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There's ten feet of water below decks, all 3 masts have fallen off, we're on fire, being strafed by Stukas, the Red October is torpedoing us and a Kraken is eating the stern. The ship is FINE!

"A ship is safer at sea than in port" Narrator: "they were in fact, not safer at Sea"

Sail a rotten, leaky wooden ship, with an inexperienced crew and out of service comms, into a hurricane. Take in water, lose power, sleep in soaked beds. Crew gets exhausted and hurt. Pumps fail. Water gets waist high in engine room. Send emails downlaying the situation. Refuse to abandon ship. That captain was in such denial that he completely ignored the danger.

24:32 Sailors 200 years ago lived in fear of the real possibility of a hurricane appearing over the horizon with zero warning. I can only imagine at how gobsmacked they’d be to see the decisions made by someone with access to a fucking live satellite feed!

39:55 If "the boat is doing great," but you "can't de-water" when you're _actively taking on water inside of a hurricane..._ the ship is not doing great. It is the opposite of doing great.

"We're going to stay here until it's not safe to be here," is a wild safety plan.

Talk about irony. The first Bounty's crew should never have mutinied, and would almost certainly have been ultimately better off if they had stayed with the vessel and completed their voyage. The second Bounty's crew should definitely have walked away from the proposed voyage when given the opportunity before departure, and would have been ultimately better off for doing so, and indeed saved the skipper's own life.

Well, all things considered, I think Captain Third Rank Yevgeni Bonovia, executive officer of the Soviet submarine _V.K. Konovalov,_ said it best: "You arrogant ass, you've killed us."

This situation was so avoidable at so many points. The loss of the Bounty might be the most avoidable tragedy that's been covered on this channel, and that's saying something.

The Captain's irresponsibility, carelessness, and incompetence were off the charts!

Bounty and El Faro remind me so much of each other. Aging ship, violent storm, irresponsible captain. Both ships had all three.

Can't believe the Capt made a succession of too late decisions. Also can't believe that he had time to throw shade at the on shore Association member for getting the wrong fuel filters.

Why would ANYONE deliberately sail a 60 year old replica wooden ship into a hurricane?

Massive respect to USCG rescue teams, especially the swimmers. Best of the best.

I am amazed such a cowboy of a sea captain managed to live that long, and his actions only cost the life of one other

39:49 “the filters you got were the wrong filters” the captain takes the time to throw shade at the guy on shore like that’s the root of the problem.

It's shocking that the captain, was so arrogant he deliberately sailed his aging, problem ridden replica vessel directly for a hurricane, he could have killed everyone on that voyage. Even as the Bounty was in clear trouble, wouldn't believe his ship wouldn't sink, but in the end, he paid the ultimate price for his hubris, and took one deckhand with him. It has been almost a whole year since the implosion of the Titan submersible, this reminds me of that, two captains who had too much confidence, that they thought they were smarter than the sea ... they were not.

Pride and ego sink more ships than any storm.

This video is the representation, "Oh, it gets worse." I don't think incompetent is a strong enough word to describe the actions of the captain. The amount of hubris displayed in this incident is off the charts.

I attended a Maritime Academy, sailed ships for 18 years. Been in many storms, hurricanes, etc. This was incompetence by the Captain. Note how improper emergency preparedness and maintenance will compound a bad situation.

He’s more than a legend! He’s our friend, Mike Brady, from Oceanliner Designs. I love this collaboration so much!!!!!!! I hope there are more in the future. I loved learning about the technical side of these old ships. In elementary school I spent a night on the CA Thayer. It was really memorable.

" Keep in mind, the Coast Guard's findings and lessons learned tend to be formatted quite differently... and the Coast Guard can be a bit less, diplomatic, in their wording." The first five personnel points end with " This constitutes negligence." 'Less diplomatic'... no kidding Sam.

The skipper is still trying to send the last email as we're watching.

Hearing the captain's initial plan to sail east of the storm I thought ok, sounds reasonable enough. Must've still gotten too close and swept up in the storm. Unfortunate but the decision isn't *completely* divorced from reality. Listening to the emails about him thinking of trying to sail along the west side: *whispering* don't... NHC downgrading Sandy to tropical storm: DON'T Bounty captain starts sailing west: NO NO NO STOP WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!? I could understand if the accident had happened when they were trying to avoid it sailing east but trying to skirt around it to the west is just reckless negligence in the highest order. It's infuriating that he got somebody else killed for his carelessness, should've only been him paying for his recklessness.

Six hundred miles east of Norfolk, just after Sandy has passed, spent three days transferring 30,000 tons of ammo via helicopter. 40’ swells with a 240 second period I’ve never seen anything like it. Standing on the deck I could see the other ships flight deck and then minutes later they would be above us. I’ll never forget it.

I remember boarding this ship in Halifax just before she was lost at sea. Very sad.

