Brandon Ingram or Lauri Markkanen to Sacramento Kings?!

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Deuce & Mo: A Sacramento Kings & NBA pod

Deuce & Mo: A Sacramento Kings & NBA pod

25 күн бұрын

Deuce and Mo discuss the Kings pursuing Brandon Ingram and Lauri Markkanen, if they have the pieces to get a deal done and how they'd fit with Sacramento.
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@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
HELP! Hit the like button and sub! Who is more realistic for the Kings: BI or Lauri? Who do you think the Kings end up with this offseason?
@larrygrant829
@larrygrant829 23 күн бұрын
Both are possible and good options but the Pelicans have more need for what we can give, assuming you don't give up Keegan. Zanik is known for his stinginess so Utah will likely ask for Keegs which is a wash and, in my opinion a worse bet. You keep Keegans upside for Markannen's proven offense but baked in mediocrity on D (again assuming Brown and crew can't turn him into a beast, I think there is an uptick but not worth the possible brilliance of Keegs potential, again IMHO). I think Ingram's all-around play and potential improvement under Brown plus the Kings ability to trade extra pieces without giving up Keegan is the better option. BI does cost more though so you open up options with Markannen. Still, I would rather keep Domas at the 5, move Keegs to the 4, BI at 3, Monk at 2 and Fox at the 1, Keon+Carter+Lyles+Len+others off the bench. Lauri set up is him at 5/4, Domas at 5/4, ???Barnes at the 3, Monk 2, Fox 1 and now you are searching for Keegs replacement, so you better have a plan in place. Having said all that long winded crap, if you can keep Keegs with Markannen....yeah, that may work nicely. *edit* (whoops I forgot Barnes in the Markanen deal, hes your 3 if hes not involved in the trade)
@JulianBG
@JulianBG 23 күн бұрын
Both are interested by Warriors as well and since the Klay sign and trade with Mavs and CP3 is as a free agent and PG in 76ers, so right now there is a huge competition for those players and I expect no trade IN.
@briangoodner8680
@briangoodner8680 23 күн бұрын
The basic math that all the “trade Keegan!” Einsteins are missing is that Kings are no better off because you still have the same hole in the roster. Have to keep Keegan and ADD another forward. 1+1= no hole at the 3 or 4. Can’t believe this lapse of logic has to be pointed out.😂
@august7576
@august7576 22 күн бұрын
And people always point to the Haliburton trade like we didn't have a potential all star in Fox on the roster and acquired a 25-year old two-time all star that was a perfect complement to him. The Kings didn't trade Tyrese for CJ McCollum or Bradley Beal or someone that would create some redundancy and keep the same holes on the roster. They used their best young asset at the time to make their team better and enhance both Fox and Sabonis' games. Keegan is not just an expendable young talent on our bench perceived to have some potential like Kuminga or Talen Horton Tucker when he was with the Lakers or something, like he's an integral part of our team that would create a hole if he's moved. I swear people just become intentionally obtuse because they obsess over wanting a trade, any trade.
@rhettclark9703
@rhettclark9703 23 күн бұрын
The better get would be Lauri. Former King Danny Ainge doesn’t lose trades though. Going to the highest bidder only. So it will take a lot. But man, Sabonis & Lauri, what a fit.
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
Oh, man. I would love it but you are so right
@user-bp3es9wb6g
@user-bp3es9wb6g 23 күн бұрын
Portis would be a better acquisition. Great defender and doesn’t need touches. Gives Keegan opportunity to grow more
@thorrrr1962
@thorrrr1962 23 күн бұрын
I dont think keegan can grow anymore. His whole personality is not that of a star on a team, more of a good solid role player.
@Adrian-xu3xi
@Adrian-xu3xi 23 күн бұрын
Bi makes the kings a better team he’ll get Keegan open shots
@briangoodner8680
@briangoodner8680 22 күн бұрын
@@thorrrr1962This take won’t age well.🤔
@OhBenE2
@OhBenE2 23 күн бұрын
I’m just here to keep the podcasters happy.
