Good morning (2:07 a.m. HST).

It’s good to hear from someone in the Old Seadog’s home port. 👍

Or try maybe learning how to sail?? Crazy!! I know.

A Dog on a boat is more than wrong. except you wanna eat it. Think about! May be you get an Idea how to treat creatures the right way MusicMike the dumbest ive ever seen.

IF you're going to do something like that; dynamic lines/rope would probably be best.

I think the problem with just adding lines there gets a point where one line is the shortest and then the whole strain goes to that line (like picking a lock). Just spring lines and breast lines is best. That way no one line is holding the whole boat.

I second leaving slack and using spring lines, the boat has to be able to move

Thanks for the tip!

That's because Garret knows how to sail. Because idealism was the key factor. No. Don't go learn how to sail! What a waste of time that would be??!! While you're building a sailboat??? I would've been sailing EVERY WEEK!! Not my channel.

Agree with the safety lines from forward to the stern. Clip on BEFORE leaving the cockpit in any kind of rough weather. this is especially true as you don't have guard rails. I always rigged my spring lines from the transom forward and the bow aft crossing in the middle. the bow and stern lines are then used to keep the boat close in. It does need long spring lines though.

Thanks for the recommendations!

It can be, but it doesn’t take much to add degrees of complication and it’s a matter of having an organized, thoughtful, and clean installation, which Satchel did with great care!

Poetic.

Or maybe Steve will be like Lieutenant Dan on Forrest Gump up the mast in a storm cursing god.

Sorry 3 things and hope my words are the good one.?????

Obviously I am not Steve, but my profession is in the hearth industry doing sales, installs and service. The reasons why you would want to use single wall over double wall is that you actually get more heat off of the stove that radiates from the stove pipe. That is why it is very commonly used in hunting cabins, off grid living or boats like this. Also, a lot of woodstoves that are older like this one are not compatible with double or triple wall pipe. Also, B-vent is not to be used with solid fuel burning appliances such as wood or pellet/biomass. That is defined in the NFPA 211 US national codes and standards.

@@Zeekstuff, it’s not a wood stove, it’s a diesel heater.

@@johnnunn8688 and heat from a wood stove differs from a diesel how? Do you think a tonne of feathers is lighter than a tonne of stone?

@@johnnunn8688 okay, I got the fuel type wrong. It is still not approved for B-Vent because the exhausts exceeds the macimum 500 F limit. For what is classified as a "oil fired" appliance, it would have to be stainless single wall venting or what is known as L-Vent which is double wall which both are ridged and not flex. Having a single wall in there not only cuts costs but also has the same radiant heating benefits I described earlier.

⁠@@Zeekstuffmacimum? Maximum?

I think Akiva would have a better life on land

That dog has a very restricted life on the boat. It should not be kept on the boat.

To me this damage is a "bad strategy" problem not a "bad weather" or "bad boat" problem. Had they just left the boat tied to the dock as usual I think they would have been fine. That said maybe moving the midship cleats onto deck instead of on the rail itself isn't a bad idea? It would definitely make them stronger.

Totally agree. Also pays to watch where fishing boats anchor when bad weather strikes. Working skippers tend to know where the bottom holds best in any given situation in their patch. I once helped salvage a beached and badly holed yacht whose skipper figured he knew better.

I disagree, Nigel, there are times when you simply cannot afford to be making contact with the dock. There might be overhanging ledges to get caught under, rusty or broken steel projections (bolts left behind when pilings or cappings rotted or broke away), ladders, protruding cranes to "interact" with the shrouds or spreaders, even sharp shellfish to mince your fenders - or any of an unlimited number of other traps. Springing away from a windward dock is a valid strategy in such cases, but this clip provides a useful demonstration of a couple of the (great many) things which can go wrong. The key lesson, I think, is that contrary to what a person new to sailing would expect, the failure was in the lines which (in static terms) see no load, and even in this dynamic case, (wave action being the problem) they see no direct loading from the wind. It is the kinetic energy imparted by the waves (and less importantly, by variations in wind strength) to the mass of the hull which broke that toe rail. In this case, two lines were angled and one was perpendicular, meaning there was not even sharing of loads. It would have been better to have all the leeward lines at a similar angle off the perpendicular, and an even number of lines, all of similar length, half angled ahead, and half angled astern. Even outside those times, as a bare minimum, you need one or two fender boards, and if the cleats ashore are not strong, you need to double or triple each line and tie off to multiple points ashore. Finally, the structural design at the point of the toerail which broke might be strong enough for spring lines, but clearly not for breast lines.