One crew member said before leaving, "It's only a superstorm." I read that somewhere and thought, "You idiot. That doesn't mean it's less than a hurricane, it means that Sandy is so big that 'hurricane' doesn't accurately describe it."

Only one piece of tall ship sailing lore has survived the two generations since my ancestors sailed, captained and built tall ships; that cyclones are to be feared and respected at all times. I’m so fucking angry, that someone in a time when we can see storms coming before they appear over the horizon would choose to voluntarily place his ship and crew in the path of one is so beyond the pale.

Gotta admit, the candor of the Coast Guard's report as opposed to the neutrality of the NTSB was refreshing. Sometimes you just need an investigation report that makes you go "get their ass".

i just wanted to say how much i appreciate y’all for providing actual closed captions instead of the youtube auto generated shit. i have an auditory processing disorder and having captions has made it so much easier for me to understand what you guys are saying. thanks again :^)

Admittedly, my entire knowledge of sailing comes from channels like Mike Brady's and yours, but I can't fathom why he wouldn't sail northeast to move tangentially away from the range of predicted paths. Obviously, letting the ship sink in port while the crew went inland to shelter was the right call, but even valuing the ship over human life doesn't add up.

Is truly very sad that a great crew member, Claudene Christian, was lost.

yet another disaster with one man at the center of it all, having spectacular delusions of how in control he is.

Oceanliner Designs, Waterline Stories, Oilfield History and even Scary Interesting. The number of capable folks covering maritime disasters these days is just amazing!

Captain was behind the power curve at every turn. Also, I don't understand why he decided to intentionally mischaracterize the condition of the vessel in every email and every communication?? Erring on the side of an incredibly and shockingly optimistic interpretation of every negative circumstance. It's baffling to me.

I would never have though that KZfaq, as it was ten years ago, would eventually produce documentaries that are superior to those of PBS in it's heyday. This is outstanding work. Thank you for the video.

I remember hearing about this whole incident when I first got into the tall ship industry in 2014. I know people who had done restoration and shipwright work on her. It's just a fact of life that the historical organizations which own and maintain these ships are desperately underfunded and do the best they can under the circumstances; man of these ships exist in a delicate condition with the owners juggling what issues to fix and what to let go on extremely shoe-string budgets. That being so, and knowing that the ship was in a somewhat delicate condition, the decision to take her south into the landward side of the hurricane baffles me. Hurricane Sandy was a storm with a pretty predictable track. There was little evidence that she'd turn out to sea and all forecasts suggested she'd turn to make landfall on the mid-Atlantic coast. It's true that often the safest place to be in a storm is offshore, Bounty could have very easily kept heading east and avoided the storm entirely. Furthermore, knowing about the rough weather and the state of the ship, I would have taken the couple of days of fair weather to double and triple check the pumps, generators, etc. and made sure everything was working. I would have run safety drills. I don't hold the crew responsible. They preformed heroically in trying to save their ship. I feel that the responsibility lies solely at the captain's feet. Many of the crew were inexperienced and looking towards their experienced and knowledgeable captain to handle the situation properly. The fact of the matter is that he had both the experience and the information to keep his ship and crew safe. It's such a shame that two people died and that a fine ship, there are so few sailing ships still kicking about, was lost on account of extreme negligence on the part of someone who should have known better.

This Captain preceded Stockton Rush in the Hall of Fame of Stupidity. A total disregard for safety.

I'm stunned at the level of arrogance bordering on madness displayed by this "captain"! To deliberately sail any vessel into the path of a hurricane is complete madness. Hindsight is 20/20, but there was no compelling need to undertake this voyage at this time; in a vessel with so many obvious and glaring defects.

"A ship is safer at sea..." I mean, sure, when you have a ship in good repair, a highly experienced professional crew, and a captain not out-of-his-freakin-mind enough to sail directly into the path of one of the most powerful storms in decades, sure. This whole story is absolutely infuriating.

"The boat is doing great. We can't dewater." I think the captains idea of doing great is different to other peoples.

I sailed on this Ship in 1999 for Sail Training being a USS Constitution Navy Sailor, we sailed from Rhode Island to New York, I remember feeling unsafe when I was on watch and checked the bilge and noticed alot of water, I reported it to the skipper and he asked me if the duck was floating...they had a duck on a string hanging over the bilge, I said no, he said we are fine then, if the duck is floating then we have to increase the sumps. Oh boy was I freaked! I know it's normal for all wooden vessels to have water but it seemed like alot. Never the less I had a blast on Board that Ship and was saddened to see this on the new back then. It's a weird feeling to know a ship I sailed on is at the bottom of the Ocean. RIP to the captain and the deck hand that went down with her. You have the watch now Bounty, take care of them.

if a captain thinks their ship is unsinkable, that ship is definitely going straight to davy jones’s locker.