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
Hahahha yes. SO IMPORTANT
@edbrewington3
@edbrewington3 23 күн бұрын
I trust Monte. He's a shrewd GM who knows he's in a good position and he's waiting for the right opportunity. Since the new CBA, he has the ability to trade the MLE as well. He has a lot of flexibility and that is why he's being patient while other teams who don't have any flexibility will eventually have to release, trade or be force to make some kind of decision.....Monte will be ready to pounce imo.
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 23 күн бұрын
I hope you’re right … another year of doing nothing is the EXACT opposite type of offseason we need right now …
@anthonyhca
@anthonyhca 23 күн бұрын
Trade the MLE? A team can't trade the MLE. They can use it if they are taking on more salary than they can afford..
@edbrewington3
@edbrewington3 23 күн бұрын
@@anthonyhca Also, James says this is why the Kings are sitting back and being patient because they have so many options since trading Davion and Sasha.
@edbrewington3
@edbrewington3 23 күн бұрын
@@anthonyhca What happened to my other response? I put the link but it's gone. Watch ESPN 1320-Sacramento's Sports Leader: The James Ham Show....go to 11:20 minute mark. He explains that a team can now use the MLE in a trade for a player, per new CBA.
@ivandragomiloff2356
@ivandragomiloff2356 23 күн бұрын
You are 💯 correct. Monte will not make a trade just to get a headline and sacrifice the franchise’s future. Monte just has to be patient and find the right deal that makes sense…and it may not be this season. It might be next year. So if all we add to the team is Carter, and other minor trades and free agent signings, I’m ok with it, with Monte looking out for the franchise’s future. It’s a 3-6 year window according to the Kings.
@adamw7290
@adamw7290 21 күн бұрын
Lauri wasn't playing at the end of the last two of those seasons because the Jazz stopped playing him because they were trying to tank, a late tank but tank none the less.
@chirocket4791
@chirocket4791 23 күн бұрын
Ainge is just playing with teams. 5 unprotected firsts just for starters will be his threshold.
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
Totally agree. He's trollin
@michaelwhite4004
@michaelwhite4004 21 күн бұрын
I don't think you're wrong deuce and mo particularly in transition because the kings like to run overall as a whole and unit a overall but you have to keep Keegan Murray .🏀💯
@badnewssourgrapes
@badnewssourgrapes 23 күн бұрын
I'm leaning Markanenn deuce but gonna cost arms & legs not sure if we got enough to get a deal done love me some Danny Ainge but he's tough negotiator
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
What would it take?
@badnewssourgrapes
@badnewssourgrapes 23 күн бұрын
​@@DeuceandMo I'm thinking Keegan Carter 2 first rounders maybe even Deuce & Mo lol but that's where I draw the line hell no you two are off limits much respect to you both keep up the good work 👍
@adamw7290
@adamw7290 21 күн бұрын
Lauri is 7 feet tall and shoots 40% at the three averaging 8 attempts per game, also averaging 8 rebounds a game. He is an All-star and we expect to get him for cheap? Wakeup people!
@Mungo13
@Mungo13 23 күн бұрын
I'd prefer Lauri but I'm just imagining the cost is higher for him
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
Dealing with Ainge scares me.
@tylersilver3957
@tylersilver3957 23 күн бұрын
I would literally do anything for Lauri to me on this team
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
ANYTHING? You'd eat tuna and peanut butter for every meal for the rest of your life?
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
@user-fc3ki3gb7u 23 күн бұрын
I ll eat Tuna without the peanut butter
@djfreshkig8361
@djfreshkig8361 23 күн бұрын
I think the Lauri and BI talk is just a ruse to get Washington nervous. Real target is Kuz. But I likes LM or BI.
