Doom is Cool - but Who ELSE Could Be the MCU's Next Big Bad? (Magneto, The Beyonder, more)

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If Kang the Conqueror is no longer in the MCU, all signs point to Doctor Doom to take his place. But what other Marvel villains could pose a formidable threat?
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00:00 - Preview
00:33 - Intro
02:17 - Dr Doom probably the next big bad
11:03 - But if NOT Doom, Who?
15:44 - Molecule Man
23:19 - Galactus
30:01 - Mephisto
39:23 - The Beyonder
45:11 - The Maker
49:53 - Magneto
54:44 - Arishem and the Celstials
58:41 - Twitch votes on Most Likely Villain
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@_TheViewer_
@_TheViewer_ 5 ай бұрын
The lip synch was wonderful, Hector and Jing did well in that spontaneous moment ! 😂
@_TheViewer_
@_TheViewer_ 5 ай бұрын
Gorr was the best part on Thor4, he asked the gods to save his daughter and they didn’t, they laughed, so he wanted to kill em all, totally understand and can relate to this fatherly feeling for revenge
@chrisdtgordon5331
@chrisdtgordon5331 5 ай бұрын
One of my favorite Doom moments ever: When he corrected Spider-Man about Star Trek trivia. More than anything, I want those small, humanizing moments for Doom.
@obedmanu391
@obedmanu391 5 ай бұрын
This panel is really good, I love comics but I don’t have the knowledge of the lore behind characters and you guys taught me so much. Love the jokes, really constructive convos… I would like to see more of you guys. Thank you
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, if you're not a comics nerd they save a *lot* of time that would be spent on Wikipedia :) I don't read a lot of *21st-century* comics so I can follow Hector more easily than Coy. But I like that Coy is letting me know what is going on now.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 5 ай бұрын
@obedmanu391 What's weird for me is that this is all on daily "television." I remember when all we had in the '90s was Wizard magazine, the goofy-but-informative print version of the BreakRoom.
@itsmorbintimeorits420
@itsmorbintimeorits420 5 ай бұрын
@@IsiahBradley that’s a great point about Hector and Coy! I mostly read the 60’s/70’s Stan Lee comics so its nice to hear from Hector about stuff a little after that and Coy about even more recent stuff.
@punctualwizard
@punctualwizard 5 ай бұрын
I’ve said it for years and a million times by now, but Infamous Iron Man works for an MCU. In fact, the stand alone Doom movie is genius. Call it Iron Man 4, misdirection and rumour abound. Then have that villain turn, filled with pathos
@mmhoss
@mmhoss 4 ай бұрын
I want that more than anybody, but infamous iron man does not work well as a doom origin
@JarrenHunt
@JarrenHunt 5 ай бұрын
What if, pre secret wars. They do this big Doom origin film. Post credits scene is him discovering and killing the entire council of Kangs by himself. Kind of takes care of your secret wars lead in. After the tragic childhood and teen years. I’d also have him study at kamartage’ briefly before getting kicked out by the ancient one for using forbidden magic, attempting to get to his mother. Then, he heads to America, where he finds his way using some of his already established cunning and abilities. This leads him into a think tank where he gets a genius grant to attend college where he is guided to attend a certain school by the voice of his mother (actually Mephisto?), and this is how he meets Reed, Sue. He feels the call back home after closing his study’s and turns down work with Pym that Reed takes. He then returns home, finding himself in a leadership position in the rebellion. Where he repurposes some Ultron tech just after Sakovia, to help over throw the Baron. He then consolidates power for a few years and gives his people good lives. While preparing for threats from the unknown. Maximizing his efforts after feeling powerless when the snap happens. Something along those lines. Now, if F4 rly takes place in the 1960s or the 1960’s of another universe. You’d have to tweak somethings, but it could all still work.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 5 ай бұрын
I'd rather they establish him as a pure scientist for this first bit. Then maybe once he has a taste for it from being god emperor doom, he can make the pact with the devil so that it was as if all the time he'd spent studying science, he got that much magic too like he did in the comics. Scientist doom is just way more interesting than sorcerer doom, and it feels like it kinda takes away from his character to make him rely on it too heavily
@JoshV_TX
@JoshV_TX 5 ай бұрын
Hector got out of that "Why can't Dr. Doom be a female?" super smoothly lmao. I personally couldn't care less as long as Doom is portrayed great.
