Hey, stay safe out there and have fun. Generic advice but it goes a long way when you view it as more of a general guideline than a platitude. Don't do too many drugs (I'd recommend not dabbling at all at your age but that never stopped me or anyone else and there are many experiences I don't regret so just use good prudence instead) until you're a bit older even if it's common in a lot of music scenes (I mostly hang around punks even though the actual music I play is jazz piano and I don't even like most punk music that much, many exceptions ofc. It's their principles and philosophy and nonconformity and individualism that made me end up becoming friends with so many punks and led to me going to a lot of shows for my local scene), I didn't realize the substance use was negatively impacting me until it was too late and around your age is where I started drugs, a bit younger. I wouldn't say being around the scene worsened it but it definitely contributed because I'm autistic and had to get drunk or high to socialize or take amphetamines. Embrace your passion for this and start giving your own shot at writing or playing music even if you don't feel like you'll be good at it. I was into some pretty good music at your age too and if you're here and you feel the magic that means you've got a good ear for it. Overall just do whatever you want and think for yourself, it's truly your life and most adults giving advice to late teenagers don't seem to understand that doing what one wants and what is edifying for them is what is best. I just wanted to throw some of that at you knowing you're still young and probably gonna be hanging around these scenes and making the best times of your life and probably becoming immersed in a lot of drama both meaningless and meaningful. Stay safe boss, I really wish you the best. You're watching the magic happen right in front of you and you have the chance to seize the day and be a part of it. I'd recommend playing music even for the hell of it even if you don't think you'll be good at it, if you're already making music then that's even better and don't listen to anyone who doesn't understand the type of music you're into. People understood my music less when I played black metal even though it's what I'd make if I had the tools at my disposal. I don't know why I wrote all this, I just felt compelled to tell you you're PART of that revival and you can contribute to it as much or as little as you like. You are part of the magic you speak of just like this EP was something magical and new. When I was 16 I wasn't aware of how much I was capable of or how much influence you can have with tiny things and really just getting out there and trying to make music and finding people to make music with or helping out your local bands with things like printing their T shirts and set up during their shows and stuff (there's many other important roles beyond playing music or making art I'm not really telling you to do anything in particular I'm just rambling because I'm high as fuck, my point is that you should immerse yourself in the scene using whatever skills you have or develop skills to build it up. You don't have to do any particular thing I say and for all I know you could already be doing all this shit) is how you really immerse yourself in that magic and revival and it's so fucking good to be a part of something. I hope you're doing well at finding your purpose and identity, I'll stop myself from talking now, peace. I'm glad you're a part of this, you can play a huge role in whether or not your local scene flourishes or wilts away, even if it doesn't seem like people take you seriously yet (or maybe they do, I know nothing about you). Seriously, it's great that you're listening to this and feeling the magic and that you're hyped about this revival. Hold on to that and never let go of it if you were made to be able to see magic in a world full of terror.

@@jeremymaez5311 glad i read all of that, you are appreciated

i needed this the most, i appreciate the amazing response seriously.@@jeremymaez5311

