BREAKING NEWS! Fanatec Runs Out Of Money And Is Being SOLD To Corsair!

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Kireth

Kireth

Ай бұрын

As I have reported on for months - Fanatec is now confirmed as imminently illiquid, and CORSAIR have swopped in to buy the pieces. Huge drama.
The complete truth about Fanatec, customer service, shareholders, hedge funds, bankruptcy - it's all here.
The explosive, unedited interview with Fanatec CEO Thomas Jackermeier where I ask him YOUR QUESTIONS on the Fanatec Black Friday orders, customer support tickets, the ClubSport DD+ not shipping, warranty dates, shipping in different boxes and MORE. Thank you to everyone who responded on KZfaq and to the Sim Doctor newsletter asking for your questions.
Sim racing influencers owe it to you to ask these tough questions and represent you with these sim racing manufacturers. If you feel like they are not representing you, ask them why not.
After the interview Fanatec added the following in respect of warranties:
"The warranty start date shown for any product in a Fanatec account is based on the shipping date of the order. This means if the customer purchases a pre-order item, the purchase date has no bearing on the start of the warranty coverage. If the customer requires support towards the end of the warranty period, we take the date of delivery into account."
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@Kireth
@Kireth Ай бұрын
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@MCR.88
@MCR.88 Ай бұрын
Curious why you don't play PC is you are this dedicated to Sim Racing?
@virtualawakening2299
@virtualawakening2299 Ай бұрын
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@Kireth
@Kireth Ай бұрын
My latest video on the channel is me playing Le Man Ultimate on PC 🙃
@MCR.88
@MCR.88 Ай бұрын
@@virtualawakening2299 No disrespect just wondered as I have started to see his shorts were all GT7.
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 Ай бұрын
So they drove themselves to bankruptcy 🤔
@shaggyego
@shaggyego Ай бұрын
I cant help but feel their unwillingness to actually go through retailers is probably what have cause the biggest downfall, they were still effectively dealimg with individual orders when they should be shipping out 100s of units to single addresses for a lower profit margin, i really like my fanatec gear but im no fanboy of it, i just enjoy playing gran turismo and i really dislike logitech wheels
@Kireth
@Kireth Ай бұрын
I feel you're right. Being a D2C is the golden ticket, if you can scale. If you can't it gives you a headstart but then bites horribly
@shaggyego
@shaggyego Ай бұрын
@Kireth exactly, not to mention if you miss an order, a store goes without 20~30 units for a week, that's 1 commerical complaint... D2C... that's 20~30 very loud and passionate individual complaints... I think it'll be good news with corsair, they aren't a nobody brand, but something people seem to completely forget, the 200 or so employees that still seem pretty passionate about their craft.
@stevep927
@stevep927 Ай бұрын
I offered Thomas the opportunity to open a US warehouse and maintenance service center 4-5 years ago. I had proven myself to him by doing all US repairs and warranty exchanges for nearly two years. I had secured warehouse space with a storefront . The possibilities would have been unlimited. In the end after talking directly with Thomas and his representative who came to the US they decided to not extend support to the US. Big mistake. As far as their financial troubles we don't know if Thomas purchased boats and sports cars,etc. I wouldn't assume the actual merchandise was unprofitable
@MarkNOTW
@MarkNOTW 26 күн бұрын
@@stevep927Thomas is clearly not an operational/logistics guru.
@stevep927
@stevep927 22 күн бұрын
@@MarkNOTW When I spoke to him directly that was painfully obvious to me within a matter of seconds
@Olddufferracing777
@Olddufferracing777 Ай бұрын
Really appreciate your work keeping us updated Kireth! It's good news as far as I'm concerned, hopefully it will be a good move buying their products in the near future..
@seanchristophersynthesizer6999
@seanchristophersynthesizer6999 Ай бұрын
It took 3 months, but I'm happy for PayPal finally forcing Fanatec to refund me. I just got my money this morning and feel like I dodged a bullet.
@codywright2890
@codywright2890 Ай бұрын
So I'm thinking about doing the same thing... I just bought the dd pro and I started seeing all this stuff going on. Should I contact PayPal and get a return going immediately? I just spent 1000k
@downloadingbt8020
@downloadingbt8020 Ай бұрын
I didn’t use PayPal and never got my refund…
@Invin_cibles
@Invin_cibles Ай бұрын
@@codywright2890 Absolutely.
@Invin_cibles
@Invin_cibles Ай бұрын
@@downloadingbt8020 Your bank most likely has a chargeback service. Get in contact with them.
@stevep927
@stevep927 Ай бұрын
@@downloadingbt8020 It's called extortion by Thomas . He should be in jail
@scottgriffiths8525
@scottgriffiths8525 Ай бұрын
Well done Kireth for speaking out. None of the other guys are talking. Guess I won’t see my £600 refund from November still not settled.
@The_BenboBaggins
@The_BenboBaggins Ай бұрын
I hope this works out for the people working at Fanatec and customers past, present and future
@GG-si7fw
@GG-si7fw Ай бұрын
They were spending too much money on marketing. That should of been the first area they should made budget cuts.
