Breaking the wall of ruminative anxious thought

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University of York

University of York

6 жыл бұрын

Mladen Sormaz argues that we can disrupt the faulty neural networks involved in anxiety disorders using a smart phone app to interrupt and distract people, restoring mental order.

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@ir0n2541
@ir0n2541 3 жыл бұрын
I guess this is why people get addicted to games, and play them for hours a day. it's to constantly break them out of the cycle of ruminative thought.
@mack-attack-420
@mack-attack-420 3 жыл бұрын
I've noticed myself binging KZfaq to get away from my own thoughts. Anything to distract yourself
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 3 жыл бұрын
@@mack-attack-420 Only if thought rumination becomes too much consulting a psychologist may be needed. Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-stress. For a relaxed life without anxiety-negative thoughts sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax. During your daily activity keep observing your breath consciously. Best part is mood swings also reduce. Do the above meditation daily to feel relaxed. For more relaxation enter the following on google search and listen before sleep repeating the affirmations in your mind. -“52Hz affirmations for health and healing you tube”. Find peace of mind. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor.
@mack-attack-420
@mack-attack-420 3 жыл бұрын
@@shyaaammeneen63 funny you should mention this now, just today I've been noticing my breath more and allowing it to calm me down. Its helped me become happier and calmer. I'll give the video you mentioned a try, thanks. Have a good day
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 3 жыл бұрын
@@mack-attack-420 The affirmations at night before sleep will also help you a lot because the subconscious mind is reprogrammed for relaxation. I listen to them every night for 10 minutes. Take up challenges in life. God is there with you. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir-Counsellor.
@asafc5250
@asafc5250 3 жыл бұрын
story of my life
@rowenabisschoff
@rowenabisschoff 3 жыл бұрын
Found this in the middle of the night while ruminating. I use immersive games and worried that I was trying to escape from my problems. 🤣 Thanks for a lot of validation!!
@lalinera8279
@lalinera8279 Жыл бұрын
Omg yes, I just found this and I feel soooo validated. I thought I was waiting time by playing a games for few mins. I got the green card from this video 😁
@katieduffy3634
@katieduffy3634 3 жыл бұрын
I ruminate a lot and it ruins my life. I’m very interested in this, thank you for studying it snd sharing your findings. ❤️
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 3 жыл бұрын
Ka tie, Only if thought rumination becomes too much consulting a psychologist may be needed. You can heal yourself. Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-stress. For a relaxed life without anxiety-negative thoughts sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax. During your daily activity keep observing your breath consciously. Best part is mood swings also reduce. Do the above meditation daily to feel relaxed. For more relaxation enter the following on google search and listen before sleep repeating the affirmations in your mind. -“52Hz affirmations for health and healing you tube”. Find peace of mind. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor.
@musicandpoetry_8
@musicandpoetry_8 Жыл бұрын
Someone could say something in such a harsh and cruel manner and it just goes around and round in my head for so long, I have some of them in my head right now and I don’t even think they’ll go away..it’s terrifying
@PaddyIrishman
@PaddyIrishman 2 жыл бұрын
I have been ruminating incessantly since I got involved in drugs in my twenties. That combined with a violent household and having almost gone to prison, seemed to set something off in my brain. I could ruminate for every single hour of every day while awake, for the best part of a decade. Less so now, but it's still there and ruins my days. In the past, I did find the only time I did not ruminate was when I was deep in a task, physical work or video gaming. it's ruined most of my relationships and had me in and out of a few psychologists and CBT nurses.