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
@user-fc3ki3gb7u 23 күн бұрын
LM & Kyle Kuzman
@anthonyhca
@anthonyhca 23 күн бұрын
I think Keon Ellis is going to be involved in one of these trades.
@Adrian-xu3xi
@Adrian-xu3xi 23 күн бұрын
Watching bi play with Malik would be so fun to watch
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
@user-fc3ki3gb7u 23 күн бұрын
Lauri to the Kings
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
how?
@Mr.Goodguy835
@Mr.Goodguy835 21 күн бұрын
Kings aint getting nobody! Every single rumor has been different and nobody wants to play in Sacramento. We have to draft and continue to build this. Even blowing up this team for future assests is an option. The league is top heavy
@rileykijek6544
@rileykijek6544 23 күн бұрын
The problem with an Ingram trade is that NOP have no interest in salary fillers and picks as a trade package, they need a center, so this would have to be a three team trade that sends Barnes Huerter and picks elsewhere
@jjjscharf8059
@jjjscharf8059 21 күн бұрын
packaging 1st round picks for players on expiring contracts is very risky whether they choose to resign or not. If they choose to resign, we would eventually be facing near-max/max/supermax contracts for Fox, Sabonis, Murray, and Lauri or BI. Not sure that is sustainable. If they choose to leave, you've complicated and constrained the teams future flexibility by including the 1st round picks. In either case, you'd have trade some of the core to avoid the second apron and/or restock 1st round picks. Not a fan of this approach.
@joshromero-burgan9860
@joshromero-burgan9860 22 күн бұрын
Ingram doesn't get the credit he deserves as a playmaker man. According to some metrics behind lebron hes been the best playnaker at the forward spot 2-3 years straight. On top of that when hes healthy theres really not anyone who can clamp him. I know dort did but ingram missed a whole month and went right into that series when he was cleared. Ive seen him work dort numerous times with 30+ pt games. Seen him cook tatum. Brown. Edwards. Bridges all the dudes you can think of as top level wing defenders he has the skill to cook them all. He just needs a real pg. The thought of him playing with fox is crazy. Could elevate his game to a whole new level
@theend1423
@theend1423 23 күн бұрын
How do you compliment a center like Sabonis who doesn't have the length to defend in the post or rim? Add non-rim protectors who will take shots away from Keegan? Are we trying to pair Sabonis with another big who offers nothing on the defensive end? Are we trying to be last in defensive rating next year? Are we trying to win a championship?
@AK-qo6tx
@AK-qo6tx 23 күн бұрын
are you saying that Sabonis has t-rex arms and needs to be traded?
@briangoodner8680
@briangoodner8680 23 күн бұрын
Huh? Kings were 3rd in defensive rating the last 26 games of the year. The best defense is a rebound, not a block, and Sabonis is the best rebounder in the NBA. Mike Brown doesn’t teach blocks because they aren’t a guaranteed turnover, and besides usually going out of bounds, (back to opponents) often also results in a goaltending, foul, or a drive to basket because pump fake gets “rim protector” in the air. Lastly, you help Sabonis by getting perimeter players like Keon and Devin Carter who keep opponents out of the paint to begin with.😉
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
So, whats your solution to put the right pieces around him? Also, part of protecting the rim is defending the perimeter. BI/Lauri have length, too.
@theend1423
@theend1423 23 күн бұрын
@@DeuceandMo The Nets just resigned Claxton. The solution is Day’ron Sharpe. A big who can start along side Sabonis and defend the paint and rim at an elite level. He is just now reaching his prime.
@theend1423
@theend1423 23 күн бұрын
@@briangoodner8680 How did Sabonis do defending an old run down JV in the playoffs last year?
@darren31435
@darren31435 23 күн бұрын
The Kings don’t need any of the “big names” everyone is talking about. They just need a player with a wingspan over 6’11’’ who can hit a jump shot. The Kings lost so many games because they couldn’t defend the 3 point line due to their lack of length. Ask the Clippers how going all in on Paul George worked out. They traded SGA and five picks. Same story in Brooklyn with Harden, Atlanta with Murray, and Phoenix with Beal.