@georgehunt7187
@georgehunt7187 5 ай бұрын
Controversial, but I actually enjoy the break room more than New Rockstars, although this is much more casual than informative, both are great but personally this channel is so much fun, glad they seperated it and started doing more
@jordanlovett443
@jordanlovett443 5 ай бұрын
I kinda like the magneto take, maybe that’s how we do Avengers vs X-Men
@Kydabra
@Kydabra 5 ай бұрын
Hector is hilarious 😂
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 5 ай бұрын
He is our Biscuits. I'd die for him to know joy for but just one more day
@RyanHaney55
@RyanHaney55 5 ай бұрын
Doctor Doom shouldn't be a replacement for Kang. He should have his own story. They should finish Kang's story then dedicate the time and effort to do Doom right.
@AhmaduGidado
@AhmaduGidado 5 ай бұрын
I like the idea of a DOOM movie. Mephisto, Wanda, Reed and Sue could be a great part of the supporting cast. He could feel like a Dracula character. In the end, he can turn into the devil making the deal to save the multiverse using both science and magic
@willcarmack
@willcarmack 5 ай бұрын
Hectors lip sync made my day
@B_vagabond
@B_vagabond 5 ай бұрын
27:24 The Eternals’ shot of Arishem coming to Earth was cool to see but I wish they would kept that in the idea folder for Galactus.
@DoinYourM0m
@DoinYourM0m 5 ай бұрын
Hey jacki, im going to a Suny school right now. It's always cool to see other New Yorkers
@akouri6967
@akouri6967 5 ай бұрын
I think you guys are on to something with the Molecule Man. They would just have to change his name from Owen Reese to throw a little okey doke on the comic fans.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 5 ай бұрын
Magneto is an AMAZING character, arguably one of the best comics characters of all time, but he's not a bit enough villain to be the big bad. I'm not saying he's not big enough as in like strong enough or popular enough, but he's simply just not evil enough. He always has justifiable motivations for his actions, and is willing to team up with heroes when facing terrible threats to mutants or the world. Sure, there have been some character assassinations like Morrison, but even then he's at the most a global villain, and no power-up to make him multiversal would be at all interesting.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 5 ай бұрын
I've always really wanted him to have a trilogy where he's fully a mafia mob boss and doesn't end up redeemed but has a noble sacrifice. Like Sopranos x Games of Thrones with more lgbt people and people of color
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 5 ай бұрын
I keep saying I don't like speculative videos, and yet here I am repeatedly :) The downside of being a '70s (!) Marvel Zombie! THANKS for this!!!! My takes as I listened/watched: Magneto: After nearly 25 years on film, he's played out. And I couldn't be happier that he was done so well for so long. Doom: I never forgot where Mark Waid, in his FF run pitch, wrote that Doom "would rip the head off a baby and drink his blood to prove he was smarter than Reed Richards." I also remember how Grant Morrison had Susan Richards ask him, "Why have you chosen to be this way? Why don't you cure cancer or something really great?" The Big G: My favorite Marvel characters are the FF (which I count as one character), Surfy and T'Challa, but Galactus and Surfy are my favorite characters in all of SciFi fantasy. I hope Marvel remembers what the BreakRoom seems to forget or diminish--that Galactus, the child of Eternity, according to writer-artist John Byrne, gives planets a test to pass. (Talk to Voss about Galactus, BreakRoom folks!) I agree with Hector that he belongs in the Eternals' world. Beyonder: Never got why he was popular. I guess he's the comics equivalent of a Robert Heinlein/"Day Earth Stood Still"-type character. I can live without him in the MCU. Mephisto: I think he never got better than his Satan-tempting-Space-Jesus of Surfy Vol. 1, no.3, released the year of my birth, but I like the ideas the BreakRoom outlined here.
@chrisdtgordon5331
@chrisdtgordon5331 5 ай бұрын
Doom having his own movie would work so well. Jackie’s right; Doom is a walking onion (or a ogre).
