Brent Spiner talks about "The Most Toys" episode of TNG

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Brent Spiner talks about "The Most Toys" episode of TNG

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5 жыл бұрын

Brent Spiner talks about an interesting episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" called "The Most Toys". The episode featured Saul Rubinek, and Spiner tells the tragic story about how Rubinek replaced David Rapaport to take that role.
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@TheRevan1231 3 жыл бұрын

I actually talked to Brent about this very episode when i Met him. He had a 15-20 minute answer for me, it was epic.

@dickJohnsonpeter 3 жыл бұрын

did you having fjord ofer thats?

@Infy808 3 жыл бұрын

Wow It’s legendary

@petermalkovic8635 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! Brent really mucked up here. Firstly his name was DAVID not Michael; and secondly, he didn't kill himself that weekend!!! I'm actually quite suprised that Brent would muck these facts up. Pretty disrepsectful. RIP DAVID Rappenport.

@timaahhh 3 жыл бұрын

@@petermalkovic8635 I don't know much about David Rappaport and only learned about him very recently as I've been rewatching some Star Trek. It doesn't seem Brent was well acquainted with David the way he's telling the story, it seems they met on set. If that's the case he only would have know him the 2 days they worked together. Yea it's a shame he's making mistakes but this occurred almost 30 years before this interview and he's attempting to recollect on a colleague he only knew for 2 days. It was a failed suicide attempt over that weekend by David causing the recasting of Fajo. David would then die by suicide a few days later. Unfortunate mistakes yes they certainly are, but I don't think Brent is being malicious or intentionally getting his facts wrong.

@THEC.O.VISIT. 3 жыл бұрын

@l.e.miller1208 4 жыл бұрын

Brett can never be serious for more than 15 seconds so people laughed at the "what did I say?" comment but you can imagine that being the last one to work with someone before they try to take their own life is actually very traumatic.

@kellyweingart3692 3 жыл бұрын

*Brent

@falloutman85 Жыл бұрын

@@kellyweingart3692 wow what great input kelly

@tonyjackson4078 Жыл бұрын

Spiner has a very caustic dark humor, which I share, it's definitely off-putting to people as I can attest to.

@TD_JR 7 ай бұрын

Then Saul comes in and has one of the greatest performances by a guest actor in the whole series of Star Trek. He's right up there with Ricardo Montalban's Khan.

@TheSciFiGeeksGuide 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Brent named David as Michael Rappaport. But to me, what he got right was two points: Saul Rubinek is a great actor, and Warehouse 13 was a great show that was taken off the air too soon. Also, David Rappaport didn't kill himself at that time, it was an attempted suicide. He soon succeeded on May 2, 1990. I can forgive Brent for not knowing the details, as he only worked with David for two days almost 30 years ago.

@tessdurberville711 3 жыл бұрын

Narcissists seldom remember the "details".

@konundrum3678 3 жыл бұрын

Michael Rappaport is dead...........no he isn't. oops

@TheHYPO 3 жыл бұрын

Actually Brent didn't even name Michael Rappaport. Brent could not recall the name and the other guy came up with Michael Rapaport and it rung a bell with Brent who went with it. Seriously, it's a minor mental error about someone he worked with briefly 30 years ago.

@OpenMawProductions 3 жыл бұрын

@@tessdurberville711 Really? Tell me exactly where you were and what you were doing 6/11/2010 at ten in the morning. Unless someone you know really deeply was dying, there was a birth, a birthday, you got fired, you bought a house, you got married... Unless there is a big touch stone the likelihood is you don't remember that specific day at all. The further back you go, the more true that becomes true, until you hit childhood, where memories are often the strongest. Brent Spiner worked with a guest actor for two days back 30 some odd years ago. He worked with a lot of guest actors for a couple days for seven seasons of TV. WHY would he remember the details of that one in particular anymore than any other ones?

@mrtoast9857 2 жыл бұрын

@@tessdurberville711 like you could remember someone the details about someone you met for 2 days like 30 years ago, right

@Bender1138 4 жыл бұрын

Need a quick replacement actor for your TV show? Better Call Saul!

@brianvector 3 жыл бұрын

This was an example where Data could, under extreme conditions, act outside his programming to accomplish a critical task. In this case the murder of Fajo was the only way out of an an unacceptable situation.

@christiancampbell466 3 жыл бұрын

TV writers exhibit a disappointing conflation regarding what constitutes murder. Killing Fajo would have been homicide, certainly, but not murder.

