Why drywall replaced plaster in homes. The odd original use for drywall.

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Brent Hull

Brent Hull

Күн бұрын

Drywall is used in houses great and small, but that wasn't always the case. The early purpose for drywall (known by many other names) is quite fascinating. Come re-learn what you thought you knew.
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@HawkGTboy
@HawkGTboy 17 күн бұрын
I just sat and watched a whole video on the history of Sheetrock. I’m officially an old man now. 😅
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 17 күн бұрын
haha, join the party.
@Colorado_Native
@Colorado_Native 16 күн бұрын
Same here. My parents bought a house years ago that had sheetrock but had holes in it. You would then coat it with several layers of plaster. I think it was called RockLath.
@carlsapartments8931
@carlsapartments8931 16 күн бұрын
well, I guess we need to have a name for this club then!
@jerbear7952
@jerbear7952 16 күн бұрын
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@gorosemonde
@gorosemonde 16 күн бұрын
Im a middle aged woman apparently at 40 and… same. Same.
@kurtvonfricken6829
@kurtvonfricken6829 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin lives in a 1899 Victorian. He is fortunate enough to possess all the original blueprints and bids, and contracts which is super cool. The contracts for the plaster specify how much goat hair is to be used in the plaster. Imagine that!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen historic specs like that. They are really cool.
@stevensko9153
@stevensko9153 Ай бұрын
Now they put fiberglass in it instead so you know the hair was legit
@itoibo4208
@itoibo4208 16 күн бұрын
@@stevensko9153 definitely. It is incredible they lived in a time where there were little or no artificial fibers. They also used stuff like blood to paint things.
@1987higgs
@1987higgs 16 күн бұрын
I grew up in a house with horse hair plaster. If I remember, most of it was reddish. Maybe it was cow hair. But original trim in most of the house. Did a few renos and there was about a foot of coal dust between each stud. Stone foundation. We pulled back about 8 layers of wall paper and someone had written " snowing outside, woman walked by April 1911 "
@UntitledUnlimitedCreations
@UntitledUnlimitedCreations 16 күн бұрын
@@1987higgs I always wrote something in the walls or framing when renovating or a new build. Never know who will read it down the road.
@stevesmith1404
@stevesmith1404 10 күн бұрын
Very interesting video. My Dad was a plasterer. His career followed your timeline. When retired, his work was almost all remodels in Beverly Hills to match the exiting work in those beautiful old mansions there. He had distain for dry wall commenting that it was applied by "shack artists" , 😊 But even the 14 year old version of me could see that his was a dying art. In fact, one of his last projects was to come out of retirement to work on the J. Paul Getty Museum in Pacific Palisades'. Much of the fancy plaster work, (Crown Molding, Cornices and Medallions, etc.) were created by my dad. Are there people around now who can do this type of work? Not many, I'll bet.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 10 күн бұрын
THx for sharing.
@DoubleMrE
@DoubleMrE 7 күн бұрын
I was a painting contractor until I retired and I can tell you one thing I hated about plaster walls…repairing cracks was a bit of a nightmare. Not that they were hard to fill, it’s that they almost always open up on you again. You get them because that’s where the stress is the greatest and that doesn’t change unless you replace like the entire wall or at least a huge section. …Bad memories!
@janetsbrick
@janetsbrick 6 күн бұрын
I worked at the Getty in the 90s during the period leading up to and through the opening of the main campus in Brentwood. Two doors down from me was the office of the original caretaker of the collections at the Malibu villa in the 1970s. The chit chat about the history of both the facility and the art over the decades was something really special.
@NoName-zn1sb
@NoName-zn1sb 4 күн бұрын
Pacific Palisades
@Philly-lq6zr
@Philly-lq6zr 2 күн бұрын
​@@DoubleMrE been in that situation many times I just say to home owners that you would need to have it braced it in the roof , top plate ,had plaster boss place crack in the ceiling I repaired the plaster told him call a builder , get inpected and just put braces in the roof , did that almost a year ago , it aint cracking 👇 😅😅😅 problem solved , And yes because peoples did not know about over lapping the board , instead it was easy to but join and easy to plaster , and no butterfly, in my 20s mid 90s starting as labourer,, over the years ,up the mid 2000s Working on houses repairs , and new builds , construction , I noticed all the big mistakes , other tradesmen and home owners ,and busses ,were doing I would walk to them and tell them that ain't right , and explain it to them , the right way I'm the guy that changed building specs for gib boarders , overlapping and exterior plastering and moldings around doors ,windows , control joint cavity ,many others like leaking homes , doing repairs when not needed around widows doors , all did was drills holes , problem solved , no leaks after heavy rain , Im that guy Telling inspector from council what needs ro be corrected, it be less hassles in the future , less money for people's for repairs , , This in auckland new zealand , went to christchurch after earthquake to help out repairs, and still people's making bad mistakes , peoples findout who I am call me to go to this job site , I get there ,do the job , problem solved , pretty much fixing other people's that already did the repairs or new builds , 😮 , , And I'm stuck here 😮 I'm not a tradesmen just been educated by the best engineer ,woodcraft , architect, school teachers ,
@foxotcw30
@foxotcw30 Ай бұрын
My junior high had real plaster walls, and even as a kid I noticed the difference. If you knocked or tapped on the walls they were dead solid, without the hollow, cheap drum effect of newer buildings. The ceiling, molding, walls and corners seemed sculpted and unified in a way that drywall construction couldn't match.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Ай бұрын
True. Thx.
@thomasdobbs4615
@thomasdobbs4615 5 күн бұрын
That's so true I noticed that too when our family lived in the old 1890s home I couldn't hear my neighbors and they were pretty loud. And when I bought this home from the 1980s I could hear everybody. Thanks for the great info
@lukemarks92
@lukemarks92 19 сағат бұрын
I live in a home built in the 1940s. The plaster walls seem to do a great job keeping heat out and cold air in in the summer. In the winter it keeps it really warm. And the noise reduction seems superior
@flo2348
@flo2348 18 күн бұрын
I owned a 1920s house in CT. I renovated the living room and found old sheetrock with "patent pending" stamped on the inside. Also just to mention for fun, the previous owner renovated the upstairs bedroom and they must have overturned a can of paint. I found a big glob of paint sitting on the upside of the first floor ceiling. It never fully dried.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 17 күн бұрын
Haha. Wow. THx.
@RealNorthernFox
@RealNorthernFox 8 күн бұрын
That's wild. Neat!
@galewinds7696
@galewinds7696 7 күн бұрын
Oil based paint
@mikeaubrey6058
@mikeaubrey6058 4 күн бұрын
Same here in Ottawa Ontario. I renovated a 1920's home in the late 70's and the third floor was finished with 3/8"drywall with stickers on the back extolling the virtues of the product. The rest of the large home was finished in conventional plaster with horse hair reinforcing the scratch coat.
@rgplpc
@rgplpc 17 күн бұрын
In 1962, when I was 15, I began working summers with my dad, who was a lather. This was in the San Jose area of California, and apartment buildings were being built all over. Carport ceilings were covered with "Rocklath," a sheetrock-type material full of holes, over which plaster was applied.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 17 күн бұрын
Nice. thanks for sharing.
@Don_P.717
@Don_P.717 17 күн бұрын
@@BrentHull Your video popped up in my research, thanks! I'm working on a theater currently that has the holy rocklath on some ceilings, smooth ~16"x4' drywall lath on some walls, a good bit of wire lath, beaverboard or similar and ~2" thick Kimsul insulation in the ceiling. A Kimberly Clark layered and stitched crepe paper insulation. This was built in 1950, about 3-5 years before safety film was common. I'm in the Blue Ridge and we do lag you all in material and style adoption/abandonment. The local courthouse is the last Richardsonian I believe, from 1908. The projection booth on the theater balcony level was on a 4" thick slab on 2x10 joists with a paper embedded wire "pan" the mud was poured on. Sprinklers above and below that, they were apparently very fire concerned, rightfully, the early film was nitrocellulose and the projectors ran carbon arc light. An unextinguishable fire waiting to happen. Apparently Kimberly Clark had a cellulose based fire resistant theater curtain material during that period as well. The fire alarm is driven by a Viking company water motor that spins and bangs the bell when a sprinkler opens and the water flows.
@gr8dvd
@gr8dvd 16 күн бұрын
@@Don_P.717 Taking pics… even if not sharing widely, you’d likely enjoy years later. This all reminiscent of my starter home…. 1920’s ‘railroad’ style - narrow had to walk thru 1 room to get to another.
