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BREAKING! Milwaukee M18 FUEL Mag Drill has to face the music.

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Күн бұрын

DeWALT just announced their very first cordless Mag Drill, which if you don’t need a mag drill, you might think doesn’t matter. But when you look closely at exactly what this thing can do, and how much it costs, there’s another story here. DeWALT is hungry, and they want Milwaukee’s lunch. Let's go!
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@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514
@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514 Жыл бұрын
Rob, one correction: all 3 drill's have a 2" depth of cut not the 5.8" you mentioned for the DeWalt. That figure is the total travel and stroke of the drilling head. To have a 5.8" depth of cut capacity the head would have to be huge to accommodate the retractable centering pin. The Fein has a 5-5/16" stroke with a total travel of 10-1/4" thanks to the double-dovetail head design.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow Жыл бұрын
Totally right Fein! Really appreciate you pointing that out! I’ll correct it in the description. Huge fan btw.
@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514
@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow How does Fein get on one of your shelves and participate in your give-away?
@buildthings79
@buildthings79 Жыл бұрын
The Dewalt also has a double dovetail slide. I own 2 of them.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Mag drills are a godsend, when you need them they do what would have taken you 10 mins to do in about 30 seconds without throwing out your shoulder. Though they do tend to weigh seemingly a million pounds as well.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
I've never used a cordless one. But 30lbs doesn't seem too bad considering you only need to lift it into place. We produced a "how to drill through metal" video way back in like 2017, but never launched it. We used a mag drill, and it was AMAZING.
@Manu__R
@Manu__R 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow Ha, try drilling out a bunch of holes in a beam over your head while on the top of a ladder with the Milwaukee, it's really heavy, and the stupid knob to turn on the magnet is really hard to turn if you don't have a good hand position. I usually use one hand on the chuck to line up the bit, one hand to tighten the knob, and my head to hold the weight of the motor. If Dewalt's magnet lever is any better than Milwaukee's knob, I'm sold.
@Skiboy33
@Skiboy33 2 жыл бұрын
Mag drills are nice, but for some of us common folk, hole hog and a quick grip does the job.
@tommyobrien9480
@tommyobrien9480 Жыл бұрын
@@Skiboy33 you can't compare the two as they do completely different jobs
@tommyobrien9480
@tommyobrien9480 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow A lot of Mag drill work is done at height so the weight does make a difference which is one of the disadvantages of cordless Mag drills. This one is the only one of the 3 with a reverse function which would be great for tapping treads etc. Great video thanks
@joshuaking34
@joshuaking34 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it's time to rebuild my house with steel beams.
@jackofall2305
@jackofall2305 2 жыл бұрын
When drilling steel you want as slow as you can go
@elliotkane4443
@elliotkane4443 Жыл бұрын
I've used the Milwaukee along with about 6 other corded versions, mainly ITM. Most important thing to note is: Permanent magnet, screw operated - turn the knob to operate the magnet rather than use an electro-magnet like most corded drills have. This is WAY safer especially if you are drilling overhead or sideways, the permanent magnet does not use battery power so will not let go on you. This avoids problems caused by a pulled extension lead, an electrician or other trade pulling the lead or switching power off without warning or running off a generator with limited fuel capacity. If this happens to you the drill will drop without warning, often mid-cut. If you're not paying attention this can easily destroy the tool or cause serious injury. This feature alone is enough to buy one to switch out over a comparable corded drill if you have to make a lot of holes in difficult locations.. The Milwaukee mag drill was bulkier, heavier and weaker than a comparable sized drill but not to the point it made it unattractive to use. The LED light was a decent feature that corded drills don't seem to have. The electrical cable from the body to the drill motor is much better constructed than many older corded drills, which are really terrible for their price, with no strain relief or serious protection. On the other hand I am not impressed with the lack of a good lifting point or steel handle on either the Dewalt or Milwaukee, when using in a manlift/cherry picker this is fairly important.
@mjp404
@mjp404 2 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee need to redesign the mag activation knob, it gets painful activating that badly shaped handle all day. The lever on the dewalt looks like a better idea.
@andrewk8636
@andrewk8636 2 жыл бұрын
You use a cordless one all day? How does the battery last on that?
@Manu__R
@Manu__R 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it's really hard, hurts my wrist, especially when trying to do it while holding up the drill overhead. I usually turn the knob most of the way, hold up the drill and let it stick, and then take a break 😵 and then loosen the knob a drop to adjust it.
@Manu__R
@Manu__R 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewk8636 I find, with a 9ah, it can drill at least 20-30 9/16" holes with an annular cutter. We only kill a 9ah when drilling many holes with a 1/2" foot-long twist bit through wood & steel (don't ask 😜).
