RIP Brian Jones. Always remembered, never forgotten.

First and foremost to those saying Terry Rawlings is cashing in on Brian Jones’s death nothing can be further from the truth, I know Terry personally both him and Paul Spendel haven’t earnt a bean from this project. The only reason this new addition was even written was due to Paul Spendel’s diligent research and being able to finally acquire (or should I say liberate!) new information from official Police reports, files, witness statements etc all of which are featured in the book. Add to that the fact Tom Keylock after 40 odd years finally admitted on film in an interview he was there at Cotchford the night Jones died. It’s also discovered Tom Keylocks older brother Frankie Keylock was head of Murder squad Scotland Yard, he turns up at Cotchford to essentially ‘deal’ with the incident and overrules Sussex Police who have a hunch something wasn’t quite right with Jones’s death. Frank Thorogood sustained an injured wrist allegedly caused by pulling Jones out the pool and is caught in possession of drugs the same night, he's not arrested but instead taken away in an ambulance (meant for Jones’s body). whilst Jones dead body is left all night by the side of the pool. Joan Fitzsimons (Brian’s cab driver) a key witness who had valuable information is found half dead on a beach 3 weeks later having been savagely attacked with a rock. Janet Lawson (Brian’s nurse and another witness) is pregnant with Tom Keylocks baby, after the incident she goes into hiding living on an RAF base with her brother. When Brian Jones’s body was finally taken to the morgue the autopsy quickly takes takes place, usually for example you would wait to see if any bruising appears before commencing. The coroner in return then strangely receives a couple thousand pounds worth of Dunlop shares. There’s far more information in Terry’s book then I can type and there are just too many dodgy coincidences with this case, not to mention there are still 80 pages worth of documentation stored away for another 40 years at the Home Office, why would that be? If there’s nothing to hide release all the files.....

A lot people and not just on this particular thread believe Brian Jones was murdered, and maybe he was. Maybe he had an asthma attack while swimming. Whatever happened, unfortunately we will never know the whole truth. But if he was murdered, then eventually karma will get whoever they were if it hasn’t already. What I find sad, is that from what I’ve read so far and seen in videos, was that he’d laid off being so heavy in drugs and in drinking and was starting to think about putting together a new band. I always liked The Rolling Stones songs from the 60’s best. I now know that reason is because of Brian and the amazing repertoire of sounds he brought to the songs. It’s sad that he left us to soon. Imagine what he could have done musically if he’d lived. One of my favorite songs by the Stones is Ruby Tuesday. Listening to Brian play the recorder has inspired me to want to learn to play. Thank you Brian for the inspiration and the music. Angels always be with you, Rest In Peace.

Jaz Coleman from Killing Joke has written a few things about Brian,he met him when he was a child & found him fascinating- Colemans family were friendly with Brian as they were from Cheltenham too. He says that in 1984 he talked to Astrid,Bill Wymans girlfriend when Brian died & the subject of his death & the rumours surrounding it came up. She said that this was a completely taboo subject in the Stones camp. He says" there was something weird about her response. It left me in no doubt that people higher up the food chain knew about the circumstances of Brians death well before the case was reopened". Also,an interesting incident from Genesis P Orridge who did the Psychico Tv " Godstar" tribute to Brian. The song got to no 29 in the indie charts & was played on Radio 1. So, their manager calls them up & says that Radio 1 contacted them,The Stones management had been in touch, with Radio 1,saying if they ever played the song again they wouldnt be allowed to play any Stones songs again. Apparently this was because in the video,which has footage of Brian & the Stones in it,when the line" where were your laughing friends that night" it shows Mick & Keith on the screen. P Orridge gave Bill Wyman a copy of the CD at a charity event they were both at. He looks at it,went quiet & just said"thanks". P Orridge said " would you give one to Mick?" ( brilliant,IMO!!) & Bill said" I dont think he'll take it". There are just far too many strange incidents about Brians death for it to be an accident & the way the Stones have spat on his memory( with the exception of Bill Wyman,it must be said) is completely despicable.

If Jones had “lawyered up” after his firing from The Rolling Stones, he likely would have acquired a substantial ownership percentage of the band, possible use of the name “Rolling Stones”, and a substantial percentage of their future revenue stream.

