Brand New Tele Boot - Scarpa TX-Pro Redesign (First Look)

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I'm excited to release a detailed "First Look" at the 2024/2025 Scarpa TX-Pro. We go though the redesigned boot, and take note of several major changes. The boot is also tested on the hill, and I discuss some notable first impressions.
Major thanks to ‪@riseoftele‬ for getting me access to these boots. Check out all they have to offer at riseoftele.com
Music: Stellarnaut - Respect

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@alexlimkin7397 4 ай бұрын

Excellent review of these NEW SCARPA BOOTS!! Thanks for putting this out. Hopeful that the release proves to be a big success with the community. -- telemón

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@alexlimkin7397 No Problem, I was very thankful for the opportunity to try them!

@jasonwooden 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review! Dear Scarpa, take my money! 🤑

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@jasonwooden Thanks for your willingness to support the cause!

@touge242 4 ай бұрын

I will be purchasing a pair, off the scarpa store, at full retail. someone has to represent the tele-resistance

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@touge242 YESS! Show them we want more models! :)

@SamWhitlock 4 ай бұрын

lol now I know why I was able to pick up 23/24 model year tx pros for $350 brand new a month ago. Let's hope others who waited unlike me buy this boot so Scarpa keeps making gear for us!

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@SamWhitlock Sounds like you got a pretty good deal! Gotta expand the fleet :)

@zbedr 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the nice presentation, the new scarpa looks very good. positive changes 👍

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@zbedr Thanks for your comment!

@poudreuse8391 4 ай бұрын

Looks great I can hardly wait!

@dzflyrn369 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review!

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@dzflyrn369 Thanks for watching!

@uhavetime2c540 3 ай бұрын

Super cool first look, and i realy like the way you review it...chill style =)

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@uhavetime2c540 Thanks for watching! I try to keep things chill.

@peruvian05152 4 ай бұрын

The instep buckle ratchet is a great reprise.

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@peruvian05152 Yes I agree, Thanks for watching!

@markthomasson5077 4 ай бұрын

Sounds a winner. Of course better if tested with a tech toe binding.

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@markthomasson5077 I don't own any unfortunately... More gear to acquire.

@davemeservy3961 3 ай бұрын

So stoked! Thanks for doing this! Pretty sure you’re the first video review out there and you provide some good info that I haven’t read anywhere else. I would be interested to know how crampons fit with that new shaped tow you described. Also, Im personally glad to hear the bellow feels soft. Thanks again!

@davemeservy3961 3 ай бұрын

all that said, Ill be buying a pair for sure! 😂😂 even with the differing shell size, did you wear the same size in old and new? do you know if sizing is still the same, for example: 27.5 and 28 are same shell?

@nathantaylor5308 4 ай бұрын

Still no return of the heal pin plate for use in AT bindings. I love the fit of my TX Pros especially for ascents. Having one boot that fits well for both Tele and AT is the only way for me. The bellows flex really makes for a nice walking motion. I use the bellows shim and I have never had an issue with the bindings releasing unpredictably. I will hang on to my first gen TX Pros for as long as I can for this reason.

@ericallenraymond 4 ай бұрын

Let us know how the flex feels after more days on the mountain. Every tele boot I've had is a bit wonky until they've been broken in ... and then became smooth.

@SteepDescents 4 ай бұрын

I think that boot ramp angle is from years of hard break in. Catalog photos of the old TX pro look just as flat. Thanks for Sharing!

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@SteepDecents WOAH! I didn't even think about that, you could be totally right!!!! Thanks for the comment!

@JarlBerg 4 ай бұрын

Awesome review...thank you! I must say though...that shop is WAY too clean but does look like a nice space but way cleaner and clutter free than mine. Cheers!

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@JarlBerg HAHA, yeah well, it doesn't always look like that. It is a space in transition currently. Thanks for the watch Jarl!

@thisismatu 4 ай бұрын

Great review! I think the new shape in the front would allow the use of AT style toe bails. Last year i got the Petzl Irvis and the toe bail was too narrow (maybe by 5mm or so) to fit my TX pro's. This hopefully mitigates that issue. Thanks for pointing out the decrease in shell size, wasn't aware of that. Already put in a pre-order for next season!