@ivanfugazi5779
@ivanfugazi5779 Жыл бұрын
I feel you bro going through something similar rn 😢
@PaddyIrishman
@PaddyIrishman Жыл бұрын
@@ivanfugazi5779 Man, definitely seek some help. here are therapists who specifically help and also a thing I discovered is my gut had been destroyed by stress, which has led to a good portion of my depression, anxiety and paranoia. I would advise you to find out if you have issues with your gut/intestine. I had to go for a colonoscopy, and endoscopy and they found I have a chronic issue. There's so much info coming to now about the link between your gut and your brain. Remember the old sayings, trust your gut, or I have a gut feeling. It's literally all connected. I hope this helps 🙏
@chrispeers4111
@chrispeers4111 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been ruminating severely for the past 2 years now. It’s taken everything from me, I don’t know what I’m ruminating about though that’s the thing…I think im ruminating about ruminating. But I’m constantly negative and I can’t enjoy anything as I feel as though I have to focus on this thing. I’m never fully present
@townbythetown
@townbythetown 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 34 and I just realized that I have add. Thought loops, anxiety, focus issues, but also something I can’t describe well. I’d be interested in hearing if anyone feels the same- it’s almost like a very intense claustrophobia feeling but in regards to the place I am. I’ve been moving around my entire adult life. I’ll fell fine for a few weeks then I’ll get the claustrophobia anxiety feeling and only feel alright when I’m in transition again. I can’t describe it too well but it’s honestly a worse feeling than any depression or sadness I’ve ever had. Because the feeling is so frantic and pressing like it’s an emergency that I have to leave. My worst fear is being a wanderer for life but I struggle so badly with this. Any insights would be greatly appreciated
@Dawghome
@Dawghome Жыл бұрын
Having been a single parent since 21 years old, for me & this is just how my story goes, but I experienced very similar feelings for a good few years. At 23, I found myself in dire straights so entered a therapeutic center to beg for help! I knew I couldn't cure myself in a vacuum! So, as a kid growing up, I was moved around frequently, so... having a kid I was in charge of I felt it might be just as damaging to him if he too was frequently uprooted. If I could do that to him, what was I running from? There may be several things at play within your experiences, & I think you did a pretty good job describing how you experience your cycles. In my now 64 years, I've gotten myself diagnosed D.I.D. twice in my adult life and doing all I can to improve things in my life and recovery. I've been extremely unhappy in recent years & reverted to some old behaviours & being self destructive, or habitual with KZfaq and internet. Now? I'm choosing to learn better self-love actions, meditation/s, going for walks, but I referred to meditation because with those I'm attracted to, are where I've to focus, sit with me and how I feel, focussing on trying to relax beginning with 10 minuets to begin with & as time goes by, for longer periods of time. I wish you well on your journey of discovery. (Edit), just reread your post. My nickname with my work colleagues when I was 17 years old was, 'the wanderer'!!
@townbythetown
@townbythetown Жыл бұрын
@Dawg Home I appreciate your comment. I’ll start with ten minutes today. I think part of my problem is the knowledge that there are thousands of different lives I could live in thousands of different places. So when I find myself in one of them, I feel I’m missing out and I want to experience the others. Also maybe I’m addicted to the feeling of being in transition or maybe I am just running from things. Hoping some day I’ll figure it out
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 Жыл бұрын
@@Dawghome In life there are 2 main problems--mind and the body. . For overthinking problem be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself with others, reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Your breathing is related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath sensations at the entrance of the nostrils for 5-10-15 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down on the bed--eyes closed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Never meditate with expectations but with self-awareness. Observe your breath anywhere -anytime-- before sleep, when travelling, taking a walk, etc with eyes open or closed. Like me make breath observing a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 Жыл бұрын
@@townbythetown In life there are 2 main problems--mind and the body. . For overthinking problem be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself with others, reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Your breathing is related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath sensations at the entrance of the nostrils for 5-10-15 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down on the bed--eyes closed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Never meditate with expectations but with self-awareness. Observe your breath anywhere -anytime-- before sleep, when travelling, taking a walk, etc with eyes open or closed. Like me make breath observing a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@JesusSaves77799
@JesusSaves77799 Жыл бұрын
@@Dawghome I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I would recommend giving your life over to God and asking the Holy Spirit to enter your heart and accepting Jesus Christ as God and God’s Son. Then ask God to guide you with how you can best serve Him. I found this is best found in helping others. Ask God to lead you and then the focus will be off of you and put in His Hands. Also look for some great Christian pastors and speakers online to help guide you, and find a good Church as well. I think in living without a purpose is where we get to aimlessly wandering. God created us in His Image to Glorify Him. I pray for God to help you and help lead you in Jesus’s Holy Name, Amen! 🙏💖
@zurizoraya8672
@zurizoraya8672 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. . I can really try this method to keep me from obsessing about the negative things that have happen in my life and reprogram my brain in a way :) Its crazy that I came across this video because I just decided the other day I need to refocus my thoughts.