@mjp404
@mjp404 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewk8636 We can drill close to 100 M16 holes through 5mm plate with the 12ah. It's pretty impressive.
@mjp404
@mjp404 2 жыл бұрын
@@Manu__R Tell me about it, wrist fatigue is real! Half activating the magnet is a good trick.
@wowritenow
@wowritenow Жыл бұрын
I have been using Milwaukee tools for over 15 years. I have that Milwaukee mag drill that's getting "dethroned" . I want to see the review of actual use of the tool. Not just a specification comparison. I have seen a ton of claims that Dewalt tools are "coming back" , but I've never see any of that in the field. I don't mike paying 10 more for a Milwaukee tool that will last me TWICE as long.
@thatdude6045
@thatdude6045 Жыл бұрын
Milwaukee always does it first and then another company always wants to jump in and make one slightly more powerful
@joshuapreusser2265
@joshuapreusser2265 2 жыл бұрын
Between this mag drill (assuming performance claims are accurate of course) and Dewalt's new high torque impact I could say good-by to Milwaukee's M18 line of tools and actually be gaining capability.... Or (more likely) it seems I may end up with yet another line of batteries at some point.....
@ToAstYNaChO
@ToAstYNaChO 2 жыл бұрын
tools are a race. every brand ups the game and is top dog for a while. until the competitors come back swinging
@Anteater6788
@Anteater6788 Жыл бұрын
It only took Dewalt 5 years to beat the Milwaukee high torque. Personally I'm glad they did because Milwaukee finally has the competition needed to develop a Gen 2 high torque.
@philipjohn4149
@philipjohn4149 Жыл бұрын
My Milwaukee 3/4 impact has developed a windings issue. Milwaukee has so many generations... I wonder if they skimp on testing. My dewalt 1/2 impact is on 8 years.
@philipjohn4149
@philipjohn4149 Жыл бұрын
@@Anteater6788 lol. Gen 2 has already been out for years. That's the problem Milwaukee creates generations so fast.. that all gens are at the store at Sametime... u could end up with gen 1 at a higher price.
@philipjohn4149
@philipjohn4149 Жыл бұрын
@@Anteater6788 well to get 8 years and going strong from dewalt gen 1 with no electronics issues is pretty amazing... I can skip gen 2 and get gen 2 3/4... as my Milwaukee is brunt up after 3 years.
@Tomc12345
@Tomc12345 Ай бұрын
In the UK you can get the full kit Milwaukee with batteries and charger and carry case for £1050 but the dewalt is £1500 bare tool
@Andrew-xd9fg
@Andrew-xd9fg Жыл бұрын
There is other cordless mag drill. Metabo, nitto, there’s a euro brand cordless mag drill that runs of the cas battery system. Dewalt will probably top the charts based off its paper specs
@sto502
@sto502 Жыл бұрын
DeWalt looks good, too. However, I think FEIN is a more attractive mag drill considering the durability of the motor and gear has been verified and the speed control and ease of use of the switch.
@Pinz314
@Pinz314 2 жыл бұрын
Minimum speed is 130rpm as seen on the drill @2:25 And interesting to see what Fein con do with the Bosch battery platform which they will adapt at the end of this year.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out! I saw that after the VO was recorded.
@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514
@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow Just wait till we can hook a 9Ah battery to the AJMU 137. 👊😎
@ns_racing
@ns_racing Жыл бұрын
@@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514 good luck contending with dewalts new brushless motors!
@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514
@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514 Жыл бұрын
@@ns_racing Fein will put their brushless motors up against anyone's in the industry. Not worried.
@robbo951
@robbo951 Жыл бұрын
@@feinpowertoolssaleswest6514 will the amp share/Bosch batteries fit into the current mag drills?
@johngregory662
@johngregory662 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting…I use mag drills quite a bit. They are great especially when drill 3/4’ holes or larger into structural steel, above your head, on top of an elevator ( usually on a ladder on said elevator). Any good mag drill has auto shut off if the magnet loses connection with the steel it’s on. The cheaper ones don’t 🙄. It’s not a good. I’ve never tried a cordless one. A bit Leary of the permanent magnet and how strong it really is.but then that’s why the safety shut off Live confidently and peacefully
@WilReid
@WilReid Жыл бұрын
I think I'd prefer the permanent magnet. I haven't used a mag drill in over a decade, but I distinctly remember the few times I've tripped a breaker or the cord came disconnected while drilling with one. Thankfully only broken cutters and no broken bones from it. I think it'd happen much more often due to a weak battery, so a permanent magnet makes a lot of sense imho. That's only true if they used a big enough magnet of course.
@tommyobrien9480
@tommyobrien9480 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you need worry about the magnet but they are a fair bit heavier than the corded ones and a lot of mag drill work is done overhead and off ladders so weight would make a big difference. Also the cost would be a factor for me anyway.
