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Bridge Skip in-depth tutorial - NieR: Automata Speedruns (read description)

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Kanaris

Kanaris

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@mar2ck_
@mar2ck_ 4 жыл бұрын
I dont even speedrun i just learnt how to do this so i could find out where the other end of the bridge is lmao. Got it down in under 30 minutes thanks for the guide
@eleanorselmser948
@eleanorselmser948 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, within half an hour I was able to get the high and long jump a few times with the heavy/light swords!
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! It's a really tricky skip the first time.
@Drewdignity
@Drewdignity Жыл бұрын
I just start learning speedruning this game. Thank you so much for the tutorial man. Also your voice is so soothing lol
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad I could help. Make sure to check out the nier speedrun discord if you're not already in there. Plenty of resources and helpers: discord.nierspeedrun.com
@mkexotics1
@mkexotics1 5 жыл бұрын
You said SO much. Now I’m more confused than ever.
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 5 жыл бұрын
I plan on making more streamlined tutorials *some* time. I just don't know when that'll be!
@GuitarGamerRPG
@GuitarGamerRPG Жыл бұрын
what to do to skip the next part? i was able to skip the bridge but not to clip in the wall and skip to the exit
@JMO0621
@JMO0621 5 жыл бұрын
Great video but I cannot get the timing down at all. Tried bare fist and with heavy weapon.
@Pdo13
@Pdo13 3 жыл бұрын
Cool trick, but i find it easier to do without having the second light attack, so it would be: delayed lift, swap, light, heavy, jump, heavy, Plunge. the second light is kinda hard to land.
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 3 жыл бұрын
That makes it super tight timing on everything unless you modify your sets for BF lift which loses time: Set 1 Light: Virtuous Contract Heavy: Bare Fists Set 2 Light: Virtuous Treaty Heavy: Virtuous Contract We start the run with set 1 having Contract and Treaty. Treaty has basically identical lift height to Contract
@nicolassalustio8155
@nicolassalustio8155 Жыл бұрын
im not able to keep doing light and heave after the second jump, there is no way to do that combo after the second jump, how do yo do that? .-.
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch Жыл бұрын
You probably need to press light sooner
@joshuaradloff1070
@joshuaradloff1070 2 жыл бұрын
Okay so let me get this straight... its lift, light, heavy, jump, light heavy jump ? That all? Well then why cant I ever get high enough?
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 2 жыл бұрын
You have three jumps in there because the lift involves a jump input. The final jump you've written should be a plunge which is dash + heavy. Make sure during the plunge you're holding forward on left stick or you'll dash backward before the plunge happens
@joshuaradloff1070
@joshuaradloff1070 2 жыл бұрын
@@KanarisTwitch Okay so I've started adding in the plunge but I'm still not able to get high enough... I'm able to get really really close tho, I feel like I'm off by a centimeter each time, 2B's sword is able to hit the top of the bridge but she's not high enough to land on it... and I'm using barefists.... delayed lift, switch to weapon set 2, light, heavy, jump, light, heavy, plunge but I cant get high enough and I'm on the lowest resolution possible with everything off or set to low
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 2 жыл бұрын
​@@joshuaradloff1070 If you're not making it with a barefist lift then you either have very low framerate which is eating all your height gain, or you're missing an input/misunderstanding what one of the inputs is. The raw inputs you should do are: - WS (weapon set) 1 - Hold left stick toward the bridge the whole time (not necessary the WHOLE time but try it, just to make sure this isn't the reason you're not getting onto the bridge) - jump + heavy attack (helps to have a little delay between these two inputs, but typically not necessary with barefist. can either tap or hold it, doesn't matter.) - WS2 - light attack (you can mash this after inputting the previous parts, it buffers the input) - heavy attack (you can mash this) - jump (time this input properly. can either tap or hold it, doesn't matter.) - light attack (at the peak of the jump) - heavy attack (you can mash this) - dash + heavy attack (at the peak of the mid-air heavy attack. try delaying the heavy part a little bit after the dash part, to make sure you're right up against the bridge and plunging onto it. if you delay the heavy part, make sure you're holding the dash button down or else it will do a dash and heavy separately, rather than a plunge) If you're not holding toward the bridge on your left stick, or you don't have that little delay between the dash and heavy of the last step, you might get the necessary height but be too far away from the top of the bridge, meaning the plunge takes you back down instead of on top of it. I can't give you any further advice without seeing footage of your attempts, but try following the above, and watch some of the barefist attempts in my video for the correct timing between inputs. 8:50