@TheKevMaster
@TheKevMaster Ай бұрын
Yup. They don't need as much marketing
@mazyata9958
@mazyata9958 Ай бұрын
Yeah way too much on marketing. Everyone knows this. Too bad many mainstream KZfaqrs fail to mention this to consumers. Or they are doing damage control since they are getting a free product to test.
@filipivan5125
@filipivan5125 Ай бұрын
Marketing is everything nowadays. Trash products/companies gain customers if they heavily focus on marketing. Fanatec couldnt handle the customer increase last BF. Thats not a marketing issue…
@GSSimRacing
@GSSimRacing Ай бұрын
The reason for their losses was cost of goods was not controlled. Marketing spend was not above what you'd think. This is clear from flicking through their financial statements.
@SilverHolland
@SilverHolland Ай бұрын
​@@filipivan5125 With good products and value for money, the power of the internet makes you go viral.
@kshay1394
@kshay1394 Ай бұрын
As a new sim racer, thanks to some Fanetec deals last year (before fall '23 issues), I'm sad for us all. They are a good brand, still, in my humble opinion. I'm very happy with my Fanetec gear, and I'll continue to buy. Especially now cause there should be some good deals coming. Provided they can actually deliver this time....on time. Thanks for the great real time coverage K.🤞🙋🏻‍♂️👨🏻‍🏫
@shawnreap
@shawnreap Ай бұрын
This could be a very good thing. Elgato continues to do good things under Corsair, and if they can get some better software support over to Fanatec through that connection that would be great. (Stream Deck integration, anyone?) The potential for going retail is huge, too. How nice would it be to snag a new wheel on sale with your Amazon or Newegg gift card, for example? I don't see dropping the super-high-end stuff as a big deal. Who really needs a $1500 wheel rim anyway? I already thought the Fanatec product line could do with some pruning and updating here and there. It's funny, I went with Fanatec despite the customer service stories because I figured they were too big to fail and would be around for years and years. I was getting worried that wouldn't be the case soon. With Corsair buying them I'd feel a bit more confident in their longevity again.
@SKONY74
@SKONY74 Ай бұрын
Good to hear that Fanatec will be sold to a competent company. I am a fan of Corsair so good news all around if this really happens... plus feel better that if any issues come up with my new DD Extreme there will be a company around to fulfill warranty claims 😅
@jackraider1039
@jackraider1039 Ай бұрын
I've had the hs380 for about a week and they're an incredible pair of headphones
@vladimirtalijan
@vladimirtalijan Ай бұрын
A company who makes chips is competent to run a niche sim racing gear company with a passion as a foundation, and innovate on top of that? :) Forget about Fanatec as you know it, it's dead.
@dubj5191
@dubj5191 Ай бұрын
The way the shareholders are getting wiped out they will probably say sorry it’s not our responsibility & your warranty is void
@EYLOGITOS
@EYLOGITOS Ай бұрын
@@vladimirtalijan Corsair started out a bit like Fanatec too though... Remember more than a decade ago, they were a high price / high quality company producing mainly peripherals and ram slots and on top of everything their customer support was one of their hot advantages, exactly what Fanatec lacks... So, I think it is a relatively good fit... Better than other companies for sure and a lot better than banks.... Let's just hope that they will maintain the idea behind Fanatec and not blend it with Corsair's
@scrooge201
@scrooge201 Ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA spreading misinformation Corsair makes THE cheapest products in the market enjoy your plastic fisher price wheel CLOWN 🤣🤣🤣
@legendarykrbx5659
@legendarykrbx5659 Ай бұрын
I am already stressed rn and yet this is making things a lot fucken worse, they better not fucken touch the pricing for them
@tallicafan8
@tallicafan8 Ай бұрын
Lol. They are.
@shishkebaba
@shishkebaba Ай бұрын
hopefully it goes down because corsair will be more competent at distribution and logistics
@Invin_cibles
@Invin_cibles Ай бұрын
lmao imagine being such an incel peasant to be stressing about this lmao.
@VisualAnthony
@VisualAnthony Ай бұрын
better chance of a price decrease with Corsair in charge. time will tell.
@jermanoid
@jermanoid Ай бұрын
Wouldn't worry about the price going up as much as the quality going down
@ivana6141
@ivana6141 Ай бұрын
Get another interview with Thomas!
@GregoryShtevensh
@GregoryShtevensh Ай бұрын
This
@iyadkamhiyeh527
@iyadkamhiyeh527 Ай бұрын
Why interviewing the guy who brought the company to its knees?
@ivana6141
@ivana6141 Ай бұрын
@iyadkamhiyeh527 He'll likely have a different take on the situation. This seams like a conspiracy style takeover. You wouldn't want to hear him speak? Even out of curiosity?
@carlad2640
@carlad2640 Ай бұрын
​@@iyadkamhiyeh527He also brought it to the top and opened direct drive to the mainstream.
@panossavvaidis6086
@panossavvaidis6086 Ай бұрын
I can't believe all this went so quickly and wasn't pre planned. Unless the company was so deep in debt and the consumers were played so bad.