@nemo-x 7 ай бұрын

I firmly believe that he did not in fact shoot, because it would have been ignoring his programming for rage, since he could keep the guy in check, AND he would have lied to his friend and commanding officer, since he said "maybe something occurred during transport". So either data is a homicidal rogue android betraying his friends, or he didn't actually shoot the gun.

@GotoMaki4Micah 8 күн бұрын

@@nemo-x data couldnt ''keep the guy in check'' because the guy wore a belt with a force field around him so the android could not touch him. data is allowed to use lethal force to protect him and others.

@nemo-x 7 күн бұрын

@@GotoMaki4Micah He could keep the guy in check with the gun. Disintegrate his shoe or something. Data has always been incredibly forthcoming about any internal issues, and especially some where they could endanger his friends, and keeping the fact that he intended to kill someone a secret would have been completely against his characterization.

@AnEnemySpy456 3 жыл бұрын

He got a couple details wrong, understandable since it was thirty years ago, but the actor's name was David Rappaport, and he unsuccessfully attempted suicide while the episode was shooting and was replaced, but then successfully killed himself later that year.

@concept5631 7 ай бұрын

A shame

@brendandax Жыл бұрын

The Most Toys is one of my all time favourites - the Brent and Saul chemistry was brilliant

@kirnpu Жыл бұрын

Truly - and the ending was awesome!

@Scripture-Man 3 жыл бұрын

The Most Toys may just be my favorite Star Trek episode ever. Easily top 3. I just adore it! Spiner was fantastic as always, and it's a testament to Mr Rubinek's talent as an actor that he was brought on so late in production yet somehow managed to pull off one of the best Trek guest roles ever. As Mr Spiner said, he "knocked it out of the park"!

@graceland316 3 жыл бұрын

Saul did an episode called “Heros” on Stargate. There is a scene in there that made me sob. That’s when you know he’s a solid actor.

@sgshaday 2 жыл бұрын

Holy cow. That episode hurts the feels.

@ravinraven6913 5 ай бұрын

well it makes you sad because hes portrayed as a jerk who is willing to do anything to get the shot. So you feel like hes going to do a bad job as he doesn't understand but then you see the video and you have to take a step back from your preconceived notions. Then the realization that you been wrong about some one, at least to a good person, makes them feel horrible.

@DarraghC 5 жыл бұрын

His name was David

@SteffenSchuchardt1978 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, hard to find him when googling for Michael Rappaport. Found him over Time Bandits then.

@muppetoverlord2013 4 жыл бұрын

Michael Rapaport is a completely different actor..who like Saul Rubinek..was also in True Romance

@celery9244 4 жыл бұрын

@@muppetoverlord2013 what a hilarious set of circumstances

@hobbygamer6220 4 жыл бұрын

??? WHAT ??

@timyo6288 3 жыл бұрын

He’s dead so it doesn’t matter.

@jaco5187 4 жыл бұрын

This episode aired 30 years ago today. Seemed like a lifetime ago.

@genghisg 5 жыл бұрын

It was actor David Rappaport, not Michael Rapaport.

@muppetoverlord2013 5 жыл бұрын

Those actors couldn't be more different

@BeckettSong 3 жыл бұрын

My words exactly.

@RockSleeper 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see Michael Rapaport play those roles lol

@GibsonVienna 3 жыл бұрын

@@RockSleeper Look here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nsl-Z9ihr5mqgWg.html

@voicetube 3 жыл бұрын

That makes sense - according to Google Michael Rappaport is still living.

@maskedmarvyl4774 4 ай бұрын

"What are we going to do?" Brent Spiner: "Better Call Saul". "You know, that's very catchy".

@sparkynm156 4 жыл бұрын

Mmmm.... I even preserved the original bubble gum scent... Great Episode and Awesome to see him play the part..I never even knew he was on Star Trek. I found scenes and it is so cool to see him acting. What a great guy. How such a Big Personality fits in such tiny shoes. Years ago I was talking to John Hurt and the dinner conversation brought up Mike Rapaport ... John said Women Loved him, Great actor and personality , also perfect height and hung like a horse.... John always had a never ending sense of humor and Love of Life. Wow... I totally forgot that he passed ad well... Data.... don't ever Die... Please .. You Play a Human So Well !

@dumbcrambo1265 4 жыл бұрын

Saul nailed the performance. Interesting to see recent clips of the original performance. It was good, but I think I prefer Saul’s take.

@jackofalltrades9311 4 жыл бұрын

Snail's version was to flamboyant.... it sucked.......