@salvadorfuentes3914
@salvadorfuentes3914 23 күн бұрын
Someone was told me that some injuries with Brandon Ingram past three seasons as to do with Zion Williams and him not getting along at all. It a person in circle I trust. But why is not more on that on reports.
@openmike4559
@openmike4559 23 күн бұрын
Get Ingram, and if something does work out, the kings will still have good assets to work with. Would like to see this move happen.
@cameronestes610
@cameronestes610 20 күн бұрын
This was 3 days ago now and still no news😞
@damianboosh9582
@damianboosh9582 23 күн бұрын
The roster at the moment really just needs a better starting wing put Barnes on the bench just trade huerter
@kevinfernandez8416
@kevinfernandez8416 23 күн бұрын
If Utah tanks again this year, will Lauri really resign with them?
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think thats likely why they are shopping him. They'll go the Nets route
@michaelwhite4004
@michaelwhite4004 21 күн бұрын
​@@DeuceandMo it makes sense plus markken has one more year left on the deal so he basically can fit on any team.🏀💯
@GhettoMagik
@GhettoMagik 23 күн бұрын
Imo there’s no world we could get any of these guys without giving up Keegan. Let’s be serious here haha
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
I think you could for BI
@muhamedcampara3383
@muhamedcampara3383 23 күн бұрын
You definitely can for Ingram
@Bobfrink15
@Bobfrink15 21 күн бұрын
I mean honestly, jeez. Well seee
@JulianBG
@JulianBG 23 күн бұрын
I cannot believe we traded two players and won't get anything. Just cost cuts/cost optimisations.
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
We'll see
@ochocinco8531
@ochocinco8531 23 күн бұрын
A three way works salary wise. Heurter, Keegan to Jazz. Barnes and Walker Kessler to Pelicans. BI and Markkanen to the Kings lol.
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
Give Utah about 5 picks too. You're dealing with Ainge!
@adrianpillai6645
@adrianpillai6645 23 күн бұрын
​@DeuceandMo and we're low on our ability to give up picks unless Ainge accepts: an ice pick, three toothpicks, and a 'pick'leball
@CorporalBetlog
@CorporalBetlog 22 күн бұрын
would love that trade as a BI fan
@EBizz85
@EBizz85 23 күн бұрын
Podcasters happy 😂😂😂😂
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
Hahhaa that got me
@MichaelBaptiste-dy6jm
@MichaelBaptiste-dy6jm 23 күн бұрын
We looking for a fleece..Go Pels!!!
@sledgetammer9167
@sledgetammer9167 23 күн бұрын
If a trade happens, it will be with a team looking to reset and tank for the '25 draft. That is not the Pels. The Jazz, Bulls, Blazers, and Wizards are not good enough to make the playoffs but have good players. Markkanen and Kessler for Murray plus '26 and '27 1st Rounders?
@tomkatalenic7582
@tomkatalenic7582 23 күн бұрын
Air Mcnair
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
@user-fc3ki3gb7u 23 күн бұрын
Lyles if Kuzman is signed . They are the Sacramento Kings power forwards
@SapphicTwist
@SapphicTwist 23 күн бұрын
Random: can someone explain why a guy shooting 41% from 3, 7'1 wingspan, POY and DPOY from Conference USA DOESN'T get drafted? I can't wait to see Isaiah Crawford in the Cal Classic, here's his tape: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtGde5N4xqqdmok.html
@jmdaniel6391
@jmdaniel6391 23 күн бұрын
DFS + Ben simmons for barnes huerter one future 1st and fillers
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
Why?
@jharderway2977
@jharderway2977 23 күн бұрын
@@DeuceandMo😂 sen Bimmons 😂😂😂
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
@user-fc3ki3gb7u 23 күн бұрын
Ben Simmons is not worth signing.
