www.ClassicVWbugs.com In this short Video I show how to time your old school VW engine with a small test tight. Chris
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@davepeters52583 жыл бұрын
Chris Valone is the MAN! His videos are the absolute best for us "newbies" who don't really know everything yet. He makes things easy for us to understand and follow. Thanks Chris!!!
@classicvwbugs3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!
@jeffmagill74573 жыл бұрын
No more dying at idle! You’re an amazing teacher man thank you so much
@ironclaw9119 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Chris. Never knew that could be done. Thanks for all the time you put into the art.
@arielshtern41253 ай бұрын
I'm able to keep my bug as a daily driver thanks to your videos. Other channels use highliy professional tools that cost too much for a feller to keep at home. You keep things simple and reasonable for the common folk
@1982robby6 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your contributions to the veedub community. Your how-to videos are a big help in keeping my bug alive!
@classicvwbugs6 ай бұрын
So nice of you
@philiphoward104410 жыл бұрын
Chris you info is invaluable for a VW newbie like me who ain't too SMRT! THANKS FELLA Phil
@jahmon6195 жыл бұрын
Worked like magic! OH how I needed You And KZfaq 30 years ago! Thanks!
@jesusVSsanta10 жыл бұрын
Great video. This has to be the best video for setting the timing on KZfaq... After at least a dozen others, you covered all the details that I needed. thanks!
@richardfrost64736 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris brilliant help you give . Details on how fix vw beetles is a valuable service for me and the other viewer's .
@Vafees16 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your videos......They are very helpful.....My 1956 with an 1835 runs great thanks to you sharing your knowledge.........Thanks Chris
@SuperStraffe8 жыл бұрын
Just restoring the 66 bug I drove in High School back in the early 90's for my sophomore son. You're videos are invaluable! Thank you for making them.
@davidcornelius78417 жыл бұрын
finally, cleaned and gaped the plugs and points. but using this timing method i nailed it. Its a great feeling with it starts and runs good, even drove it around the back yard. Thanks Chris for all the video!
@classicvwbugs7 жыл бұрын
ah you are welcome my friend.
@richlijacanacua5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the help we've got from you. Specifically for the value degree of timing marks.
@juniorclassicvwbugs9243 жыл бұрын
Chris that an old school cool way to time the Car. Brings me back to when I was in collage and I use to drive my car with what I used to call the VW trip kit. My test light, a spare coil, belt and accelerator cable. 😀... l like this video very much.
@juniorclassicvwbugs9243 жыл бұрын
Sorry typo ... when I was in college 😀😀
@user-fi7im1le3p6 жыл бұрын
You are wonderful my friend Chris I am always following you and follow the instructions from you to my cars thank you very much and wish you progress always
@mysticfries27228 жыл бұрын
I'm only 16 and wanting to fix up an old bug. I have very little mechanical experience, but your videos are so kiss.
@johncollins55525 жыл бұрын
Great car to start young , buy a good manual, Haynes or idiots guide... Start by keeping things stock spec. Aim to use the best quality parts from Germany by Bosch for electric and ignition parts, SachsBoges for clutch and shocks, Michelin Tyres , not cheap but the best, remember your life depends on them when on the freeway, on a cold,dark,wet night . That's when you will be glad not to have got the cheap chindian parts that won't last!
@Kbrusky1513 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for this tip man! I just did it and it worked flawlessly.
@FPVandotherprojects Жыл бұрын
Just saying thanks for all the good videos. Took mine for the first good drive last night and your videos were a big part of the process.
@classicvwbugs Жыл бұрын
Very cool 👍 thanks so much.
@andyroo30222 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, My alternator post band clamp snapped and the old alternator moved and threw the belt. The engine got pretty hot as a result of the fan not spinning. I don't think I did any major damage. The engine is a just run in Stan Pobjoy 1600, Stan machined out to 1916cc. Twin port heads, machined cam and dual Kadron carbs with a sidewinder exhaust. It starts and runs now although it is now popping and idling rough. The plugs were pretty bad and number 4 plug lead broke when I removed it, it was cooked. I changed the oil, I put new spark plugs, new ignition leads and a new alternator. I have re wired to an internal regulator type. I noticed that the rotor button is nowhere near number 1 now on my 009 dizzy. All new parts now fitted, I will re tune tomorrow and cross my fingers. Thanks for the well explained easy to do tune. My expertise is more body and paintwork.