@alecmillea4539
@alecmillea4539 Ай бұрын
The company is massively in debt. They needed €25,000,000 to not go bankrupt.
@stevep927
@stevep927 Ай бұрын
You would be wrong. Thomas conducted a Black Friday fund raiser because he could not pay his bills. When people get desperate they do funny things
@22Epic
@22Epic Ай бұрын
@@alecmillea4539 25M ain't much.
@jonathannix8671
@jonathannix8671 Ай бұрын
I have been in this situation with a family company and believe me these things are not planned.A lot going on in the background that nobody will ever hear about.
@EYLOGITOS
@EYLOGITOS Ай бұрын
@@jonathannix8671 Thing is that Fanatec is not a family business. Their shares were public and it's unethical and probably illegal to keep these things secret. But I agree that in a disaster everything goes superfast
@GT7-wonky
@GT7-wonky Ай бұрын
wow. I'm also impartial as I can't afford any "super high-end stuff", and feel for anyone who has ordered one etc, but I 'sense or feel' this will all pan out for the better, just understandably extremely tense for now...
@M1tZk1
@M1tZk1 Ай бұрын
I already said a few videos ago, that Fanatec is too big in the branche to not get bought out by a competitor. Though I thought it would be Logitech or Thrustmaster but Corsair is also fine. They have amazing products and I'm sure they will treat the Fanatec Brand right.
@virtualawakening2299
@virtualawakening2299 Ай бұрын
If they have any business sense, they know they have the "Toyota Lexus" of all brands. Decades of in game advertising and street cred. No other company has more than a year of in game advertising save for Coach Dave Academy... That is worth more than the Fanatec product line. I'm expecting all production to go to China and for Fanatec to go head to head with Logitec in retail stores. Hey now, Moza and Camus will be there too. lol
@M1tZk1
@M1tZk1 Ай бұрын
@@virtualawakening2299 I hear Moza a lot, but there is no official support for consoles. Gran Turismo 7 is huge. Like really huge. I would totally believe that the GT DD Pro would be the highest selling product Fanatec has. So for now Fanatec is basically the Premium choice for console players. There is only one Logitech premium Wheel and Thrustmaster has also one high end belt Wheel. But Fanatec gives you Options upon Options. So thst is something thst still is very unique to thst Brand.
@ccramit
@ccramit Ай бұрын
If Fanatec would have just started selling through retailers years ago, they would have been much better off. They could have just focused on R&D and manufacturing instead of worrying about every individual shipment. They were pulling people from everywhere just to deal with custumer service complaints near the end, which just made things worse considering they were having supply issues in the first place. This just made their manufacturing problem even worse and everything just snowballed. Had they allowed retailers to take on the stocking and sales portion of the business, they could have alleviated the issues on the production side of things. But because they were too greedy, their company started bleeding money and falling behind. Shame, their products weren't half bad. I got lucky. I bought most of my stuff pre-pandemic, before their problems started getting too bad. Hopefully Corsair will help prevent my Fanatec gear from becoming obsolete.
@christopherraines3202
@christopherraines3202 Ай бұрын
Amazing coverage Kireth! Cheers!
@user-zq6is2cq2w
@user-zq6is2cq2w Ай бұрын
Thanks for the update @Kireth. OK so in your opinion whay will happen with pre existing hardware and software? Will they still all be supported? I have a DD+ with f1 wheel just been picked up on Tuesday by dpd for repair after breaking on 3rd day of use. Will this all still be fixed or will there be a pause in both sales and repair? How does it work on that front? Thanks in advance.
@Kireth
@Kireth Ай бұрын
On software, yes I imagine so. On hardware, at some point I imagine Corsair will want to slim the portfolio down (I could be wrong)
@O-Friendly
@O-Friendly Ай бұрын
I fear their prices will go up. If that happens, the company will go down. Belly up. Guess I won't be upgrading from the GT DD Pro to the Clubsport DD+
@colddeath9797
@colddeath9797 Ай бұрын
I expect prices go down as Corsair may make the products more affordable as they have a chain of resellers all over the world
@EYLOGITOS
@EYLOGITOS Ай бұрын
I fear more about the products characteristics than prices tbh... Replacing Alcantara and nice metal for abs plastic and RGB would be the deal breaker for me no matter the price.
@davidupton6307
@davidupton6307 Ай бұрын
I’ve been wanting to purchase a new DD+ Extreme. Do you think that’s still gonna be possible? I really hope so.
@user-bp9oj5ly1k
@user-bp9oj5ly1k Ай бұрын
Do should i buy fanatec wheel because in my country (germany) this shipping is almost free and 900 can get you 8nm dd and a high quality pedals or should i settle down for 2 more years for simagic?
@tomislavpinter9709
@tomislavpinter9709 Ай бұрын
I bought the dd1 as part of a package with v3 and f1 v2.5 a year and a half ago. It's been back to them for repairs five times. The last time was about 45 days ago, and I received a new one, which only worked for 3 hours. Since then, I've only managed to exchange two emails with them because they respond every 20 days, sending emails that only procrastinate. I now have €1500 trapped because the wheelbase won't even turn on. What should I do?