@jordanlovett443
@jordanlovett443 5 ай бұрын
Just had an idea Dolph Lundgren as Galactus 👀
@BreakroomNR
@BreakroomNR 5 ай бұрын
Gotta make this happen asap
@rowlandsilva3249
@rowlandsilva3249 5 ай бұрын
love this panel.....
@Blindseeker82033
@Blindseeker82033 5 ай бұрын
Great episode. Great flow.
@williamgreen2949
@williamgreen2949 5 ай бұрын
Galactus is a good one. Coming to earth to eliminate the dead celestial. All the earth’s powered people need to fight in avengers. Beyonder zaps away similar to the comics. Maybe end of the movie. Love the idea of mole man in FF for a small portion.
@eon001
@eon001 5 ай бұрын
Honestly wouldn't mind seeing the High evolutionary return. But that has more to do with me being a fan of Chukwudi. 😊
@NicholasRHunn
@NicholasRHunn 5 ай бұрын
Evolutionary War vs. Apocalypse, dying to see it.
@JarrenHunt
@JarrenHunt 5 ай бұрын
Deep, dark, moody Doom movie is a great idea
@Godfearingrashad
@Godfearingrashad 5 ай бұрын
They need to make villain spotlight shows
@owenharrison761
@owenharrison761 5 ай бұрын
yeah, if there is a villain that I'm not sure they will use again for a considerable time, it is the "high evolutionary", not because they can't bring him back, but because he comes from the film of the director who left them and went to work with the competition😅
@sleepy-23
@sleepy-23 5 ай бұрын
bring magneto over from the universe that monica ends up in in the post credits marvels
@andrewbobbygaming
@andrewbobbygaming 5 ай бұрын
I’m a massive fan of Jackie being on the breakroom! Great vid!
@geniejunkie
@geniejunkie 5 ай бұрын
We don't talk about one more day just like we don't talk about unthinkable. There's no good replacement already setup. Tinfoil hat for existing: mordo stealing wanda power
@gwenstacyspidercat4294
@gwenstacyspidercat4294 5 ай бұрын
😺 Great panel today, i lost it when she and Hector did the bit 😂 it worked too well!
@B_vagabond
@B_vagabond 5 ай бұрын
57:48 I loved some of the Eternal characters and the actors who portrayed them individually. But I don’t want to see all of them together on top of all the other heroes unless it’s an End Game scenario and they are in a circle portal in the background.
@daveonwheeler7412
@daveonwheeler7412 5 ай бұрын
Great start of the show guys
@bwanamatata
@bwanamatata 5 ай бұрын
Love the show as usual. Pitch for a Disney+ Searchlight Marvel Mini focused on the new big bad(s). A game of manipulation between Doom and Mephisto. Whose playing whom? Earth's heroes are just pawns between the Masters. Maybe offers a surprise end where the Master Manipulator Loki was behind it all, pulling the threads of his Time-Tree.
@NicholasRHunn
@NicholasRHunn 5 ай бұрын
Mephisto is like a sports team that only 'wins' on his home turf... but i want him half liz hurley, half Tim Curry in Legend. Marvel should do an Original Sin Trilogy where it shows every characters one time with a Devil, Like What If?, but somehow better. Forget the Lunchables, I'd love y'all talking about Yellow #5
@deggy
@deggy 5 ай бұрын
I think Marvel should start culling the heroes and villains a bit before the team up movies and start a new one with mutants in the mix. But it's not too late for that now if they stick with the current release schedule.
@heythereskinwalker
@heythereskinwalker 4 ай бұрын
I love that Jacki has pages of notes😂
@MillysWorld5
@MillysWorld5 5 ай бұрын
You went to Binghamton University! Sweet lol I’m from Binghamton. I love the discussions you guys have and the fact I can watch an hour and still want more says a lot. Although I’m commenting before finishing the video at the moment lol, I would love Doom because I really need some FF, Silver Surfer and a real Galactus.