@chillgruber2371
@chillgruber2371 23 күн бұрын
Injury prone is real
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
for both?
@rp2808
@rp2808 23 күн бұрын
Neither. Give me Zach LaVine and Dorian Finney-Smith. You know Finney-Smith is a straight up dawg who will do the dirty work. He’s a communicator on defense which the Kings desperately need. BI nor Lauri will give you that. LaVine will be OP with Sabonis DHOs and Fox playmaking.
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
@user-fc3ki3gb7u 23 күн бұрын
LAURI IS A LEGITIMATE 7FT CENTER. KUZMAN IS 6-9 A LEGITIMATE POWER FORWARD. INGRAM IS SMALL FORWARD AT 6-8. HE CAN BE RESERVE FOR MURRAY
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
RP-your obsession with LaVine is wild considering they re-signed Monk and drafted Carter. He's playing the 3?
@rp2808
@rp2808 23 күн бұрын
@@DeuceandMo it’s not an obsession. I have made the conclusion that he is the ONLY realistic star player the Kings can get considering assets and franchise goals (keeping Keegan). I have already made the projection that Kings aren’t getting that star wing player. Kuzma is also realistic but I know for a fact Monte AND Vivek are star hunting.
@Mike-hf7kd
@Mike-hf7kd 23 күн бұрын
Should of kept davion n so they can add carter to trade packages
@SacUpYall
@SacUpYall 23 күн бұрын
It's been 5 minutes and 2 commercials already
@AB95916
@AB95916 23 күн бұрын
Way rather have Laurie over Ingram
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
how do you get it done though?
@wendelllevares5226
@wendelllevares5226 23 күн бұрын
theres a lot trade rumors for the kings but didnt happen its booring
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
its a long offseason
@adriansanchez6915
@adriansanchez6915 23 күн бұрын
Monte knows we blew games and should be atleast a 50 win team so he will say the pieces are already here so the moves available didn’t make sense blah blah blah
@darrellmerritt3430
@darrellmerritt3430 22 күн бұрын
Keep Ingram hometeam
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 23 күн бұрын
keeping this team as it is would be a complete failure ! Say goodbye to Fox and say hi to the play-ins
@peterspassov2019
@peterspassov2019 23 күн бұрын
Kings are interested in Ingram and Lauri, but both of them are not interested in joining the Kings… sad but true
@Wban23
@Wban23 23 күн бұрын
Hate to say it, Lauri the only one I wouldn’t mind losing keegs for
@BYUBOY33
@BYUBOY33 23 күн бұрын
Sacramento has nothing for the Pels. Pels can find a trade elsewhere.
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
where do you think he lands?
@SacUpYall
@SacUpYall 23 күн бұрын
Not gonna happen
@chirocket4791
@chirocket4791 23 күн бұрын
BI wants a max after this season, not worth a max and will strangle the flexibility.
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
What if he took less?
@novacain943
@novacain943 23 күн бұрын
​@@DeuceandMohe wouldn't be in trade talks if he took less then the max
@HisokaTheClown916
@HisokaTheClown916 23 күн бұрын
Sign and trade Monk for Christian Bruan
@DeuceandMo
@DeuceandMo 23 күн бұрын
What
@gabrielhightower5988
@gabrielhightower5988 23 күн бұрын
Might be the worst thing I’ve ever heard in my life
@badnewssourgrapes
@badnewssourgrapes 23 күн бұрын
Wtf must be a jokester
@donmitchell4027
@donmitchell4027 23 күн бұрын
😂😂💀
@openmike4559
@openmike4559 23 күн бұрын
@@DeuceandModumbfounded. 😅
@unkindguy88
@unkindguy88 20 күн бұрын
Kings = garbage, like these past season. You guys will not even in the play in this season. This comment will age like wine.
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