@markkillion8980
@markkillion8980 14 күн бұрын
Gypsum, of course, is a mineral. Minerals are basically rocks found in the ground. Hence, the term. Rocklath could have holes or not have any. With holes, a plaster “key” will form. Practices changed and rock lath was also shipped without holes. My understanding was that two coats of plaster was troweled over it. I think the big difference was whether it was “doubled back”. Pretty sure that means a coat was put on and then another coat was put on immediately thereafter.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 14 күн бұрын
My 1964 house Ojai Ca had the rock lathe sheet rock with holes to Key into then covered with plaster
@theofarmmanager267
@theofarmmanager267 2 жыл бұрын
A UK perspective. Our current house has a wonderful mixture of “plaster”. The front part dates from 1760: it is traditional lathe and plaster. The lathes were made from chestnut and hand-riven not sawn. There is a great tradition of coppicing chestnut here (also in Italy and maybe other countries). Chestnut trees are initially allowed to grow maybe 20’ and then the main trunk is sawn off. The tree regrows but with multiple stems (or branches?) around the place where the main trunk was. These multiple new stems are allowed to grow for 3 or 4 years and they get up to 20 feet or so; then those stems are harvested; the stump left and more, new stems, grow. It is a rotational crop. A woodsman would have perhaps 20 copse which he looked after and, every year, he just went from one to the next as the chestnut had grown. Some of these copse are well over 100 years old and you can see the evidence of how the chestnut resiliently grows, is cut down, grow a again, cut down etc. It’s not as widely practiced as it used to be because we don’t use as many chestnut products as we used to - but it is still quite common. We have a stock fence which has chestnut stakes driven into the ground. One big use was/is that the largest and straight-est of the crop became hop poles for the huge number of hop gardens that we had in Kent. Smaller branches became sheep hurdles, garden fence hurdles, baskets, trugs- all manner of things that were used in rural UK. So , branches of chestnut, perhaps 2” in diameter, were riven with a special axe in halves or quarters when green and allowed to dry. They were then sold to the local builders. The builder had already got the building up using large oak beams, again usually hand cut with axe and adze and he then put in more vertical, smaller oak columns to provide the place onto which he could nail the wooden lathes. He could then mix up his own plaster mixture which was usually a blend of slaked lime, chalk and horse hair. Obviously the thickness of the plaster had to be quite high so that you could push the first coats through the lathes and get it keyed onto the lathes. Later coats were thinner until he got to the finish he wanted. Then, in a later part of the house, we have crude fibre board used instead of the lathes and this was again plastered over. Later still, we have what we know as plaster board which is again skimmed over with a layer perhaps 3/16”. In the barn conversion, we have a mixture. We have different grades of plasterboard for different appplicat
@theofarmmanager267
@theofarmmanager267 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry - pressed wrong button. We have different grades of plasterboard for different rooms - green, silver-backed etc. we also have a goodly amount of masonry walls. All walls and ceilings have been plastered in the traditional way of 2 coats plus finish coats. It’s great to see the 2 guys we have getting such a great finish - hard and smooth. In a couple of areas, we had plasterboard which wasn’t plastered for about 3 years. The plasterers hated it because they said that the board had dried out too much and it was sucking the water out of the plaster before they could smooth it. I never knew that you should only use young plasterboard. I obviously can’t speak for all new houses and I’d be pretty sure that we would wince at some of the building techniques but one of our sons has a new house (1980’s?) and that is all plasterboard but properly skimmed over completely - not just tape and screw holes filled. British Gypsum are not far from us and they Brough dry lining into the UK in 1917. They are near the towns or Robertsbridge and Battle. As yet another diversion, Battle is named after the battle of Hastings in1066 when William the Conqueror (William the Bastard - which is a comment on his parentage and not his character). William went on to be William 1 and was responsible for the building of so many strongholds all around the country including the Tower of London. The Battle of Hastings wasn’t fought in Hastings but on a hillside about 5 miles north (it couldn’t be south as it would have been fought on the sea) which was called Senlac Hill after the nearby village of Senlac. William built Battle Abbey near to the battle ground to commemorate his victory and the whole village became known as Battle - and not Senlac. Anyway, The site around there has all the earths needed for dry lining and that’s why British Gypsum started there although it know imports most of the ingredients for its plaster board. Plastering as a trade is still common over here. I don’t see any signs of a major decline in numbers of experienced plasterers. Another son lives in NSW, Australia in a house built in the 1960’s. it’s a strange, terribly built house which has to cater for extreme heat (no walls of brick or masonry which could act as a heat store) and extreme floods (built on brick piers but timber stumps are also widely used). Walls are fibreboard throughout - just wooden cladding added to the exterior walls. If you stayed to the end, congratulations!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always! Cheers.
@jimc4731
@jimc4731 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to produce this historical description of the process! JIM ❤
@wayward-saint
@wayward-saint 21 күн бұрын
@@theofarmmanager267what a wonderfully meandering comment. I really enjoyed reading it. I mean that sincerely.
@richdiddens4059
@richdiddens4059 17 күн бұрын
@@theofarmmanager267 Historically I believe lathe and plaster replaced the ancient wattle and daub. Thicker willow branches were run vertically every foot or so and then thinner flexible willow branches were interwoven horizontally in front and behind the uprights. That was the wattle. Then a mixture of mud, straw, hair, and dried animal dung was pressed and smeared (daubed) into the wattle from both sides. This was often coated with powdered lime or a slurry of lime. It lasted pretty good and was a fair insulator. This technique goes back several thousand years.
@skeptick6513
@skeptick6513 6 күн бұрын
Our house built in 1941 had a brown coat and plaster veneer over a sheetrock like product made by US Gypsum, total thickness neatly one inch. The finish coat was like glass, you could not see a trowel mark on it. Made for a very nice, soundproof house with good thermal mass. Way better than modern drywall and a huge improvement over lathe construction.
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc 5 күн бұрын
hight end homes 2 layers of sheet rock..
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
thanks for sharing.
@jackpestaner6925
@jackpestaner6925 2 күн бұрын
I have lived in 3 houses built in the 50's same way with 3/8 wallboard as the base and then a scratch coat and top coat, wire mesh in the corners. Extremely durable, and easy to patch. Now I have a 1924 home with wood lath and there are many areas where the scratch coat has broken loose of the lath, mostly as the weight of the top portion has pressed down on the lower section and caused it to bulge off the lath. An interesting aside, the home is brick with furring strips on the inside where the wood lath was nailed. The furring strips were all kinds of thicknesses and badly bowed, but who cared as the plasterer would just level it all out in the end. Now, I have to pull it all off, and replace with new furring strips, shimmed out so that the drywall will have a fairly level place to attach.
@donneuharth9495
@donneuharth9495 5 күн бұрын
Our home (built in 1963) was finished inside using "fireproof lath". I discovered this right after we bought it in 1997 and was remodeling / updating the bathrooms. The product was 3/8" thick and came in 16" x 48" pieces applied horizontally with the joints staggered just as is now done with drywall. The applied plaster varied in thickness from about 3/8" to as much as 3/4". There was also a wire mesh embedded in all of the corners. I would say it was quite durable as there were virtually no cracks as is far too often now the case with drywall.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 4 күн бұрын
Thanks.
@danielbwambale3438
@danielbwambale3438 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! 80-90% of any middle class or even lower middle class homes are either fired clay brick or concrete brick in my country, Uganda. With cement and sand plaster as the preferred veneer. Ceramic tiles are usually the floor. Richer folks may use marble, wood tiles, or terrazzo. The only wood is usually in trusses for the roofing and in the kitchen and wardrobes. Makes for excellent sound proofing.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Wow, very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@gamingwithfrodo
@gamingwithfrodo 7 күн бұрын
Interesting. Thanks so much for sharing.
@alexandrelegault5727
@alexandrelegault5727 6 күн бұрын
One drawback of drywall is that it will grow mold on it's paper layers easily with water damage.
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc 5 күн бұрын
they have new ones that dont also no oil base paints its food. get a dehumidifier and lower humidity it dies..
@natenate2280
@natenate2280 5 күн бұрын
@@peter-pg5ycholy shit throw that back in the hopper and maybe a sentence will pop out
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
Thx.
@SeptemberMeadows
@SeptemberMeadows 5 күн бұрын
Treat it with Daconil or some other fungicide, before putting in place.
@AlexR_44
@AlexR_44 4 күн бұрын
@@natenate2280 AWe man, I almost died to death from laughing at that. Well said.😂
@Toastedtasty42
@Toastedtasty42 15 күн бұрын
You're telling me drywall was originally invented to be used for as a plaster and lathe replacement? No way, I don't buy it, you're blowing my mind over here
@markkillion8980
@markkillion8980 14 күн бұрын
No, that really happened. Gypsum lath may still be used today if you want a traditional plaster job. Are you familiar with blueboard? It is basically a plasterboard base for what we call veneer plaster.
@Toastedtasty42
@Toastedtasty42 14 күн бұрын
@@markkillion8980 yeah, it was joke, the title made it sound like it was a surprising origin
@ianbelletti6241
@ianbelletti6241 14 күн бұрын
I'm not surprised. In most modern cases we don't worry about finish coat and just coat the seams and screws because we've found the finish coat mostly unnecessary. However, this has cost us laborers skilled in coating a wall making it truly flat.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 14 күн бұрын
Yep. Thx for watching.
