Nercochasm’s main perk in its original form was actually “precision kills have a *chance* to trigger a cursed thrall explosion.” Then it went to guaranteed and then just kills.

You remember how the Crota’s End weapons had perks specific to the Hive? E.g. They could disrupt a Wizard, shoot through a Hive Knight’s darkness wall etc. What if they gave Necrochasm those perks? A weapon designed specifically to be used against the Hive. Gives it that uniqueness I suppose.

Okay for Necrochasm, you mentioned the idea that after a certain amount of kills you can have an alternate firing mode to turn the weapon into a hive boomer. That is actually genius and follows a similar path to Vex Mythoclast. Keep the explosive perk on the base weapon and, like you mentioned, increase it's size, damage, or both, and kills gain stacks to switch to the alternate firing mode. Maybe the hive boomer mode should have intrinsic unstoppable

If it is Wrath and that needs an exotic, do a tuned version of the Khvostov. We do the raid, get an item like a SIVA core or something, have to find the golden age parts again, then run the raid a second time and we get the Exotic Khvostov back. Hold reload to change the firing mode auto/burst/single, and have a headshot kill release a small cloud of nanites (smaller than outbreak).

touch of malice was one of the hardest exotics to get. i remember when i realized you had to get 45/50 calcified fragments that i would never unlock it. i ended up get all 50 fragments and unlocking it. the feeling was insane

For Touch of Malace, I really don't see an issue with Bungie reworking the perk to make it make more sense in the d2 sandbox. We have SO many more ways of healing now, but only a few can be applied during boss damage like rift & well. I think ToM would serve much better as a day to day gun that you combine with other lesser healing effects like Devour, and that would reward building around it. If you spec into negating the health loss, you're rewarded with an above-average primary to wreck face with.

Young Wolf's Howl might work as an ignition centric heavy. Effectively an equipable version of the Scythe on the Leviathan.

When husk of the pit first dropped for me I was surprised and intrigued on what it was. After figuring out it could be upgraded it was pretty exciting. Good times, hopefully a similar process can happen.

If Necrocasm comes back, having it synergize with necrotic grips and be another weapon similar to graviton, sunshot, and thunder lord, could make it better. if the poison/corruption or whatever ppl call it subclass becomes a thing it would be cool to see it have synergies with that too.

Instead of Young Wolf's Howl as the Wrath exotic, I would actually prefer a SIVA-Khvostov. It still has thematic relevance to Rise of Iron, and a nostalgia factor. I think, to make it actually relevant, they should include the ability to intrinsically switch between champion mods on each of its different firing modes. That alone would easily make it actually valuable in endgame content.

Me personally, I think it would be kinda cool to bring in Siva weapons like a SMG, Handcannon, ect. But I would definitely love to have the Wrath of The Machine Siva Armor set make a return, along with the armor set from King's Fall.

Listen, I’m just saying, Bungie should actually make the bayonet on Touch of Malice actually function. I just wanna have a funny knifey gun

I honestly love these discussion/speculation videos

My pipe-dream is to have Crota’s End come back during Lightfall (year 6) while (hopefully) the speculated “sorrow” element is a thing, and Nechrochasm comes back as a weapon of sorrow like Thorn/Osteo, thus no Riskrunner conflicts! Tis but a fantasy…

I think a Siva grenade launcher would be awesome to replace outbreak in the raid. If one was made it could be made to work similar to outbreak except it releases the siva on impact, increasing the aggressiveness and amount with a catalyst. Somewhat like shooting a canister that shatters on impact releasing what is inside.

I think that Touch of Malice Exotic Perk Should Stay the same or have an additional feature, but tye main change should be unrelenting, it could be changed to something similar to soul drinker, to regen hp on reload after hits on the target, so the user can choose when to heal and stop the perk, or reloading while Touch of Malice is active starts regen and gives a oversheild for 3 seconds

Touch of Malice + Devour would quite literally make anything up until GMs laughable in difficulty

In d2, we have sunshot for solar explosion, graviton lance for void explosion, nercochasm can fit into arc explosion. And arc 3.0 is coming next. I really hope this gun can return and fun to use.