@lordofninjas1
@lordofninjas1 5 ай бұрын
I'll start by saying that any one of these suggestions could be interesting to see as the big bad of the Multiverse Saga/villain for Secret Wars if they don't end up recasting Kang, but I feel like they'll probably recast Kang. I'm in agreement with Jacki, Doom absolutely needs his own project or franchise and needs to be stretched out over time. I wouldn't doubt he'd be in Secret Wars in some capacity, but they definitely shouldn't just blow their chance with him by having him be the main bad guy for Secret Wars. Molecule Man could be interesting. I do like the idea of him being a villain in the Fantastic Four movie and then moving on to Secret Wars and being super powerful there. That said, I don't know if he's big bad material for a whole Saga. As for Galactus, I feel like it's too soon to even be considering him for Secret Wars aside from a credits scene. I really think he'd be best utilized as the villain for the next Saga, this looming ethereal threat that no one knows anything about or how to stop or when he'll be there or anything like that. Also, if you're that worried about him not being enough of a big bad for a whole Saga, that would be the perfect time to do his Abraxas story. Mephisto could be interesting as well, I do like the idea of the Incursions messing with his realm and his plans or whatever. That said, I think they'd probably like to keep Mephisto more as a magical villain, perhaps as a villain for the rumored Midnight Suns project, a way to bring the team together and everything. Also, while I don't think they'd necessarily do this, I did have a thought that Mephisto and Kang are working together and that all the stuff people don't like about the current MCU was manipulation by Mephisto to help Kang get to where he wants to go. Beyonder could be fun, though I don't think that's the character they'd use, but it would be interesting to see. Hector's idea for the Maker is interesting. I've previously heard him proposed as the villain of the Fantastic Four movie, and I'm not too keen on that idea, but having him be the Miles Teller Reed that's come to the Sacred Timeline Earth for Secret Wars could be interesting. I don't know that they'd want to use that lesser known of a villain to general audiences for that and I'm not sure Miles would want to come in and do the role. a Multiversal Magneto could be interesting (also yes Brandon, Mutants do already exist in the Sacred Timeline). That said, I don't know that audiences would really be interested in seeing the Sacred Timeline Magneto after seeing him as the villain of Secret Wars as it would kinda be the Doom problem all over again, what Doom is to the Fantastic Four and Marvel as a whole Magneto is to the X-Men and Marvel as a whole. You need to allow Magneto to stretch out and do his thing in the same way you need to with Doom. Arishem and the Celestials could be fun, though I don't know what they'd necessarily have them do or that people would want to see them after Eternals or anything like that. They could have more of an impact with a Galactus Saga though in that Galactus could be like a rogue Celestial or something as some theories suggest. I don't know if it could work, but maybe a character like Michael Korvac or Matthew Malloy or someone like that could work for something like this, again assuming of course they don't recast Kang, but they'll probably recast Kang.
@JarrenHunt
@JarrenHunt 5 ай бұрын
I need Logan’s history pre and in ww2. Some mutants are longer lived due to the mutant gene so baby Erik can still be rescued from internment in part by Cap and Logan. After secret wars they can just say they’ve always been here in the slightly altered soft reboot time line. But they didn’t start to grow in numbers until after the snap. Charles kept the few that were here hidden. The only difficult part work be explaining why Erik has remained quiet over time. Maybe something triggers secondary mutations in him and Charles that brings them up to the level we know. I also think doing something with a long lived Charles who used his abilities to track others like him over the years. Trying to collect everyone to figure out what it is they are.