@markkillion8980
@markkillion8980 14 күн бұрын
Sarcasm doesn't always come through on line. I didn't pick up on it! Plaster is"monolithic" while drywall can often show the butt joint. Imperfections in the wood framing can come through also. The commercial world uses metal studs which provides a straighter wall and with the screws locking, no nail pop.
@stevenm3141
@stevenm3141 10 күн бұрын
Just imagine going in a room and nailing a 1/4x1 strip of wood on every stud and ceiling rafter. Every 1/4" apart. Then you use gallons of plaster on three coats each wall and ceiling. It must be smooth and flat. Now you got to clean all your tools and the spills. Now either brown paper or news paper is applied. You can then paint, wallpaper or wood finish. Very time consuming and expensive. Years of experience are necessary and very special tools.
@jeffmiller3150
@jeffmiller3150 9 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's kinda the difference from a Bentley to a Hyundai!🤷
@behindthespotlight7983
@behindthespotlight7983 9 күн бұрын
Yep. But Americans weren’t paying ridiculous rents to listen to their complete stranger neighbors pee at 4am, either
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 9 күн бұрын
Good point. Thx.
@dancooper6002
@dancooper6002 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, doing things right usually does take time. Much better that way, the builders are real craftsmen as opposed to the cheapest illegals money can buy.
@MikeJones-rk1un
@MikeJones-rk1un 5 күн бұрын
Rock still has to be taped, mudded, and sanded. Rock is also heavy and hard to handle and leaves a lot of waste.
@tassiehandyman3090
@tassiehandyman3090 17 күн бұрын
I moved to a 1860s farmhouse in Devon, UK, as a 6 year old kid in the mid 80s. All the rooms had lathe and plaster walls, including hair for binding. We know it was installed on 1899... because there was a newspaper from that year, still readable, in the gap behind one of them...👍
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 17 күн бұрын
Very cool. Thx.
@dutch4117
@dutch4117 15 күн бұрын
I helped remove a room of plaster and lathe from a 1930s farm house so that the walls could be insulated better. The wall cavities were filled with newspaper. We spent a lot of time reading what we could.
@j10001
@j10001 16 күн бұрын
My 1941 house in New England has sheet rock on interior walls, covered with a uniform ½ inch of plaster layers (including a thin brown coat and a white coat 2:03). You’re 100% correct that they saw sheet rock as a replacement _for the lath only_ (and they kept the lathers on staff to install it), and the plaster guys were the the other half of the team, so they stayed employed as well-even though today we see sheet rock as a finished product with a single installer.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 15 күн бұрын
100% Thanks for watching.
@davidmann4533
@davidmann4533 13 күн бұрын
My house was built in 1941 and thank God it just has sheet rock with no plaster
@paulnicholson1906
@paulnicholson1906 9 күн бұрын
That’s how our house is.
@taradactyl5690
@taradactyl5690 14 күн бұрын
When drywall taping became popular, plasterers rejected it and tapers as inferior tradesmen. This was a big mistake, because the tapers were swallowed up by the painters union, while the plastering trade became more and more obsolete.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 13 күн бұрын
Thx
@mitchellragle6415
@mitchellragle6415 12 күн бұрын
Plaster is still the superior product. Drywall is only used because it is cheaper. As any product cheaper means less durable
@davidferguson2898
@davidferguson2898 11 күн бұрын
​@@mitchellragle6415 I consider sheetrock to be entirely superior as a wall finish. Not at risk for cracking from the house settling, easier to patch and repair when you need to access wall interiors, and much, much less messy to handle, install, and demolish. What advantages does plaster have?
@mitchellragle6415
@mitchellragle6415 10 күн бұрын
@@davidferguson2898 plaster is the skim coat on the walls. They still do it over special drywall that is manufactured with a adhesive primer that helps the bond coat. The drywall is taped and corner bead just like regular drywall. But then plaster is skimmed over the entire surface. The plus side is it’s not soft like regular drywall so it’s hard to make dents and scratches in it
@ps7462
@ps7462 10 күн бұрын
@@davidferguson2898 from what I can tell here when we talk about plaster, we’re talking about gypsum plaster. Both gypsum plaster and drywall when becoming wet if it should happen, have to be torn out. It never dries. Drywall is primarily gypsum. However, going further back in time to lime plaster, it’s advantages are: alkaline, so therefore nearly impossible for mold to grow, permeable (breathable). If lime mortar becomes wet, it will dry out. Unfortunately, for three coat lime work, it would take about a month to finish a room. Basically, you need about 10 days in between coats and it is desirable to keep the plaster somewhat moist. Lime plasterers are much more forgiving to movement. In historic renovations in England and Scotland, lime mortar is necessary when used adjacent to wood. Via capillary action, moisture will move from the wood to the lime. Wood next to Portland products will rot, as there is no capillary action. The beauty of a lime plaster wall is unmatched!
@Shahrdad
@Shahrdad 2 жыл бұрын
I live in a large brick house from 1897, and luckily, almost all the plaster walls are intact. In very few places, we have had to replace it with sheetrock, but most of the repairs have been done with the old three layer technique. Compared to sheetrock, I find that the plaster simply looks better, and it is much quieter as well. In modern homes, one can often hear everything going on next door, where as with plaster walls, very little sound come through.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Thanks for sharing.
@ensatlantic
@ensatlantic 5 ай бұрын
Regarding the noise, you obviously have to put some sort of noise insulation between sheet rock plates of an interior wall - either rockwool or something more natural. In Europe we now have hemp mats for instance that work as a heat and sound insulation.
@dad1432
@dad1432 17 күн бұрын
Thicker drywall reduces noise, too. Using 5/8" instead of 1/2" makes a difference.
@darkfur18
@darkfur18 15 күн бұрын
​@@ensatlanticI've heard shredded recycled denim works well
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 13 күн бұрын
Two layers of 10mm/3/8” is used where sound deadening is important. Thermal insulation also helps damp noise propagation.
@beckerderbacker4976
@beckerderbacker4976 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact, in today's modern world, wifi signals transmit better through drywall than plaster.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Good point! Thanks.
@firstname-qq3xp
@firstname-qq3xp 3 ай бұрын
yea, and dont forget the bed squeaking
@allenatkins2263
@allenatkins2263 3 ай бұрын
@@firstname-qq3xp Giggity
@swisschalet1658
@swisschalet1658 27 күн бұрын
That’s why they “outlawed” lead based paint. They can’t have people in their homes being “shielded “ from the propaganda they continue to beam in.
@jamesdevries5722
@jamesdevries5722 2 жыл бұрын
Brent, I enjoyed the video however you missed one important point. Drywall lath was originally used to replace the labor intensive wood lath application and in many cases the scratch coat. It did not originally replace the brown, or leveling coat. This all-important coat is the one that allows the plasterer to build the wall out to the grounds as well as straighten and square up the wall and room through the dot and screed process to prepare for a full finish coat. I live in a 1962 ranch style builders home which has walls plastered in this way. It is very common in this area (Western Michigan) and in houses from late '40's into the '70's. Of course now virtually all houses and commercial buildings use drywall that is taped, finished and painted and the finished product is rarely as straight, square and plumb as traditional plaster would be. There are still a fair number of us traditional plasterers around (I have just over 30 years experience) who know the difference.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Hi James, your voice and perspective are so important. You are practicing an historic trade. I really appreciate you. I didn't mean to say it was replacing the brown coat. I meant to say it was replacing the wood lath. If I misspoke thanks for correcting. Cheers.
@Adksnate
@Adksnate 16 күн бұрын
We did a renovation and found some kind of Sheetrock board that was layered with paper. Probably around 5 different layers of paper and drywall. Any idea what this is?
@psyience3213
@psyience3213 15 күн бұрын
@@Adksnate it's probably just layers of sheetrock. There isn't like a multi layer sheetrock product, but it is common to install multiple layers.
@Adksnate
@Adksnate 15 күн бұрын
This was a board product. 1/16 gypsum or some other product then a layer of paper. Then another 1/16 of gypsum an so on and made up a 5/8" board.
@francoisbouvier7861
@francoisbouvier7861 15 күн бұрын
@jamesdevries5722 the Darby was/is a wonderful tool in the right hands. My uncle and mentor built our house in 64. I remember the tradesman/plasterer/ stucco man very well.
@Torby4096
@Torby4096 4 күн бұрын
I have worked in a few old houses, and I admire the skill of those old plasterers.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 3 күн бұрын
Agreed!! Thx.
@lisalaufenberg6002
@lisalaufenberg6002 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the education, I do love my plaster walls for many reasons, one not mentioned is the ability to hang a painting on the wall anywhere I would like, one does not have to worry about finding a stud. Thank you Brent!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@trickyricky12147
@trickyricky12147 13 күн бұрын
Yeah that's true
@StringerNews1
@StringerNews1 14 күн бұрын
My childhood home (built 1958) had sheetrock in the closets, several layers thick. But the rooms were plastered. Instead of lath, there was perforated steel. The first layer looked like spray-on concrete. It was solid stuff! Great for soundproofing.
