Breaking‼️Arome Osayi Finally Attacked Pastor EA Adeboye & Pastor WF Kumuyi🤦🏻‍♂️(From The Archives)

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23 күн бұрын

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@truthnlove-thechurch
@truthnlove-thechurch 21 күн бұрын
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@OnorierhuvwuVwegba
@OnorierhuvwuVwegba 15 күн бұрын
Pls truth and love. It's Enough, allow Apostle Arome be. So d devil will not sow seed of hatred in ur hrt. Allow God to take over. U attack on him is much. Pls leave him, let love lead.
@IreritemDavidOfere
@IreritemDavidOfere 16 күн бұрын
It's laughable😂 how people find it so difficult to understand Apostle Arome Osayi❤❤❤ Arome is the very great gift we have always prayed for to come ❤
@victorebegbuna4860
@victorebegbuna4860 11 күн бұрын
What's there to understand, what's complicated about what he's saying? Let all preachers focus on preaching Jesus and leave others alone. There is no scriptural backing for what he is doing. The Bible even says Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. warned against Judging another man's servant
@S-kay14
@S-kay14 7 күн бұрын
@@IreritemDavidOfere So his calling is to crucify people? Let him who is without a blame cast the first stone,if he started his church during COVID-19, would he say this?
@S-kay14
@S-kay14 7 күн бұрын
You're just gullible, that's all 😆😆
@seuna.8438
@seuna.8438 2 күн бұрын
Apostle Arome spoke in plain English. We understood him. He said Pastor Kumuyi said, every family must have a member in his Church. Did he actually say that? I think Pastor Kumuyi was even humble revealing where he learned some management skills. Some leaders hide their sources to look like they are the creators of those skills. Whether you like it or not, you need some management skills to lead a big Church. You are leading humans, not spirits. Some of these skills are just normal interpersonal relationship skills that apply everywhere, both secular and in the Church. I see no problem if Pastor Kumuyi picks some lessons from Coca-Cola, so far the skills he picks align with the word of God. For example, acknowledging your first-timers in Church. It's not a Church thing. It is a normal interpersonal relationship skill that when you see someone for the first time in your company/organization/house, you need to acknowledge the person and make him feel welcome.
@victorebegbuna4860
@victorebegbuna4860 2 күн бұрын
@@seuna.8438 Apostle Arome was trying to fault the idea of following same principles as that of Coca-Cola and thats where he is at fault.
@willyWilliams2079
@willyWilliams2079 4 күн бұрын
I have been a member of Rccg under Adeboye and I tried to leave a holy life and it was impossible for me. I have listen to Apostle Arome Osaya on KZfaq alone and I can receive the fire to be holy. We don't need fathers by tittles but there is no transformation in their services. What is Apostle Arome Osaya is doing is good for our generation
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 4 күн бұрын
Paul planted,Apollo watered and God gives the increase. The fact that by God's grace his message opened your understanding to certain part of scripture doesn't make him extraordinary. If people are to criticize his messages just like he's doing. He'll not have the boldness to even mount the pulpit again. Because whatever you say someone won't agree with you.
@emmanuelelendu7695
@emmanuelelendu7695 17 күн бұрын
May we not neglect and despise the labor and contributions of these father.. Father!! Help my generation.
@estherusman1009
@estherusman1009 17 күн бұрын
Same way you are have been holding the elders that destroyed Nigeria all in the name of they've laboured. Since you don't want change why you complaining about how Nigeria is,you want people to be in your cage forever? No way Mr tithes monger's
@victoriamomoh1891
@victoriamomoh1891 15 күн бұрын
We need to pray for pastor Arome. Even if he better than these Father, he should allow God to announce him.
@NurseN.G
@NurseN.G 10 күн бұрын
HE IS BETTER????WHO MADE U JUDGE, WHO KNOWS GOD'S MIND?
@ogunmolugift8549
@ogunmolugift8549 15 күн бұрын
Hmm,what I have discovered is everyone has his own calling and the way God deals with everyone differ.
@emmanuelmichael8412
@emmanuelmichael8412 21 күн бұрын
These attacks by leaders in the church has not only affected the church in Nigeria but it has also affected Nigeria as a whole.
@famousjoel2941
@famousjoel2941 15 күн бұрын
@@emmanuelmichael8412 how?😏
@jamesjesus5772
@jamesjesus5772 21 күн бұрын
Can people just leave Apostle Arome to do what he's called to do? As a matter of truth, he's giving this generation a lot that we'd never have had.
@kimuliedrisa3010
@kimuliedrisa3010 21 күн бұрын
So let him mislead church? Seems Arome talks more than he thinks 😢. His problem is self righteousness and arrogance. We thank Joe for really exposing this guy.
@mylesmulenga-uz6gd
@mylesmulenga-uz6gd 21 күн бұрын
Nobody was called to criticize and attack other ministers of the gospel.