@paulrosemond14426 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, Chris. I'm getting the exact opposite problem where I'm not getting the light to turn on at all. I'm using an SVDA distributor with a Pertronix Electronic Ignition, and Pertronix coil. From what I can see, everything is connected correctly.
@michael81907 жыл бұрын
Important note: When rotating the crank pulley to set at your timing mark make sure you are rotating in the direction of rotation (clockwise) before stopping. If you go past your mark, back up the pulley an inch past your intended mark and then rotate clockwise again, then stop at your mark. This keeps all the gear clearance slack on the correct side (distributor drive to crank gear AND distributor drive to the bottom of the distributor itself).
@w.patpeters46435 жыл бұрын
I do that, good thinkin bro.
@andyroo30222 жыл бұрын
Good advice Michael, thanks,
@DEATHWISHVQ8 ай бұрын
Back up means to go back, going left (opposite of right meaning, going counter clockwise) so before your mark, but then you said past the mark which would be clockwise continuation. Did you mean?: if you got past your mark (clockwise), now turn counter clockwise, and stop at one inch before your make, now proceed to go clockwise
@user-qz9yz6zp2k4 ай бұрын
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@goodstuffbetterstuff72074 жыл бұрын
As always... great instructions and in layman terms!! Thanks
@FunFun-tv7gq4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Very HELPFUL, my pulley has the front dimple and the 5.5 degrees ATDC and was NOT SURE what to do. THANKS A LOT AGAIN.
@Gamepwn3Ай бұрын
Excellent video! Had all the info i need to clear up the confusion of why my pullee had 2 marks and not 3. Thank you!
@johncollins55529 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris,first-up I appreciate your effort to take time to put vw newbies on the right road and you come across as a stand-up guy. I live in Ireland and have a 1200 Standard Bug daily driver for 7 years.It is a 72 marina blue with matching numbers,running og engine at 88,000 miles I did a top-end rebuild last year,so-far so-good!I am surprised to see in your timing vid. that a 009 distributor is used seeing as the engine code is a D albeit an earlier one than mine and they run sweeter in stock form with a vacuum advance distributor.009 is for flat-out foot-to-floor driving not daily drivers,unless a twin-carb setup is used.Little tip use a stock ERNST exhaust and remove the baffles from the stock pea-shooter tailpipes for cheap extra pep!
@king5ley11 жыл бұрын
Your video was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do this for people like us
@nathanthreeleaf4534 Жыл бұрын
This really made this easy, thank you! I'd been struggling to figure out if my timing was off, resulting in me not being able to start my sandrail. Now that I have the timing correct and it still won't start, at least I can go on to try and address other potential issues.
@nitrosport511 жыл бұрын
Great video, just used this and your valve video as a reference. Just bought a second vw sandrail and trying to get it all tuned up!
@NoBody420Psilocybin2 жыл бұрын
Ty Very much! First time working on my Bug. Much sucess to you. 🙏💚
@vibrantvitalityvibes79314 жыл бұрын
Brilliant ! Just one thing was missing at the end, to start to engine and listen to it ! Thanks a million though !
@ivansego4742 жыл бұрын
you saved my nerves my money and my Bug; Master i am thankful for every detail you showed us.., 🙏
@classicvwbugs2 жыл бұрын
wow thank you, those are some crazy words. Just here to help you guys! =)
@danreid25804 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great lesson no chatter no blah blah blah just to the point!
@capeman1010 жыл бұрын
It is 10 30PM Friday night and I watched this video, I know you must be tried of people thanking you, but thanks for sharing this is a big help.
@classicvwbugs10 жыл бұрын
ah it is all good man, you are very welcome! =o)
@sanclementekid9 жыл бұрын
Also, after your timing light ignites tighten down the distributor, roll pulley counter-clockwise until light goes out. Then roll pulley clockwise and see specifically where the timing light ignites. This gives you an accurate place where ignition will happen.
@wayneartist12 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, somehow it all worked out. I still used the check light as it blinked off while at TDC, and its never run better. I just needed to charge the battery and get fuel into the system. Thanks buddy, you saved me money and I had the pleasure of fixing it myself. That's what bugs are all about, right?