A depressed guy with drug addictions and asthma goes swimming alone…

I urge everyone to read Terry Rawlings book ‘The Final’. If you finish it and still think Brian Jones wasn’t killed you’re mad.

0:23 sec chick says:"Founding member of the ROLLING STONES, Brian Jones"!!!!! now that`s class. Telling the "TRUTH"!!!!!

I've sometimes wondered why Mick and Keith didn't hire detectives to find out what happened to their fallen comrade on July 2/3,1969.

Guy gets kicked out of his own band, is totally set up to win a HUGE lawsuit, and then dies. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that motive.

The story out there is that Brian kept his pool at about 98°F. Without a proper postmortem, we'll never know if he just fell asleep, or something more sinister...

Terr Rawlings is a wise man. I was a child, and I told my mum, "BRIAN WAS MURDERED" AND I CRIED. I knew I felt it I just knew, I didn't know who did it,..But my friends cousin in Britain as I got older said he knew the murderer and when he drank he spoke the truth

I notice that the Stones' music lost some its' magic once Brian left. It was still great but different.

I was there twice a week for months, at Stones’ gigs in Richmond and Twickenham, where everyone knew everyone. Jones conceived of and built the Stones as a blues band. That is to say, a covers band, playing Chicago R&B, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Muddy Waters, Elmore James, Howling Wolf, Jimmy Reed, John Lee Hooker et al. There was no original material. Jones (as the “leader”) held himself apart for preferential treatment: extra payment, different hotel from the others, spokesperson etc. Once Oldham got involved and saw that the band, like the Beatles, only had a future with original material, it soon emerged that Jones couldn’t write songs and that Jagger and Richards could. The power-base shifted from Jones to Jagger and Richards. That would have been extremely tough for Jones, who, whatever exotic instruments he contributed, found himself abruptly dethroned. He treated women badly - absent paternities, infidelity and violence - and when he tried it on Anita Pallenberg, she went with Richards, who’d seen quite enough bruises on her face. Jones, already heavily into booze and drugs to assuage his impotent fury at now being usurped twice, plotted to join or form another supergroup, but hung on in there anyway, increasingly incapable and with a UK drugs conviction that would prevent him (and hence, The Stones) touring the USA. Totally unreliable and either AWOL or too stoned to walk, let alone play, his distance from the band could only deepen dramatically. He lost interest in the band and was working on other projects when he was told he had to be replaced so that the Stones could tour. Whether or not he was getting clean, whether or not he was drowned as the result of a vicious prank, his days of any real involvement in the Stones had been over for some time. He was amazingly charismatic in the early sixties, but the difference between him and Richards was that Richards was a functioning junkie, strong, creative and driven, whereas Jones became a hopeless basket-case. He always looked like a fallen angel and ultimately, that’s what he was. There are no choirboys in the Stones, but as Bertolt Brecht observed “None will improve your lot, if you yourself do not”. Jones spoke German, he should have known that aphorism in its original form.

My favourite Stone member

Why would a dying man (on his deathbed) lie about murdering someone? They have nothing to lose. I couldn't understand this man; did he say the deathbed confession was "too easy?" That's ridiculous.

i clicked on this before i saw streetplonker was involved. 'er 'n 'er yoof - grow old gracefully like miss bakewell [the thinking man's tart]. well, having got that off my chest: i thought it was worthwhile. you usually get "brian is god" or people badmouthing him. this was calm and credible. and anyone who believes brian's dath was accidental - so were the kennedys' on another clip, it is interesting to note that only messrs watts and wyman seemed genuinely saddened by the death.

I guess I believe the story. Good luck with your work. I have your book British Beat 196o-1969 which was an eye opener on all the bands and indispensable reference to my favourite era: the Sixties and the British scene. Keep Rocking and Modding!

His girlfriend believed he was murded and still does

Any way of finding contracts since the band started up? Anything in the contract with Brian's exit or royalty claims that could have made it to court after being fired? Why would the band's bodyguard/driver stay with Brian and what happened after Brian's death? Did Keylock rejoin the stones?

Brian will always be remembered...i love him

The mystery around Brian Jones death is as puzzling as Marilyn Monroe's death earlier in the 1960's. Both deaths still don't make sense even after all the scientific tests and methods to find out the full cause of what could have killed an excellent swimmer and guy in positive outlook for the future after July 3, 1969. Like Brian Jones she was also in happy spirits and looking forward to stuff she had planned in the days and weeks after her death on August 5, 1962.