@SisyphusJP 4 жыл бұрын

Jack Of All Trades 😂 I don’t see why he would be eccentric he only is trying to collect all the most unique items in the universe sounds like a well balanced totally hinged non flamboyant villain to me.

@dumbcrambo1265 4 жыл бұрын

Streamed Consciousnes LOL my thoughts exactly.

@tp7738 3 жыл бұрын

Where can you see those?

@mem1701movies 4 жыл бұрын

I read in the behind the scenes book that they were going to make the sets small but decided against it. They were glad they made them normal size after what happened.

@lennyernquist1246 4 жыл бұрын

That's interesting...which behind the scenes book did you get that from?

@mem1701movies 4 жыл бұрын

Lenny Ernquist I don’t remember. It was a gift and lost it during a move. It has the first 4 captains on the cover as it was published during VOYAGER.

@mem1701movies 4 жыл бұрын

Lenny Ernquist I looked it up it’s called CAPTAINS LOGS by GROSS AND ALTMAN

@lennyernquist1246 4 жыл бұрын

@@mem1701movies oh yes! I own that book. I have it somewhere around my house lol thanks for the reply.

@tomasotreasaigh111 4 жыл бұрын

@@mem1701movies Ah hell, I remember someone I know had that book, well they were actually a friend of a woman I was dating. I asked could I borrow it and they said I could have it, they said it was an unwanted gift or something, anyway I stayed for a while (my girlfriend and I were visiting them) and when I left I forgot the damn book. Never saw them or the book again. Thanks for reminding me, I will try find a copy, peace from Ireland mo chara...

@BradiKal61 6 ай бұрын

One thing I find interesting about the episode as it was filmed, is that when Fajo reveals the location of the forbidden disruptors, they were in a drawer style wall safe at a height which Rappaport would not have been able to reach without standing on something. I wonder how they would have shot that particular scene or would they have used a different container down at a lower level.

@NijimaSan 2 жыл бұрын

That cast listing for “Leave It To Beaver Is Dead” is stunning.

@chemicalburn 6 ай бұрын

I wish they would have done a follow-up movie of this episode instead of Insurrection. Fajo escapes prison and competes with Picard and the Enterprise to hunt down a powerful artifact from an ancient galactic civilization. Perhaps an "Indiana Jones in space" style movie drawing on Picards archeology background.

@andrewdemetrius8090 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant episode - "The Most Toys"

@stevencoardvenice 5 жыл бұрын

Just watched it on Netflix and came here to be debriefed afterwards. Been watching TNG for 25 years but somehow never saw that episode. Quite an episode. Would have liked a part 2

@Scripture-Man 3 жыл бұрын

It's my favorite Trek episode ever!

@cliftonwebb5872 3 жыл бұрын

Yet it got bad reviews - don’t know why, I really enjoyed it. Plenty of chilling suspenseful moments and Brent Spiner and Saul Rubinek were great adversaries

@ExiaBlade 3 жыл бұрын

I just recently rewatched that episode and I was trying to remember where I saw that Saul guy from; Warehouse 13!

@bengaarder2972 3 жыл бұрын

Data tried to kill him in the end.

@jacobstamm 5 ай бұрын

Saul gave such a spectacular performance in this episode. One of the very best across all Trek.

@ravinraven6913 5 ай бұрын

almost too good for star trek, he was the most evil villain they had.

@TheKrensada 4 жыл бұрын

Micheal Rappaport was not in Time Bandits. You're thinking of David Rappaport. It is important to get your Rapparorts properly ported.

@theevilascotcompany9255 4 жыл бұрын

I am truly enjoying this Rappaport rapport.

@amazinmets8439 4 жыл бұрын

I'm rappaporting you for that insensitive joke.

@theevilascotcompany9255 4 жыл бұрын

@@amazinmets8439 Don't get brent out of shape over this.

@joshuawilliams7351 2 жыл бұрын

I'm rapaporting the whole rapaport report rapport.

@ravinraven6913 5 ай бұрын

you're talking like this is Brent spiners channel..........I wasn't thinking David Rappaport I wasn't thinking any Rappaport, that was spiner...

@newwavepop Жыл бұрын

it was David Rappaport, he was a great actor with a wonderful voice and charisma. it is a shame what happened.

@RRTNZ 7 ай бұрын

This was one of my favourite episodes - in part due to Brent's performance but also Saul Rubinek, such an underrated actor. Such a layered performance from Saul of a complex but reprehensible character.