@shemkarim7558
@shemkarim7558 21 күн бұрын
And what he's called to do is to talk against father's? Any preacher that is called to fight other preachers or father's is not of God! God is too balance to allow such error
@Porshegroup
@Porshegroup 21 күн бұрын
Leave him to talk nonsense
@kimuliedrisa3010
@kimuliedrisa3010 21 күн бұрын
@@Porshegroup he is toxic.
@idowuadebayo1843
@idowuadebayo1843 20 күн бұрын
God can use any means to bring wisdom and divine ideas to His sent people. Jethro gave prophet Moses idea that change his ministry..
@chitalusiame7161
@chitalusiame7161 17 күн бұрын
@@idowuadebayo1843 I like the Jethro example used.
@FAVOUREKEOMA-ch8sw
@FAVOUREKEOMA-ch8sw 16 күн бұрын
sir, what I will comment here: let us pray for the body and please let your content always build the body. the Lord help us
@notmygodsown4106
@notmygodsown4106 21 күн бұрын
But sometime when i see arome doing this things to fathers somethings am happy cus when he was doing it to God servant prophet tb joshua alot of this fathers never cautiou him they feel what's doings is the right things but now is taking them one after the other and abel damina is also there taking him too. And that's why we should believe that this world is in round shape.
@user-nx4fk1ly4d
@user-nx4fk1ly4d 18 күн бұрын
You have a point
@misidee
@misidee 18 күн бұрын
@@notmygodsown4106 hmmm…so it’s all about tit-for-tat, eye for eye, tooth for tooth?
@emmyblessed
@emmyblessed 11 күн бұрын
​@@misideeI wonder o
@abifarinbukola7882
@abifarinbukola7882 7 күн бұрын
TB what? Is like you live outside Lagos.. TB Joshua has been commiting attrocities in Lagos since 90s I just wonder how gullible Christians waited for BBC to tell them... Who even told you TB Joshua was a Christian?
@kayodeoladele5288
@kayodeoladele5288 3 күн бұрын
@@user-nx4fk1ly4d
@Kirchoff7
@Kirchoff7 19 күн бұрын
Didn't Jesus say go into ALL the WORLD and make disciples of ALL MEN teaching them whatsoever I have commanded you?? If we don't get to point where we can disciple ALL MEN have we not failed the great commission?? Indeed Jesus had 12 disciples but those 12 were commissioned to go and make MORE disciples!! Did he not make them FISHERS OF MEN?!? So if we have men of God today who have managed to disciple thousands, isnt that the way to go?? Why not learn from them?? This is SAD!!
@biggergreatness157
@biggergreatness157 11 күн бұрын
Everything Apostles Arome said is 💯 percent facts
@ahiomim7249
@ahiomim7249 18 күн бұрын
learn to discern the hearts of men as they talk. you are to examine all what u see and hear by the light of God's word
@arnoldkalemela5078
@arnoldkalemela5078 21 күн бұрын
He didnt attack our father EA Adeboye
@nnamdiazuakola5254
@nnamdiazuakola5254 21 күн бұрын
So explain. What did he do?
@arnoldkalemela5078
@arnoldkalemela5078 21 күн бұрын
@@nnamdiazuakola5254 thats what we call imposition.. having such mentality we can never hear the voice of God through his servants.. if thats an attack then its also an attack to our fathers of faith in our country East Africa who are doing very well and have alot of crowd. Go listen his whole sermon you will understand me
@S-kay14
@S-kay14 7 күн бұрын
So who said "Every member of his each family,must be his church member".
@charitysimon-peraboh5555
@charitysimon-peraboh5555 14 күн бұрын
Honestly I have never heard this until watching this video from Arome, I respect his grace and ministry but he err, the Bible says who are to judge another man's servant? Is he the one that called them? That's unacceptable
@endtimerevival658
@endtimerevival658 21 күн бұрын
So shameful, Fathers are to be honored and respected wether they are wrong or Right, He should wait till he grows for sure.
@truthnlove-thechurch
@truthnlove-thechurch 21 күн бұрын
Truth💯
@estherusman1009
@estherusman1009 17 күн бұрын
See slavery mentality, henceforth don't ever talk on Nigerian government and our Old leaders or else your generation will pay for this hypocrisy
@therabbitv676
@therabbitv676 20 күн бұрын
May God help this man I am very sure many of you can not do half of what this generals has done.