@lordofninjas1
@lordofninjas1 5 ай бұрын
You have some similar ideas to me, though I think Magneto aging slower because he has the X-Gene is a bit of a lazy way to keep him in World War 2. That's not to say I don't want him there, all things being equal I agree that it's important to try the best you can to keep him in WWII, but I don't agree with the X-Gene being the way to do it, and I've not heard anyone come up with a way to do it that doesn't seem lazy to me. Also, Magneto wasn't a baby when he was sent to the Concentration Camp, he was like 12. Mutants also aren't longer lived because they have the Mutant gene, only *some* are longer lived and it's because of the powers granted to them by the X-Gene, namely Wolverines healing and Mystiques shapeshifting, or in the case of someone like Apocalypse it's also the modifications he made to himself and everything. Also, I'm not a fan of the majority of Mutants being caused by the Snap, I'd much rather them go with the version from the Ultimate Comics where the government finds Wolverine, gives him his Adamantium, and finds the X-Gene and essentially weaponizes it to bring about most of the Mutants. They also wouldn't need to use the rebooted timeline to say Mutants have always been around, they've already been saying it and showing it in Phase 4 and 5 projects without the reboot having happened. Magneto hiding out is simpler than you think, give him the log cabin and the family like we see in X-Men: Apocalypse. That is a thing that he does in the comics, so they could easily do it here as well. He and Charles would already be at the levels we know them at without the need for secondary Mutations (and as far as I know that's not how secondary Mutations work). Xavier also wouldn't be long-lived or need to be, nor would he be tracking down Mutants because there aren't enough around for him to track down and no reason for him to track them down yet cause there aren't enough around yet to start his school and he's already smart enough to know what Mutants are and wouldn't need to "figure out what it is they are". Besides all that though, I agree that Wolverine would likely be friends with Cap during WWII, and that the few Mutants that are currently around are able to stay in hiding (Apocalypse is in his pyramid, Wolverine can be hiding in Canada, Xavier can be a University Professor, Mystique can disguise herself as anyone, etc.) though Xavier wouldn't need to hide them.
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 5 ай бұрын
An awesome conversation. Plus the MCU can go in many directions fans dare to dream of Btw the start with Jacki giving Hector's acting a voice was fun. Love it. Also Jacki & Hector are awesome
@akouri6967
@akouri6967 5 ай бұрын
Plus, it's fun to see two obvious comic nerds dig in on this stuff
@rezza_lynsaii
@rezza_lynsaii 5 ай бұрын
Idk if it can these days
@juanpablo5021
@juanpablo5021 5 ай бұрын
A well fed galactus is multiversal! And then there’s life bringer galactus!
@ScoopNoSlaw
@ScoopNoSlaw 5 ай бұрын
I think I would prefer a Doom show only for the fact that they could take their time with an origin story. I'd be worried movies would get rushed.
@leroybrown8872
@leroybrown8872 5 ай бұрын
The last time we had a villain like that it was Killmonger and Namor.
@NicholasRHunn
@NicholasRHunn 5 ай бұрын
I love the way Grin says stuff. The 616 mutants HAVE fought alongside our hero's, but the same way Prof X would have had to if Hector was on the team in the 60's, Charles Xavier used to Wholesale wipe entire towns and people of between hours and days worth of Time. If we don't see more it's bc events like Mday happened or Decimation or the Genocide in Genosha. What If??? Ever since the Eternals the X-Men have been hanging out in Tiamat to make sure no one tries to use it to finish off the mutie scum???
@user-ws9hm6bd7d
@user-ws9hm6bd7d 2 ай бұрын
Jacki is an absolute treasure on this show, sign her up NR
@jacobdeere1879
@jacobdeere1879 5 ай бұрын
wow Jackie is amazing. bring her back please
@ConsidertheCosmosx
@ConsidertheCosmosx 5 ай бұрын
You kinda said it, but what about Spot? What if he was the Secret Wars Molecule Man?
@ConsidertheCosmosx
@ConsidertheCosmosx 5 ай бұрын
see, I’d be OK with doom being the avengers, five villain, and surviving through avengers six and the fantastic four if they gave us a special presentation or Spotlight series
@pacgh0st
@pacgh0st 5 ай бұрын
Watch it be the Doom that caught the Power Cosmic from the early 2000’s movie
@eon001
@eon001 5 ай бұрын
Galactus should be a corrupted Celestial. I don't need that Galan backstory. Keep it simple.
@israelmccantssr4482
@israelmccantssr4482 4 ай бұрын
Never thought about a Doom movie. Would be a hit to me.
@ianespie1529
@ianespie1529 5 ай бұрын
Neil Patrick Harris as Dr Doom
@NicholasRHunn
@NicholasRHunn 5 ай бұрын
Please and Thank You
@LordDocT
@LordDocT 5 ай бұрын
I also wear my exes skin as armor so I can relate to Dr.Doom
@shampoovta
@shampoovta 5 ай бұрын
I NEED Disney to make Dr. Dooms theme song Am I Evil by Diamond Head!!! Make it SO!