@brianjoyce9040 3 жыл бұрын

Data’s top moment among many great great moments

@Rocket_Man232 9 ай бұрын

DAVID Rappaport unsuccessfully ATTEMPTED suicide after doing the first part of that ST:NG episode.

@johnjames4834 Ай бұрын

in warehouse 13 keefas vargios collection of unusal objects was massive

@geo386 2 жыл бұрын

I googled Michael Rapaport, hes still living. I think it was another actor.

@markrosenberg4369 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best SNG episodes

@andrewbesso4257 Жыл бұрын

Too bad Fajo didn't try to kidnap Lore. That could have gone horribly wrong for him.

@BeckettSong 3 жыл бұрын

Maury Chaykin guest starred on Stargate SG-1 as Nerus whom was an Under System Lord to Ba’al(Cliff Simon).

@rikosaikawa9024 4 жыл бұрын

What did I say? Lol cmon that is funny

@kiko1935 4 жыл бұрын

Not the best joke to do in front of an audience lmao

@l.e.miller1208 4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure that's really a joke...maybe its wrapped in Spiner's trademark lack of seriousness but imagine you're working with someone and they kill themselves...even if its not your fault at all that's traumatic.

@spencersholden 3 жыл бұрын

I loved Warehouse 13.

@tcholmes2237 Жыл бұрын

Whoops, I think he means David Rappaport, Michael is very much still with us.

@michellerobin5461 3 жыл бұрын

It would be so interesting if TNG would release the unfinished episode with David Rappaport. I’d love to see that.

@danielyeshe 3 жыл бұрын

The clips are on KZfaq.

@joshuajudas2414 3 жыл бұрын

Always wondered how Brent felt about working close with someone who just ceased to exist right in the middle of a job...FYI Yall, the "Michael Rappaport version" of a scene from that episode; the best dialogue scene from "The Best Toys", in my opinion, is somehwere here on the KZfaqs. It's really good. I think the clip has both takes of 1 scene with both actors. You should peep it. I'd love to get my hands on all the scenes from that epp that had been filmed to completion. No doubt that rare gem is out there somewhere...

@noizW 2 жыл бұрын

Nitpicking nerd has the the video clips (with Rappaport and the other guy) on his channel

@divinemissem5677 2 жыл бұрын

His name was David, not Michael

@thetgwarrior 8 ай бұрын

Is this English?

@comancheviperrrr 4 жыл бұрын

Actually his name was David Robert Ford and he only attempted suicide that weekend. He would not die until 1990 from a gunshot wound to the chest. It was self-inflicted.

@tessdurberville711 3 жыл бұрын

David Stephen Rappaport.

@JustWasted3HoursHere 4 жыл бұрын

For those interested, here is a comparison of David Rappaport and Saul Rubinek's Fajo: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtyHaqqct7Oxg2w.html

@qdllc 4 жыл бұрын

Warehouse 13 got cancelled because they were pulling funding and putting it into new shows (that bombed)...you can see the loss of quality in later seasons. That, and you can’t have a new antagonist threatening the warehouse every season...it just won’t work.

@BogeyTheBear 3 жыл бұрын

SyFy will never let any show last more than five seasons because they would have to renegotiate everyones' contracts.

@susananspaugh4605 5 күн бұрын

Saul maybe played the role too well. I feel fear when I see him in other things. 😂 He was brilliant.

@Changeling9au 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting.

@gregquinn7817 6 ай бұрын

He didnt actually kill himself over the weekend. He attempted but didn't die. He did however complete suicide a few years later.

@ziraprod6090 2 ай бұрын

The Collector.

@trekkiejunk 17 күн бұрын

Some of this story is inaccurate. The actor's name is David Rappaport, not Michael. He also didn't kill himself. He attempted suicide, but failed. It was a couple months later that he attempted it again, and was successful.

@GokouZWAR 11 ай бұрын

I guess that confirms he did in fact film the original character. It’s strange they only just released those originally filmed episodes now…cuz if that’s the case I don’t see how he did acting in the 2000s since the original episode was filmed in 1994 and the “original actor” killed himself at that time, but still went on to do acting starting in 2001… still something fishy about this story…

@Lethgar_Smith 3 жыл бұрын

Michael Rappaport was an intense dude. Very much like the Randal Character he played in Time Bandits. After a suicide attempt during the production of the episode "The Most Toys", David Rappaport successfully committed suicide only 5 days before the episode originally aired. Having struggled with alcoholism and depression most of his adult life, it is said he was a victim of unrequited love.