@estherusman1009
@estherusman1009 17 күн бұрын
Which general's,you mean those who enrich themselves with tithes and offerings, keep slavering 😅😅
@akanbioluwapelumia.3355
@akanbioluwapelumia.3355 16 күн бұрын
@@estherusman1009 I pray the veil on your eyes fall of in Jesus name 🙏
@estherusman1009
@estherusman1009 16 күн бұрын
@@akanbioluwapelumia.3355 I'm from deeper life, born and raised there,you don't know anything
@Kingniyi
@Kingniyi 14 күн бұрын
Who are general and Sergent with scripture back up
@MrAchare
@MrAchare 10 күн бұрын
They are pastors. He is an apostle. So God deals with him better than them. Pride. He would have gone to them personally before coming to display his ignorance because he handled microphone
@Moneyland001
@Moneyland001 21 күн бұрын
Joe you need to hold a live video for us to pray for him and all other minister together. I think as a gift to the body of Christ when you hit 100k. You can hide your face bro.
@oyeniranemmanuel9532
@oyeniranemmanuel9532 21 күн бұрын
God knows his true sons & daughters... It's only when we get to heaven we'll know who was actually speaking the truth ❤
@johnoluwafemi3162
@johnoluwafemi3162 18 күн бұрын
It's well... May God help us all At the end we'll alk stand before the one that sent us on errand
@lekan626
@lekan626 5 күн бұрын
Honestly, if he was referring to the Aged Papa Kumuyi and Papa Adeboye, I'm afraid of what's going on in the body of Christ. It seems young apostles, pastors, and prophets today now have the ministry of correcting fathers, grandfathers, and forefathers of the faith, and that in public. Next generation ministers will be bluntly rude, I'm afraid.
@randlejoseph4825
@randlejoseph4825 2 күн бұрын
When we all stand before our Master JESUS we will all know whose works are acceptable
@Elishatheconduit
@Elishatheconduit 20 күн бұрын
How can we hear the full appeal that Daddy G. O. was making at the beginning?
@Heneyens
@Heneyens 21 күн бұрын
I feel like most pastors and apostles arę building cults not a church that will stand till the end of time
@therabbitv676
@therabbitv676 20 күн бұрын
@@Heneyens God is able to keep his church to the end.
@michaeljoshua2154
@michaeljoshua2154 18 күн бұрын
​@@therabbitv676Amen! People always talk down on Churches forgetting they're the bride of Christ.
@terryezekielokoh5584
@terryezekielokoh5584 6 күн бұрын
Generally the Church in Nigeria is actually having serious problem beyond what we are seeing now. Let us pray for the church in Nigeria. Too much hypocrisy.
@puletau3664
@puletau3664 21 күн бұрын
Joseph my brother this new generation is erratic to the core. Especially the Apostles.. Not all though. This know it all mentality and lack of respect to seniority is going to be our biggest downfall
@betrandottia64
@betrandottia64 21 күн бұрын
Sometimes when we become advocate for correction, we should be rest assure that we are creating another scene in the future, thesame mannar you use to correct Fathers, you are raising a generation that will correct you tomorrow, their Sons are coming. He who has ears let him hear
@truthnlove-thechurch
@truthnlove-thechurch 20 күн бұрын
Truth
@estherusman1009
@estherusman1009 17 күн бұрын
But you want change in the way Nigeria is being governed? You are a joker. When this so call tithe monger's change and do the wright thing things will definitely change in our country,but so long as they there's no difference between them and the politicians,sis revolution is coming in the body of Christ
@ayodejiakindulu4888
@ayodejiakindulu4888 13 күн бұрын
Wisdom is profitable to direct. Guard your heart.
@Moneyland001
@Moneyland001 21 күн бұрын
God help us
@bolarinwaadewale4367
@bolarinwaadewale4367 9 күн бұрын
It is well. The Lord will grant us an understanding of the love of Christ and the effect of our public comments on the weak and upcoming Christians. When we fight and bring ourselves down, will Jesus be ever glorified in that?
@elishaoluwafemi1982
@elishaoluwafemi1982 9 күн бұрын
What do you mean by being young in the ministry? Everything the pastor said is true. Nigerian Christianity is a mile wide but an inch deep because we have multitudes and inordinate affection for numbers but few disciples that can shape their world.
@Gracehouse123
@Gracehouse123 18 күн бұрын
God help the body of Christ
@OluwafemiOsunseyi
@OluwafemiOsunseyi 14 күн бұрын
We just need to pray for the body of Christ.All these are the trick of the devil to pull the church down.Thebody does not need to divide one another,we are not to jugde other but rather preach the gospel and let them follow you.Attacking these fathers who have done so much to spread the gospel in the body is too bad.allow God to correct them,not for anyone to condemn.God show mercy
@charleschali9994
@charleschali9994 20 күн бұрын
But truth is truth age in the spirit is not what you think it is in the physical
@user-nx4fk1ly4d
@user-nx4fk1ly4d 18 күн бұрын
Be careful sir
@dimejib.3823
@dimejib.3823 17 күн бұрын
Be careful sir
@emmanuelaladeloye
@emmanuelaladeloye 5 күн бұрын
What is truth about that? Did you see David ever insult king Saul all because God had departed from him in the Scriptures? The problem of the younger generation of ministers is that they don't use the systematic study of the word. They just talk and talk. When you preach or teach like that, you are bound to fall into errors. Line must be upon line . Here a little and there a little which will give a balanced message, Isaiah 28:10. Jesus said the children of this world are wiser in there generation. Therefore, be wise like a serpent but be gentle as a dove. Meaning. that Jesus recognized that the secular people are wiser than the believers. So, learn their wisdom while you maintain your righteousness. Nothing sinful about the model of Coca- Cola to learn from. Apostle Arome is just exhibiting zeal and not knowledge.
