Breaking Ulalek, Fused Monstrosity out of the box 🛠 Eldrazi Incursion Precon Upgrade

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Commander Mechanic

Commander Mechanic

16 күн бұрын

The Eldrazi Incursion precon is a great start to building an Eldrazi Deck in Commander, but how to we make the MOST of Ulalek, Fused Monstrosity? And where did they come from??
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@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 14 күн бұрын
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@inujuju
@inujuju 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for going through things at a slower pace! As someone who struggles with the stack, it means a lot that you walk us through it so we can better understand.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 14 күн бұрын
Glad to help!
@themadstudent
@themadstudent 12 күн бұрын
Spreading Plague is a must-have inclusion to a mostly devoid deck. It's backbreaking.
@oecus2786
@oecus2786 14 күн бұрын
Your lore is incorrect Ulalek is before the gate watch where Ulamog and Kozilek spawn in the same spot creating a brood from both.
@alexortiz9777
@alexortiz9777 14 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm really curious where he got his info from 😓
@BorealGames
@BorealGames 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, immediately paused there as I was extremely confused as to where this lore is from. Ulalek's pamphlet states that Ulalek appeared on a plane that has long since been drained of its mana
@flyingby3703
@flyingby3703 2 күн бұрын
I know this is mainly anecdotal knowledge, but Eldrazi Conscription won me game with this deck that I was sure to lose. I was playing against my friend who ran my Zhulodok deck, and right before he was able to hit me for an unblockable commander damage kill (we‘re two boardwipes into the game), I drew and cast Eldrazi conscription, copied it with ulalek, put both on him and oneshot with commander damage. Suddenly the 2/5 is a voltron commander and can retaliate like crazy. IMO that alone was cool enough for me to keep it in.
@localsjazz0000
@localsjazz0000 2 күн бұрын
this was an amazing commentary and walk through good job!
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 күн бұрын
glad you enjoyed!
@ZOMBI3JAY
@ZOMBI3JAY 13 күн бұрын
Thanks! This is the video I was looking for to hook up my commander deck. Very clear and detailed!
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 13 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@IngloriousGambler
@IngloriousGambler 12 күн бұрын
I think Animar, Soul of Elements could be a great include. If its trigger is doubled once or twice with Ulalek, you'll cast your big guys for almost nothing, having ore mana left to pump Animar and in return saving even more on casting the next one and using Ulalek.
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 11 күн бұрын
You are an evil genius. It is skirting away from tribal but it is very synergistic.
@PowerCrazedGengar
@PowerCrazedGengar 9 күн бұрын
I Believe animar is a passive ability, not triggered or activated. All though i hope im wrong simply because i would love this combo
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 9 күн бұрын
@@PowerCrazedGengar The +1/+1 counters are a trigger and the cost reduction is a passive. So, the combo works and it would gain counters twice as fast.
@lunk2551
@lunk2551 8 күн бұрын
Animar is a better commander then inclusion
@Shoyro
@Shoyro 12 күн бұрын
Capricious One comes to mind. Throw in Rogue's Passage with it and every time it deals damage, it creates Spawn tokens equal to the damage. While it's heavy on Casting Cost, that is crazy fast ramp that makes it quicker to call out the big guns.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 12 күн бұрын
I love Capricious One in Purphoros decks!
@richardpieniozek8379
@richardpieniozek8379 5 күн бұрын
I really like running Ellie and Alan from the Jurassic park cards, it’s pretty sick ❤
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 11 күн бұрын
A lot of the same thoughts I had when I looked at the deck. Ultimately, an Eldrazi deck is very strong and I opted for a different randomized approach with shuffling in Eldrazi from a stack to reduce power level. One question; how did you get $118.80 to show up on Moxfield for a deck that is over $250 out of the box? Is there a setting that only shows upgrades? EDIT: revised to cheapest and price is almost exact. Seems that whoever originally uploaded the pre-con didn't set to cheapest version for cards.