@randomnessanimation6831
@randomnessanimation6831 3 жыл бұрын
I been ruminating my whole life, I always end up crying and blaming myself for all the bad memories I’ve had. Any suggestions?
@edmondlonergan9915
@edmondlonergan9915 3 жыл бұрын
pray the rosary..
@dukeanddauphindonald8849
@dukeanddauphindonald8849 3 жыл бұрын
@Sobnom Mostari Good idea
@five-forty3431
@five-forty3431 3 жыл бұрын
@Sobnom Mostari Excellent! Thank you
@FerventlyUnderstanding
@FerventlyUnderstanding 3 жыл бұрын
Try journaling, and continue watching helpful videos on youtube about self therapy, I’m struggling with this too and it’s helping me to do this. Mainly I think it is a bad mental habit! And you must work to be more aware and to break the habit of negative overthinking. Goodluck! 🤍
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 3 жыл бұрын
@@FerventlyUnderstanding Only if thought rumination becomes too much consulting a psychologist may be needed. Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-stress. For a relaxed life without anxiety-negative thoughts sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax. During your daily activity keep observing your breath consciously. Best part is mood swings also reduce. Do the above meditation daily to feel relaxed. For more relaxation enter the following on google search and listen before sleep repeating the affirmations in your mind. -“52Hz affirmations for health and healing you tube”. Find peace of mind. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor.
@veryconfused9768
@veryconfused9768 Жыл бұрын
that clock thingy giving me massive panic attack. my worrry is not having enough time and lord this thing scared me
@pan2990
@pan2990 3 жыл бұрын
Tetris is fantastic for breaking negative ruminations.
@shashwatpriyadarshi972
@shashwatpriyadarshi972 3 жыл бұрын
Tetris?
@pan2990
@pan2990 3 жыл бұрын
@@shashwatpriyadarshi972 yep, short burst of task oriented problem solving. Breaks the cycle.
@shashwatpriyadarshi972
@shashwatpriyadarshi972 3 жыл бұрын
@@pan2990 examples?
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 3 жыл бұрын
​@@shashwatpriyadarshi972 Only if thought rumination becomes too much consulting a psychologist may be needed. You can heal yourself. Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-negative thoughts. For a relaxed life without anxiety-negative thoughts sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax. During your daily activity keep observing your breath consciously. Best part is mood swings also reduce. Do the above meditation daily to feel relaxed. For more relaxation enter the following on google search and listen before sleep repeating the affirmations in your mind. -“52Hz affirmations for health and healing you tube”. Find peace of mind. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor.
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 3 жыл бұрын
@@pan2990 ​Only if thought rumination becomes too much consulting a psychologist may be needed. You can heal yourself. Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-negative thoughts. For a relaxed life without anxiety-negative thoughts sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax. During your daily activity keep observing your breath consciously. Best part is mood swings also reduce. Do the above meditation daily to feel relaxed. For more relaxation enter the following on google search and listen before sleep repeating the affirmations in your mind. -“52Hz affirmations for health and healing you tube”. Find peace of mind. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor.
@nancybelli
@nancybelli 3 жыл бұрын
I love this, thank you!
@BlueFlyer83
@BlueFlyer83 3 жыл бұрын
VERY intriguing. I've been having regular issues with rumination and the only thing I could find that helps is a distraction of some sort. Problem is I can't find one distraction that works regularly. Guess I'll have to try Tetris.
@amandaconnell653
@amandaconnell653 Жыл бұрын
I play chess or draughts on my phone & it breaks the anxiety loop. I also say to myself, " it's just a thought, it's not real, doesn't mean that the anxiety predictions will happen. Have to practice daily.