@theaquilaalba5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the 'stubby' distributor - this is what I've got and was always slightly out.
@DarlingBo-bannie3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Wish you were here in Colorado Springs I would have you work on my van.
@luisfigueroa3933 Жыл бұрын
The only video that makes sence. Thank you!
@veteranssuccess21579 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I think this will work. I knocked the gas line off while playing with it earlier. I didn't realize I needed all those tools. Well I need a video on installing points.. We will see what happens.... lol! - Monica
@ratty62beetle11 жыл бұрын
Mate brilliant video and very helpful and easy to understand
@ismailgurgel11 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you very much! I was wondering if there's anyway I can replace the engine bay seals without drooping the engine?
@joshbriggsDayZBeast8 жыл бұрын
Hey brilliant tutorial ill use this method when my '61 beetle is finished. I have a question, will this work on a water-cooled engine from a T25/Vanagon?
@w.patpeters46435 жыл бұрын
Turn the key off...yer makin me nervous. You have the best VW content. Is it a block, a case, a motor, an engine??? Who cares...it's a V - Dub.
@aneyesky11 жыл бұрын
Dizzy? Lol. Another good video. I'm glad you said the part about the split in the block reference
@jasongadberry10162 жыл бұрын
Holy shhh I have been chasing a misfire On the sandrail I’m restoring The video I watched said to time to TDC I’m wondering if that 7.5 degrees is where I’m going wrong and the test light trick is also something I haven’t tried So excited to try it tomorrow Thanks dude
@bbysprite604411 ай бұрын
You're awesome dude. Perfect explanation.
@classicvwbugs11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 👍
@train.sleep.eat.repeat52784 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!
@dirtyderyk13 жыл бұрын
amazing video thanks for sharing im going too try this later this week on my bug
@adrielrowley3 ай бұрын
Not hard to take a turn signal bulb and solder a couple wires with alligator clips on them, made one myself. Clipping the ground to the carburetor linkage sure does make it easier, thank you. 😃 Early cast iron distributor set to 7,5 degrees.
@VolksStokes3 жыл бұрын
School of Vallone Works, Inc. 👍 Thx for clear instructions!
@locosporlosvolkys76405 жыл бұрын
Great video Vallone!
@jorgepaplos11 жыл бұрын
Ok that was ridiculously easy!!, thanks for sharing the super secret and "how to"...
@hecrorgames12074 жыл бұрын
Hi Community, Excellent video and I put it into practice and it worked but my son accidentally replaced the battery and placed positive and negative backwards and I don't understand comkk ok I was able to start the car without problems at the time. It worked well for the first 2 days but today is the 3rd day and watching your video to check with the one lit by the lamp I placed the negative on the negative coil and without moving the distributor rotor I placed the peak of the lamp on the bottom dealer and turn on.
@joeharrod865611 жыл бұрын
Ht's all on right points now, timing it tomorrow, however getting different info for it, some say the usual 5 and 7.5BTDC however found something earlier saying 5ATDC, if you had any ideas on it that would be great as im not too used to working on bug engines! thanks again!
@mrukulele19342 күн бұрын
Thank you. This was extremely helpful!
@darwindyer4348 Жыл бұрын
Chris, thanks for this video, it was a big help on my first project car. I have a new one that I had do a complete replacement of the wiring loom. When I turn the key I get the two light in the speedo, but I don't get any light on my test light when doing this test. Other than recheck your connections, is there anything you can think of that I might need to do? I am really stumped at this point...
@classicvwbugs11 жыл бұрын
You have to be able to time it statically regardless. You have to make sure the timing light is on the neg side of the coil.
@51d3w1nd31211 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, solved my puzzle too!
@DanTheManIOM9 жыл бұрын
Just this Chris on my 67 bus --- I had the dimple and V notch at 7.5 degrees, did the negative post and carb base with a VOM and read 12V, turned it, read 1 volt, back to reading 12 and bolt it down, hit the key and wa la it started right up -- I could not get it to start a few days ago -- plus plug wire 3 was not conected...THANKS !
@DanTheManIOM2 жыл бұрын
6 years later and I am back again...same vehicle...different engine....