@@jesusman6666 I'm glad you read it too because, I am manic as fuck and on a lot of drugs and couldn't stop fucking talking. I have schizoaffective disorder and tend to compulsively ramble about things that most people would be able to say with a far fewer words so I tend to go in circles and write people I don't know very long paragraphs. I don't even know why I wrote all of that but it was pretty good, it was probably because I was on sketchy research chemical stimulants I ordered off the internet and because I cut my dose of my antipsychotic in half. I appreciate you too, have a good day. I flushed the stimulant I was taking and plan to seek help for my substance abuse so I'm gonna try to get it under control but at least in the ocean of rambling I did day some things that are pretty important for people getting into any music scene to know and especially things like the punk or emo scene, particularly the part about how it's gonna be some of the best times of your life and that you'll be immersed in drama both meaningless and meaningful. It's very important to distinguish what drama is actually important and what is people pretending to act principled but actually being conceited or disingenuous (something I see often in the punk scene). Overall though, I just write too much because it's a symptom of my mental illness and I thought I had some sort of divine purpose to help this kid change the music scene because I stopped taking my meds and started taking insane amounts of stimulants. I can usually churn out the same quality and depth of meaningful advice or insight while I'm on my meds and stable, it's just a bit less excessive and more grounded. I'm not usually so prone to writing so much based off so little info on someone but something about the way they connected discovering this to the revival of the scene and appreciated it in such a succinct way made me feel like I had to say something because you don't see people appreciate things in such a grand yet succinct way at the same time. It's kind of like the idea of moving a mountain with faith, if I say enough bullshit something will stick, and maybe I'll help someone appreciate and contextualize their experiences in the scene better clearly seeing it's a strong passion for them and clearly something they're looking forward to in their lifetime. As a schizophrenic honestly being around the punk scene was pretty hard for me sometimes and I never got that deeply into it but I learned how to deeply appreciate what it stood for and represented and to see it symbolically as something very important. I still value the experiences I've had and will continue to have hanging around that scene but I think it's important to view it through a manifold lens; one must find what is edifying within these scenes while also seeing their shortcomings and making sure to take an active part in building something. I've seen so many webs of connections and learned so much history just hanging around punks and getting to take part in helping out local bands getting their footing and going to shows. It's such a complex thing to tackle but it's really good seeing how the scene around me is blowing up and helping my community in a more collective and direct way than a lot of our major institutions do (unsurprisingly). I don't know why I went on that rant or this one but you never know when you'll end up saying something that means something and it's better to try to say something meaningful and end up regurgitating a bunch of bullshit than to get the feeling you should say something and then not do it. Ultimately I talk too much but some people hate it and some people find it edifying, really it's just a symptom of my schizophrenia and my most consistent and robust one at that.

@@jeremymaez5311 aight gang, aint reading all THAT

Don’t give up

I see so many of your comments on emo / hardcore songs I love. The playlists on your account are amazing

@@elias-lc8dh thank you very very much :)

Home is where the heart dies!

@@joelmedina6837 Go ahead, you will anyways.

boucle

A friend just got me a copy of this beautiful piece of music and I cant be more ecstatic

@@najaytheslug Grats, thats a gem for sure!

This record goes for usually a hundo or more. May find it around $75 if you’re lucky. That was very generous of your friend to get this for you.

Home is where the heart dies❤

I wish I could

@@martinhuguet3372you can it’s called expressing your emotions and not holding them in…

You could become a Detroit lions fan if you want to cry more

im 17 jut recently found this band. feel it in the heart too

@@dthvlly 17 as well I've been listening to this since I was 14 and 1/2

Check out Google maps video for that community centre lol

this may be a comment from 3 years ago, but i am absolutely stoked to be reading this. i hope you’re still cherishing that lineage. im so happy you were able to get such an amazing piece of work. this bitch is hard to find

i had to pay $140 for mine LOL

@@luxieluci i fucking hate people making a profit off of something like this.

me too

cloudwatcher not as good as this

pretty sure that lincoln predates this...great stuff nonetheless.

@@peterross8610 Actually not true, BW was a band in the early 90's. *I met them in 1992. And It's not even comparable in terms of the 'Emotional Hardcore' sound in its infancy (Embrace vs.Fugazi vs. Minor Threat argument, not even an argument). Sure lots of other bands before Breakwater doing the crossover thing but not like this. Lightyears ahead of the scene. Thats like saying Hot Water Music was before Poison the Well, true but Post Hardcore isn't ALL the same idea. The latter isn't the same sound yet its Post Hardcore and/or Emotional Hardcore. Yeah, Poison the Well was before Sleighbells if you want to nerd-out but does that make SB cross-over hardcore still? I mean its the same guitarist right? LOL

The whole 2 minute intro alone is some of the best music I've ever heard.

@@CharismaStrategies ikr

@@brhn3385 This record came out in 1995 so your logic kind of falls apart immediately right there. This sound had already existed for at least 2 or 3 years before they put any music onto vinyl. Hoover and Indian Summer were already big names in the scene and put out music like this in 92/93. By 95 there were already a bunch of bands that sounded like this.

the 7"? how much did you pay?

just got mine

***** all these record will make you sad. that's the purpose of all these emo records. hahaha

+Alfredge Meyer well no, the purpose of these records is to make you feel. sadness is merely a social construct based off individual subjectivity. if you get sad, then that's all on you buddy.

lol

What now?

the song Seven makes me sad in a good way. It's nice listening to it when it's raining

actually I think I prefer Seven

all of them are

im 19 and aching but its ok bcoz there r records like this one

Probably not

Oh course not. They recorded this live on a 4-track, they just played REALLY loud. It’s hard to put it in context 25 years after it came out. But more mics probably wasn’t an option, 1, and 2 - at the time Lo Fi DIY wasn’t looked down upon. Not everyone has the access to top notch equipment like Drive Like Jehu’s masterful Yank Crime album.