@fireslayer_49
@fireslayer_49 27 күн бұрын
So is waiting till November to get the 5nm DD a good idea or should I start researching other avenues?
@racer14glr91
@racer14glr91 Ай бұрын
Shareholders are gonna become shaftholders. Not good.
@iyadkamhiyeh527
@iyadkamhiyeh527 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@storypunman
@storypunman Ай бұрын
Shareholders of this company should have learned how to read market data and balance sheets before they bought shares, just like any other company. Do research before investing your money.
@racer14glr91
@racer14glr91 Ай бұрын
@@storypunman true. Doesn't diminish the fact they're getting shafted. Within three quarters this company was ruined financially, surely it happened long before. Still one of the best sim racing equipment makers. Hopefully Corsair can right the shop without killing the brand
@AcridWater
@AcridWater Ай бұрын
Hey Kireth, where do you find these notes? Can you send the link or just tell me who to get their?
@producerevan88
@producerevan88 Ай бұрын
Oh dude, this might be the best thing that could've happened to this company. For the consumers and all the people who work at fanatec. Hopefully they keep all on the floor employees.
@immunity4soul
@immunity4soul 21 күн бұрын
Does the product line still exist and the support for sold products? Can i still buy wheels for the dd???
@dobbo4596
@dobbo4596 Ай бұрын
"It's an open letter to the banks and the supervisory board, shared as a public press release for EVERYONE, it is not a letter to one specific person...."
@Lacktausch
@Lacktausch Ай бұрын
Don’t take that away from @Kireth. He needs this.
@kontoname
@kontoname Ай бұрын
What's your point? He never said it's a letter addressed AT him, he said he got it directly forwarded TO him, in the form of, quote: "a personal copy in english". Let me try and explain it more simply, so even a trained octopus can understand: If mommy dobbo writes a letter to address a few people, then pins it to a public board where everyone can see it, but then directly notifies little dobbo4596 by sending him a personal copy, then little dobbo "got a personal copy in english". I hope that makes it a bit easier for you to understand. Please let me know if that approach didn't work and we have to use things you are more used to - like animal fables or stories with marbles or something similar. Maybe you should exchange that fighter jet avatar for something more school like - or just with an avatar of a troll since that's obviously what you were being serious (let's hope not).
@xplicitb0i
@xplicitb0i Ай бұрын
I just bouht into fanatec and got my csl dd. Should i be worried. I already received the product. Just wondering what this means for new owners.
@spraynardkruger6426
@spraynardkruger6426 Ай бұрын
After waiting for a month for my csl to come in, the day before the item was supose to ship, i got an email saying my item has been delayed another month. I cancelled it and went moza. Im so glad i did. Not only is the moza gear realy high quality, but the ecosystem that has been fanatecs greatest advantage might be going away.
@runeneirinckx9608
@runeneirinckx9608 Ай бұрын
I’m now fully settled with a good setup but i want to upgrade to qr2, is ordering still possible?
@stephenbradshaw5311
@stephenbradshaw5311 Ай бұрын
Having been at the pointy end where Thomas is now I feel empathy. I was in a similar situation and had to called a vote of no confidence in the board and removed the board and CEO and raised the funding and restructured the business accordingly. We went on to be a unicorn. In this instance for the shareholders to be offered nothing is predatory behaviour and I would be checking what options are being offered to the board and senior management as part of this process. A fair outcome would be a fair value set and then dilution of shareholders accordling set based on capital injected.
@Kireth
@Kireth Ай бұрын
Are you able to tell us more about this, it sounds very interesting?
@RugPull
@RugPull Ай бұрын
I've heard the board are being offered extremely favourable terms should they accept
@smokeybarrplays8226
@smokeybarrplays8226 Ай бұрын
Fanatec wheels are going to be lit up like a Christmas tree!
@justinchin0
@justinchin0 Ай бұрын
Wow.. That escalated quickly. I like corsair and even successfully rmaed a defective aio so their support is pretty good. Hope they can turn this around because they have some really good products and other companies console support is lacking!
@KyleWilkes-ic5hd
@KyleWilkes-ic5hd Ай бұрын
I was considering buying from fanatec. Specifically the ready to race McLaren bundle. Would this affect that?
@andsoitwas3046
@andsoitwas3046 Ай бұрын
If Fanatec can continue their normal operations with the same product quality but with the support of Corsair and sell through retailers instead of D2C, that would be amazing and a good thing for the consumers.
@Ripperx121
@Ripperx121 Ай бұрын
Please Corsair! Put this thing back together. It is a good product I love my rig. Don't want to see it go away.
@alphastratus6623
@alphastratus6623 Ай бұрын
To be fair: I have better hope for Fanatec with this than with a months long juristic fight with lawyers and stuff.
@peterensor9689
@peterensor9689 Ай бұрын
As always top notch reporting Kireth. Hmmmm, how will it turn out? Honestly, in the short term - good. Long term I feel its a disaster and fundamentally will fall to the competition.