@markbarry2315 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris great footage, just one question I know you say you time your bugs at 7.5 degrees before top dead centre is it still the same with svda distributor on a 1600 dual port with 34 pict 3 set up? Thanks
@jasonsmith80912 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris I really appreciate your videos! I have a question if you could find the time? My question is I was trying to rewire my bug and I done away with the voltage regulator and put the alternator on instead of the generator, what does it mean when my switch is off and the light in the car stays on, I guess its getting double fed? Also my test light stays on when I turned the switch off on the distributer like your video. Could you please help me out! Thanks for the video and keep them coming!
@regalado12347 жыл бұрын
Hi: Thanks for your videos! it teach me a lot on how to make the adjustments of my beloved beetle. Just one question: I live in a place whit high elevation (3000mts as cusco), I've heard that when adjusting timing I have to advance more than 7 1/2 even to 15 degrees. Is there any formula to calculate that?
@jcxperts3 жыл бұрын
The green vacuum ball must take care of it...
@marcosgomez7771 Жыл бұрын
My mind is blown!! 🤯🤯🤯
@jordanswindoll38743 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial! Can you use this same method with an SVDA distributor with an electronic ignition system?
@classicvwbugs3 жыл бұрын
you can, but some electronic ignitions do not work with the test light, some do some dont.
@erichansen93692 жыл бұрын
Thank you.great info.
@Pulkkinen11 Жыл бұрын
great tutorial, does this method work with every bug? my parents got a -72 bug with vacuum advance distributor, does that make any difference with the settings?
@lexiaontube7 жыл бұрын
wow , that it's really useful , thx :)
@saturnworld18402 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Do you know what the test lights are actually called?
@JohnnyBoy192912 жыл бұрын
@AMRIE21 If you look under his videos, he has two videos (part 1 and part 2) on how to adjust your valves. Good luck with the beetle!
@stephenport4768 Жыл бұрын
Love it that's a wonderful little cheat
@bmwe30init2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Any chance you or anyone knows If this still works with pertronix? Thanks
@feardSS11 жыл бұрын
First of all very good video, I bought my wife a 74 Bus would it be the same setting as the bugs. And will this method work on the t4 porche engine. Im new to vw's so not very sure and trying to learn.
@smoke.tokes4208 ай бұрын
ayyy 4 months later after getting motivation to work on my bug im back on this video lol
@PSPHaCkErAOD12 жыл бұрын
on my 68 with vac adv my number 1 is the where urs with out it is, i followed my wire checked the valves to confirm and as part of the tune up im doin cause its running crappy at the moment. i when i do wat u do to adjust the timing i only get a quick flicker of the light, i doesnt stay on in any spot, so ibout another test light and get the same thing so i was guessing that thats the spot i want it for my timing?
@jderossett7811 жыл бұрын
this video is great.. one question when i hook my light up it stays on it doesnt go off ever. what could that be . thank s
@TheDozens412 жыл бұрын
@brighteyefilms I just did what this video said and it worked! My car starts fine! but now im idling REALLY low and its misfiring all over the place and now everything else seems wrong.... what do i do!? please respond ASAP!
@americoboarettojunior Жыл бұрын
Aqui no Brasil, devido a mistura de álcool na gasolina, geralmente deixamos o ponto de ignição entre 12,5 e 15 graus.
@lillyblue19075 жыл бұрын
Just checking to make sure if I have spark advance I set it straight up at 0 top dead center right? Thanks
@greatescape7735 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I'll try it with mine
@elkid789 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video i have a full injected beetle how can i do it
@Hi_Tec5 жыл бұрын
If you are on the road and you have no test lamp on hand simply disconnect the cable from the oil pressure switch and use the oil pressure indicator as your test lamp. You have to look through the rear window to see the lamp. The other end of the lamp ist connected to plus 12 or 6 Volt. So all you need is the wrench with the 10 mm socket. So the beetle comes with a built-in monitor for ignition timing. How cool is that.
@cubey Жыл бұрын
Or just go buy a $3 test light at HFT
@latitude602510 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing this video..AMG
@joeharrod865611 жыл бұрын
Hi there, currently working on a 1973 1300 beetle, previous owner done majority of work, im just finishing her up. it has had a 1600cc unleaded conversion kit fitted, two twin 40mm solex carbs, Monza exhaust, bosch 009 distributor, tried to fire it up, backfired and almost set fire to right hand carb, my guess would be that the ignition timing is way out and needs adjusting, what would be your advice? Many thanks, and great video! Cheers, joe.