@makaylabratz969
@makaylabratz969 3 жыл бұрын
My ruminating has gotten worse in the last 2 years. This sounds like a great idea, except my ruminating is at its worst when I'm driving. I'm open to learning more.
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 3 жыл бұрын
Ma kayla, Only if thought rumination becomes too much consulting a psychologist may be needed. You can heal yourself. Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-stress. For a relaxed life without anxiety-negative thoughts sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax. During your daily activity keep observing your breath consciously. Best part is mood swings also reduce. Do the above meditation daily to feel relaxed. For more relaxation enter the following on google search and listen before sleep repeating the affirmations in your mind. -“52Hz affirmations for health and healing you tube”. Find peace of mind. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor.
@aryanchauhan524
@aryanchauhan524 2 жыл бұрын
What type of thoughts you have while you are in ruminating phase
@maxhalliwell
@maxhalliwell 2 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation young man 👍
@user-rh3ox6tt1t
@user-rh3ox6tt1t 2 жыл бұрын
So once your ruminating thoughts get distracted by playing the game and then when you stop what happens? How can the effect be continuously effective even after stopping playing? Wonder how it works. If the impacts of it are too short the person is gonna be addicted to the game I reckon. Then it’s like hiding the problem behind another problem.
@christinagreaves7932
@christinagreaves7932 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds so interesting
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 Жыл бұрын
Very useful video. For overthinking problem be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself with others, reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Your breathing is related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath sensations at the entrance of the nostrils for 5-10-15 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down on the bed--eyes closed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Never meditate with expectations but with self-awareness. Observe your breath anywhere -anytime-- before sleep, at work, when travelling, taking a walk, etc with eyes open or closed. Like me make breath observing a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@ronmossman8136
@ronmossman8136 Жыл бұрын
Your comments are more helpful than the video.
@jaybenjamin5649
@jaybenjamin5649 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what app it is as I would love to get back tomy
@MrSzoSs
@MrSzoSs 3 ай бұрын
I’d argue against this as im now ruminating and it’s very crippling to be constantly overanalyzing everything that has just happened. Im basically a gaming addict and play games much more immersive and stimulating than Tetris and it might work to help escape these thoughts for sometime but they come back even when im gaming. Compulsive escapism will only bring much larger consequences.
@prosperouseye
@prosperouseye Жыл бұрын
Before I listen to all this does he mention a food we can eat, a supplement to take, medicine to ingest or process that can help those of us who ruminate so much we can't even sleep...get a hold on this?
@ayushansh7384
@ayushansh7384 2 жыл бұрын
My problem was very different from most of the people it's actually is rumination about ghost existence or exorcism like things pls someone give me positive answer regarding it...
@vikasgupta1828
@vikasgupta1828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Dwelleronthethreshold89
@Dwelleronthethreshold89 3 жыл бұрын
Great, more dependency.
@coryacker3809
@coryacker3809 3 жыл бұрын
what's the app name??
@Patrick-qp5ov
@Patrick-qp5ov 3 жыл бұрын
Does this app exist if so what is it called please
@tvpssskchukai
@tvpssskchukai Жыл бұрын
It works,thanks..😀
@hsedo2126
@hsedo2126 3 жыл бұрын
I'm finding myself becoming anxious and down a bit lately and just being in my head most of the time. How do I break from this?
@jackjones9611
@jackjones9611 3 жыл бұрын
I understand completely. I’ve tried medication and got some relief but what he is saying distract yourself as soon as it starts. I’ve told myself “stop” aloud. It’s all easier said than done but it takes time. I hope you are doing better. I’m with you in spirit.
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 3 жыл бұрын
Sedo, Only if thought rumination becomes too much consulting a psychologist may be needed. You can heal yourself. Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-stress. For a relaxed life without anxiety-negative thoughts sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax. During your daily activity keep observing your breath consciously. Best part is mood swings also reduce. Do the above meditation daily to feel relaxed. For more relaxation enter the following on google search and listen before sleep repeating the affirmations in your mind. -“52Hz affirmations for health and healing you tube”. Find peace of mind. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor.