@johnnyxmusic
@johnnyxmusic 14 күн бұрын
Yes, expanded metal lath.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 13 күн бұрын
Thx.
@paulnicholson1906
@paulnicholson1906 9 күн бұрын
@@johnnyxmusic that stuff is nasty to remove.
@DoubleMrE
@DoubleMrE 7 күн бұрын
I worked on a house that had walls like that, except the bottom layer was 1/4 drywall with holes in it. But it did have that really hard first layer that you mentioned. Like you said…very solid. 😊
@sazafrass
@sazafrass Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I found this amazing resource just trying to find out why drywall is used at all.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Speed, and I think at first a desire for better quality- flatter walls.
@JohnSmith-fq3rg
@JohnSmith-fq3rg 17 күн бұрын
It is VERY HARD to have flat walls with plaster. That's why most plaster walls are heavily textured or the imperfections are hidden by patterned wallpaper. It's fast to put up, and easy to put up. You can do whole walls and ceilings by yourself easily eith sheetrock, and you can add nails and screws easily, which hold well on the sheetrock alone without needing to hit a stud, and add receptacle or light fixture holes easily without shattering the wall like with plaster. Sheetrock is just objectively superior in almost every way to plaster for interior walls. And if you bump it you can easily patch over or ignore the dent, where plaster might break off a big chunk or sheet and even ir patched will likely leave stresses and fractures that will split later with temperature and humidity changes. Sheetrock isn't fire proof but it is very good at acting as a firewall since only the paper backing is flamable, you have much more gypsum between surfaces for fire to try and penetrate than you have with plaster and the wood lathe underneath. Sheetrock is really just that good for interior walls and as long as you don't soak it in standing water, it will last just fine.
@jasonconnor8492
@jasonconnor8492 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Was working on my house built in 1940's and noticed a plaster final coat, on a brown /scratch coat, on what looked to be 2 ft wide pieces of drywall hung horizontally.... have wondered why about the wall build up .. now it makes sense. Thank you again for sharing!!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Great, thanks for watching.
@jacobecorder
@jacobecorder 2 жыл бұрын
1935 house. Early sheetrock that is 1/2 thick. 16" wide ran horizontal. Then 1/2 cement type base and 1/4 finish coat. Crazy stuff tough as nails. I hope to replicate it upstairs instead of just fragile sheetrock. Great video Brent. Thanks!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, good info!!
@elginoctave
@elginoctave Жыл бұрын
My house was remodeled in 1929, and in the second floor, the walls were made with long, horizontal sheets, I think which were about 2 feet high, and 8 feet long. (It was 20 years ago while gutting I saw the insides of the walls. The sheets had evenly spaced 1 inch (about) holes, which "keyed" the skim coat of plaster to the base. As you noted Jacob, this sheet base was as tough as cement!, and it was coated with very tough plaster. I could see this as just another evolutionary step in trying to lower the cost of plastering. And it isn't like plaster with wooden lath boards just got replaced by drywall. Instead, as plaster kept evolving, from the lathe boards, to sheets of plaster/concrete like Jacob had, or I had from 1929, it ended up as modern "blue board", which is plaster, done up so that it is fast to install as the base coat of plaster effectively. But plaster didn't just turn into drywall, and plaster disappeared over a few decades........ Where I live, into the 1960s, ranch houses were made with "blue board", skim coated with veneer base coat, and a veneer finish coat. The "veneer" plaster lived side by side with drywall in the market place, and because, as is even true today, drywall is simply cheaper to install, so it won out in the competitive residential construction marketplace. I am not saying what Brent says is wrong, but some more nuance is needed to be told in the story of where did drywall come from, and what happened to plaster........ some of that story is hinted at in Jacob's 1935 house, and in my 1929 remodeled house. I love your videos,,,,,,,,,,, Thanks.....
@PNdebt-hc2tg
@PNdebt-hc2tg 4 ай бұрын
1/2" SR is plenty strong enough. But you could buy 5/8 impact board if you wanted.
@user-kv4kc4pg6l
@user-kv4kc4pg6l 17 күн бұрын
In Canada black asphalt impregnated exterior fibreboard was called Tentest The interior kind of fibreboard was called Homasote Very common in low cost or vacation homes in Ontario Gyproc plaster board was used up to the mid 70s Plastering trade died out replaced by drywallers Some high end homes have level 5 drywall ( skim coat) but it’s harder to find people with the trowel skills
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 17 күн бұрын
THx for sharing.
@SenileOtaku
@SenileOtaku 12 күн бұрын
We had that asphalt-impregnated fiberboard on the house that used to occupy this location. It did get covered with a foam-board insulation in the early 2000s, but when we had a fore start outside I think the fiberboard helped it spread all that much faster.
@paulnicholson1906
@paulnicholson1906 9 күн бұрын
They still make Homasote. It is made from recycled paper.
@mk1st
@mk1st 13 күн бұрын
My house was built in 1936 and has what I now think was an attempt by the plaster industry to stay relevant: factory made plaster panels that are 3' x 5' that were nailed up which then only needed two skim coats to finish. No lath! (which was a blessing when it came to dense packing the walls with insulation).
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 12 күн бұрын
Thx for sharing.
@jackww839
@jackww839 2 жыл бұрын
I could go either way on sheet rock but it’s definitely not a loss of craftsmanship like we see with carpentry today (in general) Thanks for keeping it going!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough! I do think it ranks, but maybe not as much.
@kurtvonfricken6829
@kurtvonfricken6829 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting presentation, as always. I’m going to use plaster in my new build, which is also an interesting topic( modern plastering techniques). Some people don’t even know that plaster is still done, it is considered a high end material because of its hardness, but finding people that know how to properly apply it isn’t always easy. Also I’d love to hear your opinion on plaster vs. wood moulding. Perhaps it is worth a video!
@barryallen5507
@barryallen5507 2 жыл бұрын
I second this, plaster molding is still quite popular in some countries in Europe and Asia.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, challenge accepted. Thanks.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. We use it quite a bit. Thanks.
@aaron___6014
@aaron___6014 2 жыл бұрын
Plaster makes a space much quieter, which to me makes it more comfortable. Hope it turns out well!
@CountSessine
@CountSessine 3 ай бұрын
It's too hard to find tradespeople who know how to do this, at least in western Canada. We wanted to do plaster work for our walls but gave up finding anyone to do it.
@philipkern6774
@philipkern6774 14 күн бұрын
Don’t forget about split lath and plaster that was used prior to cut lath strips. I owned a house in Maine that was built in 1813 that used this method. When I was replacing walls with Sheetrock, I’d skim off the plaster and leave up the split lath. Very easy to screw into and hardly a miss with the screws!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 13 күн бұрын
True. Thx.
@solverfix
@solverfix 2 күн бұрын
Hi Brent, thanks for this video. For what it's worth...I've been a sheetrock and insulation contractor since the 1990's. Around 2008 I became a home performance and weatherization contractor with BPI envelope and building analyst certifications. I've worked on hundreds of homes over the years and have seen a lot of different things. I live in a 1964 ranch and have been remodeling it over the years. What I've found is it has a R-9 fiberglass batt in the exterior walls with a layer of the fiber board you mentioned with T1-11 over that. To my surprise this is one of the most energy efficient homes I've seen. I don't know the secret to that stuff but from what I've seen, it has some unique qualities. Sound deadening and albeit small, it does help with the overall R-value (or U-value to be technical).
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 күн бұрын
Ok, good to know! Thx.
@user-hd8ej8yx9p
@user-hd8ej8yx9p 2 жыл бұрын
as a former drywaller of 10 years (office boy now) this is very exciting to learn,
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for watching.
@ivonekowalczyk5823
@ivonekowalczyk5823 16 күн бұрын
Great video. Thanks! We have an interesting old house in Concord NH. They said it was built 1930s, but the front part of the house has definite indications of an older 1870 date, showing up on older maps. We have beaverboard in most of the house, plaster and drywall in newer remodeled parts. Your show helps me make decisions in fixing it, respecting traditions.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 15 күн бұрын
Awesome, so glad it helped. Thx.
@PhilRMcGregor
@PhilRMcGregor 17 күн бұрын
This is cool video. Our house was built in the 1920's and has still has plaster and lath on the main floor. However, while rebuilding our stairs I encoutered wire lath. Ugh! What a pain to remove. My parents' house was a ranch style house built in the 1950's. It plaster over drywall. Even the garage was finished with plater over drywall, although it was a rougher plaster.
@user-vl4vw4ur9b
@user-vl4vw4ur9b 17 күн бұрын
I lived in a wire lath house. The wire lath made the house a Faraday Cage.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 16 күн бұрын
Good to know. Thanks.
@albertstadt9853
@albertstadt9853 15 күн бұрын
@@user-vl4vw4ur9b So you couldn't use radios or tvs without a rooftop antenna (or cablevision)?