And here we are with Necrochasm back in the game and it's super fun!

When my friends and I discussed the idea of Wrath returning, I always like to put out the idea of the Exotic Khvostov variant returning. Back in D1 it was like having a pretty good auto rifle and a crappy pulse and scout rifle, but I could easily see that changing if it was brought back.

Seeing some D1 gameplay is bringing back some fond memories

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Something else to note about Necrochasm. Bad Juju has a chance to literally just do what it does. Not just in feel like sunshot, but straight up use a cursed thrall explosion.

I'm really hoping for Wrath to return, and i think a possible choice for an exotic to come with the raid could be the Khvostov 7G-0X

I really want necro back as an smg. And i think necrochasm is a weapon of sorrow? Not 100% on my lore, but if thats the case it would be poison element like thorn and osteo. Unfortunately osteo is so insanely strong I dont see necro ever dethroning it or even getting close.

Necro was such a cool looking and feeling raid exotic. Loved that gun.

Me and some clanmates were talking about Wrath since we think it’s coming back, and came to the conclusion that if it was brought back they should bring back the exotic swords from D1 (Raze Lighter, Bolt Blaster, Dark Drinker) since they were commonly used during boss DPS, and to make it unique, make it one sword with the Hard Light/Borealis effect where you can switch with a long press.

We've seen Bungie make a very active effort in the past to remove/rework any perks or abilities that remove the need to reload so I feel like Touch would need an almost complete rework before coming back. And it's self-damage would be a non-issue due to how much easier it is for us to regain health in D2 than it was in D1. As for Wrath I'd love to see what Bungie could come up with for a totally new SIVA-themed exotic. A grenade launcher that fires a literal SIVA charge that explodes into a swarm of nanites, or some sort of "smart" weapon where the shots just have ridiculous homing and you don't even need to aim (maybe as an alt-fire you need to charge up so it's not too OP). Idk there's a lot of potential for more SIVA weapons I think

I think for wrath it would be cool to see something never done before in a raid. Give each class their own exotic armor to chase that has some sort of perk that synergizes with siva. Whether siva be just limited to pairing with the outbreak or if they add siva as a new damage type like stasis or dot from weapons of sorrow.

Necrochasm my beloved… definitely interested to see how they change each of them, especially what they do in the case of WotM. If they just left ToM in its current state I would love to see how it pairs with loreley titans.

Touch of malice was also used in warpriest. Honestly because of how often you could cheese your ult back, I used malice for all of kings fall except golgaroth. It's dps was so insane it was basically a sniper that never ran out of ammo. By that I mean when you add reload times into the equation it did more than snipers without white nail(whisper).

I loved Touch of Malice and used it ALOT and in most content in D1. REALLY loved the fact it was more complicated to use. Who needs a point and click weapon when this one requires you to build into it and learn to use and max out the weapons strength. My second most favorite weapon after Outbreak Prime.

I think for this to really fit into D2 I've always imagined it as the only 900(or even 1000) rpm auto rifle in the game, to really give it the proper uniqueness of an exotic weapon. Like how vex is a semi auto fusion. Balancing something with auto rifle range and smg rate of fire would be tricky though

For Wrath of the Machine, I say make a new weapon since we have Outbreak already. My suggestion: a SIVA version of the Exotic Kvostov.

they could make necrochasm charge up "hive energy" with primary fire whenever you land hits; then you could shoot an alt fire railgun/beam shot that creates a bigger more deadly explosion the more stacks you have (up to 100 or something). then the hive flames/glow on the sides could also be a visual indicator so as stacks increase, it glows more and when you're at max stacks it glows the same blue as crota because we love shoving world ending entities into guns

I'll never forget the grind to get Necrochasm, it was the magical thing of making one weapon evolve to another. The good old days when there were many obscure methods to get stuff.

Joke Idea for WotM exotic: Siva Pocket Infinity When you hit shots, it maybe does some kind of nanite thing, or has a chance to return ammo back to the magazine or feed the magazine from reserves. So that way it kind of lives up to the name and stays effective. However, instead of missed shots having a high chance to immediately return to the magazine, give it a delay like revoker.