@dimejib.3823
@dimejib.3823 5 күн бұрын
@@emmanuelaladeloye YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT SIR. ANCIENT WISDOM OF GOD IS SPEAKING THROUGH YOU
@martinkasanda222
@martinkasanda222 12 күн бұрын
This message is for a long time apostle can't attack fathers
@JosephKaoma-rf1ib
@JosephKaoma-rf1ib 12 күн бұрын
Lets pray for Arome and Abel its getting hotter for the charlatans
@S-kay14
@S-kay14 7 күн бұрын
Everyone has different assignment from God,
@elojoe
@elojoe 17 күн бұрын
In the acts of the apostle, the do have service every day, and often from morning till evening.
@iyebiyefuji3370
@iyebiyefuji3370 15 күн бұрын
Acts.2.46 - And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, So, to answer your question, they did have service daily
@elojoe
@elojoe 15 күн бұрын
@@iyebiyefuji3370 i seriously don't know what is wrong with having more than one service in a day.... Jesus had a service for 3 days in a wilderness with the same people... thousands of people for that matter!
@victoriamomoh1891
@victoriamomoh1891 15 күн бұрын
I actually respect pastor Arome but I think he didn't listen to pastor Kumuyi very well
@Jerry_Malambri
@Jerry_Malambri 9 күн бұрын
You are right
@ogunmolugift8549
@ogunmolugift8549 15 күн бұрын
Hmm,what I have discovered is everyone has his own calling and the way deals with everyone differ.
@KongnyuElvis
@KongnyuElvis 21 күн бұрын
This sermon is not against Papa Kumuyi and Papa Adeboye
@truthnlove-thechurch
@truthnlove-thechurch 21 күн бұрын
Ok lol
@elojoe
@elojoe 17 күн бұрын
What other man of God talked about coca cola?
@dimejib.3823
@dimejib.3823 17 күн бұрын
I really respect Apostle Arome but am really disappointed with this approach. He will make his followers look down on fathers.hmmmmm IT'S REALLY NOT GOOD
@dimejib.3823
@dimejib.3823 17 күн бұрын
Jesus is not HAPPY WITH THAT SERMON. I Know this
@felixakpojivi2869
@felixakpojivi2869 16 күн бұрын
I love Arome
@emmyblessed
@emmyblessed 11 күн бұрын
Please mr truth and love do you know how many churches are in each state in Nigeria alone and still there is weed smokers and prostitution in every one of them ?and yet in Jerusalem's chuch it was not so i don't think you understand his burden😢
@AliceNakaswa
@AliceNakaswa 20 күн бұрын
John the baptist was baptized with the Holy Spirit in his mother's womb, but now if tgis happens in the current era, Arome and group will rush up and down insulting
@TJT12
@TJT12 21 күн бұрын
To us who like before watching 😅😅
@seunpeter7133
@seunpeter7133 16 күн бұрын
All of get time even the 70 following Jesus left at a time. and it remains 12
@FriendsofSCOAN
@FriendsofSCOAN 16 күн бұрын
To those of you who don't spend enough time to study your Bible, I'd advise you all to read what Apostle Paul says about false teachers. In his epistles, Apostle Paul provides several warnings and descriptions regarding false teachers within the Christian community. These characteristics are outlined in various letters, such as those to Timothy, Titus, and the Galatians. I want you to know that Arome Osayi meets most of those characteristics.
@Amaslfield
@Amaslfield 13 күн бұрын
@@FriendsofSCOAN He doesn't fit into the narrative you highlighted. We really need to access our believes. Apt. Arome preaches the Bible. Will you condemn Paul for criticizing Peter?
@evang_ook
@evang_ook 7 күн бұрын
​@@Amaslfield Paul was wrong to criticize Peter openly, though Peter didn't pick offense because he was well mature spiritually and a Father to them all as The G.O. Paul was naive, overzealous and immature at that time. He also had sharp disagreement with his mentor Barnabas but later he became mature in dealing with elders. There are more constructive way to correct others and the same Paul wrote: do not rebuke an Elder- when he become an Elder.
@Amaslfield
@Amaslfield 7 күн бұрын
@@evang_ook you're right but there too many wrongs. I practically feel this is a word to his congregation and not to criticize any one. I am a RCCG member I have heard baba talked about some so called men of God. Apt Arome is focused on the word unlike others that throws unreasonable attack on themselves.