@SaintKimbo
@SaintKimbo Ай бұрын
Why, is it a disaster in the long term? Fanatec has got a gold mine with the only real 'enthusiast' brand console DD, if Corsair build on that and capture that market, they'll be great for the long term. The 'hi end' stuff is not where the money is, it's a tiny market, like 'hi end' audio.
@tikitorchbrown1445
@tikitorchbrown1445 Ай бұрын
what about those who bought the last wheel i bought a wheel the other day there was one left and i grabbed it and it still hasnt been shipped it was a wedding gift for my husband i am in a panic what do i do??
@Gage-bz6gr
@Gage-bz6gr Ай бұрын
if fanatec does go under, will all there compatibility with console sims be wiped. like GT7 having strict conditions on what wheels can be used will there wheels just not work anymore
@dwculler
@dwculler Ай бұрын
With acquisitions they usually purchase all IP / licensing agmts / etc. So I don’t foresee it being an issue with compatibility.
@Salustmaio
@Salustmaio Ай бұрын
No i do t think soo we have already payed the chip that goes under, the problem is software updates.... maybe the new hames will not recognition the wheel....
@markvanwalsem3201
@markvanwalsem3201 Ай бұрын
@Gage-bz6gr...wouldn't be no problem for PS,since the chip is built in it's base,not in it's steering wheel like Xbox has.
@marclanghoff9789
@marclanghoff9789 Ай бұрын
Holy Moly. What's goeing on there. Absolutly crazy news. Haven't ever expected this to happen to Fanatec. 😮
@GSSimRacing
@GSSimRacing Ай бұрын
Fanatec are in negotiation with corsair. It is one of a few options available. This needs board approval and also needs to pass German policy makers. Everyone just needs to calm down. I'm really tired of the misinformation and spew at this stage. If corsair do acquire fanatec, it could be good for the longer term future of the company.
@tizscotty
@tizscotty Ай бұрын
Would be interesting to know how much of that debt VS preorders was used to sponser the real life GT Challenge for years. They definitely knew what the go was.
@lesexpos4469
@lesexpos4469 Ай бұрын
Is it a good new ? Will corsair continue to support the actual product ?
@fuze4482
@fuze4482 Ай бұрын
How long do you think it will take before we see Fanatec equipment in retail stores?
@corroded
@corroded Ай бұрын
Judging by how I hadnt even realised Corsair had even bought Elgato, I won't be surprised to see things seem at least on the surface as they are. Be behind the scenes shuffling, common roles like HR, legal, finance will likely be subject to redundancy. Seems like Corsair take a light touch. Bad news for investors, and employees who havent taken equity out as it looks like the debt they have is going to be the only money on the table I would be incredibly wary of putting any orders in with Fanatec. If they are talking about creditors restructuring deals and taking percentages then in theory they might be obliged to class any orders as a creditor too.
@nicholasspicer5171
@nicholasspicer5171 Ай бұрын
I literally got my wheel 2 days ago, only 9 days after ordering. I hope Corsair takes good care of this brand. I will be investing more money soon to get the 8nm boost kit and a clutch pedal.
@adv5684
@adv5684 Ай бұрын
I'm happy, wanted to order a Porsche racing wheel last week. luckily not done
@xandermac
@xandermac Ай бұрын
This is actually good news for the consumer. Fanatec has been ran into the ground, Corsair will turn it around, Starting with pulling all of the expensive sponsorships I would imagine.
@rickswanracing3139
@rickswanracing3139 Ай бұрын
I am very curious about the impact on existing contracts: ie the relationship with BMW for the Wheels in their GT3 cars, as well as the SRO sponsorship for the GT race series. I suspect those too will end as well depending on bankruptcy laws... I suspect those laws would allow the company to walk away from those financial obligations too.
@UnboxRacing
@UnboxRacing Ай бұрын
That's a decent acquisition and brighter news for Fanatec "fans".
@vladimirtalijan
@vladimirtalijan Ай бұрын
Do you really think that Corsair understands sim racing or even wants to innovate? No. This will be Apple after Jobs left, I said it after the first news emerged about this. Buy your proper Fanatec gear now, everything about Fanatec will just become a business plan, like most companies in the world operate. I will follow Jackermeier and his new company, if that ever happens.
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO Ай бұрын
@@vladimirtalijan Why would you follow someone who ran fanatec into the ground so stock holders lost everything? I bet he even had a golden parachute, ensuring he would not change course. Like it or not, he and the board worked together on this. Stuff like this does not happen on accident. They ran the company into the ground to benefit themselves.
@tjantilag
@tjantilag Ай бұрын
​@@vladimirtalijan Endor is a large company with a board, you don't think the bottom line is also their main concern.
@Bigheadedwon
@Bigheadedwon Ай бұрын
Or, this will be Corsair adding the Fanatec software into iCUE. So you'll need to install one of the most bloated, memory hogging programs out there to properly use your Fanatec gear. And Corsair stuff tends to be on the pricier side. So expect to pay more. They'll probably add RGB into the bases and everywhere else. Which would be a plus for some.