I spent 20 years at sea, half of that as master Two points. 1. Confidence does not equal competence. Important to know the difference. I cannot imagine putting to sea in hurricane warning conditions reliant on pumps. Mechanical systems all break and break faster when getting bounced around. Murphy first law. 2. You do a really good job.

There is a suggestion in the sailing community that BOUNTY was scheduled to appear at St. Petersburg for a fee. It is well known that it operating such vessels is VERY expensive, and forfeiting an appearance fee can have a great impact on operations. Like in so many circumstances, follow the money.

So excited to see my favorite KZfaqrs collaborate with each other

The whole time I was thinking that the captain did this on purpose, I’m glad the USCG put that in the report. Do you think he wanted to go down in a blaze of glory or maybe he thought he would captain a new ship from the insurance? Or was he really arrogant enough to believe that he could sail through a hurricane in a pos boat with a bunch of greenhorns?

As someone who lives a block from the beach in Atlantic City, NJ I can not even imagine what it was like for those on board.. I live in a 5 story concrete building next to the Tropicana and it felt like the building was going to sink. The absolute hubress of the captain and non-reciprocation of respect for the crew and their lives is astounding

In an emergency take control of the situation, before the situation takes control of you

I just came over here from Ocean Liner Designs. I love both of these channels, I’m super pumped that you guys did this, glad to be here 👍

On an aviation note, it absolutely blows my mind all the different missions the C-130 is capable of. It goes into conditions you wouldn't dare put any other plane into!

I know nothing of tall ships, but I know a fair bit about timber: one look at those photos of the decaying hull and, like the doomed vessel, my heart sank. In such a parlous state of disrepair, it's a wonder she held together as long as she did in those savage conditions, and nothing short of a miracle that most of her crew survived. So sad that the brave deckhand didn't make it, though there's some solace in knowing that she was returned to her loved ones. As for the Captain, he is where he belongs.

Although the Coast Guard service has well-known deficiencies in management, the front-line members who directly work to protect people on the water are absolutely amazing.

AHHH BI AND OUR FRIEND MIKE BRADY FROM OCEANLINER DESIGNS.... MY SKIN IS CLEAR MY CROPS ARE WATERED MY AUTISM IS FED

I remember when Sandy came through. I live in Pittsburgh, so obviously we didnt have it anywhere near as bad as parts of NJ, NY, and parts of the extreme NE, but I remember that it was very stormy and windy. I lost a row of four pine trees that were in my backyard. It ripped the grass and dirt up all the way around them all to a mound of roughly 35' by 20'. I also remember hearing of the sinking of the Bounty on the news.

15:14 I spent many years as a USCG Ships Engineer. If I had ever heard a Captain, especially one of this type of vessel talk about "Chasing Hurricanes" I wouldn't be anywhere near that vessel, not for ANY amount of money. This idiot was literally a shipwreck waiting to happen.

Seeing you do your first true sailing video is *awesome*. As a rec sailor who's racing across the pacific next month, I find this type of stuff absolutely fascinating. I'd love if you'd consider the Farallones tragedy a few years ago. There's a bunch of stuff you could cover, including wave height calculations, negligence, and a tragic backstory. It forever transformed ocean sailing in the SF Bay Area

I didn’t think I could be more excited when I saw a new BI video drop, but then I found out it’s a collab with our friend Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs!

It’s ironic that of the 2 people who died, the captain and Claudene Christian, she was a descendant of Fletcher Christian from the real story of the Mutiny on the Bounty.

"I hear the voice of my ancestors on the wind. What are they trying to say?" "We would not go out into a storm like this! That's why we survived and you can still buy one of our houses downtown!"

I remember as a kid, seeing the famous picture of the swamped Bounty on the news. As a kid who was obsessed ships it saddened me. I must say, the sheer, negligence and denial of the captain in this situation is astounding to me. However that is almost always the case in tragedies that are so avoidable. I thank you Sam for covering this tragedy and your collaboration with Mike was a treat for all of us fans. You both did an amazing job.

Ships with this name just can't catch a break...

I was this many years old when i finally learn I've been saying "floundering" when it should be "FOUndering" 🤦🏻‍♀️

Amazing that only two died. Captain, based on how the crew described him near the end, was probably too injured to do anything when he went into the water and the deckhand was just bad luck. I hope the 2nd Mate who told her to go doesn't blame himself. He was stuck and couldn't free himself from the ship. I'd bet he thinks had he not been stuck or told her to wait he could have kept her alive. The ship should never have sailed.

Mistake after mistake after mistake. Super sad story. I'm definitely going to take the lessons from this story and never let anyone lead me to death. RIP to the women who lost her life. Poor lady.🙏

RIP Claudene. Fair skies and following seas. And thanks BiM for another detailed and impressive video.