@mbankezikelvin6698
@mbankezikelvin6698 16 күн бұрын
When you say "finally" is it that you were expecting it? Honestly ehh truth n love the church. You are offtrack. You always create misleading contents and very poor captions
@R0b3rt_-
@R0b3rt_- 21 күн бұрын
Joe your research is far deeper. I respect you 😂😂😂😂. You bring receipts
@truthnlove-thechurch
@truthnlove-thechurch 21 күн бұрын
Always 💯
@hustlehardproperties658
@hustlehardproperties658 21 күн бұрын
​@@truthnlove-thechurchdon't stop brother joe
@BenTobin-bj2ni
@BenTobin-bj2ni 21 күн бұрын
😢 it is very sad when we listen to messages with our ears instead of our Spirit . Brother I really appreciate your work here 🙏. But please let's not side word to word but we should always go for the message not the full sermon. What is the message here? Apostle Arome didn't attack or criticise Fathers , He had a message which he Wanted to communicate. Sighting them as an instance doesn't mean he is against Thier work or Thier work is wrong . Let me try and throw more light what I think Apostle Arome wanted to communicate. If you are a good reader of the Bible which I know you are. You will notice that the first message the disciples preached was Repentance. Now Question here? After Repentance what else In short The Fathers Generation is different from Our Current Generation. And it is always a build up of knowledge from the old knowledge.
@MentorsAndFathers
@MentorsAndFathers 21 күн бұрын
Bro before watching the video I was like "calm down brother Joseph" but after watching it I knew categorically that it was directed to one of them and it was based on insufficient information. Wrong or right don't criticize fathers period!
@truthnlove-thechurch
@truthnlove-thechurch 20 күн бұрын
@@MentorsAndFatherstruth💯
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 4 күн бұрын
Apostle Arome was too emphatic on his statement. He pastor Kumuyi is gathering crowd. Very ridiculous isn't it.
@lovebtc1511
@lovebtc1511 21 күн бұрын
I’m baffled 😮
@MsOnyinyechukwu
@MsOnyinyechukwu 3 күн бұрын
But Apostle Arome spoke the truth. In fact he has won me over by this.
@user-os6ex2fq7i
@user-os6ex2fq7i 3 күн бұрын
Did you really listen and understand the dialogue between the pastor from Nigeria and the counselor . The counselor asked Nigerian some questions and the response he got made him (counselor) change the counseling to changing of ideas.
@davidben1154
@davidben1154 9 күн бұрын
The “Coca Cola” story sha😂😂 3:50
@nnamdiemma4657
@nnamdiemma4657 16 күн бұрын
You need for God to heal your heart.... You have hurt and bitterness towards Apostle Arome.... You have really lost it.... I am not saying that Apostle Arome was right in this case but that was years ago... Over 10 tears ago he said that and you are just bringing it up to cause issues in the body You should repent... I am sure Apostle Arome won't say all those things now he has grown and you cropped the main video because people will see how young he was there and querry you You should truly submit your heart to the Holy Spirit to heal you because you are treading a wrong path I know Apostle Arome has issues.... I am not endorsing him either ... I pray for him .. we have one goal for God's sake.... Depopulation of Hell .... Why should we fight each other ??
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 15 күн бұрын
He just didn't speak well, we all had to accept that
@agnessululi6698
@agnessululi6698 15 күн бұрын
1 Timothy 5:1 [1]Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 15 күн бұрын
There was nothing to rebuke at all. Having listened to what the pastors said. It is either he wants to say he knows too much or he has no message to preach. I'm highly disappointed in him for this criticism of Fathers.
@HeavenlyChapter
@HeavenlyChapter 2 күн бұрын
We must understand what apostle arome is saying, discipleship is more higher then just gathering people, i am a redeem member and i can tell you under redeem it is only few pastors that are making impact and understand that church is about discipleship not having too much people in church that are spiritual babes, apart from daddy adeboye and some few pastors i can identify that understand this things, the rest still don't understand this, i can tell as someone who has been under redeem for long
@temifavour926
@temifavour926 17 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, many are not sensitive and understand the signs of end time nor have understanding the time like men of Issachar... So many boys in ministry are now springing with all determination to be condemning all the gospel of our for fathers. Devil has raised of pastors, apostles or Bible teachers to now be busy listening to other pastors teachings and be condemning all they do. Was is it like this before? please be sensitive... God is ever faithful ❤
@TJT12
@TJT12 21 күн бұрын
The audacity to attack such men kaai😢😢😢
@user-mt7df9xs4w
@user-mt7df9xs4w 17 күн бұрын
Brother is anyone above the bible or above Christ so if not don't bring men above the word sir or Christ who is the true general overseer of the true church
@seuna.8438
@seuna.8438 2 күн бұрын
There is no crime in correcting people, but just quote them correctly. Pastor Kumui never said every family must have a member in his Church. I don't have a problem with Pastor Kumuyi picking some skills from Coca-cola, so far they align with the word of God. Arome should have asked, what did he pick from Coca-Cola cos if he actually applied all Coca-cola skills in Deeper Life, I doubt if his Church would be modest. What Arome does not understand is some skills apply to both secular and the Church. You are leading human beings in the Church, not Spirits. That's where some men of God failed. They thought they were leading Spirits and don't have some normal interpersonal relationship skills. They don't greet their members, they don't smile or have normal human chat with them, the word "please" is never in their statements. For example, welcoming first-timers. It's not a Church thing. It applies to every organization, both Church and secular. If you see someone for the first time in your company/organization/house, acknowledge them by greeting, and make them feel welcome.