@albertstadt9853
@albertstadt9853 15 күн бұрын
no wifi or cellular reception either, I suppose!
@vaalrus
@vaalrus 15 күн бұрын
Fibre-board/buffalo board was widespread on the Canadian prairies up to the 70s, but usually as a sheathing before the application of tar paper, chicken-wire lath, followed by concrete stucco… A few years ago I had to remove an exterior wall for a porch addition, and it was an impressive, if painful to remove wall. The 40s built house had been moved 70 miles to a farmstead in the 70s, and there wasn’t a crack in the stucco.
@whathappened2230
@whathappened2230 12 күн бұрын
My current job has the sheetrock covered by plaster in most places. Some has the hair in the plaster. It also has some of the house just steel mesh and small steel c channel. I did not know why anyone would put plaster over sheetrock, but this video gave me those answers. Thanks Brent!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 12 күн бұрын
Thx!!
@markfowler7171
@markfowler7171 8 ай бұрын
Very nice, I think I can help clarify a little bit. wood lath was replaced by gypsum lath right after WWII. That is what " handy Andy" is putting up in the video.we called it Button board when they put holes in it. It was a two coat process, 3/8 inch gypsum, plaster, we called hardwall and a finish (putty)coat. That was popular for the 50's and into the 60's. . The outside ( stucco) used three coat plaster and wire lath over open studs. By 1970, drywall was replacing interior lath and plaster in major chucks and lath and plaster died out. ( Shame) . Plasterers did like losing interior , but stucco ( outside) was so popular it was ok. we had lots of work.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@jayadinash9102
@jayadinash9102 14 күн бұрын
I lived in a late 1940's house that had 3/8" drywall covered with 1/2" plaster.
@GuttersMN
@GuttersMN 13 күн бұрын
@@jayadinash9102 I live in a 1957 house- same thing. The rooms are basically soundproof, and solid as all get-out!
@dylankmorgan
@dylankmorgan 8 ай бұрын
You made a great point. Finding a new material or method for completing a task that saves time doesn't have to compromise quality. I'd call that an improvement that creates value and moves society forward. Unfortunately, many of the time-saving tactics that people use are just cutting corners, which does compromise quality. This is value-destructive and moves us backward. For example, I inspected a house yesterday with an improperly installed stone veneer that was leaking water into the wall cavity. My assumption is that the homeowner hired unqualified people to work on their house to save money. Now, the stone veneer has to be removed, the moisture damaged wall needs to be repaired, and the veneer system needs to be installed again properly so that it does not leak. I also assume that a well-qualified contractor, who would have done the job right the first time for a higher price, lost the job. No money was saved in the long-term and all parties are worse-off as a result. The only exception might be the unqualified contractor if they are not held accountable for their work. This is what I'm observing daily, and I experience it too in my business.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight!!
@jbrown2905
@jbrown2905 Ай бұрын
In my opinion, (as a 3rd generation, general contractor, in the metro Boston area ) gypsum board/ Sheetrock was the greatest compromise in building practices. It is literally a Petri dish for mold and mildew, catalyzed by the slightest water/ moisture event. I’m perplexed as to why the construction materials industries, at the insistence of the insurance industries hasn’t developed a proper paper wrapper for the panels.
@joetristen993
@joetristen993 16 күн бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for taking the time to post this. I am in Charleston SC and have noticed this, I have seen and worked on many of the original houses with the old wood lath and horse hair in the plaster mix, to perforated drywall with a skim coat and as some one mentioned the half inch or so holes in the drywall boards, I have seen the wire mesh used on curved areas especially. Very interesting seeing the different products used over the years. Also, plaster crown molding is quite fascinating to me.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 15 күн бұрын
Nice, thanks for sharing.
@tyrel7185
@tyrel7185 9 күн бұрын
One of my properties from the 1880’s has horse hair in the plaster to help bind it and prevent cracks.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 9 күн бұрын
Yes, great stuff. Thx!
@eh_bailey
@eh_bailey 2 жыл бұрын
Brent, I agree with you. Sheetrock was a great innovation. The same craft could still be applied to stucco, and blue board plastering, and it still takes some craft to hit level 4 and 5 drywall. It is also worth asking if a craft "needs" to be kept (not a lot of wagonwheel makers). If the finish quality is just as good, but the home costs less, finishes faster, and is accessible to more people, then maybe it is an unnecessary or less-necessary craft. It is also a lot easier to patch and make changes on the future. Not sure on this, but the fire resistance may be better as well. Thanks for putting this together. 👍
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
I see it as a slippery slope. Soon our houses will be printed by machines and they will have no craft. I think one reason why we love certain places around the world is because how they exhibit and celebrate craft. Versailles, the Cotswold's, Philadelphia Hall, etc. I understand what you are saying but not sure we understand the consequences. Thanks for sharing
@eh_bailey
@eh_bailey 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrentHull well, you might be right, maybe there is a happy medium
@Adamanthil
@Adamanthil 2 жыл бұрын
For most cases sheet rock is a lateral move in craftsmanship for lower labor and easier remodeling. But you can only get beautiful coved ceilings and curved walls with plaster.
@Adamanthil
@Adamanthil 2 жыл бұрын
@@guitar-jo I actually just looked this up. Very interesting!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 25 күн бұрын
You can curve Sheetrock in one direction. They usually use the thinner panels, soak them in water and double-layer them, though I believe you can use the thicker panels if you soak it long enough. But, yes, you want a compound curve, plaster is the only option.
@BillSmith-fx7xx
@BillSmith-fx7xx 7 күн бұрын
@@pcno2832 Doen't exposing them to water denigrate the hardness & durability ? I would think any mishandling and it would crumble on the spot.
@clemkadiddlehopper7705
@clemkadiddlehopper7705 5 күн бұрын
I had a house from the 1950s in Georgia around 1000 sq ft. True dimension 2 x 4 studs, 3/8 inch drywall, insoboard as exterior sheathing underneath the aluminum siding. House is still standing strong today, and easy to keep cool with a 4X 4 attic fan in the ceiling. Complete air replacement in the house within 5 minutes.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 4 күн бұрын
Love it. Thx.
@Pudentame
@Pudentame 6 күн бұрын
I lived in a house that had walls using those drywall boards like that shown at 5:43; layer of gypsum board, layer of mortar mix & skim coat of plaster. HARD AS A ROCK. You couldn't drive a nail to hang a picture, you had to take a masonry bit & a hammer drill to make the hole to insert an anchor. The sheet rock/plaster combination was 3/4" thick, so you couldn't patch a repair with 1/2" sheet-rock, I had to find a source for 3/8" sheet-rock and double layer it.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
Ok. Thx.
@RachaelLynnMunson
@RachaelLynnMunson 2 жыл бұрын
So interesting! My house was built in 1918 so the main floor has plaster on the original walls but part of the attic was finished off at some point. Watching this, this is what they used for the walls, but I always thought it was weird that they put plaster over what looks like particle board! And if it gets wet (there was a leak around the chimney from poorly done flashing) it swells and is ruined just like a paper product!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that makes sense now.
@hindesite
@hindesite 16 күн бұрын
I own a 1928 house in New Zealand. Lounge had Beaver Board and batten ceiling; bedroom had Beaver Board walls and ceiling. No building wrap, no insulation, just rough sawn bevelback weatherboards and Beaver Board. Freezing cold and full of windblown sand.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 16 күн бұрын
Nice, thanks for sharing from NZ. Cheers.
@pixelpatter01
@pixelpatter01 16 күн бұрын
I've been told houses in the midwest US were built the same way. I actually lived in a barracks as a kid that was like this. The sand was the silty powdery stuff. I think a common solution to the wind and dust was to paste newspapers to the walls with wheat flour paste.
@hindesite
@hindesite 16 күн бұрын
@@pixelpatter01 in this case this is a beachfront property, it was sand blown off the beach - about 100mm piled up on the dwangs and bottom plate. In some parts of NZ there were buildings - especially tramping huts of which some still exist, that had wall cavities filled with crushed pumice. We followed the way US built houses especially early on, our own house would be considered a California Bungalow.
@obxjeepguy
@obxjeepguy 2 күн бұрын
Thankfully my 1944 slag block house had drywall from the start. I didn't even know 3/8" drywall existed until I started renovating this house!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Күн бұрын
thx.
@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont
@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont 7 күн бұрын
Interesting stuff. Our house was built in late 1925 and the interior walls are lath and plaster at least where not remodeled. One of the upstairs closets has some visible Inso-Board still showing. The exterior was clapboard siding but at some point "Insul-Brick" siding had been applied, probably in the 1950s. Today it has vinyl siding.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 6 күн бұрын
THx.
@daveash9572
@daveash9572 19 күн бұрын
Here in the UK, "plaster board" is routinely used as a substrate onto which wet plaster is applied, absolutely in lieu of the older lath and plaster method. This has many benefits over just smooshing a bit of wet plaster over the joints between plaster boards. I've worked in thousands of buildings where I've found laths behind plaster which has been mixed with hair for strength, and it's still there after 200 yrs
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Cheers.