@kytis13
@kytis13 12 күн бұрын
I would almost go with imoti over zhulodok if you want cascade. It's cheaper to buy and triggers cascade off of CMC6+ spells. It's not double cascade but still works
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 12 күн бұрын
Great recco
@CheMedicenD
@CheMedicenD 13 күн бұрын
You took one of the best cards, wastescape can exile 2 artifacts and return 2 creatures, helps a lot for slow down players
@darksidesoul1540
@darksidesoul1540 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! Question: how do you show on Moxfield the mana value of the cards near them?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 10 күн бұрын
It’s in the display options menu next to the search bar!
@Thaao98
@Thaao98 5 күн бұрын
Morophon the Boundless and Fist of Suns, All Eldrazi spells are free
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 5 күн бұрын
Morophon is even in the base list!
@AleksaStefanRadunovic
@AleksaStefanRadunovic 5 күн бұрын
I'd like to try these combos out, if only the deck I ordered would arrive after 3 weeks of being late already.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 5 күн бұрын
Oof
@Bruno-no9ko
@Bruno-no9ko 13 күн бұрын
Ugin's eye is a bit expensive but should it be your next buy if you want to invest a bit more in deck? What about conduit of ruin or the new 4CMC eldrazi mytocist ramp creature, nulldrifter? Not as expensive and can be copied, have great synergi with the rest of stuff. Thoughts on these?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 13 күн бұрын
Mytocist isn’t where I’d prefer it on the curve it’s pushing right at the cut off of where I’d include ramp. Eye of Ugin and Ugin’s Labyrinth are both FINE inclusions but far from necessary - they’d be like adding Ancient Tomb into your deck. And Nulldrifter is a good include for sure.
@Skyfysh
@Skyfysh 13 күн бұрын
I’ve got some serious mileage with Kozilek, the Great Distortion. I can guarantee the value Eye of Ugin provides to an Eldrazi deck. That said, it’s way too expensive currently. I’d suggest proxying it until it either comes down in price, or gets reprinted.
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 11 күн бұрын
@@Skyfysh I bought the Expedition version 2 days before it was banned in Modern and crashed... Don't trigger me on reprints!!! Since, I've definitely got my value out of it so I'm not as salty about it "falling" in price from the Modern ban. Agree that it is a must add if you can get it.
@bendsmore
@bendsmore 9 күн бұрын
Morophon the Boundless seems like a good value add. It can make the commander cast free by reducing one of each colored mana.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 9 күн бұрын
it's in the default deck
@bendsmore
@bendsmore 9 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic oh I see that now 🧐
@ATERRADOSmtg
@ATERRADOSmtg 14 күн бұрын
Im using caves for colorless
@habibiindra2702
@habibiindra2702 12 күн бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can get Ulalek's trigger to resolve last by holding priority. You need a copy effect like strionic resonator for this to work. Normaly ulalek's trigger will be placed above the eldrazi spell on the stack, responding to this trigger does not delay it from entering the stack.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 12 күн бұрын
You get to order your triggers, and can make sure ulalek’s trigger resolves FIRST, but if you want to add anything to the stack while your triggers are on and before an opponent has a chance to, you must hold priority and do it.
@gavinlee9999
@gavinlee9999 13 күн бұрын
I honestly think Eldrazi Displacer should stay as it’s fantastic for repeatedly thwarting targeted removal
@camillewolff4233
@camillewolff4233 6 күн бұрын
If I understand correctly, by casting echoes of eternity and paying the 2 colorless I get a copy of it ?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 6 күн бұрын
Correct it is an eldrazi spell
@camillewolff4233
@camillewolff4233 6 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic Thanks ! That's tasty ahaha
@zeekstr4
@zeekstr4 12 күн бұрын
I'm new to magic but my question is, why are only spells on the stack being copied? Don't I control all spells I already have on the battlefield?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 12 күн бұрын
Hey great question! A spell is only a spell anywhere other than in play. Once it's in play it's a permanent! So a creature on the battlefield isn't a creature spell, it's a creature permanent.
@luisguilherme45
@luisguilherme45 14 күн бұрын
Because of complex cards like these my commander games are becoming shorter in terms of rounds, but the games are longer because every single spell takes forever to resolve.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 14 күн бұрын
Relatable.