@PELSammy
@PELSammy 4 күн бұрын
What he said is true just that he's not doing it at the right time, Read the book of Joel 2
@peterliman6968
@peterliman6968 21 күн бұрын
When we see him attacking fathers we should forget about him and let him continue. One day God will show himself and I hope his followers will not defend things
@CandleCalls4
@CandleCalls4 11 күн бұрын
This is a very old message and it is worth it.
@Just_Kelvis
@Just_Kelvis 8 күн бұрын
Meanwhile he is addressing a general issue. Emotiond and partial judgment have blinded us.
@EndTimeTruthTv
@EndTimeTruthTv 13 күн бұрын
But where and how did he attack Pst Adeboye here?
@Amaslfield
@Amaslfield 13 күн бұрын
I wonder. Even Paul attacked Peter for his hypocrisy. He teaches sound doctrine.
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 4 күн бұрын
​​@@AmaslfieldPaul confronted Peter personally not in his preaching. Why don't he go to Pastor Kumuyi to confront him on this. Besides, Peter was at fault in that act of his, same can't be said of what Pastor Arome is alluding to. Come on we all know true Deeper Life members and their impact in society. So to conclude that he gathered crowd is very disrespectful. Except this was doctored.
@Truthseeker34
@Truthseeker34 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for such videos brother Joseph
@truthnlove-thechurch
@truthnlove-thechurch 21 күн бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Moneyland001
@Moneyland001 21 күн бұрын
100k 👀
@user-tu6ne6nd5f
@user-tu6ne6nd5f 14 күн бұрын
But he wasn't talking about any of them, if you have listen to this msg before
@abikingsley6716
@abikingsley6716 11 күн бұрын
I believed apostle Aromeh is Man with a robust respect for our father in the faith but to add a little we should not monitzed the gospel by joining people's heads.
@officialjwise850
@officialjwise850 21 күн бұрын
To us who always like and comment before watching
@awachwidoris6066
@awachwidoris6066 11 күн бұрын
God can still use that medium to talk to you just as he used the potter to teach Jeremiah mysteries.
@pst.t.shigirismusic7796
@pst.t.shigirismusic7796 7 күн бұрын
I don't think that the best way to make name in the ministry is by criticizing other called servants of God. The word of God is so deep in such that what is given to the other can never be the same with what's given to you. Sometimes, we should know that there are many formulas to solving problems. Every genuinely called man of God is always with a mandate. Let's also not forget that the right judge is God. I better stay without a ministry than staying with the ministry of condemning or criticizing others.
@kennedymagagula1163
@kennedymagagula1163 21 күн бұрын
Some of these people are anointed liars, remember when the anointing comes it amplifies whatever is in u and around u
@segtechltd714
@segtechltd714 18 күн бұрын
I love Arome, i want to believe is a sleep of tonque. Is not good for a preacher to talk too much tendencies are he slides from his message. a man of Should be more on his message not talking
@ElsaJones12
@ElsaJones12 21 күн бұрын
God help him😢😢😢
@incomehubpremium6752
@incomehubpremium6752 16 күн бұрын
This a man I respect a lot though I have not met him.. what you know and extent to which you know will manifest in time to come. This man is talking based on his capacity. I dare to say to him that even his own biological children will disappoint him. based on this mindset of his. Oh you thought you are making impact based on your small church. Change it to a Bible School Neither I'm I saying that big gathering doesn't have challenges to fix. They should go where?? According him, let him answer.
@emmyblessed
@emmyblessed 11 күн бұрын
Wait first, in what way did he insult them?
@cebolenkhosimtsetfwa3317
@cebolenkhosimtsetfwa3317 21 күн бұрын
It's a Matter of Time we need to Pray for Arome Osayi and Abel Damina ...It's only a matter of Time for them.
