Out of the (Rhythmic) Box

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Brian Krock

Brian Krock

3 жыл бұрын

Abstracted pulse = anti-quantization, or something.
The underscoring throughout this video is my song, "Steep Ravine," from my 2018 album "Big Heart Machine": www.bigheartmachine.bandcamp.com (Today is Bandcamp Friday, if you're feeling generous. They're waiving their fees, so all proceeds go directly to me.)
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Sources:
Gould, Elaine. “Behind Bars.”
Randel, Don Michael, ed. “Harvard Dictionary of Music.”
Prausnitz, Frederik. “Score and Podium.”
Price, Simon. www.soundonsound.com/techniqu...
Vivona, Christine M. “A survery of the harp writing of Benjamin Britten.” (1989)
Also, ‪@12tone‬ has a great video that clearly explains many of these concepts. • Too Many Tempos!
#MetricModulation #Rubato

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@brodeyfox8318
@brodeyfox8318 3 жыл бұрын
mmmm fries... I feel your pain on the accelerando pronunciation. Coming into jazz from a contemporary classical background I had to change a lot of terminology, tempos instead of tempi, "with wood of bow" instead of col legno, etc.
@KedKi
@KedKi 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to the midi was simultaneously incredibly confusing and super enlightening, lol. Mindblowing stuff, thanks for sharing
@OrangeDrinkMusic
@OrangeDrinkMusic 4 күн бұрын
your composition is lit l i t l i t
@stever1514
@stever1514 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I liked your examples for metric modulations. It was especially intriguing to see the tuplet pivots that then go to a non tuplet measure length. I've never considered that idea before. I'd love to see a whole video on that concept. I think it's going to make a big impact on my music. btw there are a lot of slow long tempo changes in some balinese gamelan pieces.
@FranLegon
@FranLegon 3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely stealing this idea. Thanks Brian! Great video, as always.
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
Steal away! Lemme know how it goes.
@arijin
@arijin 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you’ll be interested in this, but I had a similar slow-down-speed-up idea quite a while back, and I created an electronic track that does that, called Geometric Rhythm. No live musicians at all though, and I wouldn’t have any idea how to notate it for live musicians. Anyway, I accomplished my tempo experiment using pitch-and-tempo bends (in Macromedia Soundedit 16! I’m old). I created a track that was just a bunch of minor chord arpeggios, and then I used a pitch bend on each measure that slowed it down and lowered the pitch, and then I used another pitch/tempo bend on the whole track to speed it way up and increase the pitch significantly. I’m proud of it, even if it is pretty simplistic (I’m no great composer. I play around and I publish what I make for free for anyone who wants it. I’ve been learning a lot from KZfaq to improve my actual musicianship, but I haven’t applied what I’ve learned much yet. Perhaps I will sometime. I actually got really distracted from some stuff I was working on several years ago and never picked it back up. It’s sad.) Anyway, if you are interested in hearing what I’ve just described, here’s a link: antmanmusic.bandcamp.com/track/geometric-rhythm Enjoy, and thank you for the great videos. I dig your style.
@pabloinamible5315
@pabloinamible5315 3 жыл бұрын
This videos get so little views for how inspiring and well made they are.
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
Pablo Inamible thanks for saying that. Hoping it’ll grow if I keep at it :)
@machinate
@machinate 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKrock I rarely watch a video, yet alone a whole series of videos, and think: "This... this seems important." I do with your stuff, Brian.
@beulg2464
@beulg2464 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKrock I'm sure it will Brian ! Just arrived here from Adam Neely's last video. love all of this
@RonjaMaltzahn
@RonjaMaltzahn 3 жыл бұрын
I made it till the end! What a lovely idea! Might be a bit much for pop, but you definitely inspired me to try somethings out with tempo variations, and I'm grateful for things that inspire :) So thanks Brian! :D
@jhostinmisaelguzman3422
@jhostinmisaelguzman3422 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! That tecnique reminds me "pacific 321 - A. Honegger". It's a kind of exercise of make the music faster when the tempo is going down
@parsa.mostaghim
@parsa.mostaghim 3 жыл бұрын
this idea has a very unique musical expression that I enjoyed alot🐞 thanks for making it
@indigokid83
@indigokid83 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!Great video once again...Accelerando by Vijay Iyer was the first thing that came to my mind too - and also the polyrhythmic and polytemporal music of Greek genius pianist Sami Amiris (a hidden gem in the world of rhythm...).
@loveistheonlything3626
@loveistheonlything3626 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, I love your videos, keep them coming! Love from Austria.
@TheMoonmoonmoon
@TheMoonmoonmoon 3 жыл бұрын
A very similiar idea is achieved in Autechre's track 'Fold4, Wrap5' (Warp records, 1998) where the tempo constantly decreases from bar 1 til the end, and the subdivisions get busier as the tempo decreases. It's very cool. Much simpler to realise with electronic music obvs, I've not seen it attempted with live musicians before, well done! Also check out Canon X by Nancarrow (for player piano), in which one part accelerates while the other decelerates, througout... it's bonkers!
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
I came for the Autechre, stayed for the Nancarrow. Thanks for both suggestions! It'd be a fun idea to try to analyze an Autechre track someday...
@TheMoonmoonmoon
@TheMoonmoonmoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKrock transcribe one for big band :-)