@Bigheadedwon
@Bigheadedwon Ай бұрын
@@_PatrickO From what I've gathered, it was a poorly run company, with incredibly bad customer service. And they made a huge mistake by way overselling what they could deliver last Black Friday. In the racing community, they've pretty much permanently stained their name in a lot of people's eyes. I don't think they'll leave this deal with any sort of upside. They were teetering on bankruptcy and got lucky someone bought them. People have been complaining about them for a long time now, if they ran the company into the ground purposely, they're morons.
@Rancidnova
@Rancidnova Ай бұрын
Great coverage Kireth!
@hillboy2001
@hillboy2001 Ай бұрын
I hope we get better support of the products after Corsair fully takes over. Honestly, I have way more faith in Corsair then Fanatec!
@martin4458
@martin4458 Ай бұрын
I ordered my second GT DD pro about 3 months ago. It took 2 weeks to arrive. UPS had it a week, so they're partly to blame. The DD pro is epic and it seems Fanatec have changed the rubber on the wheel, as it is not flaking in the hand the way it did on the DD pro i bought in late 2022.
@bryang2895
@bryang2895 Ай бұрын
Well, I guess that's it for me and fanatec . I've been doing some research about the Logitech G-Pro and the only complaint is there lacking in accessories department and I'm sure they will produce in time but pretty solid overall. looks like My new Go to
@kaitonasach
@kaitonasach Ай бұрын
As someone who is new to the simracing scene, I am impartial to all this atm but had heard good things about Fanatec until recent as I was looking at upgrading my wheel and pedals later this year from my G29 stuff. Still not sure what to think about this currently but I have no ill thoughts about Corsair atm either considering I've bought Elgato products and they were still really high quality.
@HelloMyNameIsZON3
@HelloMyNameIsZON3 Ай бұрын
Imagine being the flagship sim racing wheel maker and losing money ? Wtf
@PhysXSTYLE
@PhysXSTYLE Ай бұрын
as long as they offer support for current products for example my csl dd etc then I am happy with this.
@Butterfingers1989
@Butterfingers1989 Ай бұрын
Pretty good news if this happens. Corsair never dissapointed me with their products.
@filipivan5125
@filipivan5125 Ай бұрын
Im glad a known and well established brand is taking over. I agree they are most likely gonna turn fanatec into entry or middle tier product offerings. It also means shipping wont be handled from Germany only and it will be easier to get their stock outside of EU.
@Xero5273
@Xero5273 Ай бұрын
Wow. Can't say u didn't see it coming, but still kinda surprised. I just got into sim racing not long ago. Guess i joined at a strange time in sim racing history.
@Kireth
@Kireth Ай бұрын
Hope you've found it interesting to follow through the videos!
@user-py4lq5wu8h
@user-py4lq5wu8h Ай бұрын
It's really to bad as their stuff I feel is good especially for the price, I got lucky apparently as my bundle arrived last week, very impressed so far!
@The_Mup
@The_Mup Ай бұрын
I'm really glad i got my paypal refund back in January. Fanatec didn't even bother responding to the Paypal dispute.
@kelvingomersall7460
@kelvingomersall7460 Ай бұрын
We all wanna know what happens to warrantyyyyy? My fixed wheel is due to be returned on the 13th, will this still happen? Will they still honour warranty?
@KryssN1
@KryssN1 29 күн бұрын
If they go under or even before, no warranty as they will be insolvent to pay for workers and production
@codywright2890
@codywright2890 Ай бұрын
So can i return my purchase l i just got a week ago??? How does this work? Im so nervous man. My wheel has a viloent shake when idle... im freaking out
@phantomspa
@phantomspa Ай бұрын
Change your wheel settings. It's probably F.E.I.
@BeFreeBeHappyJC
@BeFreeBeHappyJC Ай бұрын
I have watched everything you have covered regarding Fanatec as being a customer of theirs. I am saddened by what’s happened to Fanatec however this all seems to be necessary to save the company and sell to someone else who can turn it around. I wonder what this means in terms of console compatibility for the future for PS5 & XBOX.
@MorrWorm8
@MorrWorm8 Ай бұрын
I don’t care if your a fan or not ANYONE pushing fanatec through Their affiliate links without warning their subscribers and channel members should be ashamed of themselves. I’m not going to say any names. They know who they are.
@Maned_X
@Maned_X Ай бұрын
While I am a fan of Corsair and like/use their products, They are totally a boutique brand for pc stuff. So it will be cool to see what they do, and they will prolly fix a lot of stuff very fast. Just be ready for the boutique price tags on the already expensive gear.
@Eskoxo
@Eskoxo Ай бұрын
Honestly not surprised at all probably many bigger companies considered this purchase while its price is low and Corsair is right up the gaming alley. It's good in the way that with Corsair resources should mostly fix the issues they have but not so good that big corporations absorb smaller companies.
@kevinwalsh8524
@kevinwalsh8524 Ай бұрын
This seems like very good news. I use an Elgato Stream Deck on my sim racing rig and I love it. It’s a great product. Corsair already makes excellent streaming products, so buying Fanatec seems like a good fit. Expanding into the sim racing space appears to be a logical step.
