I would be curious to see what Daytona USA CCE would look like with the cars and circuits from Gran Turismo.

@@Frogbull55 awesome idea 😎

They did, it just wasn't very common. The Saturn is hard to work with.

No no, the Dreamcast it's cool but i don't like bootleg version of Crash Bandicoot Sega saturn.

​@@VictorGonzalez-xs9oc Do you know what fan-made means? Because i don't think you do.

@@VictorGonzalez-xs9oc You have no brain

If devs have better tools now to program on classic systems... Why all homebrew games play like crap? I still haven't seen one game as good as top 80s or 90s game. Just one.

@@Italia.90 Because in the end it turns out that it wasn't as easy as you thought. In the end, these people have to re-study the hardware, and I highly doubt that it is easy to study old hardware, especially the way some companies programmed it (like Naughty Dog). But a prove of that could be at the very least the hacking some modders did to optimize specific games. Mario 64 can run better on the real hardware with better graphics now. Crash Team Racing which was a cutting edge PS1 game now has playable Oxide which was scrapped for lack of power. Just for giving some examples.

Thanks @swooperd

I'm not crazy! You're crazy! Especially you, Nappa! 🤯

Great and nice work! 💪You made it from scratch or you use the decompilation project of Wurly Fox as a base?

@@Frogbull55 Reply. But KZfaq deleted my comments. You probably have them in the KZfaq spam section.

Saturn would go up in flames trying to run Ridge Racer type 4😂

​@@hpickettz34 I know Type 4 is a masterpiece. But also at that time the PS1 was in its 5th DevKits. While Saturn only made it to 2nd before dying. With this we saw games with many effects such as Grandia, Panzer Dragoon Saga or Burning Rangers. And without going any further, XL2 showed us an Unreal on Saturn very recently. That's why I think that, squeezing out much more than what was achieved in its time, the Sega console could run the named games. Obviously with some different things. But no less meritorious.

@@hpickettz34 If ps1 could do it, surely the Saturn could handle it as well.

@@hpickettz34 PlayStation would go up in flames trying to run Unreal

​@@JaimeValladares00 The PS1 actually had an official port of Unreal in development before being cancelled, it would have worked. As well as proof of concept demos made of Half Life and Quake 3 as well.

Thanks!

Sounds like someone played the bridge level and rage quit

Thanks ;)

Thanks!

Thanks and it's in my plans to update it ;)

"One of the besteffects I've managed to reproduce is the water cascade in Ripper Roo's level, achieved by using multiple sprites." Why not just use palette cycling? I'd assume that's how it was done on the original Playstation, and should be much less resource intensive then flipbook animations.

If this ever got open sourced (alongside the level editor you said you were working on) it would be a great basis for an indie platformer on Saturn.

Just to be clear, this is not a source port, right? Just a recreation.

Yes, it's a recreation, but I may incorporate some code from C1 (a reverse engineering of Crash Bandicoot by Wurly Fox) in the future

Thanks @pedoropedoro7887 😜

Just imagine Colin McRae Rally with the game engine of Sega Rally and a new physics 🤯

@@Frogbull55 dude you just blew my mind 😘

1. Estoy haciendo esto solo en mi tiempo libre 2. Mis proyectos son creados desde cero 3. Sigo trabajando en mis otros proyectos para Dreamcast, no te preocupes 😁

@@Frogbull55 magnífico!!!!

Gracias @pablom.3406, ¡por favor ayuda a correr la voz! 😉

Thanks!

😁

Maybe the fact that Naughty Dog signed an exclusivity contract with a small publisher named Sony Computer Entertainment has something to do with it 🤣

Naughty dogs didn’t make crash bandicoot that completely makes no sense what you just said and besides naught dogs got no games boring publisher to deal with

​@@samamir8765 te caíste de la cama de chiquito verdad?

There was a similiar game called Pandemonium, released for both PlayStation and Saturn. In Japan it was called Magical Hoppers. You can comparedl both ports to have an idea

OMG YES PLEASE

It would run just fine. It's geometry is not very complex and all characters are sprites.

Thanks!

I finish projects. Well, one project. .... takes years.

Ojalá ❤

real negative nancy energy here

@@Mittens0407 Because he never finishes what he starts.

@@SomeOrangeCat Does he owe anything to you?

​@@Mittens0407 No, but he keeps trying to go "Look! Sega can do anything Sony can!!!" but all he releases are little janky demos. Back that boast up with some completed titles.

Very hard but making exclusive levels for the Saturn, hell yes! To create an authentic port, I'll need to explore Wurly's amazing Crash Bandicoot decompilation project 😉

​@@Frogbull55will you take a look at the decompilation and update the psychs and the animations to be more accurate?

@@ssg-eggunner Yes it's in my plans, especially for the physics of movement 😉

Which this demo shows nothing of

The hidden surface removal wasn't done in-engine. Levels were preprocessed and loadlists added to indicate what geometry to load based on crash's position. And vertex animations were commonplace (and old at that point). The chunk-based data division WAS one of the big developments of the crash engine

@@Almamu thanks for the tech explanation. Not seeing anything from this mock up sadly that demonstrates any of this in action

@@RoloTonyBrownwhy would that be??? 🤔 lol

Except he never finishes any of his projects. He's the devblog version of adult ADHD.