@woahitsphoenix
@woahitsphoenix 5 ай бұрын
Pitch: Galactus appears in a rip between universes. His universe is void of life so he's HUNGRY. He can't get his World Ship through the rip though, so the movie revolves around Galactus fending off heros while he attempts to disassemble his ship, and reassemble it in the 616. Spoiler: he does.
@indiecinemaster4699
@indiecinemaster4699 5 ай бұрын
If they have to choose a new villain, do Annihilus.
@Llo834
@Llo834 5 ай бұрын
MORE JACKI AND HECTOR
@NicholasRHunn
@NicholasRHunn 5 ай бұрын
Grin and Snack and the Governor of Chicago are cool. And more Maude...
@hadeszero4526
@hadeszero4526 5 ай бұрын
Jack-lastic!!!
@B_vagabond
@B_vagabond 5 ай бұрын
18:12 I know he is just making a joke. But in the MCU they have already worked around using Hero Names.
@Nin_the_Shinobi
@Nin_the_Shinobi 5 ай бұрын
I think they should just use Dormammu
@vinnyalto9742
@vinnyalto9742 5 ай бұрын
Avengers : Doom War !!! Do it!!
@woahitsphoenix
@woahitsphoenix 5 ай бұрын
I'm learning basic video editing right now so I can pitch my Galactus. In my head, it's too good to not do on screen in some capacity. So I'll do it myself ❤️👏🏻🙏🏻
@woahitsphoenix
@woahitsphoenix 5 ай бұрын
Pitch: Galactus appears in a rip between universes. His universe is void of life so he's HUNGRY. He can't get his World Ship through the rip though, so the movie revolves around Galactus fending off heros while he attempts to disassemble his ship, and reassemble it in the 616. Spoiler: he does.
@halfeatengamer3400
@halfeatengamer3400 4 ай бұрын
I think it should be Ioan Gruffudd who comes back as The Maker. The dude really knows how to play a villain, and it would be far better nostalgia than Miles.
@Markcrazeer
@Markcrazeer 5 ай бұрын
I see your molecule man and raise you the spot. I see your galactus and raise you what if in deadpool 3 Vanessa becomes galactus is death. The killing of the fox universe is the perfect way to justify covering the galactus background. Don’t have to be vanny can be random extra we meet in this movie that flies off just as Logan and wade enter the void.
@YetiVlogs
@YetiVlogs 5 ай бұрын
Brandon first clap = 30 mins in. Shocking turn of events.
@RickCosta
@RickCosta 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure many have said and will continue to say it but Hector is scarily good at the off the cuff lip-syncing lol.
@eliechaya9690
@eliechaya9690 5 ай бұрын
Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤
@ernestoorozco9766
@ernestoorozco9766 5 ай бұрын
Jack black as mephisto would be fun
@SeattleKO
@SeattleKO 5 ай бұрын
Steven Yeun for Owen Reece the Molecule Man!!!
@jairose1052
@jairose1052 3 ай бұрын
Villains that has already been shown in the MCU... Ironmonger, Abomination, Laufey, Loki, Justin Hammer, Red Skull, Baron Strucker, Baron Zemo, Arnim Zola, Vulture, Mysterio, Electro, Sandman, Lizard, Dr Octopus, Green Goblin, Killmonger, Klaw, Ronan, High Evolutionary, and many more. The only characters that could be use as the next big bad would be Dr Doom. Hes the only one that fights against the Avengers and Fantastic 4.
@william_clark3
@william_clark3 5 ай бұрын
Molecule man, we need it
@ILoveSlippers43
@ILoveSlippers43 5 ай бұрын
Is Hector wearing a John Carter shirt? Kinda looked like Taylor Kitch on his shirt and does it say “JC”?😅
@hectorminator
@hectorminator 5 ай бұрын
YEP!