@davidwhocares3293 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris Great video ! 👍 you mentioned that when you have the shorter distributor that you set the timing with the pulley at TDC...so is that all vacuum advance distributors get timed at TDC and only the 009 gets timed at 7 1/2 before TDC ? Thanx !! 😊
@classicvwbugs Жыл бұрын
what year bug do you have? Most if not all short stubby distributors set at TDC. Anything tall like the 009s, go 7.5BTDC
@davidwhocares3293 Жыл бұрын
@@classicvwbugs thanx for the reply ...have a few lol...was just wondering if the rule was if it has vac. Adv. Set at TDC....and no vac. Adv....set at 7 1/2 btdc
@dornier282813 жыл бұрын
good information thanks for the video
@lockfordian13 жыл бұрын
great video
@saiesafari96406 жыл бұрын
thanks your the best
@classicvwbugs11 жыл бұрын
Yeah you would time the same way with an electronic ignition. If you have way off readings from a static to a timing lights, could be the distributor. They should be the same.
@leehaynes42753 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris should a vw air cooled engine not have a vacuum advanced distributor? I've recently changed mine to a vac adv distributor and it's running so much better, no flat spot and starts instantly! Best thing I've done to the engine (1600cc air cooled)
@classicvwbugs3 жыл бұрын
Yes they all came with a vacuum advance, except the early years up to 53 oval in the 25hp era. A 1600dp motor runs much better with a vacuum advance.
@michaelibey67004 жыл бұрын
If you have a 70's VW with a double-pull distributor, you cannot time them with a test light, you HAVE to use a timing light on those.Also, it's a good idea to check the retard diaphragm on a double pull distributor as many are blown. Double-pulls are timed at idle with both vacuum hoses connected to 5 ATDC. Which is a notch to the left of the dimple on the front rim of the pulley. 411/412's are a completely different animal that are timed at around 3500 RPM TO 27 BTDC on American market fuel injected cars.
@tonyfeole65332 жыл бұрын
very helpful. Issue resolved.
@classicvwbugs11 жыл бұрын
your points might be too tight or you have the light hooked up to the positive side of the coil.
@juanmanuelcortez10982 жыл бұрын
I Double checked Points at .016 good gap , I actually took My coil Off to also double check + - conectors 🤔😶 Might it be the inside of the distributor it's the only part that's been untouched LoL 😅
@manningcustom Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. My 74 ghia is sputtering for about 2 seconds after I turn it off. Only after it has run for more than 30 min or so.
@jonhumphries90203 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, my family has had the same Beetle for 51yrs ,it’s been stored in my Dads garage for 40yrs ,we are going to try to get it back to life again ,it’s a 1964 Vw beetle 1200 6volt what fuel should I put in it ? Cheers Jon
@cautivonorteno4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris great vid, quick question. What if you have the short stubby distributor with the vacuum advance? What are those timed to? Thanks in advance
@classicvwbugs4 жыл бұрын
usually 0
@cautivonorteno4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help!
@melanieenglert9312 жыл бұрын
You can't time the double vacuum distributors this way, 1971 thru 74. I'd love to see a timing light tutorial with the later 34 PICT 3 factory distributors, which have to be timed with both vacuums attached to 5 ATDC while the car is running.
@seankirkland87308 жыл бұрын
Hi My 72 1200 bug has a pulley with a dimple and a v opposite is this set at 7.5? also running a vacuum advanced dizzy.
@IUDICA0079 жыл бұрын
very nice thamk you!
@sompodtanagornmaetar31872 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris Just subscribe and check your cool video! I just curious that i have bug with vacuums advance dist installed on it. Do i need to time it 7.5btdc or at btdc? I check some video and mess up with it. Thank again!
@classicvwbugs2 жыл бұрын
That would be zero. But you can try 7.5
@gmd14174 жыл бұрын
@Chris Vallone - When you intall electronic ignition like Pertronix, do you use static timing at first? Thanks!
@classicvwbugs4 жыл бұрын
You can try it yeah. Sometimes it works, sometimes not, depends on the brand of the unit.