@nimimerkillinen
@nimimerkillinen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, been doing blitz or bullet chess instead
@ShannicanSkywalker
@ShannicanSkywalker 2 жыл бұрын
See I’ll be playing those games and still ruminating those anxious thoughts. Then any time I play that particular game I think about what I was thinking about at the time of rumination. It’s a sickness I’m trying to heal
@nimimerkillinen
@nimimerkillinen 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a game you haven habituated too much but its not too hard or easy either?
@user-zi3qs8fh5l
@user-zi3qs8fh5l Жыл бұрын
Same if i try to distract myself i find myself ruminating on my rumination💀how are you now?
@someguy752
@someguy752 Жыл бұрын
What's the app his talking about?
@ashtynpendley6942
@ashtynpendley6942 2 жыл бұрын
I had a mental breakdown in 2021 due to rumination and now it’s happening again. I’m terrified and I do not know what to do
@drsirwilliamthethirdjr
@drsirwilliamthethirdjr 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I got caught in a nasty rumination cycle a couple years ago. It is starting to come back and I don't know what I am going to do.
@shyaaammeneen63
@shyaaammeneen63 Жыл бұрын
@@drsirwilliamthethirdjr . For overthinking problem be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself with others, reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Your breathing is related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath sensations at the entrance of the nostrils for 5-10-15 minutes or more. You can sit or lay down on the bed--eyes closed--No deep breathing. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Never meditate with expectations but with self-awareness. Observe your breath anywhere -anytime-- before sleep, at work, when travelling, taking a walk, etc with eyes open or closed. Like me make breath observing a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
@musicandpoetry_8
@musicandpoetry_8 Жыл бұрын
Why do I have this and barely anyone else does :(( ughhh
@pawlogates
@pawlogates Жыл бұрын
Literally me 😩
@musicandpoetry_8
@musicandpoetry_8 Жыл бұрын
@@pawlogates im mentally ill as all hell , it really sucks
@pawlogates
@pawlogates Жыл бұрын
@@musicandpoetry_8 yeah and its just so painfull when its both that and being mostly alone in college maybe even partly due to that :c
@musicandpoetry_8
@musicandpoetry_8 Жыл бұрын
@@pawlogates yeah I’m alone too :((
@VladyslavKL
@VladyslavKL 2 жыл бұрын
🦋
@silvianosanchez8166
@silvianosanchez8166 2 жыл бұрын
I have a really odd ruminating thought(s), that ruin my life and I fall into the worse of depressions. Every time I am in a relationship, the first 2-3 months are great. After that, I start ruminating about my girlfriend's past. I start thinking about why they stayed in relationships that according to them, they were miserable in. My mind starts judging this person that when I started the relationship with them, I thought they were smart and strong women. Now I see them as weak and stupid women. I don't want to, but it happens. I do have to admit, that this rumination starts as soon as I start fighting and arguing with my girlfriend. Maybe it's a way of my brain telling me that I'm in an unhealthy relationship or that this person I am dating, has a lot of emotional trauma...which has always been the case. I seem to attract women that look fine at first, but once I get intimate with them, and the arguments start, the ruminations start and I fall into a deep depression in which I just want to die. The pain is real and unbearable. I'm going through this right now, again. And I'm really ready to throw in the towel on this living thing. Someone out there that has conquered or greatly improved, please help me. Again, I think by rumination is unique, but if you have the exact ruminations, please help me.
@xsuburbanxheartx
@xsuburbanxheartx 2 жыл бұрын
i’m not an expert by any means, but look into relationship ocd maybe? i hope it gets better for you
@cherishburke4598
@cherishburke4598 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Narcissism
@IrishMexican
@IrishMexican Жыл бұрын
So in summary: Tetris has cured anxiety
@SonOfManMusic
@SonOfManMusic 8 ай бұрын
nice
@right..5651
@right..5651 6 ай бұрын
"I can do all things through CHRIST who strengthens me". ❤✝️🙏
@demaskatorr
@demaskatorr 9 ай бұрын
@tumsenbasar1443
@tumsenbasar1443 Жыл бұрын
Iam ruminating over my iq I can't stop thinking about it.
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