@ILoveSlippers43
@ILoveSlippers43 5 ай бұрын
@@hectorminator nice! 😊
@vvschrisyt8848
@vvschrisyt8848 5 ай бұрын
53:12 honestly they should just keep Michael fasbender since he still looks good at his age and when he eventually gets older he can play the older version of magneto as well
@NicholasRHunn
@NicholasRHunn 5 ай бұрын
Galactus wasn't the big bad in secret wars, but he was there kicking it. I think it should be more like the FF was trapped in the negative zone for like 15? Years. Otherwise Thanos would never have gotten this close to earth. Bc Reed unlike Tony has stumbled on tons of threats, that's part of how we didn't need the Avengers until 2012
@Spider-BariSax
@Spider-BariSax 5 ай бұрын
Molecule Man Mania!
@marvelswadeteamup400
@marvelswadeteamup400 4 ай бұрын
He was the perfect Kang, Doctor fought with Kang in Secret Wars I hope to see that! He should be the new Baddie , Doctor Doom (MCU based) I agree with the woman…that’s the best way to get Mephisto in the mix that is his backstory. Even Spider-Man had a backstory. Toby Maguire could also be the one to ask a favor of Mephisto
@jordanlovett443
@jordanlovett443 5 ай бұрын
What about infinity ultron or evil strange as the main multiverse saga villain?
@marvelswadeteamup400
@marvelswadeteamup400 4 ай бұрын
Dude wit glasses is on to something 💯
@user-ws9hm6bd7d
@user-ws9hm6bd7d 2 ай бұрын
God Brandon, don't be mean to Jacki about her notes
@daDOOMsta
@daDOOMsta 5 ай бұрын
“Villain?!? Only I can save our universe from what’s coming. Bow down to your master and I, DOOM, will save you all from those irrelevant threats.”
@KazmanPebbles
@KazmanPebbles 5 ай бұрын
Alan Ritchson (Jack Reacher) i think could be a great Beyonder
@B_vagabond
@B_vagabond 5 ай бұрын
Thad Castle?
@KazmanPebbles
@KazmanPebbles 5 ай бұрын
@@B_vagabond Exactly, he has such golden retriever puppy energy in real life while still just exuding pure power 🤣
@Tyler-dn3jc
@Tyler-dn3jc 5 ай бұрын
I feel like marvel really missed the beat on setting up doom so now it’s just not enough build up. He should be a thanos or a Loki, not 1 movie villain like ultron. No matter what the F4 movie is and whether the team are from an alternative universe or 616, he could’ve always existed (even alongside a team who disappeared) in 616. Should’ve been teased in black panther with Latveria, seen the triumph and torment story (set up with Wong becoming sorcerer supreme) with doctor strange, then Ofc be built up further but not be THE villain of F4, could’ve even had ties to street level stuff with spider-man and thunderbolts. They should’ve always built him up as they were doing with Kang and then reveal their connection too, do doom could then become the big bad/saviour god doom in secret wars (which the imagery kind of looks like God Loki at the end of Loki S2. Almost set up perfectly for doom to take his spot at the end of time with kang/beyonders powers
@tylerjayyt4965
@tylerjayyt4965 5 ай бұрын
Well Fan4stic was 2015, I would have been 13, now I'm 21 (22 this year) I can tell you we didn't like the movie either lmao, though Miles Teller returning as The Maker would be dope, it's all about that familiarity while saying something new and exciting to a both us and general audiences...as much as "Superhero but evil" may or may not be exciting What if though, it's not just The Maker, we get Toby's Doctor Doom as well? Perhaps our Doctor Doom is "good" so the heroes, maybe villains and himself can defeat The Maker and "Evil Doom"
@KRYFORME
@KRYFORME 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic Four for MCU Richard Reed - John Krasinski (43) or John David Washington (39)or Penn Badgly (36) Sue Storm - Emily Blunt (40) or Emma Stone (34) or Jodie Comer(30) Johnny Storm - Dylan O’Brien (32) Taron Egerton (33)or Zac efron (35) or Lakeith Stanfield (32) Walker Scobell (14) Brady Noon (17) The Thing - Alan Ritchson(40) or Jewish Alden Ehrenreich(33) or Jewish Scott Caan (47) Dr. Doom - Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (53) or Cillian Murphy(47) or Dan stevens (40) or Alexander Skarsgård (47) or Ian Somerhalder (44) Galactis - Ron Pearlman Sam Elliot Silver surfer - Ricky Wittle or Robbie Amell or Nicolas Hoult Moleman - jack black or Johnny Galecki or Eddie Marsan or Troy Gentile
@johnmacias488
@johnmacias488 5 ай бұрын
Glenn howerton for the maker! And make him like Loki. A villain but also helpful to the heros in some situations. Just don’t have him turn in to a hero. Have him be a villain.