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@thisismatu That makes sense about them accommodating for AT bindings with the new toe shape.

@chriskovaly6634 3 ай бұрын

Scarpa dropping the ball. Used to have the TX (basically the father of this boot), TX Pro, and TX Comp. Unknown why, dropped the TX. Now they drop the Comp for a 3 buckle sort of Pro? WTF? Guess what: there are a lot of telemark skiers who are into the downhill aspect and don't care much about how it performs for touring. I'd say I'll jump to Crispi, but the do not fit my foot. Great info, thank you for sharing.

@bryanhuseboe539 3 ай бұрын

Cool. Stick with the old one then

@corbyreese 3 ай бұрын

Thank you and thank you, SCARPA! 🙏🏼 No comment on weight? One pound lighter per boot, correct? The 3 vs 4 buckle is interesting. I hope they have good stability. I’m so looking forward to a TX Comp upgrade too!

@jaceenwards8279 3 ай бұрын

This is exciting! Does anyone know if they are going to have replacement parts for these? That mid-strap design is the same as on my older T1s. The cable broke on me last week. I've looked all over and cannot find a replacement.

@user-hr9os8up3x 2 ай бұрын

I bought a tx pro from telemark down new Boston nh. Friggen right bellow creased/ cracked after 9 days. Telemarkdown didn’t want to help out with a material defect. Didn’t even make it out of November with it. They sent me to scarpa directly no help either. Day 18 my left boot had the same crease crack. Best part was dude from telemarkdown told me I needed to learn how to turn. Too bad these boots are so comfortable. Made it to day 70 before both boots bellows completely blew out. Guess I’ll be trying crispi next year. Beware of telemarkdown “customer support “

@cascadetele 2 ай бұрын

@user-hr9os8up3x Wow that's insane. I have not heard of a defect causing this before, and know of many pairs of boots that have made it hundreds and hundreds of days without cracking. What an insult to be told "you need to learn how to turn" when dealing with an obvious manufacturing defect... Like any company, Scarpa can pull strings only if you talk to the right person. I hope you get ahold of someone concerning this problem.

@jeffa7662 4 ай бұрын

The power strap appears to be elastic like Booster Straps are. I believe the Booster patent ran out so many boot manufacturers are moving to this design. I've been running them since the 90's.

@bernardlanguillier7970 3 ай бұрын

Just as I got a new set of TX Pros in January... 🙂

@cascadetele 2 ай бұрын

It’s a good boot! You made a good choice.

@DSpyke24 4 ай бұрын

Thoughts between how this New boot skis in contrast to the COMP. Thanks for the initial comparison and on snow fist impression!

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@DSpyke24 I of course was not able to hold onto the boots in order to break them in fully so I can't fully answer this question either. From my initial impressions of the boot compared to the COMP, the COMP has a much more uniform flex pattern. This means that the bellow and cuff of the boat create a pretty consistent flex as I drop my knee. I can expect a relatively standard stiff feeling from my initial knee drop, to the point where I am fully down. By contrast with the "TX-Pro 2.0" I feel like there is a lot of softness initially, but as I drop the knee further the boot gets progressively stiffer feeling to the point where it actually stops me from dropping my knee further. So it feels both softer and stiffer??? I won't really be able to fully answer this question until I have a fully broken in pair of my own. Hope this helps!

@richardhill194 4 ай бұрын

I've always thought the current tx-comp and tx-pro are too similar. Making the new pro a lighter/3-buckle boot and keeping the comp as a heavyweight/4-buckle boots seams like a smart idea

@JustinBaker2567 4 ай бұрын

The comp is going away next season.

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@richardhill194 I am telling myself SCARPA is waiting to get some testing and feedback on their new boot so they can build an even better COMP, but I might be optimistic.