@strooy
@strooy 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anyone mention, but you can dash then hold dash + shoot + jump to do an extra dash.
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 4 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about a pod launch? If you are, that's simply jump + shoot; the dash isn't necessary. However, launching is usually slow so we only use it when necessary for distance / height conservation. In this case it can be an easier alternative for some players but I'm hesitant to recommend it due to its tendency to drop the input when you're over a chasm. It's a real thing for some reason -- it simply drops pod launch when you don't have floor underneath you. You can make it consistent by Light Attacking at the same moment you input the launch (called a "Marky launch" because of its founder Marky), but that's a level of complexity I don't think would pay off for a beginner. If pod launch isn't the tech you're referring to, let me know because we'd all be very interested if there's tech we haven't yet found.
@strooy
@strooy 4 жыл бұрын
@@KanarisTwitch your right, I'm new to attempting some of the skips. I use pod launch instead for horizontal jumps. like after jumping over the bridge. i don't see that tech move anywhere, just saying it helps me get over some walls after getting enough vertical height.
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 4 жыл бұрын
@@strooy Right on. Yeah it can be useful and I used to love using it a lot. You should join the nier speedrun discord @ discord.nierspeedrun.com if you haven't yet. Lots of people available to give advice if you're ever unsure.
@strooy
@strooy 4 жыл бұрын
​@@KanarisTwitch is there a discord. I was determined to go out of bounds using the pod launch and I did it! I got in a corner, on the forest kingdom section of the game (casual play). where the first locked door is. I was trying to clip thru b/c I noticed it did a camera thing and I remembered a Roblox bug of clipping through walls. sadly it didn't work, but my character partially clipped the side of the wall. then i thought maybe it can be like a pokemon clip. so, i went around the wall, walked around till I found a spot to fall thru the map, and use my noob jumping skills to get past the game without opening it. So, I'd say it's not useless, I don't know chance of finding more glitches with it.
@Chad.Thundercock
@Chad.Thundercock 2 жыл бұрын
i dont get this practis tool to work
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 2 жыл бұрын
Join our speedrun discord at discord.nierspeedrun.com and ask the kind people there about it. I haven't touched this game in years so I won't be able to help you with that. Good luck!
@nicolesb3144
@nicolesb3144 2 жыл бұрын
You can't do this with 9S right?
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 2 жыл бұрын
I think you might be able to get enough height using the double lift version but I don't remember. Double lift version: Walk into the girders I use to demonstrate near the start of this video. Need to be walking into them from the long edge, not the thin ends. Like this: ______________ | | ----------------------- ^^^ The sequence will be: Lift > delayed lift > jump > pod launch > pod spin The first lift will probably need to be ever so slightly delayed, to allow 9S to brush against the top surface of the girders during the scoop part of the lift. If you have the Mirage pod program you can get more height by inserting it into the sequence like so: Lift > delayed lift > mirage > jump > pod launch > pod spin (or if you prefer...) Lift > mirage > delayed lift > jump > pod launch > pod spin If you struggle with double lifting, try practicing it moving upward on a basic slope such as the ramp leading into pascal's village or the concrete slopes at the end of prologue, before Engels. Those double lifts, however, dont need the first lift delayed; it has to be instant.
@rickydaviesgymshitpost
@rickydaviesgymshitpost 4 жыл бұрын
Has this been patched out?
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 4 жыл бұрын
Nope! Still works just fine. All the tech shown is intact and so is the lack of wall above the tip of the bridge. Join the nier speedrun discord if you have any issues. Link's in the video description
@rickydaviesgymshitpost
@rickydaviesgymshitpost 4 жыл бұрын
@@KanarisTwitch thanks I cant use discord rn its broken for some reason but I'm kinda struggling with the skip I've managed to pull it off twice but still very unsure how to do it consistently
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 4 жыл бұрын
@@rickydaviesgymshitpost Just keep at it bud. If you upload a vid of attempts where you don't know what went wrong, I can be more specific but other than what I said in this video I really don't have any advice! Sorry!
@rickydaviesgymshitpost
@rickydaviesgymshitpost 4 жыл бұрын
@@KanarisTwitch I think I'm just confused about the timming maybe but I'll make a video attempt later after work also thank u :)
@KanarisTwitch
@KanarisTwitch 4 жыл бұрын
@@rickydaviesgymshitpostoh yeah if you can capture gamepad viewer in the video it'll be more clear what you're attempting to do
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