Keylock was first Richards' incompetent minder ; rather than firing him ,Richards dumped the incompetent sod on Jones;with the inevitable consequences. That plus the fact he marginalised Brian in his own band and on top of that ran away with his old lady , probably caused Richards to have a strange reversed guilt complex that keeps the hypocrit bastard to this day pissing on Jones' grave.....That's not to say Brian had no selfdestruct button,...Keith just gave it that extra little push....

His death is accounted, first, for beginning the infamous 27 Club. Before Hendrix, Joplin, & Morrison.

I came to this clip after watching a 5 part piece on a psychic Tony 'something' (sorry his surname escapes me for the moment )who also pointed toward Brian being murdered. I wonder if the British authorities are gutsy enough to have a proper look or if it will just be ignored and swept under, like so many other things, and not just the British.

EGO, JEALOUSY, AND GREED, HAS DESTROYED MORE GREAT PEOPLE. BANDS, COMPANIES AND RELATIONSHIPS THAN DRUGS COULD EVER POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH.

Worst interviewee ever?

RIP Brian

It is already been stated Frank the man who worked on Brian Jones's house murdered him. Frank infact confessed to murdering Brian Jones when he was on his death bed.

The dude pitching his book.

Keith Richards has more blood on his hands than you could imagine. It will all come out soon. Keep the faith

he was murdered .

What language is the book written in?...

This looks more 1995 than 2013.

I trust the dude just on his hair style alone never mind facts or investigative reporting ... Of which there is none.

What about the handful of witnesses at the scene who, even now, admit of their slow reaction due to drugged and simple party conversation. They too, have guilt.

I came to this clip after watching Rafapal - Mike Jagger.

hey marble mouth , Liam Gallagher wants his look back

Couldn't understand a word these people were saying! Get the marbles out of your mouths...

It's never enough. You think you paid the piper with your music, then he wants blood

He changed his last name to Eno.

Yes. Now where's Winneah the Pooh.

They need sub titles in this video.

Whether he was murdered or he killed him self? He was not someone to dwell on. His ability to procreate, but , not raise what he created? He was not a good human. Live with that fact, while you make him an idol

Damn, three years after Paul. They truly copied everything that the Beatles did.

What’s the song at the beginning

brian was self destructive,a shy quiet person who was a agood instrumentalist but not acomposer at all,and with a heavy addiction to drugs and alcohol while being asthmatic,the quickest way to death,so where is the mystery?from 1967 to 1969 he was 24/7 stoned,zero musical contribution,lawsuit without song writing of his own would earn IF he won the court some money for the name,or they would change their name and he could take the name to his grave,he was heading for there anyway, Keith stole Annita,ok, but she would leave him anyway,and maybe she was to be blamed for the drug addiction of brian and keith too,the other members could be blamed for not forcing him to rehab but in that era it was not like today how they treat the subject,and the record companiesc today keep their stars alive by all means,after all they are their money makers

he said nothing

Nice book and who knows. . but Jones always looked stoned in every single picture I have send of him except maybe in the early 60's on TV. Maybe he was killed, but he sure didn't help himself with all the drugs

I couldn't understand hardly anything that guy was rattling on about.

Do you read these comments Terry?

I cant really tell but how difficult is it for a drunk addict to drawn in a pool ? Does it just have to be a murder? Just saying ...

He sounds like a politician talking but saying nothing

The first Stone, who was killed by SATAN.

Mr Articulate. Not.

I don't know where Brian went after he died, but I do know one thing: he doesn't smell too great

If he was murdered, why? To keep him quiet about something to do with the Stones?

"Oim Jannit Shtreet Poughter..." sorry - I always find her Mockney Lahndahn axe-int so distracting.....

Something stinks at 0:39 and it wasn't me.

This guy is full of it.