@2217Video
@2217Video 16 күн бұрын
Called "Fibrous Plaster" in Australia. Ok until someone bumps into it, then you get an area that is saggy and cracked.
@tonycosta3302
@tonycosta3302 15 күн бұрын
That’s how is is still done here in Boston. The plaster finish is so much nicer than a tape and mud job on sheet rock. It also makes mixing the existing plaster and lath with newer “blue board” and plaster. I think the blue is to indicate greater water resistance.
@alanlight7740
@alanlight7740 5 күн бұрын
As an electrician who has had to cut a hole in a plaster wall and fish some Romex through I can tell you that drywall has been a huge blessing for anyone wanting to add an outlet or a switch. Cutting the hole to add a switch took considerably longer than it would have with sheetrock and it was difficult to make the cuts even and neat, and with the rough texture on the backside it took more than half an hour to fish the Romex through where it would typically have taken only a couple minutes with drywall.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
Good to know. Thx.
@wallihaley5194
@wallihaley5194 4 күн бұрын
I totally understand. But I managed to install new outlets in my 105 year old home by having the electrician install them on the floor or baseboards from the basement.
@ghiggs8389
@ghiggs8389 3 күн бұрын
But the old framing makes it easier in many cases. They didn't always use top plates and bottom plates so fishing may be more difficult it simply possible, especially multistory buildings.
@alanlight7740
@alanlight7740 3 күн бұрын
@@wallihaley5194 - that is certainly a good strategy where it is available. Unfortunately, most homeowners are not satisfied with having an electrical switch in the baseboard - and in any case I was working from the attic. 😉
@alanlight7740
@alanlight7740 3 күн бұрын
@@ghiggs8389 - top plates and bottom plates aren't really much of an issue. Even cross studs in the walls can usually be dealt with via a long, flexible bit. Multistory buildings are of course more of an issue, but one can still reduce the amount of repair work required by fishing the wire through the wall portion. But whatever _other_ issues may be involved, the rough texture of the back of the plaster and the wooden backing, etc. make such work much more difficult than when there is sheetrock.
@kennethbarber438
@kennethbarber438 20 күн бұрын
The wood lathe in my family's New England saltbox farmhouse is split along the random grain lines, rather than cut. The interior walls in my circa 1928 city apartment are 3-coat plaster over 1/2" Celotex. It's labeled Celotex Lathe, and says which side is to receive plaster. Very sound proof and very strong.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 19 күн бұрын
Yes, that is the earliest form of lath. Boards were split on the ends and then stretched. Thx for sharing.
@joelinpa185
@joelinpa185 6 күн бұрын
This video explains why my 1947 house has 18" wide drywall under our plaster finish coats. Cost and time savings. Thanks for the enlightenment.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@bigbob3772
@bigbob3772 3 ай бұрын
My 1870s solid masonry farmhouse had plaster, no drywall. My addition is wood and CEMENT BOARD, in place of drywall. Drywall has paper, bugs love to eat paper and mold will grow if moisture is high. Cement board does NOT do this., it also will not burn, will not rot, and does not crumble when wet. As you always say- build with the RIGHT materials if you want it to last.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 3 ай бұрын
Nice. Thanks for sharing.
@robhersey1796
@robhersey1796 24 күн бұрын
I could imagine how strong and durable walls would be if done with Hardie board but holy moly $$$.
@sacia4339
@sacia4339 17 күн бұрын
​@@robhersey1796if you care about the costs, you could build the structure in concrete and brick, and just make the walls in drywall. I think this solution gives you the best of both.
@lazydadsgarage
@lazydadsgarage 17 күн бұрын
Cement board will eventually crumble. Source: I live in Houston and see failed Hardie all the time
@bigbob3772
@bigbob3772 17 күн бұрын
@@lazydadsgarage hardie is not cement board
@jimimmler9110
@jimimmler9110 18 күн бұрын
It’s my understanding that Sheetrock had some controversy during its implementation. Thousands of plasterers might not have accepted it so it was marketed and sized as a replacement to the laborious lath installation portion. At that time the surface finish was not as good. Eventually plasterers transitioned to using it as the final surface and also sheet size and paper quality improved. One of the most ingenious product implementation tactics ever to hit the building industry.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 18 күн бұрын
I haven't read about the controversy but i don't doubt. The fact that so many companies offered this type of product means it must have saved a lot of time compared to nailing up individual lath strips. Thx for sharing.
@itoibo4208
@itoibo4208 16 күн бұрын
this. I was thinking how many plasterers were pulling their hair out worrying about losing their jobs and how many probably refused to use it for as long as possible.
@raedwulf61
@raedwulf61 7 күн бұрын
I've come across a lot of Celotex on older houses on Long Island. Also, many Levittown houses on LI used an exterior sheetrock, which was covered with black paper and water-resistant. After some 75 years, it is still doing its job underneath the asbestos shingles.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 7 күн бұрын
Interesting. Thx.
@nickfromm5315
@nickfromm5315 15 күн бұрын
Love drywall, especially when interior walls are insulated. Germans can have cinderblocks. I love renovating my 60 year old home, tearing down walls, building new ones. Additions, renovations, etc.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 15 күн бұрын
Ok.
@JL-hn6hi
@JL-hn6hi 2 жыл бұрын
Brent, any idea of the history for why the finish plastering trade (on blue board) stayed strong in the Boston area, and other places switched to the drywall approach? The tradesmen were simply concentrated there in New England?
@brandonfrancey5592
@brandonfrancey5592 2 жыл бұрын
I wold definitely guess that it would be due to a concentration of old world workers. Just about everything comes down to cost. In most places drywall would be cheaper as it's faster and required less skilled workers where in Boston, plasters wold be a dime a dozen so their cost would be fairly low and content doing what they spent their life doing. Purely a guess but everything always comes down to money.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
I think a strong reason is building traditions, and yes skilled trades professionals. I also suspect some architects and builders demand it. We see it here in Texas but it is rare.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is a lot of truth in what your saying. Thanks.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 25 күн бұрын
@@brandonfrancey5592 There is a strong financial case for using plaster when doing repairs and maintenance on an existing property, since the contractors can get in and out in one day. But there are probably more home buyers around Boston who want plaster just so they can say they have it, and then some walls in directly light that look better with the random imperfection of plaster and with the subtle grid pattern you see when light hit taped drywall at a shallow angle. I assume they use texturing and/or wall coverings on such walls in places where you can't find a plasterer.
@dr.strangelove5708
@dr.strangelove5708 3 күн бұрын
Perhaps it is because Boston has a lot of the old rich families and they want their plaster expense be damned!
@alonzobrickman7418
@alonzobrickman7418 5 күн бұрын
Sheetrock definitely saves time and money. I may be wrong, but I also believe it requires less craftsmanship to install so there's another money saver. I live in a 1952 ranch home with wood lath and plaster, aside from a few cracks due to settling it still looks great. My wife and I raised three boys and despite their best efforts they could never even dent the walls, I don't think sheetrock would've held up as well. Another plus for plaster is that I can hang almost anything anywhere on any wall without a stud-finder or anchor screws.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 4 күн бұрын
Yes, and Thanks.
@johnjones928
@johnjones928 6 күн бұрын
My house was built in the mid fifties and has paster over gypsum interior walls. It's a pain doing renovations because the thickness of the plaster is inconsistent so in some cases it's easier to just sheet rock an entire wall than cut out a section and build it up. Not to mention they papered over the final plaster coat which is now peeling, so I'm also skim coating, sanding and heavy priming to get a smooth base for painting.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
Thx.
@bdidier37
@bdidier37 2 жыл бұрын
I know in boston they use US gypsum blue board and float a layer of plaster over the whole thing. If you look up NS builders they have some videos on it.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks for sharing.
@kennethbarber438
@kennethbarber438 20 күн бұрын
NYC as well, but pricey
@anthonyloran4442
@anthonyloran4442 2 жыл бұрын
Plaster is great until you have to remove it for renovation work. Most that I have worked on is on wire lathe, walls, ceilings, and tile bathrooms.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
True! Thanks for sharing
@finscreenname
@finscreenname 11 күн бұрын
I have 2 early 1950's town houses in Maryland. Both, they put up 1/4" drywall and then plastered 2 layers over it. It came in 2 foot wide by 8 foot sheets. Just basically replaced the wood with the sheetrock board.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 10 күн бұрын
Thx for sharing.
@PSNDonutDude
@PSNDonutDude 19 күн бұрын
We removed a wall in our house, one side was lathe and plaster with horse hair, the other side was lathe, wire and plaster. Removing the wire was hell, but it did hold on amazing. It was odd because qe found some newspaper in the walls from the 50s, which tells me the lathe was probably really old and the wire was used in a remodel or renovation of the plaster. The plaster on the ground floor seems to be newer than the plaster work on our second floor. It makes sense to me that originally drywall was used as a backer for plaster. We essentially still do, we just use sandable plaster and only fill the gaps in the drywall.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 18 күн бұрын
Thanks.