@Moneyland001
@Moneyland001 21 күн бұрын
I am suggesting that brother Joseph should hold a KZfaq live video for us to pray for him together. Let us gather together and pray for the body of Christ Especially Apostle Arome and Pastor Damina because they are still our brothers. They have blessed my life with their message in the past. PLEASE JOE DO THE LIVE VIDEO. WE ARE PRAYING FOR HIM AND DAMINA SECRETLY BUT A COMBINE PRAYER WILL WORK EFFECTIVELY
@ndifrekebassey
@ndifrekebassey 21 күн бұрын
🙏🙏​@@Moneyland001
@psttundesesan3430
@psttundesesan3430 19 күн бұрын
Hello. Please don't compare Damina and Arome. I beg you. Damina is a false teacher. Arome isn't. We all make mistakes. Damina teaches error. Arome doesn't attack fathers. No please.
@christiannyarko5877
@christiannyarko5877 18 күн бұрын
​@@joeBebiaisn't the bible telling us to obey our parents in the lord this generation
@smile4mea247
@smile4mea247 17 күн бұрын
@@christiannyarko5877 obeying father's in the lord is obeying father's according to the obedience of Christ . .
@Bamaiyisj
@Bamaiyisj 15 күн бұрын
Funny enough he wasn’t even talking about papa adeboye please let’s just focus on God and leave men God bless us all
@osasui.8151
@osasui.8151 16 күн бұрын
I think he said dis a long time ago...n not just of recent...d real video is d small circular one on d screen...
@summertee6634
@summertee6634 15 күн бұрын
Well he's not referring to any of them
@xrystaltvchannel553
@xrystaltvchannel553 21 күн бұрын
I pity Arome 😅😅😅😅😅 I’m just happy that Micheal Orokpo left him for Good
@IreritemDavidOfere
@IreritemDavidOfere 16 күн бұрын
You're not current brother 😂😂
@patal-256
@patal-256 17 күн бұрын
When Paul admonished Peter for not walking uprightly in Gal 2. That wasn't an attack neither does it mean that Peter was false; but he was wrong. I highly respect these two men of God. If Peter could somehow go wrong, then they too also can. But their wrong shouldn't be propagated,but to be corrected immediately. May God bless you all
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 4 күн бұрын
Paul confronted Peter personally,he didn't confront him in public to make him a source of ridicule. By the way all he said doesn't make sense to some of us anyway. That is opinion though
@sonofzion79
@sonofzion79 16 күн бұрын
Who is paying you? Eubert or alies I guess?😂
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 15 күн бұрын
So what was wrong with what pastor Kumuyi said about the strategy he learned from Coca cola company for the expansion of Deeper Life Bible Church? We all apply knowledge we gained from formal education and our area of specializations shapes our perspective of doing things. We attend workshops on Record keeping, Accounts etc organized by secular organizations ,and we apply what is learnt to ministry provided it doesn't contradict the word of God So say Pastor Kumuyi is "gathering crowd" is very despicable and very disrespectful. It is share disregard for other ministers or pride that can make a younger minister say this. I'm highly disappointed at Apostle Arome.
@ambassadorsamokechukwu
@ambassadorsamokechukwu 13 күн бұрын
@@PeterAsigri I think you better listen again to Apostle Arome with open mind. You cannot use the worldly formula to build the church. Jesus is building His Church and not gathering members. Jesus said make disciples not gather members. Gathering members is very easy, but making disciples is quite hard. If Deeper Life is making disciples the members will not see themselves are the only true Church.
@evang_ook
@evang_ook 7 күн бұрын
​@@ambassadorsamokechukwu Apostle Arome is wrong here. Don't be a "yes man" sir. Moses got a wise counsel from his father in law who was a pagan chief priest. He later inquired about the counsel from God and God approved of it. Do you think Pastor Kumuyi would have practice the principle without cross-checking with God first? No...after all we are seeing the positive results of the wise counsel he got from the Coca cola staff- it worked marvelously because God approved of it.
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 5 күн бұрын
​@@ambassadorsamokechukwuso in simple terms he apostle Arome is building on Christ and Pastor Kumuyi and Pastor Adeboye are building on human principles? This is why the CHURCH of God is very weak because a KINGDOM DIVIDED against itself will not stand. There's no perfect Church or pastor since the fall of man. Rather there's a perfecting church or pastor. Until we all get to heaven by grace,our opinions will ever differ. But we simply have to be mindful of how we speak about each other so as not to cast stumbling blocks before the weak brethren. Pastor Arome has not achieved half of what the two pastors have achieved over the years. To conclude this way about Pastor Kumuyi is very unfortunate about him. He should learn to be humble!!
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 4 күн бұрын
​@@ambassadorsamokechukwusee what you just wrote, let's compare the impact of Deeper Life on Nigeria and Christiandom as compared to that of Arome's. Or you think Charisma carries people to heaven? Let's be humble, because there's more years ahead of him in ministry and I hope his disposition won't affect him in the future.
