reads "Whenever this creature deals COMBAT damage to a player, draw a card.” It won't activate the combo. You could use Keen sense if you play green with curios combo though.

@@wood_carbuncle well shit...

Link?

Do you have a Link?

I don't have a link but it's the same except it's not rocking any of the 100-1500 dollars cards.

I'd really like to see you put a list together.

Liiiiiiist please :)

I think a very passable budget version of this deck can be made. Both commanders, Glinthorn, and the 3 curiousity effects could all be picked up for less the $5 total. From there, the deck is yours. Obviously, it has to be slower, but I think even one that presents a consistent turn 5 or 6 win could be made for less than $150.

Also built this deck cos of you guys, not to the cedh level but still loads of fun

I love it!

That could work! Four mana is a lot

My evaluation of building shabraz (as well the one of most of the guys in the discord server) is that we can’t really race consult decks efficiently since we are a turn slower most of the time (reaching to 8 cards is unexpectedly hard to do in a single turn alongside your winning cards, or if you have a discard outlet you need a 3-card combo). Imo, if your meta is consult heavy, I would go for a stax version, as the commanders can do it really effectively (huge beatsticks under stax provide another angle of attack). Slower builds allow you to reach back up to 8 cards with card advantage engines while being able to control the board through stax and counter magic. In the end of the day, test out and find the conclusion that works best for you!

AresOMegas yeah every deck in my meta is a consult deck lol currently I play Thrasios/Smasher as a bit of anti meta but losing turn 2 to consult sucks or getting out valued with tasigur kinda sucks haha but yeah, I agree with not trying to out speed but slow the game down! I still wanna try this deck out! Looks super fun

If you want a 3rd one, that’s probably the best option! I haven’t really wanted a third one yet

Hey! Welcome, I do not think grim flayer is very good

Thanks! Play to win is best channel of Cedh! Great games and deckbuilding! Congratulations guys!

It's not a good substitution. Echo is overcosted and just simply a bad replacement for twister. If you can't afford twister/don't use proxies use the next best card for the deck rather than a bad substitution.

Nothing is a good sub for twister, but sure that one will do something in the deck for sure

sure did post the wrong link. should be correct now!

Lol no actually, i thought the same thing. it’s the reflection from trucks driving past on my street

Day's Undoing

Echo of Eons

I was thinking in burning inquiry or some of the other mentions of the video

Echo of Eons works wonders, you can cast it for the timetwister cost out of the graveyard, so it’s a great card to discard

Because she didn't meet the minimum power requirement to be in the database

@@xSwitchB1ade I don't think you know what you are talking about. She was there and then was dropped. Her power level is ridiculous... waaaay better than Teshar or Heliod. So,..?

@@iAMtunaFISH I was literally talking to cinestra when he was looking for feedback on which commanders to remove. I agree with you about heliod but hey, they want at least one deck of each color combo and he's the mono white one.

@@xSwitchB1ade it's kinda bs. Because with that logic they might as well remove all UBx decks since they all Thassa's Consult.

@@iAMtunaFISH They're all different decks that attack from different angles. We think Jhoira isn't up to scratch and consistently loses games to top tier pods without much if any resistance. If you think differently, come play on the discords and show Maynard, David and Cinestra that they're wrong.

I don't know why I think this comment is hysterical.