Id love for touch of malice to be unchanged in PvE but have less bonus damage in PvP. Young wolf's howl could just be made into solar 3.0 heatshadow. Give it cure and ignitions or something.

So there was a really weird bug when Bad JuJu had just gotten added to Destiny 2 during soop, when getting kills specifically for the catalyst every single person would get a random giant hive explosion that did damage equivalent to a rocket launcher shot. This would only happen once as it only occured while grinding the catalyst kills and would happen at around 300/500 kills making it impossible to trigger again. This led me and many others to believe that this would be the effect given to Necrochasm in it's eventual return. This massively buffed shot would be incredible for dealing with major enemies near minor targets given that it had a longer cooldown I'd say of at least 8 seconds as a form of balance. On top of that now with all Weapons of Sorrow synergizing with Necrotic Grips there could be a synergy where any targets damaged but not killed by the explosion would be poisoned, instantly turning Necrochasm into one of the most powerful, yet somewhat niche, weapons in Destiny 2.

There are a lot of ways I can see them making Necrochasm insane. For example, allowing the Cursed Thrall explosions to chain, making it do much more damage than Sunshot’s explosions, implementing Wizard Poison attack somehow, etc.

I would love to see a brand new exotic for Wrath, maybe another SIVA exotic that interacts with the nanites in a fresh new way. Necrochasm would also be cool but I think they should give it the Vex Mythoclast treatment so it has a totally new effect on top of what it already does. I think Touch of Malice should be reworked in some way so that it’s not just an extremely niche weapon anymore.

You forgot to mention that Nechrochasm had only a chance to proc a cursed thrall explosion when it first came out.

Touch of malice paired with the void barrier overshield would be interesting since the barrier has a very small cooldown

The one D1 exotic i've been hoping comes back is the Khvostov, I always thought it was pretty cool.

i can see the damage perk on this being changed to a built up thing, requiring you to get a certain amount of kills to have the double damage at the end of the mag, i would love to have Touch of Malice back untouched, and then have it tuned to the current sadbox like Vex Mytho

Since necrochasm is a weapon of sorrow, it’d be cool if they added some sort of poison or curse mechanic to it. Like sustained fire or kills curses enemies and hitting max curse stacks triggers cursed thrall explosions. Basically how scorch and ignitions work now

Necrochasm should be put into the Kinetic slot and turned into a weapon of sorrow like thorn and Osteo striga. It's effect could be something like "Every time you kill a target with the explosion, gain rapid health Regen." Or something like that.

One thing to consider is ruinous effigy. It has a similar "eat your health at 1 ammo" when you're holding the orb shield. This effect actually cancels out devour and shields and healing with one key condition: it ramps up it's damage. You can out heal it at the start , but eventually it's damage ramps up to the point where it outright one shots you. I could see ToM doing this to allow functionality with well of radiance, restoration, and overshield

I don't know how hard this could be coding wise, but what if kills with necrochasm turn enemies into cursed thrall and they sprint at other enemies. Then, those explosion kills turn them into cursed thrall too, which makes a massive horde of cursed thrall just clear a room. I think that could be really cool.

For nechrochasm how about kills with this weapon turn the enemy into a cursed thrall that explodes on targets? You kill the enemy, it explodes, and out of the explosion comes a cursed thrall that runs at enemies and explodes?

The main reason Tommy's matchbook sees very little use is because they took away the constant health regeneration when heated up and turned it into faster health regeneration delay, if they reversed that change and put it back to where it was it'd see a lot more use.

For Necrochasm you could make it so precision kills spawn friendly cursed thrall that could follow enemies and explode on them. Gives the weapon the same explosion effect while giving it some new flair and utility. Could be used for aggro juggling or clearing out small rooms more efficiently. Makes the explosion damage more consistent by making it almost guaranteed. Maybe if you don’t wanna go through the trouble of making friendly cursed thrall you could do the arc butterflies instead. They track onto enemies then explode or can over-shield a low health ally.