@Rom-ju5tf 4 жыл бұрын

David rappaport not michael

@corestaples 3 жыл бұрын

great episode

@Concreteowl 3 ай бұрын

He was David Rappaport and he attempted suicide. He died after a subsequent attempt.

@kriskross8908 Жыл бұрын

One, David Rapaport, not Michael. Michael Rapaport is a different actor. Second, David Rapaport didn't kill himself during that filming. He ATTEMPTED it, and succeeded a few months later when he tried again. Pretty sad that this is how little of an impact this incident had on Spiner.

@ravinraven6913 5 ай бұрын

This is not accurate, He filmed half the scenes, he tried to kill himself but was found before. He was recast, and then he killed himself a couple months later...I just found out about it on youtube and now I have multiple videos popping up about the recast. does he actually think hes data? You know when people are a bit unhinged when they say me instead of the character name. Mark Hamil knew he wasn't Luke, I know method acting is a thing, but not usually after they are no longer in the part. Most actors know they aren't their characters, they separate the two and never confuse them.

@Apple_Teck 7 ай бұрын

Data shot first.

@jensdroessler3575 3 жыл бұрын

Of course Bremt wouldn‘t talk ill of the dead, but seeing the footage of David Rappaport on that episode, I‘d say he was pretty off already. Maybe what drove him to attempt suicide later already occupied his mind while shooting...

@divinemissem5677 2 жыл бұрын

Very crass post. David was a great actor and was giving a creepy performance for a creepy part. You can't "see" it. Certainly his coworkers didn't. He was a professional till the end

@alexwestman8289 3 жыл бұрын

It was David Rappaport.. not Micheal

@ravinraven6913 5 ай бұрын

just curious, do you guys think you are talking to the people in the video? We know who it was, you don't need to tell us, you need to tell brent spiner and he is just not here....seriously? I hate it cause I can't tell when someone is 5, mentally slow or just plane stupid. So I have to assume all 3

@johnjames4834 Ай бұрын

better call saul

@ericclark388 3 жыл бұрын

David Rappaport was the actor

@Bertiesghost 2 жыл бұрын

It was David Rappaport not Michael Rappaport.

@ravinraven6913 5 ай бұрын

you're not talking to brent spiner....so who are you talking to? people like me who already know -_- eh?

@ardillarojo 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to hear Spiner do the "Lululu-lu" voice.

@petermalkovic8635 3 жыл бұрын

@Mia199603 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, RAPPENPORT. Get off your high horse, everybody makes mistakes

@tacituskilgore9803 4 жыл бұрын

David Rappaport was a great actor, doesn't get enough respect in this interview. Cant even get his damn name right. What a crock. He would have been better in the part than this Saul guy I've never even heard of

@Anth230 4 жыл бұрын

STFU.....Saul did an excellent job in the episode you moron...

@tacituskilgore9803 4 жыл бұрын

@@Anth230 No

@Anth230 4 жыл бұрын

@@tacituskilgore9803 yes STFU or go watch the actual episode you freaking moron...

@jaydawg7 4 жыл бұрын

@@thecaptain6845 strange that he remembered all the other names, even the character's

@Anth230 4 жыл бұрын

@@jaydawg7 Who the fuck cares except sensitive morons....🙄🙄🙄

@crazylarryjr 8 ай бұрын

Saul Rubinek is the kind if actor I love to hate, His character in that ST episode was so bad i wanted to hurt the actor for playing it. I absolutely hated that character, only ever seen that episode once because, I hated him that much

@ezakustam 3 жыл бұрын

What is with this crowd? Who would talk over this?!

@matthewtopping2061 3 жыл бұрын

The way he talks about the late David Rappaport in this clip, getting key details wrong, is truly insensitive. Shame on Spiner.

@SimoSakariAaltonen 4 жыл бұрын

Straight talk... Horrible episode, and Mr. Rubinek was horribly annoying in the role. Just because someone does their job with conviction doesn’t mean the result will be enjoyable. Just because a death surrounds an episode doesn’t mean we must worship the episode.

@SpreadingtheMuse 4 жыл бұрын

Its a great episode

@TheFragranceApprentice 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your dumb, obnoxious, wrong opinion.

@l.e.miller1208 4 жыл бұрын

He's supposed to be insufferable...but that doesn't mean anyone has to like it. Kinda like Hayden in Star Wars...

@sparkynm156 4 жыл бұрын

Mmmm.... I even preserved the original bubble gum scent...

@georgemorley1029 3 жыл бұрын

Straight talk. What does that mean? “Here’s my opinion?” It was one of the best episodes I can remember.