@@northlandrider5396 Perhaps you missed the fact that the fishing boats were not constrained by draft in the way Arabella was? She was perfectly safe where she was, and the line whose attachment failed was clearly not crucial. Per my other post, I personally feel the detailed execution of the strategy and the detail of the boat structure were the only problems with the choice Steve made.

@@Gottenhimfella - "there are times when you simply cannot afford to be making contact with the dock". - That is why you have suitable fenders deployed. Maybe this is a 'different sides of the ditch' issue - I would never teach anyone to run lines across to the other side of a bay in that way - apart from anything else think of the possible carnage if someone was trying to get in to moor late at night in the dark in adverse weather conditions.

This I thought also. Condensed water under the cold deck will enter the end grain and rotten is soon the result. All your cut openings lack this.

A double wall pipe would help too

*- Yup, "straight through the opening".* *- My construction/rigging/physics instinct would want serious cleats screwed/bolted to stout deck framing...attached to the diagonal brass rib strapping anchored into the keel...if I correctly recall this boat's build for storm anchorage.*

Happy tomorrow, friend! Thanks for watching.

Merry Christmas to you, too.

Those are neat gadgets but as you mention, the lead would make the difference. -Anne

@@AcornToArabella I have used a breast anchor on more than one occasion when there was no suitable structure available to leeward to hold me off a dock to windward, in cases where wave action -- and/or nasty dock features such as protruding rusty bolts -- meant contact with the dock was not an option. My preference is not to cleat it off but to lead it over a big roller (a large "anti friction ring" could be improvised from suitable raw materials, but in my case I happened to be carrying a very large metal sheave snatch block as used on trawlers which I had repaired for a mate) and have a large weight on the other end of the line. In my case, the anchor had about a 6m shot of heavy chain, which I simply turned most of into a very heavy multistrand chain, by judicious use of short lashings. The resulting weight was hung below the leeward topsides of the boat, in the water, to keep the breast rope tight. The closer the boat came to the dock, the more chain lifted off the bottom. The snatch block was also underwater, to provide a flat scope for the anchor. Someone I knew who did this regularly on his own exposed dock, used what used to be called a "flopper stopper" in lieu of a weight. This is like a flat sieve on steroids, suspended in the water from four or six lines equispaced around the ring (it's a bit like an upside down tambourine, with a heavy metal mesh instead of a skin, and lines attaching where the little cymbals go on a tambo). His was about a metre in diameter with a galvanised steel rim and mesh. A rubber circle lay on top of the mesh, cut into four quadrants like petals so that the water would flow freely upwards allowing the device to keep the breast line taut whenever it tried to slacken, but there was a "check valve" effect where the petals slapped shut on the mesh the moment the boat moved towards the dock and the line began to tighten again. This provided a resistance force in proportion to the speed of motion, like a vehicle's shock absorber, which is exactly what is wanted. At no point does the line stop paying out, provided the rope is a suitable length for the situation. Unwieldy to stow, but much lighter to deploy, and has a nicer action than the weight I mentioned above and have personally used. The weight is a pain if there is much of a tidal range, but the sieve is fine with a large tidal range as long as it can be kept off the bottom at low tide. His remained rigged all season, hung below a buoy situated a suitable distance from his dock so it could be easily picked up whenever he returned to it.

In German it is called "Sollbruchstelle". But ive to say- i dont like "Sollbruchstellen " on Boats

We’ve got a good amount of chill here.

@@AcornToArabella 👌😂👌

Happy Friday!!

Idealistic. Plain and simple. Never took the time to learn. He climbed rocks when he should've been sailing. That's just mind numbing. Why would you EVER build a very substantial sailboat without learning to sail??!! Hope they stay in shallow water and wear life vests. Hope Akiva has one as well. I'm mortified. Please bring them good weather. I wouldn't step foot on that death trap. I pray that they are safe.

wohl wahr! @@dwaynekoblitz6032 its kinda child behaviour to sail the world in a paperbox and a crap load of shit.. Atlantic i am comming! His last famous words.

​@@dwaynekoblitz6032he's living life. He'll learn and be fine.

@@dwaynekoblitz6032 wow. really. I've been cruising for decades. I own and live aboard what's arguably the most robust short-handed circumnavigation boat ever made. I'd gladly sail with Steve on arabella. He's too classy to respond to your comment so i did.

It was never finished

Happy Friday!