@CitarNosis506
@CitarNosis506 Ай бұрын
I love Corsair and I use their keyboards for my sim rig and another one for gaming on my desk and some stuffs inside my PC also come from Corsair and I'm very happy with it, so I really like that news.
@ivana6141
@ivana6141 Ай бұрын
Hope corsair keeps the fanatec branding
@Butterfingers1989
@Butterfingers1989 Ай бұрын
They always did so far with what they aquiered.
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO Ай бұрын
They should shift everything to the US and slap sail logos all over it. It would make sense to clean house because the company was ran into the ground by its current management.
@JilleDeMon
@JilleDeMon Ай бұрын
They probably wont because Elgato is still named elgato
@MegaIronica
@MegaIronica Ай бұрын
They would be stupid to do so. Why pay millions to aquire a very well-known brand and then change the name they pay for? 😂
@JilleDeMon
@JilleDeMon Ай бұрын
@@MegaIronica ikr🤣
@Okolokole
@Okolokole Ай бұрын
anyone knows where can I get replacement load cell for csl load cell pedals?
@Stevie_GT
@Stevie_GT Ай бұрын
Maybe the whole order system will be fixed i ordered the csl DDpro 5 months ago i had an email saying my shipping had been complete. Stood there scratching my head with No DD pro i emailed back and had said i hadnt actually received my Fanatec products all to be told that its not there fault they had completed there half of the purchase agreement by shipping it out, so basically its not our fault thanks for the money goodbye
@MarkNOTW
@MarkNOTW 26 күн бұрын
Did you file a claim with the credit card company?
@Vortigon
@Vortigon Ай бұрын
It's probably the best thing that could have happened to save the company - but if you are a shareholder you will be shafted and expect the quality of the products to plummet to make them more profitable.
@kosmokaziracing
@kosmokaziracing Ай бұрын
They DO need to utilize retailers.
@PanacheConnection
@PanacheConnection Ай бұрын
It's a bit of a mixed bag with the prospect of Corsair taking over Fanatec. On one side I'm thinking are they really a company ideal in carrying on Fanatec's legacy. True, they do make gaming peripheral but that consists of gaming keyboards, mice and headsets. Also high end gaming controllers if you take into consideration that they own SCUF Gaming. I've used their peripheral devices in the past and it was average at best. You could tell that the designers had the typical "that will do" mentality you typically see with large corporate companies where they build their products to the functional level and go no further. That being said their primary income if from computer components and in that line they do excel. Where I work we have installed a lot of their products in our servers and work stations. I also have some of their Components on my own rig such as the RAM and CPU AIO cooler ( which happens to be over 9 years old and still hasn't formed any bubbles you normally see with ageing AIO liquid coolers). Their warranty return procedures have been top notch on a corporate level but I cannot say how it will be for an independent private customer. That being said, they really don't have much experience with actual sim related hardware. I was personally hoping a more race sim focused company would come forward, but this maybe a blessing in disguise. I don't think Corsair currently have the necessary staff under their employment who will be able to take on where fanatec has left off, which means there is a high probability that they will still hold on to the current fanatec staff at least as far a R&D and manufacturing is concerned. Also if we look into Corsair's history, they acquired SCUF Gaming in 2019, I believe, and decided to continue running it as SCUF Gaming, a sister company instead of bringing it directly under the Corsair brand name. Even after their acquisition they still continue to build high end custom gaming controllers. Seeing this, there is a possibility that Fanatec will continue under the same name and I am hoping they will still be able to produce high end products. However, this is pure speculation on my part but I'm sure you all can see my logic here. BTW thank's Kireth for keeping us update, it's been a real journey so far. Seeing Fanatec's journey over the past year thanks to your channel has left me slightly heartbroken (My first Fanatec product was the Le Mans back in 1999), disgusted and fascinated all at the same time.
@pmx360
@pmx360 Ай бұрын
I always sayd that if Fanatec customer service department works as good as PR and developers support, it would be a different story. Now we know how important is to not ignore your customers!
@danielcase2189
@danielcase2189 Ай бұрын
Do you think corsairs stick will go up from this acquisition?
@jordanbondurantRVA
@jordanbondurantRVA Ай бұрын
Just absolutely wild. I almost emigrated to Germany from here in the US in 2017 to work for Fanatec. I still have my contract with Endor. Thomas seemed like a nice enough guy, but having met some of the other company officers during the hiring process, it was very clear there was something going on behind the scenes even then. They weren’t very helpful in terms of helping me acquire the proper documentation to move, so I had to walk away.
@jordanbondurantRVA
@jordanbondurantRVA Ай бұрын
The same week I flew to Landshut to see the office, sign my contract and all that, it was the week the new Gran Turismo game came out, and there was a bunch of blowback because Fanatec’s equipment weren’t working or didn’t have Sony clearance or something IIRC. It was crazy to see their PR staff work to put out statements and the like.