@Jay-wq1co
@Jay-wq1co 3 жыл бұрын
In the same way gamakas modulate pitch in a circular way, there are other "shapes" by witch the pitch is altered. I'd love to notate the exact "shape" of a note bend, in guitar for example there's no way (that I know of) to notate a "gamaka" style of bend vs any other short bend.
@MattLeGroulx
@MattLeGroulx 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel Brian, always looking forward to new videos.
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
Yo- for some reason the link isn’t showing up publicly, but you should repost it if you can. That track was WILD! I loved it (about to share it on my instagram). So... your bandmates learned that by ear? Also, I love that you tagged “early music.”
@MattLeGroulx
@MattLeGroulx 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKrock Ha! Yeah, I had second thought "I shouldn't bother Brian with this shit..." It's just always bugged me that it feels so naturally to me but whenever I try to notate it my brain goes offline. They learned it by ear. We had to use text as a mnemonic device so we wrote phrases for each segment of rhythm to help them remember. There's actually a live clip of us playing it. Here's the link I had sent. I don't think I follow your Instagram, I'll go do that now: phonautographrecords.bandcamp.com/track/chocolate
@user-ox5nh8kx1l
@user-ox5nh8kx1l 3 жыл бұрын
Here for the rubato! ❤ Also, coming from a classical music background, the accelerando pronunciation with the 'ch' sound doesn't sound douche-y to me, but calling it ak-sell-er-an-do, kinda does. It's probably just all up to what we're used to. 👍 P.s. Really appreciate you not telling me to smash my extensive tech. 😁
@Lukz243
@Lukz243 3 жыл бұрын
That MIDI gave me some Zelda dungeon vibes, with a little post modernist flair. Quite unique, I should say
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
Luke Mileto Link’s Awakening was my first love
@looch8319
@looch8319 3 жыл бұрын
I recently wrote a piece where with each successive section has a slower tempo, but a shorter durational unit. It also features a section where everyone is in a different tempo/meter! Great video yet again.
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
Looch share a link if you’ve got one- I’d love to hear that.
@looch8319
@looch8319 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKrock there's some other things at work here, but when i saw the video i was immediately reminded of trying to write this
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
Looch yo, that piece was fascinating to listen to. Have live musicians ever given it a try? I loved the knotty, morphing texture in the marimba, and I really dig the stark change in pacing about halfway through.
@looch8319
@looch8319 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKrock no live performances just yet, but I would Like to and thanks a lot!
@ili626
@ili626 3 жыл бұрын
Ligeti inspired my use of this in my music ..posting this before halfway thru vid so maybe Ligeti is mentioned later.. or not
@macschomo
@macschomo 3 жыл бұрын
There is so many to explore. As a drummer I work to play the HiHat between Shuffle and 8th notes and it works. I don't know how to measure or notate it. But I like the feel of the groove. It's round and feels perfekt. Your work is inspiring!
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds so cool. The space between beats "1" and "2" is infinite, and you can place subdivisions anywhere you like!
@aadityakiran_s
@aadityakiran_s 3 жыл бұрын
Intro is pretty good. Production quality is pretty good and the content is pretty nice also. You will get more subscribers soon I guess.
@rileymckinley
@rileymckinley 3 жыл бұрын
Who are some of the mystical elastic drummers?
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
Riley McKinley pictured, in order, are Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, John Bonham, Marcus Gilmore, Tyshawn Sorey. I’d also include Kenny Clark, Dannie Richmond, Dan Weiss, Baby Dodds, Art Blakey, Bernard Purdie, Questlove, and then beat-makers like Flying Lotus, Venetian Snares. Also, come to think of it, Brazilian master Rogerio Boccato! Could go on and on. “Placement” of the beat was so hard for me to understand at first (“on top,” “behind,” purposefully sloppy, metronomic, fluxuating, et al).
@nullinullinullifi
@nullinullinullifi 3 жыл бұрын
I had this idea of combining rational and irrational time signatures together, and was wondering how it can be notated and composed in a notation software, (All of the time signatures in the phrase goes 3/4, 3/4, 3/8 + 2/12, 2/4, 3/4, 3/4, 3/8 + 2/12, and 2/4,) I remember seeing additive time signatures being used in classical music so I thought it might be interesting to take it to the extreme.
@jwhipp
@jwhipp 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, check out a song by Autechre called "Fold 4, Wrap 5". Was reminded of it when I saw the thumbnail of this video re: slowing down and speeding up at the same time.
@quietmind42
@quietmind42 2 жыл бұрын
More important than the rhythms, how do you notate coffee stains on your score in Finale?
@umhaitiano2364
@umhaitiano2364 3 жыл бұрын
italians dont pronounce the R like in the english language, so you`re actually wrong on both pronunciations of accelerando
@francissadleir9805
@francissadleir9805 3 жыл бұрын
hey brian how do you make unusual metric modulations in sibelius? I want a quarter note = half note + an eighth note. Thanks so much!
@aristoth
@aristoth 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you, I've found writing tuplet metric modulations (even non-functional ones) is a total pain. There GOTTA BE A BETTER WAAAYYyy
@BrianKrock
@BrianKrock 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll try to make a quick follow-up vid to answer that! That’s such a cool idea... but it’s complicated, I gotta ponder it.
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