@Csharpflat5
@Csharpflat5 17 күн бұрын
Lath
@RADIUMGLASS
@RADIUMGLASS Жыл бұрын
if any rodents got in the walls they couldn't bite through the metal lathe. That was one of the advertising features back in the twenties.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Interesting. thanks.
@iunnox666
@iunnox666 17 күн бұрын
Sheetrock is why we don't have nice moldings anymore and everything is square. Much faster and cheaper, but there's not much of an art to it.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 17 күн бұрын
Word.
@MichaelHampton-Whitney
@MichaelHampton-Whitney 3 күн бұрын
We have a 1956 model home that has two layers of 1/4 inch sheetrock with a thin layer of plaster over that. I believe it was used for extra sound insulation since this model home was on a corner lot. We have the brochure from our local 1956 Parade of Homes for the house as well.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 күн бұрын
Thanks.
@puglydoodle
@puglydoodle Күн бұрын
I grew up in a brick house in Wisconsin that was built around 1930. The inside had a brown fibrous material about 1/2 inch thick. A thin coat of plaster was floated over top.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Күн бұрын
yep. Thx
@petemclinc
@petemclinc 2 жыл бұрын
Drywall (sheetrock) is truly a time and labor saving material compared to installing wood lath, however, if you want an exceptional wall surface finish, you will plaster over it...
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Mej_Javiky
@Mej_Javiky 20 күн бұрын
In my 1950"s house the drywall has holes for the plaster to have a better hold. I have always assumed it was used in the place of lathe. The dry wall is very thick, and so is the plaster. It worked so well that when we bought the house in 2000 and had it moved 20 miles to our property, it had very little cracking to the plaster. California
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 20 күн бұрын
Wow, amazing. Thx.
@richdiddens4059
@richdiddens4059 17 күн бұрын
I've seen that while doing remodels during the late '70s in the Bay Area and old timers called it button board.
@vicmontes7314
@vicmontes7314 17 күн бұрын
@@BrentHull My 1938 Sears Kit House here in Northern VA (next to the W&OD RR, now Bike Trail) used the same perforated (holes are about 1"-1-1/2" dia) paper finished gypsum sheet goods with a brown coat and plaster finish. Don't have much of it left as I've done some pretty extensive remodeling and additions and it's prone to cracking the plaster and delaminating. The last thing to ride on that RR were the prefabricated rebar lattice for the columns at Dulles Airport. They were built at the Four Mile Run industrial area of Arlington, VA by Trowbridge Steel...I think they are still around.
@ralphmb58
@ralphmb58 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you in that I see sheetrock as being an improvement. What I'm interested in these days is trying to match some finishes on drywall that comes close to the historical finishes. Mixing mud in varying consistencies and applying the mud to the drywall in various ways to simulate vintage textures. I have even experimented with adding sand to the drywall mud in order to give that gritty appearance that some plaster finishes had. I'm curious as to what you do in trying to apply a historic finish on to drywall.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Great question. Yes, we have added sand to drywall mud to match Plaster. Lately we have been using some clays and other special finishes on plaster that make it look like a plaster and stone.
@aceopinions
@aceopinions 3 күн бұрын
Great and interesting video! My first house was a 1930 colonial in NJ. The basement ceiling and parts of the 3rd floor attic was finished in this " weird cardboard" material about 3/4 inch thick. I never know what it was called. I assumed it was an early version of Masonite, but this clears things up. It was installed with a wide head nail and where the edges joined, they used wood lattice. In my house , it looks like they covered it with a varnish or shellac instead of paint.. - Tom
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 күн бұрын
Thx!
@bobpoor6348
@bobpoor6348 2 жыл бұрын
The fireproof aspect of those early materials like Insoboard and Celotex was due to asbestos content so best to wear a proper mask when you run into it on a tearout.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. Thanks.
@bradwatson7324
@bradwatson7324 2 жыл бұрын
Lath and plaster was the innovative product that replaced wattle and daub.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. Thanks.
@micheleemcdaniel389
@micheleemcdaniel389 2 жыл бұрын
'wattle and daub' ?
@benjones3329
@benjones3329 17 күн бұрын
When discussing the insulating value of an exterior board, such as Celotex I think it’s important to keep in mind that the alternative was pine boards nailed on usually with half inch gaps between the boards. so even though the seams weren’t taped, it would still hold considerably more heat.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 16 күн бұрын
Ok, good point.
@Vreejack
@Vreejack 8 күн бұрын
My building went up in 1943. The walls use sheetrock lath, a brown coat and a finish coat. The rocklath was nailed into the ceiling joists, but over the years some of the nails began to pull through. But even though the pieces of rocklath were small (24x48?) they were all held together by the brown coat, until so many pulled through that large pieces of the ceiling would crash down, heavily, all at once. Had this happen a few times. Putting up channels and screwing in another ceiling all the way through to the joist helped stabilize them all.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 күн бұрын
Nice. Thanks.
@joemodley7934
@joemodley7934 2 жыл бұрын
Sheetrock is nowhere near as strong as lathe and plaster... although it is easier to repair, even though it needs repaired a lot more often... but with the lack of craftsmen today... it's probably a good thing!!!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
I'm split on the issue and see both sides. Thanks.
@mothanwrdz
@mothanwrdz 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer traditional lime and earthen clay plasters. Going with drywall on an old house in an attempt to reduce labor costs is akin to replacing all the old millwork with vinyl in an attempt to save on artisan labor and eliminate the need to have to worry about keeping up with maintenance of the wood. Sure, it can be done. But the end product will be missing its soul.
@kurtvonfricken6829
@kurtvonfricken6829 2 жыл бұрын
Vinyl on a house?? Yeech! That's like putting ketchup on a hot dog. Some things simply don't belong. The only place I would maybe accept anything plastic anywhere on my house would be toilet tank parts and PVC drain lines, and I’d still be suspicious of them. (and I don't think PEX, which I think is an incredible product can be considered plastic).
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@eh_bailey
@eh_bailey 2 жыл бұрын
I can partially agree. If it is showing, I totally understand, and I would definitely agree for plaster (maybe without lathe. However, if it will be under wallpaper, paneling, etc., then I don't see a need to avoid drywall. It has great fire-reduction benefits and saves you money that could go toward details that will be in display.
@twobluestripes
@twobluestripes 2 жыл бұрын
A young (well, my age, so I guess early 30s now) blogger I follow who is slowly restoring his victorian house in Kingston, NY, discovered several years back that if he used 2 layers of drywall, instead of 1, it creates more of the heavy and deep deadened sound of his plaster walks. He really loved the plaster, but it was fully destroyed in several rooms, including ceilings. He spent a chunk of change to have a few spaces redone by some excellent plasterers, but needed to stay on a lower budget for other spaces. He uses offcuts fir the first layer of drywall and puzzles them together all crazy, seems untaped. Them the second layer how you would normally, then the whole wall is skim coated.
@tonymazzola1821
@tonymazzola1821 15 күн бұрын
Your channel popped up in my KZfaq suggestions and since I do home remodeling for customers in Boston and vicinity I too have run into early versions of sheet rock measuring smaller than the common 4” x 8” sheets. In addition, I had to tear down a ceiling made from Celotex and looking at the backside of this product found a factory sticker identifying what it was and its uses. I was curious and went searching on line to see if there was any information and your video did a nice job giving the history about these 20th century building products. In addition when opening walls during renovations, I usually find products left by the workmen which, in my experience, are time capsules of the homes I have worked in!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 15 күн бұрын
Nice!! I have the same experience. Thanks for the feedback.
@ethanheyne
@ethanheyne 4 күн бұрын
I recently tried looking up the architect who designed our church building in the 50's. The ONLY hits were two homes he designed for the "Celotex Homes" house plan magazines. And then Celotex popped up in this video. Wonder where I'll see it next.
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 8 күн бұрын
We have a 100 year old farmhouse. We rent it. What's interesting is the wood, over time, has become hard as iron. Either that or perhaps the original wood was some very dense oak tree that grew slow and is very hard. In any event it has a great skeleton and probably could last another 100 years. And this old house did have 'slats' with plaster in some places, that is, pre-sheetrock. Subscribed!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 күн бұрын
Nice. Thanks!!
@alanlight7740
@alanlight7740 5 күн бұрын
As an electrician I've had to do some renovations of older buildings. It's common for the wood to dry out and harden over the years. In some cases it was almost impossible to drive a nail into the wood - the nail would simply bend. I'm not sure that makes the wood stronger, as strength and hardness are different things. However, the older buildings did tend to have higher quality wood, and things like one 4x4 where today framers would use two 2x4s to reduce costs. Of course going back to the early 1900s and the 2x4s were really 2 x 4, not 1.5 x 3.5.