It's like the captain of HMS Bounty and El Faro were in a competition to see who had the most hubris, who could make the worst decisions, and who's ship was least seaworthy...a literal race to the bottom of the sea.

The parallels between the loss of the Bounty and the loss of El Faro are striking.

I grew up in St. Pete in the 70’s and we would go at least once a year to the Bounty. It is one of my favorite childhood memories. I loved going and I would imagine myself living on it. So sad that it is now associated with tragedy.

As an Australian I'm keen to hear your compilation of information on this one. Cheers for all you do.

Heartbreaking. Reminds me when my ocean survival instructor said, this is how midshipman die, he wasn’t joking.

I remember hearing about this right when it was happening. My dad said the guy was nuts. I just couldn't believe he took a poorly kept up sailing vessel out under those conditions and with people that had so little experience with sailing in general. It was a suicide mission at best. 😢

The historical images of Bounty at Tampa Bay with both bridges, at different times, are very fitting considering the other stories on the channel. Fantastic work again. Thank you for putting these together!

The team up we needed, can't wait.

I got to go aboard Bounty at a tall ship gathering...i was saddened by her loss during Sandy. Thank you Sam for another well done narrative

you saying that your videos are off limits to sponsors just earned you another subscriber, i love what you are doing so much keep up the amazing work and never forget the victims who were lost in these awful disasters

Crazy karma and mirroring between these two Bounties; it’s so fascinating! Congrats on a fabulous collaboration!

I remember seeing the Bounty Replica when I was a kid and it visited San Juan Harbour in Puerto Rico, it was a nice sight and the crew were really kind to me and my stepfather thou he did most of the talking for me since i was too nervous to talk in english to some strangers, its a shame i later found out what happened to the ship and that some of the crew passed away.

It's quite bizzare to see a sailing ship disaster with modern rescue services involved. Even though I'm not into sailing ships at all, this is a very interesting and unique case and it's great that you brought it to light as thoroughly as you usually do with your videos. Thank you, Sam!

"Ship is fine" providing a lot of buoyancy to those emails.

If this ‘Bounty’ being referred to is the HMS Bounty, then we’re in for a real treat.

Few things make me happier than a new Brick Immortar upload. ❤

Wow the fact that the coast guard was able to save so many lives is incredible.

What a great example of "pride goes before a fall". The captain's 30 year successful career created a prideful attitude that, ironiclly enough, kept him from being a good captain on this voyage.

WTF would you ever think it’s a good idea to sail into a freaking hurricane? Especially with a ship like this.

Staying put would have saved lives and the ship. That is beyond question and the sad thing is all the information was available to make the obvious decision as other ships captains did exactly that .

This channel and your videos have inspired me to pursue maritime safety as a profession after years of indecision on my end. Proud to call myself an immortar supporter on Patreon and looking forward to seeing the future of this channel.

This sounds a lot like the space shuttle Challenger accident, in that they had gotten away with risk before, which led them to believe they could continue doing so. Kudos to the Coast Guard were well-deserved, as they were forced to put themselves in danger to rescue the Bounty's crew, which should never have needed rescuing in the first place. One account I read believed that the captain was trying to get to St. Petersburg by a specific date for possible sale or a festival, I forget.

The unnecessary loss caused by one man’s hubris.

Two of my favorite voices on the interwebs!!!!!

She was here in Bergen Norway back in 2011.

Does the ship float? No Do the pumps work? No Has the engineer ever even worked on a ship? No Is the hurricane coming? Yes Perfect. Send it.

Dude, that was the smoothest transition from content subject matter to promoting Patreon membership that I've ever heard.

I don’t know if I’ve missed it before, but seeing BI working together with Mike and the team Oceanliner Designs makes me so happy! My two favourite boat bois!!

"A ship is safer at sea than in port" Yeah, the Titanic was famously already in New York when that iceberg came in out of nowhere and slammed into the ship, can't believe Cameron left that detail out of the movie

The similarities between this episode and the El Faro are striking... Both include Captains who either underestimate the storm they are sailing into and overestimate their ship's capabilities. They also feature Captains who are operating on out-of-date information and who trust their own opinions over-and-above reality and over the opinions of others.

The captain had a delusional romantic idea of struggling at sea and systematically put his crew in incressingly more dangerous conditions.

This was beyond reckless, this was flat out suicide. With the possible exception of the newer deckhands, everybody on board *must* have known this was going to end poorly. The ship was barely seaworthy and any storm probably would have sunk them but it being Hurricane Sandy certainly didn't help. It's a testament to just how good The US Coast Guard is that only 2 members of the crew lost their lives, and in the case of the captain I believe that death was intentional, at least subconsciously. Perhaps the captain was worried the Bounty would get destroyed by Sandy in port and so made the choice to fabricate his own last stand rather than let her to go down on her own. A tragic decision.

Captain - "we chase hurricanes" The Sea Gods - "and we took that personally"