Brian was murdered just to meny motives , i do think he would have died at a young age he was on that path of self destruction , the stones should have done more or at the very least not saking him just a very sad story R.I.P B jones

I believe Frank Thorogood’s deathbed confession that he did indeed kill Brian Jones but it was not intentional; construction worker Frank, who was living at Brian’s house (hey, it was the ‘60s), harbored resentment and dislike towards overindulged, spoiled, (yet very talented ) Rock star Brian and acted on it with harassment & roughhousing gone too far in the pool that night; Brian’s unhealthy physical state probably contributed to his death

he was a junky thinking he was thinking he was the image of the group But was so space out Hekilled his talent and himself Drugs has no piity and crossed the the line So bad for him But he was a genious bu8t a jumky

Is that Noel or Liam Gallagher?

Keith Richards Had Brian Killed! Keith Richards hated Brian jones! Because of jealousy! Brian Jones is the Rolling Stones its his band. Keith has never said a good word about Brian since his death and there's no mention of Brian in Keith's autobiography! Keith Richards and mick jagger kicked Brian out the band then he's dead 3 weeks later, That seems a bit odd! Dont you think? If Brian lived he could have sued Mick and Keith and got the rights to The Rolling Stones name, As it's Brian's band he's The founder and creater so he would have definitely had a great case in court, Which is the reason I think Keith had him killed.

Nothing new, just a commercial promotion.

Brian was a good swimmer but suffered from asthma so who knows? What we do know is he was so effed on on hard drugs that he could hardly function anymore as a band-mate or a person. The band got BETTER with Mick Taylor anyway so that point is moot. Whatever happened, he WAS a great musician and I hope he rests in peace....

All B.S. it was death by misadventure.

Rough play dunking under the water by frank the worker accidentally killed him

I think aliens killed him.

He was murdered.

the moon landing killed Brian

He says - so we are supposed to believe??? BOLLOCKS!!

Frank thourogood

Kieths countenance . .before and after Brians death ccccccccc h a n g e s . . . . .ever see that movie with Gene Hackman . . where he says ; " . . / The thing a bout murder is , once you commit murder , you cant get away from it ,. . . . " keith changes from dinky boyscout looking to wanted poster looking . . . virtually over night . .hahahahahahahaa

i knew Tommy Keylock, and i knew him for many years, yes he was a hard man and told it how it was, but he was not a killer.

The fact we know is, he was an insufferable prick, he hurt people inside. That in no way justifies murder, but is there anyone in your life you might not miss too much...God bless Brian Jones.

The MI5 had him murdered?

Pure BS!

Mick Jagger and Keith Richards killed Jones as a sacrifice, so their career would still flourish in the 1970s, Jones died at 2nd of July at the age of 27 at 9:30 PM (9x3 = 27), so ritualistic killing. They drowned him in fresh water, not pool.

The final truth is not known. Most likely foul play involved.

Total BS.

Well nobody mentions Brian's jealousy yes he started the band and considered himself the leader but sources a lot more reliable than this guy say,Brian was jealous of Micks popularity and he couldn't really be the leader with Mick Jagger in the band,he was always stoned even though he was young almost every picture shows Brian stoned and bags under his eyes.

What a bunch of hog wash. This Terry Rowling is a cash cow. Selling books. I don't think this was murder just a sad accident. Please reflect on his brilliant career and talent. Have some respect for the deceased. God bless Mr. Jones ❤

Most of this book was found to be blabber.

Terry Rawlings is a fool.

MrCoalesent. they needed 2 have listened to BRIAN. u start playing music for just collecting some dough, u get ALTAMONT!!! & your soul is gone 2 eternal HELL!!! FOREVER!!! u follow the joness` like jagger did & well u saw what happened. at least jones died look`in pretty at 27. u seen jagger lately? not good. look. just be a club band & knowing jones?? he`d have found a way for them 2 to make some money instead of the stones becoming the darker side of the BEATLES who were by the way a club band also.

i did it...

He was a horrible bloke.

If Brian was murdered it wasn't over jealousy of stardom in the band but more likely just over some drug deal. The guy was talented yes but a bit overrated. How many songs or riffs did he come up with? The Stones would have still made it without Brian but Brian would not have made it alone. He didn't have the drive that Mick and Keith had. Even if he had not done drugs he would have remained more of the 2nd guitarist like Mick and Ronnie. He lost spotlight of the band cause Mick and Keith were coming up with better material. It would be like putting Ringo ahead of Lennon or McCartney in the beatles.

Not the founding member