@hrmckinstry 3 ай бұрын

This boot does not ski the same on piste as the current TXPro and TXComp. The current boots sole "toe rocker"(where the sole flexes) is further back than the new TXPro. This takes away the ball of foot pressure on the rear ski and moves the pressure more up on the toes which takes away from the inside ski inside edge control that the current Pro and Comp gives you in my opinion. This is very noticeable when skiing on piste. Fit of the boot is very similar to the current Pro and Comp, three buckles are plenty. Cuff buckle, booster strap and mid strap buckle are all you need. Range of motion in walk mode is huge reduced weight is nice. Sole is narrower and shorter. A 27 is still a 27. Sole length is 299 vs 307. Large binding is still 27 and up. Skied a few different pairs of the new pro in a 27. My everyday boot is a 27 TXComp. Skied the comp on one foot new pro on the other just for comparison and switched feet. Did the same with the current Pro also. I would say the new pro has a stiffer cuff and the bellows seemed to collapse so were not that stiff. Boot skied well in the Pow and Chunder. On piste was where I noticed the loss of inside ski inside edge control. Had it with the current comp and current pro but not the new pro. My opinion is that the Scarpa needs to move the rocker take off point back to the same spot as the current boots otherwise those that like to pressure the rear ski and have edge control will be disappointed with the lack of performance of the new boot on piste especially. This is not a function of the boot sole being broken in as I skied a pair that was fairly new and another pair that probably has 40 days on them both skied the same. Also skied the previous years white boot and the inside ski inside edge lack of performance was the same. The amount of toe rocker is the same in the comp current pro and new pro. The only difference is where the rocker starts. I ski the Outlawx binding and get about 100 lift serve days/year. Have now skied a pair with a softer tongue. Had better inside ski inside edge control. The softer tongue made a difference. Bellows need to be stiffer so they don’t collapse.

@steinvegarlarsen7078 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for this great review! What about heel tech inserts? With modern teletech setup I really enjoy the flexibility in having a Meidjo heel binding for snowkiting or if the conditions for tele is bad - like very steep and icy conditions. However, only possible so far with my now very old TX Pro with tech inserts.

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@steinvegarlarsen7078 HAHA I never thought about needing to lock your heels for kiting but that totally makes sense! I would love to try that sometime! There is no locking heel technology that is not on the previous generation of the TX-Pro. I think this is mostly done to dissuade people from using the boot with an AT binding that is unsupported under the forefoot and won't stay rigid.

@theskilawyer 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. Are you going to put more days on them and report back once they've broken in? I'm in pro 1.0 with intuition powerwrap. I like the buttery bellows for making quick turns and skiing pow. Sounds like the 2.0 bellows are even softer right out of the box which is surprising. Do you feel that ski control/power is as good with 2.0 with single cuff buckle and powerstrap? I gotta know whether to buy and horde current model. Thanks!

@cascadetele 3 ай бұрын

@thekilawyer I would love to put more days on them and report back, but these boots were only on loan to me for a short period of time. Once I get a pair of my own I will be able to report back. To answer your question I TOTALLY think that the ski control & power transfer with this boot is great. Unknown what the cuffs will feel like when they are broken in, however the new bellows and toe box allow for unparalleled minute ski control with the forefoot, much more than there was in the older boots.

@bryanhuseboe539 3 ай бұрын

@@cascadetele Sounds like a major improvement that kept a lot of us trad 75ml binding skiers from liking most of the NTN system bindings

@theskilawyer 3 ай бұрын

@@cascadetele i have another season in my current TX pro. Hoping they’re good for couple hundred days before significant performance degradation. Stoked that an improved boot is on my horizon. Big issue i have with mine is large gap between cuff and shell near walking mech. My liners get wetted on pow and spring days which leads to liner gripping shell and toe munch. Seriously shitty tolerances in the boot build. Hope the 2.0 solves the problem.

@Tigerstripe40 4 ай бұрын

I'd like to know if they make the interior larger. Scarpa toe boxes fit me beautifully, but the rest of the boot doesn't have enough volume for my feet. I've always wanted Scarpas, but they just don't fit my feet well.

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@Tigerstripe40 I think the toe box in these boots are similar to other Scarpa boots I have seen, but I think it may be slightly narrower mid foot even though it claims the same "last". In my experience, you really need to let the liners mold to your foot before you can really decide if they fit. The liners mold an INSANE amount in the older TX-Pro/Comp. I recently tried some brand new liners in a shell I have skied hundreds of times and was in ridiculous pain mid foot. Idk all our feet are different...

@curtl1694 4 ай бұрын

Howdy, do you think some people will need to upsize to the next shell size since the dimensions changed?