@italoyeolanrewaju5261
@italoyeolanrewaju5261 11 күн бұрын
But y do you people love to look for critics above the mesage? This cant help you and even your followers. If all you do is to listen to sermon to bring out pastors that were attacked then am afraid something is wrong. The message is 15min, 20m or 30 mins sermon or teaching per week or twice a week cannot produce a strong believer. And he is right. Always look beyond who pastors are criticizing and focus on the message then u will be profited by it. Shalom🕊️🕊️🕊️
@julietwambigifhorn3405
@julietwambigifhorn3405 15 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😅😅😅😅, FIRE 🔥 for fire 🔥 to themselves.. They all went around saying prophet tb Joshua was unt christ now let them fight themselves,. Prophet tb Joshua never replied them.. And now Holy ghost fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 to themselves in Jesus mighty name Amen. And prophet tb Joshua is on the throne watching 🤣🤣🤣✍️✍️✍️🕊️🕊️🕊️💖💖💖 I love you always prophet tb Joshua and sleep well home in heaven 💒🕊️🕊️💖💖
@victorebegbuna4860
@victorebegbuna4860 11 күн бұрын
If we use all social media created platforms to preach the gospel, (which are ideas of FB, IG, KZfaq, etc), why can't we use the idea of Coca-Cola. Laban advised moses who spoke with God face to face and followed the advise and didn't purnished for it, so why are we stressing ourselves. He didn't say let me wait to hear it from God first. Sometimes, some preachers talk as if every single move we make must come from God, no, it doesn't work that way. Jesus preached to 5000 people and fed them preached to thousands of others and healed uncountable people, but how come he couldnt get enough people to vote for him between him and the notorious criminal, and how many people where at the upper roam for the baptism of the holy ghost, should we blame Jesus for that? Didnt the bible say many are called but few are chosen? Our preachers needs to be more careful, the bible clear says that we know in parts, no one knows it all, why call out people when you have your own ignorance. May God help us all
@mosesijere1601
@mosesijere1601 13 күн бұрын
HE DIDN'T MENTION NAMES........HE IS CORRECT IN A SENSE
@cyrilschandorf2108
@cyrilschandorf2108 16 күн бұрын
Matthew 23:15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves. Matthew 7:20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:22 On that day many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name? Matthew 7:23 And then will I declare to them, I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness. Glory to Jesus Christ the only credible mediator between God and all generations. 1TIMOTHY 2:5-7
@olabisiabraham801
@olabisiabraham801 17 күн бұрын
This Pastor just crossed the line! No! He is wrong! The truth is anointing attracts crowd and it's God's gift! He does not know what he is talking about. Check the Bible, God's dealings with Moses, Joshua, King David, etc. God promised to exalt and honour them! I pity people criticize fathers of faith!🤔 There is nothing wrong in having a mega church! This man just put a lid on his destiny!!!
@Detective-I
@Detective-I 18 күн бұрын
😢😢😢
@WisdomIdachaba
@WisdomIdachaba 12 күн бұрын
I don't know why I never liked this man. He is castigating someone statement when he did not understand what Pa kumuyi is saying. The question is why is dat young ministers with background want to be correcting fathers of faith. Another question is what was Arome calling. They are just loosing focus here and there
@dannykhapelarkhapelar7711
@dannykhapelarkhapelar7711 16 күн бұрын
Stop creating nonsense head lines just to get views... I forward the video no need to be wasting my data. Apostle didn't attack any Father.
@peterliman6968
@peterliman6968 21 күн бұрын
I don't hate Apostle but I dislike his attitude of him showing himself to be the best and the others are not. That's not the gospel of Jesus. Please I know he attack men of God but brother Joe I will suggest you should stop posting and talking about him. It will looked like this platform is against him which we all know it's not against him. This is just my suggestion
@Moneyland001
@Moneyland001 21 күн бұрын
No brother. He do post some PREACHINGS of Apostle Arome. He post this so we will pray for him
@Wendy-rm4wv
@Wendy-rm4wv 15 күн бұрын
What is your goal for publishing such videos with the titles you five them? What is your goal?
@emmanuelokolie7861
@emmanuelokolie7861 4 күн бұрын
Arome Osayi sounds like he's too much. He should watch it. I mean no harm my humble observation.
@ebenezermensah9831
@ebenezermensah9831 21 күн бұрын
Eiii😮😂😂
@JamesMichaek
@JamesMichaek 17 күн бұрын
If young man taste a small success oride will set instead of you defending you need to pray for him. I lsten to him and i respect his message but he must becareful
@revnoahpaulin4338
@revnoahpaulin4338 4 күн бұрын
Apostle Arome is not your mate. Call him Apostle. You might never match him in life even if you live three lives. OH HELP THIS GENERATION WHERE EVERYONE HAS MOUTH TO TALK EVEN WITHOUT CALLING
@PeterAsigri
@PeterAsigri 4 күн бұрын
Just like he may never match the pastors he's castigating.
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