@@RustinChole they actually recorded on 4 track

@@SimonB. I know - I had the benefit of staying with them while traveling with a Waxwing tour during the Republic Of Freedom Fighters era for those guys. I phrased that wrong - in two ways. First, they did record the ROFF album straight through on a 4track. Breakwater never really had a full length outside of a demo of singles I managed to get a copy of. 2 - I think I was trying to say more mics would’ve made it sound way worse considering the 4 track, and how overwhelming their volume is. ROFF’s 12” and year of the rat 7” are my two favorite DIY punk releases ever, as they were my first introduction to predominantly screaming music at 16. Jode from Breakwater and ROFF was also a SUPER nice dude for the record. He sat me down and made me a comp of Clikitat Ikatowi, The CrownHate Ruin, A Minor Forest’s “Flemish altruism,” and The Monorchid’s first album. Still have that cassette after all these years. But yeah. Terrible phrasing on my part. I literally dubbed the breakwater stuff straight from the 4 track. They also were handing out breakwater 7”s like crazy - still have one of those too.

@@RustinChole How did they get such a clean kick sound with 1 to 2 mics?

Yes it is

Screamo ;)

@@dinjampnick back in the days we would just call it emo. Most emo bands screamed anyway….

@@JD-oe5uc yes, but now there's all this confusion with bands like My Chemical Romance and I call it screamo 😂

@@JD-oe5uc in the early 90's being called emo was a scarlet letter and not something to be proud of. i have seen fist fights over people calling hardcore bands "emo"

They were from Canada and active between 1994-1996

@@SimonB. I just now heard this… I love it

@@Adam_yeah_Dude from Victoria Bc specifically

yep! nice band

this is the band breakwater. some of their discography (including this) are on streaming services so its easy to find

Breakwater

@@SimonB. no but like is there any info on them? like people behind it? stuff about their music, what is it about? politics? idk, that stuff

⁠@@rgg1009 The Sophie’s Floorboard Blog Page always has a decent description of these types of artists But not that much is known really. What I do know tho is they were a four man group from British Columbia and were around from 1994-1996

not really

For a Canadian band, maybe..?

It wouldn't surprise me at all.

The intro for this is super similiar to Carmen - Sadness so it’d make sense if this had some influence on the dsbm scene as a whole

I can’t find it on Spotify

www55.zippyshare.com/v/dLyLMEeg/file.html

@@SimonB. You got a working link to this?

@@lycanthropicPolitiko thanks a lot friend.

there's a whole genre called slowcore

@@gimmigimmigimmi you deserve kisses on the forehead

I Hate Myself

Moonraker

its different but a couple of UK bands like crescent and movietone have a similar sorta harmonic vibe

Canadian Emo hardcore band from Victoria, British Columbia, active between 1994 - 1996. Or Check out some emo-blogspots ;)

Having checked out your playlist I think I'm in love with you. You own all these?

yes i transfer my stuff and upload it ;)

Simon B. we have so many good records in common. uplead some Candyland Carcrash stuff.

+Ben Dee Member played also in a banda called Republic Of Freedom Fighters. Check them out!!!

sure! great band

4 shoo

I think a better question in this KZfaq section would be who doesn't 😂😂

nice

reddit 🤢🤮

Just followed 📌

they would have hated being called emo :/

Would having sex help me not want to kill myself or make it worse when she leaves me?

Should I stop eating?

I dont know if you are serious but Drugs and sex are not the solution.

What is the solution? I'm serious, but by drugs, I mean shit like Prozac. What the fuck good is living if I never feel good?

@brokenupbeat They tell me to take drugs I don't understand and that haven't worked in the past. And I am really poor.

Nice profile pic 🙂😂