@johngregory662
@johngregory662 Жыл бұрын
@@WilReid absolutely. Battery operated ones HAVE to have a permanent magnet. It would draw to much lower from the battery
@johngregory662
@johngregory662 Жыл бұрын
@@tommyobrien9480 cost is always an issue. There is no reason it, or any cordless mag drill has to be that high. Lower the price. Sell more More people may get in to mad drill and realize how nice they are 🙂
@elliotkane4443
@elliotkane4443 Жыл бұрын
The permanent magnet is a big+ on these. Makes them much more safe to use, especially when drilling overhead or horizontal. The permanent magnet is just as strong as the electro-magnet on comparable size corded units, I've used the milwaukee and you do have to turn that knob on the rear at least 1 1/2 full turns to fully engage the magnet.
@jamesgarrison6430
@jamesgarrison6430 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Milwaukee in the title and was like that's a dewalt mag drill in the picture
@rudyschwab7709
@rudyschwab7709 2 жыл бұрын
I don't need this. I can't afford this. But, I sure do want this!
@ronh9384
@ronh9384 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100 💯 % I want this but no longer have a need for one. The last time I used one was probably 30 years ago at an amusement park while they were open and with a very long extension cord! 😊
@pettypendergrass8596
@pettypendergrass8596 2 жыл бұрын
i love the presentation of this channel. its not the same ole' run of the mill 'this tool made a hole'' type of channel.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow Жыл бұрын
Glad you're finding something fun to watch here Petty!
@FixitFred
@FixitFred Жыл бұрын
I am happy about this not that I want the Dewalt but more competition in this space would be welcome to help lower prices and bring out new models from Milwaukee
@forger9443
@forger9443 Жыл бұрын
If only I can find a mag drill to "magnetise concrete" so I don't have all those antics on top of ladders drilling through cement block.... Them neighbours must surely think I'm from the circus....
@owenkrauss5249
@owenkrauss5249 2 жыл бұрын
I am an apprentice electrician and man this one time I had to drill 4 one 3/4 holes in 3 inch thick, I was a weak 17 year old using a rigid brand drill. I think it might have been a mud mixing drill. I didn’t know how to do it fast so after 4 hours I got two holes done and a carpenter gave me a piece of foam insulation and duct taped it to my chest. It took an hour to drill the last to holes. It would have been faster to drive to the store and convince the boss to buy one of these! I need to start trying to convince him!
@WilReid
@WilReid Жыл бұрын
You can use a small ratchet strap to apply downward force as well. I assume that's what the foam was for. lol
@owenkrauss5249
@owenkrauss5249 Жыл бұрын
@@WilReid that’s a good idea! Although I was on a scissor lift so it was more of a perpendicular force and I don’t think the strap would work for that
@beardedswordsman2901
@beardedswordsman2901 Жыл бұрын
I call these drills the ooopsie drills because when the machine shop forgets to make a hole or two in something but it's too late and/or costly to send back to have your holes made.
@jordanstaal01-107
@jordanstaal01-107 Жыл бұрын
Dewalt can’t beat Milwaukee’s warranty. So I’ll stay with Milwaukee.
@thatdude6045
@thatdude6045 Жыл бұрын
Had me intrigued all the way up until the price. Those mag drills are expensive
@johnfaustus1
@johnfaustus1 Жыл бұрын
There are likely no homeowners who would ever need this tool - construction and industry only.
@matzmopar1
@matzmopar1 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s the @milwaukee track saw at?!?
@liambaker1597
@liambaker1597 2 жыл бұрын
humm they been out?
@matzmopar1
@matzmopar1 Жыл бұрын
@@liambaker1597 huh?
@liambaker1597
@liambaker1597 Жыл бұрын
@@matzmopar1 not sure if you being sarcastic but milwaukee dropped their track saw a few months back
@mattkaplan1316
@mattkaplan1316 Жыл бұрын
Fellas what do you reckon you could pull some strings to get makita to make a 80v one Like tools might
@danakibby627
@danakibby627 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 year Milwaukee hammer drill! I just bought a new brushless hammer drill and the new one is very cheaply built! I also bought a grinder and it is also very cheaply made
@rileymannion5301
@rileymannion5301 Жыл бұрын
I just want a mag drill that has a strong enough magnet for me to put some beans behind it, the corded milwaukee one dosent hold for shit
@buildthings79
@buildthings79 Жыл бұрын
If you have to put that much downward force on the magdrill then your cutters are dull. A nice sharp cutter doesn't need much force on the handle.