@fruityfox750
@fruityfox750 5 ай бұрын
I like all these ideas and think Doom would be great but I feel Doom would do better in the next saga. Only because we have no hints towards him at all and if they are going to Make doom our big bad, we need to know really about him soon. I would hate to have him be rushed as well BUT I think we all are forgetting about Wanda! BOOM your Multiverse threat is right there and we already got a little taste of her. You could even still tie in Mephisto if you really wanted too
@marvelswadeteamup400
@marvelswadeteamup400 4 ай бұрын
I’m attached to that Kang too but Doom overthrows Kang in Secret Wars ‘84 you’re welcome
@stevil6669
@stevil6669 5 ай бұрын
I'm all in on the maker. Hector needs to work for marvel!
@cwaggs7898
@cwaggs7898 5 ай бұрын
Down for Jacblacktus
@Marco-zq9vd
@Marco-zq9vd 5 ай бұрын
its crazy that the MCU have enough characters out there to already form a Young Avengers team AND a Midnight Suns team!
@georgehunt7187
@georgehunt7187 5 ай бұрын
I know! It’s amazing, they just need to hurry up and do them!
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 5 ай бұрын
Phases Four and Five remind me of the big Marvel Comics expansion of the 1970s--taking some chances, trial and error, a character explosion....
@rezza_lynsaii
@rezza_lynsaii 5 ай бұрын
@@georgehunt7187 I doubt they’ll do young avengers
@daveonwheeler7412
@daveonwheeler7412 5 ай бұрын
My cinematic universe character Dark Mass can replace Kang as a villain that crossover into earth 616 marvel
@matthewlyseight9022
@matthewlyseight9022 5 ай бұрын
That was funny as hell.
@akouri6967
@akouri6967 5 ай бұрын
Galactus could be the hero of an Eternals II
@mndrew1
@mndrew1 5 ай бұрын
Doom carries the baggage of having been the baddie in 3 bad movies; won't work. Thanos worked because he was new and had a sufficient story to make him a threat. Galactus won't work for the same reason as Doom. We've done the big space baddie; they screwed up the big interdimensional baddie; it's time for a threat from a new direction. As we learned years ago; you should fear what lies beneath your feet. "From beneath you it rises" -- The new big threat should be......The Mole Man!!!
@JarrenHunt
@JarrenHunt 5 ай бұрын
That was not Doom lol
@itsmorbintimeorits420
@itsmorbintimeorits420 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think theres too much baggage for Doom and Galactus because most people haven’t seen, don’t remember, or don’t care about those movies.
@trent5641
@trent5641 5 ай бұрын
Ya those movies dont matter at all lol
@dasolva123
@dasolva123 5 ай бұрын
I agree…. Something new Doom🚫 Galactus 🚫….
@johnmacias488
@johnmacias488 5 ай бұрын
Bro you are way off. Fox did those movies. They were a decade ago. No one is gonna care there were bad dooms if the mcu does doom right
@DoinYourM0m
@DoinYourM0m 5 ай бұрын
Stilt man will be the big bad of the MCU
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 5 ай бұрын
Security ☝🏾
@marjoe32
@marjoe32 5 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me who created the preroll for youtube videos. I cast a hex in you
@Passtheremoteplease
@Passtheremoteplease 5 ай бұрын
All of the mephisto talk makes me think Val with the dark avengers is Mephisto. It feels way too manipulative and we’re still learning her motives.
@dasolva123
@dasolva123 5 ай бұрын
Honestly we should have another villain as the main antagonist… we’ve seen Dr. Doom in the previous Fantastic 4 movies… and they couldn’t get it right… we’ve seen him too much… in my opinion recasting Kang and continuing with him or Dormammu or Molecule Man…. We need something different…
@trevors7646
@trevors7646 5 ай бұрын
where my SUNY ESF brothers and sisters, Stumpies assemble!
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