@dylsterx8415
@dylsterx8415 14 күн бұрын
Chulane is also especially disgusting with this deck, getting both extra ramp, draw, and cast triggers that can be doubled.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 14 күн бұрын
Careful; Chulane is enters the battlefield and Ulalek is on cast - you won’t have a Chulane Trigger to double but you will get two with the token entering
@DarkenAltair
@DarkenAltair 6 күн бұрын
Channelings too
@GiraffeCrab
@GiraffeCrab 12 күн бұрын
Ulalek + echos of eternity + mirror box = 15 ulamogs. Its fun. Though anyone able to correct me on a ruling? If i have monstrous vortex, cast eldrazi, pay 2 to copy things. I get 2 instance of monstrous vortex disover. First discover finds creature that triggers the discover again. I pay two to copy the cast and all things on the stack... Will the discover trigger still on the stack copy again for 3 instances of discover that can keep going as long as you have 2 to pay and a power 5+ creature being cast??
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 12 күн бұрын
if everything flipped is an eldrazi, yes.
@jedlone
@jedlone 13 күн бұрын
okay but say i have ulalek, abtruse archaic and roaming throne out?
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 11 күн бұрын
...when you really want to strain your grey matter. My friends and I were playing "chill" competitive magic intending to throw down about 4-5 quick games in an hour. Echoes of Eternity hits the board and very competent players with good knowledge of the stack all simultaneously just went "F*$&, this is going to be rough resolving stacks." Board had Ulalek, Roaming Throne, and Echoes of Eternity out. Adding Archaic would have been a complete overload.
@fernandob2275
@fernandob2275 10 күн бұрын
Bismuth and displacer are golden lol you don’t have to be “theft themed” to include bismuth. Ulalek copying their triggers *chef kiss
@66exe
@66exe 10 күн бұрын
Endless one and universal Automoton are staples.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 10 күн бұрын
Good picks
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 14 күн бұрын
Could you do a video where you explain stack combo's that utilize Ulalek, reflections of littjara and echoes of eternity? I'm trying to understand the insane copying and looping that its alows to do but its melting my brain. Can this work?: On field: ulalek, reflections of littjara and 3 echoes of eternity eldrazi creature spell littjara trigger to copy creature spell ulalek trigger (pay 2 colorless) echoes #1 copy ulalek echoes #1 copy creature spell echoes #2 copy echoes #1 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy echoes #1 spell cast trigger echoes #2 copy ulalek echoes #2 copy creature spell echoes #1 copy echoes #2 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy echoes #2 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy ulalek echoes #3 copy creature spell echoes #1 copy echoes #3 spell cast trigger echoes #2 copy echoes #3 spell cast trigger And am I allowed full control over where to place all these simultanious effects going off, so as to make the stack more valueable? to get something like this: eldrazi creature spell littjara trigger to copy creature spell ulalek trigger (pay 2 colorless) echoes #1 copy creature spell echoes #2 copy echoes #1 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy echoes #1 spell cast trigger echoes #1 copy ulalek echoes #2 copy creature spell echoes #1 copy echoes #2 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy echoes #2 spell cast trigger echoes #2 copy ulalek echoes #3 copy creature spell echoes #1 copy echoes #3 spell cast trigger echoes #2 copy echoes #3 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy ulalek This is one run without even resolving an echoes copy of ulalek to double everything, thats what makes me super confused. How would the stack continue to look like once an echo copy of ulalek gets payed and resolved, and so on. Would love a video about it from someone who is experienced, I just started mtg 2 weeks ago and trying my best to fully grasp it so I don't make illegal or suboptimal plays. My brain hurts, But I love it 😅
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 14 күн бұрын
There are some nuances that are missed - for instance the Echoes trigger doubler is not itself a trigger, it's a static ability. Meaning as soon as Ulalek's trigger goes on the stack so do all the copies. All the copies need to be paid for individually to prevent infinite stacks like what you've implied in your example!