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@curtl1694 I don't think people are going to size up. Its hard knowing what the exact fit is without breaking in the boot and liner, but my guess is most people will be able to get away with minor boot modifications of the same mondo size they used to ski.

@curtl1694 4 ай бұрын

Cool appreciate it!

@redjetsen1002 4 ай бұрын

do a video on how to install pin clip holes to the front of old boots. I'd like to try Meidjo bindings with out buying new boots

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@redjetsen1002 Never heard of this being done, sounds interesting to look into.

@redjetsen1002 4 ай бұрын

I like my old boots so much I found an extra pair so I can try but I want to see others that have tried already before I go drilling and glueing.@@cascadetele

@WildMidwest1 4 ай бұрын

I looked into this two years ago and again last year. Apparently no boot fitter in the US will retrofit boots with tech toes, not even in places like Driggs Idaho nor Avon, CO. The liability is too great. I am guessing part of the issue is that no epoxy or cyanoacrylate glue can hold up to the forces applied to those two points through different temperatures, wet-dry cycles, etc. Over time the metal pieces will work their way free, potentially at the worst possible moment in the backcountry sending you flying off a cliff or into a tree. Aftermarket tech toes are likely fraught with such dangers and frustration even in the hands of a master boot craftsman… but just my guess. Hope I am wrong. If you try it, please let us know.

@juliandewar9502 4 ай бұрын

@@WildMidwest1sounds about right

@rainmaker3700 3 ай бұрын

I have been in the ski industry 30+ years and have been on tele's just as long, but I am starting to notice less and less people on telemark gear. I believe that the cost of all the new NTN gear pricing people out of the sport.

@WildMidwest1 4 ай бұрын

Weight??? As much as I want to support Scarpa’s near-monopoly, I still love my Crispi NTN Evo boots. They’re a little wide for my feet and I get bellows bite if I’m not careful in my turns, but I like having a tech heel (for reasons you may guess and I cannot admit among my tele friends 😊). Crispi’s tech heel puts Scarpa to shame. That said, Crispi’s North American business model is horrible, the shells are heavy, and the liners are low quality. I had mine shipped from Europe last year. Zip-Fit liners work fine in my Crispi NTN Evo boots. There’s some slop between my Zip-Fits and the Crispi shells. It’s fixable with a little Neoprene padding but the slop hasn’t bothered me enough to fix it. Sorry about the Crispi thread-jack. I was asking about Scarpa TX Pro boot weight? Skiers such as Dostie have been asking Scarpa for lighter boots for years and receiving empty promises. I am not dumping on Scarpa, just adding context regarding the weight question. Great Telemark content and prerelease review - subbed. 🎉

@cascadetele 4 ай бұрын

@WildMidwest1 The weight of these boots is about 1462 Grams, V/S 1700 grams for the original TX-Pro of the same shell size. Thanks for watching and subscribing!!!

@WildMidwest1 4 ай бұрын

@@cascadetele Thanks for the quick response. I may have pick some of these up in 1-2 years, versus waiting for the backcountry focused Scarpa boots Dostie was talking about last year - vaporware? his Scarpa fantasy???

@SergeB 4 ай бұрын

@@WildMidwest1 The new TX Pro being 240 grams (half a pound) per boot lighter and drastically increased range of motion IS the tele boot that works for backcountry. Wouldn't you agree?

@bc6881 4 ай бұрын

What size is the last?

@WildMidwest1 4 ай бұрын

@@SergeB I reserve judgment on the new TX Pros. This pre-release review is encouraging but it still looks like a frontside boot. By comparison, Scarpa's F1 (which Dostie modified into a tele boot in one of his videos) weighs 990g in the LT version, up to 1165g in the GT version - both in size 27 per Scarpa's web page. 1462g for an unstated size Scarpa TX Pro may not appeal to dedicated backcountry skiers who are deciding whether to invest in alpine tech versus Telemark gear. And that's not including the major weight difference of AT versus tele bindings. I love my 22 Designs AXL, Outlaw X and Lynx bindings, but none of them comes close in weight to even the cheapest entry level AT bindings. For people doing 8,000 foot winter ascents those weight differences really add up.