@TinManKustoms
@TinManKustoms 2 жыл бұрын
So here's my thoughts on lathe and plaster versus drywall. Lathe and plaster walls would have been stronger and reduced racking on walls as the building settled over time. It took a skilled crafts man to finish walls smooth. Drywall does not provide any racking or sheer factor as it will allow screws to come loose over time and it doesn't require much skill to finish. The other point to look at is lathe and plaster walls do not fall apart when subject to water compared to drywall falls apart when wet. Also one final thought is plaster walls are easily repaired cause all you do is remove loose material and reapply compared to drywall you have to remove the damaged sheet and replace with a new one.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
The water issue is the big one for me. Plaster can absorb alot of water, then release it without any compromise to strength or rigidity. This makes it superior. Thanks for sharing.
@jamesdevries5722
@jamesdevries5722 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting fact is that, while drywall is a nearly perfect growth medium for black mold when damp, traditional lime plaster is mold resistant due to the fact that the lime is re-activated by water an kills mold.
@daltonbedore8396
@daltonbedore8396 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdevries5722 just one more instance of the cheaper option also being the riskier option!
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 24 күн бұрын
I think it depends on what they use in the "plaster". I've seen plaster (gypsum-based, I believe) turn to sand and never re-harden while that "rock lath" under it drys out and re-hardens with a little warping. But if they make the "plaster" using lime, doesn't that re-harden? And if they use enough portland cement in the plaster, it will probably stay hard, even when wet.
@theblackbear211
@theblackbear211 6 күн бұрын
Thanks, having worked on a number of houses built from the 1920's to the mid 1960's I've run into a number of applications of these various products.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 6 күн бұрын
THx
@Robert-tj3qq
@Robert-tj3qq 6 күн бұрын
I saw alot of what you're talking about while remodeling older homes. Commercial work is dense glass and mineral wool as insulation.for exterior applications.nice video
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
Thanks!!
@t.e.1189
@t.e.1189 Жыл бұрын
I've seen blue color sheet rock about 18" to 24" wide, hanged horizontally as lathe. It was perforated with holes about 1/2" in diameter if I remember correctly so the plaster could key to. I think it was 1950s, not sure. Love your channel!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Жыл бұрын
Good to know. I haven't seen that one but I believe it.
@jefffreestone8476
@jefffreestone8476 13 күн бұрын
My dad was still buying and installing the 4 x 8 sheets insulating board in the mid 1970s. Plywood on the corners for strength in the body of the house with insulating board, which was less than half price.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 13 күн бұрын
Wow. Thx.
@kulturfreund6631
@kulturfreund6631 13 күн бұрын
Nice presentation indeed. The history of building techniques and materials is a fascinating subject. - Thanks for the video. Very interesting 👍
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 13 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@michaeldibb
@michaeldibb 17 күн бұрын
We call it plasterboard in the UK but it's the same as sheetrock. We still put a finish coat across the whole board for durability. Whereas in the US it's only the edges and screw holes get plastered.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 17 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Thx.
@lanialost1320
@lanialost1320 17 күн бұрын
I lived in UK, and you're correct about plasterboard walls there. But in USA, the more modern houses are built with one of 2 types of "sheetrock/wallboard" -- the better quality one is "sheetrock", where the whole of it gets covered with a skim coat of plaster (not just the joins/seams and screws), and the lower quality (in my opinion) one is "wallboard" where the joins/seams are taped with a joint compound feathered over and the screw holes filled. You would then apply the paint onto wallboard paper, instead of onto a skim coat of plaster. Wallboard is a cheaper end product that does not require skilled plasterers, and I find it always looks cheap compared to skim coated walls when painted. Plus, the paper finish is more prone to damage when re-painting.
@walterbordett2023
@walterbordett2023 7 күн бұрын
My 1927 house in Syracuse NY was built with "rocklath" a paper and gypsum product with five layers of paper with three gypsum layers. Very stiff product. It was covered with brown coat and then finish plaster. The rocklath was about 3/8 inch thick and was in small sheets maybe 24 by 48 or 16 by 32. It was a long time ago that we demo'd that kitchen. The brown coat had horsetail in it.
@walterbordett2023
@walterbordett2023 7 күн бұрын
My bad. It was four paper layers.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 6 күн бұрын
THx
@ronfry3324
@ronfry3324 6 күн бұрын
I can tell you from personal experience that the Iso Board does burn, BUT it had to be in the direct fire for a considerable time and it burned very slow. That and the fact that the attic had been built right against the 100 yr old clap board lead painted siding saved the rest of the house when our attic caught fire.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 6 күн бұрын
THx.
@daifeichu
@daifeichu 17 күн бұрын
In the early 90's I was working for this framing contractor and he had his own personal house built. He wanted plaster instead of just drywall. For the lathe they put up perforated drywall and then the plaster.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 16 күн бұрын
Interesting. Thx.
@danielcarroll3358
@danielcarroll3358 15 күн бұрын
My mother's house was built at the end of the second world war and used perforated drywall as the lath replacement. On the other hand, my house was built in 1903 and used traditional lath and plaster, since all replaced in a complete rebuild from the 4-1/4" by 2" rough cut 2x4s up.
@Locustandhoney
@Locustandhoney 16 күн бұрын
I’ve torn out a few walls that were 1930’s consisting of gyp board with metal lath on top of it. It was definitely a transition period. The rock was much quicker than wood lath but not fully trusted. Great video!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 16 күн бұрын
Great insight. THanks.
@tsiefhtes
@tsiefhtes 3 күн бұрын
I've seen that fibrous board before, it was used in a tiny two room farmhouse that was built in the early 1900s. The old shack was falling apart but it was set on my Parent's farm in my childhood during the early 90s. I've seen it a few other buildings built around the same time. Going onto plaster one thing that drywall has changed that I miss is the introduction of curves in buildings. When plaster and lath were used it was not uncommon to see interior and exterior curved walls, now they're practically unheard of in new construction.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 күн бұрын
Thanks.
@ryanmichael1298
@ryanmichael1298 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info. My dad had some Uncles that were in the plastering business from what I assume was in the 1910s - 1930s, maybe. They would start a job and get a down payment upfront, then they would go get plastered and didn't always come back to finish the job or so i heard.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 6 күн бұрын
Yikes. Ok.
@weldongreen9547
@weldongreen9547 16 күн бұрын
We use those cellulose boards as external sheathing that insulates and absorbs/releases moisture and breaths now in EU building. Also we have the same thing on the inside that is meant for less wet environments.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 16 күн бұрын
Interesting. Thx.
@satchmodog2
@satchmodog2 2 жыл бұрын
I was rehabbing an old Sears family vacation home in NE Illinois and it was built in the early 20s. The house was mostly drywall, especially upstairs.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for sharing!
@jasonrodgers9063
@jasonrodgers9063 6 күн бұрын
My 1927 vintage home is plaster/lath. The only substantial update I did was the main floor bathroom. I used "GreenBoard" drywall. I can't begin to IMAGINE what a pain in the butt a remodel with plaster & lath would be!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
Word. Thx.
@tednisbeth3088
@tednisbeth3088 4 күн бұрын
I am a retired builder and in my years of working on all kinds of homes , I noticed wood lath and then a drywall board that was only 2 feet wide and 8 feet long that had 1 1/2 " or 2 " holes that replaced the lath and than they realized it was better to leave out the hole .... todays drywall .
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 4 күн бұрын
Yep. Thx.
@TravisHRF16CC
@TravisHRF16CC 6 күн бұрын
I owned a ranch home built in 1951 that had all its original walls…no mods at all. Gypsum lath, brown plaster, white finishing plaster. There were a number of settlement cracks that needed repair, but the walls were flat, smooth and very solid.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 күн бұрын
Ok. Thx.
@PeeedaPan
@PeeedaPan 2 жыл бұрын
i love your channel. Craftsmen style homes are my favorite. Hope to build one
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! Thanks for watching.
@richw2615
@richw2615 3 күн бұрын
My mom and aunt live in two different phases of the same neighborhood. Their houses were built one year apart and I believe by the same builder, Allied builders. My aunts house from 1960 has 3/8" sheetrock lath and plaster. The sheetrock panels are 2' x 4' and have small holes for the plaster to lock onto. It is covered with 3/8" of plaster with expanded metal at the corners. My moms house from 1961 is just straight modern finished sheetrock. My house from 1952 is also modern sheetrock but was a custom home.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 күн бұрын
Nice. Thx for sharing.
@jamesalanstephensmith7930
@jamesalanstephensmith7930 13 күн бұрын
I’ve also seen gypsum “plasterboard” in NYC with many one inch perforations that was coated with the gray coat, removing the laborious lathing process speeding up the process by removing at least one phase of wall finishing. It was still plastered… And I don’t know the timeframe. Interesting video!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 13 күн бұрын
Thx!!
@tonyhemingway7980
@tonyhemingway7980 10 күн бұрын
I own a lake house that was built in 1934. The upstairs rooms were divided by using isoboard, or something similar, tacked to 2×3s without any finish to them, just to separate the rooms for privacy.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 10 күн бұрын
interesting. thx.
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