@isaaclandau5751
@isaaclandau5751 Жыл бұрын
Honestly! I think there’s a market for the Makita XGT line in the space. The screams like a Makita project
@andrewk8636
@andrewk8636 2 жыл бұрын
Price is absurd tho on both Milwaukee and dewalt
@dommendoza
@dommendoza Жыл бұрын
i want this. but high voltage like 40v up
@Manu__R
@Manu__R 2 жыл бұрын
Yayyy been waiting so long, I've always been wondering why Dewalt doesn't just take milwaukee's little product brochures and copy everything on it 😁 plus with the flexvolt line, should be easier to make some of the large machines that milwaukee makes in MX.
@buildthings79
@buildthings79 Жыл бұрын
You've got that backwards but ok. Dewalt takes a very long time to bring things to market. Years of testing and research ( most time too long). They file for the patents early then Milwaukee uses that idea and copies it because they are owned by a Chinese company. I live in Maryland where one of Dewalt manufacturing plants are and test tools for them privately at my shop. I have tested tools that Milwaukee then has copied years later but I can assure Dewalt had them first. It's just that Milwaukee isn't concerned very much about law suits from injury cases since its difficult to sue in China. Dewalt on the other hand is Based out of Towson, Maryland so very easy to sue. The thing with patents is that you can change one small item of the design on how a process is done like a safety switch or function and unless the whole tool with every aspect is patented( which they can get around anyway) it's difficult to keep secret.
@Manu__R
@Manu__R Жыл бұрын
@@buildthings79 You're serious? Milwaukee steals Dewalt's patents? That's crazy.
@gtaonlinestoryvideos7397
@gtaonlinestoryvideos7397 Жыл бұрын
But yet @dewalt we still don’t have a one inch impact wrench and tbh I really don’t wanna buy Milwaukee I’m waiting for the one inch to come out
@SandyMasquith
@SandyMasquith 2 жыл бұрын
At $2500 this is a bit pricey, but I wonder if one could use it as a milling machine for metal? Can you chuck a facing tool in there and then use a clamp that lets you move the material under that facing tool. There’s cheaper milling machines out there, but they are not what one would call portable.
@neilwalker8686
@neilwalker8686 2 жыл бұрын
These types of tools are designed for vertical loading. Horizontal load will destroy it and already brand new have way to much play for any kind of precise tolerance.
@Manu__R
@Manu__R 2 жыл бұрын
Probably, they're pretty tough. I wouldn't go with a massive bit, but small jobs should work good, probably annoying to keep shifting the drill around though. If shavings get under the magnet, you have to clean it off so it can stick. They do have quite a bit of play though, as @Neil Walker says.
@libertyvilleguy2903
@libertyvilleguy2903 Жыл бұрын
Dang, that is pricey.
@roberterickson6331
@roberterickson6331 2 жыл бұрын
Mag drills are amazing but a lot of the company's I work for won't get them
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
I... I'm perfectly happy with my corded mag drill At least with the price of mine being an order of magnitude lower ($450 from the local hardware store)
@elliotkane4443
@elliotkane4443 Жыл бұрын
For $450 that must be a real hunk of junk.
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
@@elliotkane4443 it has a low runout, a good magnet and a 2 kw motor but otherwise, it's disappointing
@elliotkane4443
@elliotkane4443 Жыл бұрын
@@angrydragonslayer Really, 2kw for $450? Doubt. Not calling you a liar but 1550w is what $3,500 AU will buy. I reckon they're lying to ya.
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Жыл бұрын
@@elliotkane4443 it draws 2.2kw from the wall and says it's a 2kw one I'd guess the efficiency is bad though and the actual power out is closer to 1kw
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 2 жыл бұрын
Maaaaybe let Sarah have a turn?
@TheGingerWorkshop
@TheGingerWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Need? No. Want?! Ummmm Yeah!
@AldenPez
@AldenPez Жыл бұрын
Obviously I have no need for a mag drill that's why I'm here
@Handyman247llc
@Handyman247llc Жыл бұрын
Nope!! I can't say I have found a project, that requires a Testosterone laiten Mag drill. Well maybe...Nope that was a concrete project. No Mag drill required.
@lucasgiallorati4896
@lucasgiallorati4896 2 жыл бұрын
WOW
@brizzle8797
@brizzle8797 Жыл бұрын
That's just the way it goes with these tools I mean how long has the Milwaukee mag drill been out.. years! How hard could it be to have all that time to come out with something that's only marginally better! That's fine Milwaukee will just make one that takes two batteries! LOL
@Andrew-xd9fg
@Andrew-xd9fg Жыл бұрын
Milwaukee and dewalt mag drills both manufactured by atlas copco
@brizzle8797
@brizzle8797 Жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-xd9fg That is interesting!
@jamallaidley4718
@jamallaidley4718 2 жыл бұрын
Nice One 😏 😎
@ericamlin1460
@ericamlin1460 2 жыл бұрын
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