@immunity4soul
@immunity4soul 21 күн бұрын
They went wrong paying licensing fees for the wheels. They should have made replicas that were branded fanatec. They also should have no made anything past the first dd and stopped at 8nm. Made it incredibly realistic and reliable with a huge selection of wheels. They would have killed it.
@Randomii666
@Randomii666 Ай бұрын
It's been a quite fucked up situation, but at least it gives some hope that it's a company like Corsair buying out Fanatec. I personally wouldn't really care what happens or doesn't happen to a company, if their products didn't need software support. I already got my gear and i only want them to be supported in possible future releases as well
@Lemming1970
@Lemming1970 Ай бұрын
Corsair sounds like a good fit TBH. Might even get them into retail shops, overclockers/Scan etc. Got to be better than sending money and waiting for months. It's sad but hopefully it means Fanatec survives and customers have continuing support.
@Bogarttherideop
@Bogarttherideop Ай бұрын
I hope then when Corsair comes and takes ownership that all the products stay the same and that they are just the ones managing the company to prevent future complications.
@karlmibus5724
@karlmibus5724 Ай бұрын
Is it a bad time to buy Fanatec gear right now then? Im in the market for my first simrig, and the CSL Ready-to-Race bundle is so cheap compared to the rest of the market! Can buy a 8nm CSL DD with lc pedals and wheel for the same price as a Simagic Mini ($1000aud). It's honestly a no brainer. Just remember this is my first rig/experience with racing wheels. All items say they are in stock in Australian warehouse. Will this recent news affect me, the consumer, with Fanatec in the future? What should I be wary of? Or should I not buy Fanatec until things stabalise? What other brands/offers should I look at as a budget option?
@KryssN1
@KryssN1 29 күн бұрын
It is, it’s very bad idea. They have no money, they could go under any time and you could get no refund and no product and no warranty in case if you ever get the product
@ericrichardson6868
@ericrichardson6868 Ай бұрын
Great vid. @kireth, you said at fanatec you saw a dedicated and passionate work force, I just hope Corsair let's the fanatec employees do their thing in developing and improving products, and not just lay them off and have Corsair folks take over.
@garrybartlett6853
@garrybartlett6853 22 күн бұрын
It finally came (28th May)... !!! Is it true that half the buttons can't be mapped on XBOX...?
@Pustul
@Pustul Ай бұрын
How can they sell so many stuff on Black Friday that it takes month to fulfill all the orders and at the same time be on the verge of bankruptcy? We all knew Fanatec was mismanaged but this has reached a whole new level!
@KryssN1
@KryssN1 29 күн бұрын
The BF sale were their “fund” raiser to avoid bankruptcy, they knew what they were doing. They did not have the product ready, but needed cash.
@ArturoDrives
@ArturoDrives Ай бұрын
The fact that I just got a fanatic ad before watching this is crazy
@stevep927
@stevep927 Ай бұрын
What I want to know is why and how they ran out of money. I also would like to know if the customers pre orders will be fulfilled or get a refund
@LogiForce86
@LogiForce86 Ай бұрын
Driver 457 (Beta - Release Candidate) has just added support for the Bentley wheel. So I am sure that they will release it because it's ready to go basically.
@johnkendall7186
@johnkendall7186 Ай бұрын
Are they still taking orders and shipping?
@Superdummy803
@Superdummy803 Ай бұрын
As someone that is thinking of getting into sim racing right now. I has decided to make Fanatec my source for peripherals. Thank good ness I saw this video. I am so glad I didn't drop a couple k dollars buying from a company that won't be here in 6 months. Dodged a literal bullet...
@ndrb7596
@ndrb7596 22 күн бұрын
I ordered the McLaren bundle and got it in 8 days and I’m overseas
@Mike22xt
@Mike22xt Ай бұрын
It would be a great time for one of the high end pc sim dd wheel brand to add console support.
@getcarter4dynamo
@getcarter4dynamo Ай бұрын
I hope corsair honour all outstanding orders that customers-to-be have made. Probably not a bad thing having Corsair being the owner as they are a pretty large company and considerably larger reach and better global logistics and larger manufacturing output.
@silvio5006
@silvio5006 Ай бұрын
I'm happy that since my Ascher Racing Mclaren Artura Ultimate wheel is in my hands I'm not having any fanatec gear on my rig by all this confusing information around the brand Fanatec... 🙏🙏Good luck to all Fanatec users...
@Kireth
@Kireth Ай бұрын
I'm using that wheel at the moment and it's great. I'm using it with Fanatec pedals 🙃
@FilthyCasualRacing
@FilthyCasualRacing Ай бұрын
Back watching this again. Don't know why I'm obsessed with this, but I know I wish they would get this settled. Not sure if I should stick with buying Fanatec stuff or think about looking elsewhere. I really like my Fanatec Stuff too, but if I can't get support and newer products then I don't want to stay in the ecosystem.
@bdd4228
@bdd4228 Ай бұрын
Does this mean we should start buying CRSR stocks?
@gregg2k
@gregg2k Ай бұрын
I've always had good experiences with corsair, even RMA. I actually think this will work out rly well.
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