Yes sir!

​@@Frogbull55will you keep editing the engine as development of your crash demake comes along?

I think it's possible, but the textures will have to be more compressed and in lower resolution than in Rayman Origins for the Wii (given the difference in RAM)

@@Frogbull55 i understand, will you try to make a port in the future? That would be awesome ;)

Not hard but costly, fake lighting using baked-in vertex colors was a more common practice back in the days. 😉

@@Frogbull55 eats vram ?solution?

Old solution like this: twitter.com/HelderHP/status/1780014728775074300

@@Frogbull55 wow still looks cool 😎

セガサターンしろ 😎

To the Dreamcast? What IS the point? The Dreamcast IS parto of the ps2 gen and there IS already a Port for the Saturn

I know about the Saturn port ;) but I think that it would be nice to have the option betwen Saturn and Dreamcast version, anyway there are not that many 2d platformers on the dreamcast... ​@@esppiral

Why not Pandemonium 2? For Sega Saturn or KLONOA. That would be nice.

Not yet ;)

It's the Semi-transparent mode (using the macro CL_Trans when rendering the polygons of the water with the VDP1)

Well soul reaver 2 was supposted to come out on the Dreamcast and either other games where too but where moved to PS2 or been totaly cancelled.

Cause they’re based

​@@JaimeValladares00sure it probably requires more effort and time in a regard but it results in very innacurate psychs, pacing and animations as seen in the video

@@ssg-eggunner It’s not even the final version which Frog already stated in their Patreon & it’s impressive to already have something near identical to the actual game & it being playable at that

It's very hard to know; maybe some PlayStation games released after the Dreamcast, like Wipeout 3, Gran Turismo 2, Ridge Racer Type 4, Ace Combat 3, Crash Team Racing or Final Fantasy VIII, would have been a huge challenge for the Saturn. But we'll never really know because the Saturn didn't live long enough to show us everything it had under the hood 😔

No it's a recreation, in the mid 90s Naughty Dog had an exclusive contract to keep the Bandicoot on the PlayStation 😉 Ironically, now Crash Bandicoot belongs to Activision which now belongs to Microsoft 🤪

I thought about it but talented people are already doing it, if you're interested by development on Saturn check the YT channel of @EmeraldNova

...and the Devilcast too!

Ah, Your Honor of the Internet Court, perhaps the release of my Star Wars homebrew for the Dreamcast ( www.patreon.com/posts/download-star-of-100098060 ) last month might be enough to avoid any decapitation threats 😟 Should I consider bringing Chewbacca as my legal counsel for some extra support? 🙃

Cry about it

It would be too easy to blame developers alone; today's video game industry is nothing like the '90s. Some companies are massive, with decisions sometimes made without project leads' approval. Marketing departments take a big slice of the pie, with individuals who derive no pleasure from gaming and understand little about it, exerting insane pressure to release games as quickly as possible. Work hours have always been significant in gaming, but constantly working under pressure isn't sustainable long-term, especially when someone fresh out of business school is giving nonsensical orders while earning three times a developer salary. 😵‍💫

@@Frogbull55 I understand what you're saying and that is true. But the point I was trying to make is that necessity is the mother of invention. I think consoles today are nowhere near as limited and developers aren't challenged enough to make diamonds in the rough. And like you said when the publisher has a business plan that concentrates more on secondary stuff like microtransactions and political optics then making a truly great game that squeezes out the max of a console's capability becomes secondary. Known or hidden capabilities. For example I always thought that porting over Street Fighter Alpha 2 to the SNES was a small miracle. Due to the creation of that graphics compression SDD-1 chip . You just don't see stuff like this today. I know we're talking two completely different generations of hardware and architecture. But for every amazing Doom port on the Nintendo Switch there are a bunch of great games that were never even ported or disasters like MK11 and MK1 reboot ports for the Switch. Another example of not maxing out a console's power were the launches of the PS5 and Series X. These are the two most powerful home consoles ever created. But at launch neither console had a true exclusive title built from the ground for this generation and to fully use their capabilities and power. Every game out was just an enhanced PS4 pro and Xbox One X port at best. And a lot weren't even that good. I know Covid delayed things and projects for Sony and Microsoft. And that there were chip shortages worldwide. But you mean to tell me neither of these industry giants couldn't have one true showpiece this gen title ready for launch? I like millions of other loyal customers paid a fortune and waited in line for almost a combined 24 hrs to get both consoles. That's blasphemy! I'm 41 years old and I don't ever remember a new console generation launch this underwhelming. Well anyways that's my take. Keep up the great work and thx for responding. Maybe one day you can port over Killer Instinct to the Genesis. I've always wondered if that's possible after how well Vectorman on the Mega Drive. Take care.

AI?

Lol, Croc and Pandemonium arent nearly as impressive or demanding as even the first Crash game.

The Sega Saturn was much less powerful than the PSX tough

kek

And you always can play dream cast on psx mini ​@XbandTv

tbh I really don't care about filters for the most part they usually look like ass aside that the only times they're useful is when it comes to having planes with smooth gradients (take sm64's shifting sand land's floor for example), which can be easily replaced by vertex coloring, which is less performance intensive than a texture the N64 sucked in graphics thanks to the pitiful texture cache and weak as hell RAMbus

You are fake.