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 14 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic every echoes resolution of ulalek needs to be paid you mean? And if the first line is static the second is surely a trigger, which can be copied? and also when a copied ulalek resolves does it not copy this other ulalek trigger, since it sees it as another instance of a trigger and not himself? Can multiple echoes of eternity also not double the copying of a spell cast trigger (second effect) from the other copy of echoes of eternity as implied above (since it also changes the outcome of another noncolered permanent, which should be the other copies of echoes)
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 14 күн бұрын
making it still very loopable, if not infinite if there would be infite mana from I guess basalt monolith + forsaken monument
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 13 күн бұрын
You'll need to pay for each trigger, but if you can find a way to do that then yes it's loopable. The copied Ulalek triggers are the naked trigger, not the paid versions. And yes the second ability on Echoes is triggered and can be copied!
@robertotenreiro
@robertotenreiro 13 күн бұрын
thought this was a lore video...
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 13 күн бұрын
Sorry, Ulalek has combined 5 lines of lore total!
@andrewenns1884
@andrewenns1884 12 күн бұрын
where the heck are you seeing zhulodok for $30? Everywhere I look its either out of stock or over $100
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 12 күн бұрын
Idk what you’re talking about
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 12 күн бұрын
Oh, I’m talking about the single not the precon
@voteabandon
@voteabandon 3 күн бұрын
He's probably talking about the foil etched display commander that's made with too thick of cardstock to include in your 99. 🥴
@myrrkitt9636
@myrrkitt9636 6 сағат бұрын
Can this sequence happen?... Vile Redeemer{when you cast this spell, you may pay ().} [ I paid the ()] In Response... I flashed in Elder Deep-Fiend{emerge[sacrifice vile redeemer} Question do i make a token from vile redeemer? #edited
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 6 сағат бұрын
As long as the redeemer hasn't resolved yet and you've Emerged the Deep-Fiend, yes that works.
@myrrkitt9636
@myrrkitt9636 6 сағат бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic sorry, a follow up clarification... Flashed emerge elder deep-fiend sacrificing the paid vile redeemer... Will the vile redeemer still make a token?
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 13 күн бұрын
That's not the lore of Ulalek at all. If you read the insert that comes with the deck (that's also on Ulalek's wiki) "Ulalek is what happens when two Eldrazi titans dip into a plane at the same location from the Blind Eternities. An amalgamation of Ulamog and Kozilek lineages, Ulalek's presence amplifies both the innate tendencies of Ulamog spawn to warp physical properties and Kozilek spawn to warp reality.[2] Its influence on a plane is constantly shifting as if the substance of its being is constantly in flux. Ulalek has only ever appeared once, on a plane that has long since been reduced to a drained husk and whose name has faded from memory.[1] Since then, it is unknown if Ulalek as a being still exists, or if it came apart once the aspects of Ulamog and Kozilek that made it up withdrew back into the Blind Eternities."
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 12 күн бұрын
sorry that lore/insert was not available when this video was written. I only had what was available from WOTC staff at the time.
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 12 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic I commented on another reply you wrote but I’m genuinely curious; how long does it take you to make a video like this? Not trying to criticize, I just wanted to know what the turnaround for a short video like this is
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 13 күн бұрын
Cutting Wastescape Battlemage is a bad recommendation. The deck has very little interaction and if you double kick it, AND copy it with Ulalek, you can naturalize two things and bounce two things for 7 mana. That's pretty good
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 13 күн бұрын
A card that is good IF conditions are met is worse than a card that is good WHEN you draw it.
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 13 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic you just described basically every piece of removal ever. Cutting interaction because it may not have any targets at the time you draw it is such a bad take
@richardmason2116
@richardmason2116 13 күн бұрын
Where are you getting your lore from, it's completely false. Ulalek happened when Ulamog and Kozilek breached a plane at the same exact place and time and it fused their avatars. It says so in the lore page that the deck comes with.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 13 күн бұрын
That particular lore wasn't available at the time the video was created!
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 13 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic how long ago did you make this video then? It's been out for three weeks and this information on the lore has been available that long...
@help85t65
@help85t65 7 күн бұрын
Man’s crypt, man’s vault, mana drain
@help85t65
@help85t65 7 күн бұрын
Urza’s saga and Devine top
@roland2864
@roland2864 14 күн бұрын
Your list needs more ramp and ways to cheat out expensive eldrazi. Why no natures lore or cultivate?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 14 күн бұрын
Because there are no lands with forest land types.
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