I think Necrochasm won't come back. Given the aesthetic of the gun it probably wouldn't be arc, but rather kinetic like Thorn and Osteo Striga. Which leads into my next point: Osteo Striga is LITERALLY Necrochasm, but good. It's a SMG and has a better group killing potential, especially with Necrotic Grips.

Also datto as far as young wolfs howl goes you did mention lament but I think if anything it’s more similar in function to heart shadow as they both give a 15% buff and only proc it on heavy attacks

I honestly think Osteo Striga is basically what a D2 version of Necrocasm would be like.

another idea suggestion for you for a vid is maybe going over past D2 raids and talking about what you'd add to make them better similar to the vid where you talked about updating D1 raids to D2

After watching this, I thought to myself how interesting an intrinsic perk like osmosis would be on Necrochasm. First make it a SMG, then with something like osmosis, give it different firing modes such as Solar Acolyte 600 RPM Flamethrower like spread, Arc Cursed Thrall 750 RPM Mini Detonations (think explosive rounds), or Void Ogre 900 RPM Eye Burst style fire. It would be similar in style to Hard Light in that it is adaptive, but not be as flexible while having an interesting exotic perk.

I thought it was clear that Osteo Striga was Necro in SMG form, its essentially an improved iteration, the effect is only different in the visual sense really.

I liked the pause and stare at the whiffed grenade at 1:40

The big primary DPS strat that I knew of for Caretaker with Witherhoard since we kept getting screwed on ammon drops for caretaker. We went 4 hunters with lucky pants and malfeasance shooting a withered boss and putting up at peak 65000 a shot. That's how we did day 1 mode both times.

I say make ex-machina the wrath exotic. Obviously it would need an "exotic" perk added to it. How cool would it be if the added siva nanites to it like outbreak! Not the siva firefly part so much but the sticking nanites with rapid precision hits that would cause you to do more precision damage. Sign me up for that!!

Touch of Malice could really benefit from Cranial Spike, though considering rifts and wells, it depends if Bungie lets them heal you, or if they force you to die after x consecutive shots (they've done this occasionally, can't think of any). For balance, perhaps ToM would do less damage and need Cranial Spike to get the weapon to do suitable damage as a sort of 'ramp-up' mechanic, but once it gets going it does a ton of damage, but needs a rift to be offset. We'd have to see it get released to know how it'd fit at this point, however. Necrochasm should get the cursed thrall explosion alongside Osteo's "Poisonfly" and Thorn's poison mended together. I don't really know how popular this would be, unless we absolutely power crept Necrochasm to the point where it just makes Osteo obsolete. As for Wrath, just bring back Outbreak Prime. What's wrong with two Outbreaks? Ok but seriously, my current opinion is Young Wolf's Howl should become an Iron Banner exotic. As for Wrath? It'd be disappointing to just see Outbreak get removed from the kiosk, a weapon that does NOT need Raid Spoils, and is a great, reliable weapon to give to new and veteran players, into one that does. The quest can't really come back exactly the same (But hey they made ToM's come back for Ruinous Effigy basically so I can be wrong). Essentially, Bungie should make a new exotic if they bring back Wrath. Anything else would harm new players. If it does, however, Siva would be an great subclass idea. I'll throw mine in, it's an old idea but whatever: Ironwolf // CORRUPTED (Reboot: failed. Reboot: Reboot: Reboot--OVERRIDE COMPLETE, NEW DIRECTIVE: CONSUME ENHANCE REPLICATE TARGET: ALL) The weapon has 'Magnificent Howl' as a perk, but whenever this activates, it releases Siva. (Exotic and perk one) Its other perk is Outbreak's Corruption spreads, so headshots will release siva. (Other exotic perk) CATALYST: (Friend of mine's idea) nanites stack and will cause a target to explode, like solar 3.0, which provides the weapon a temporary damage buff for 10 seconds (akin to Vex Mythoclast) the weapon does benefit from general Siva attached to the target, including from Outbreak. Fourth Times also becomes a perk idea two: Breakout Secundus (The world lacks perfection. We have the answers. CONSUME ENHANCE REPL--New Directive? Yes: DESTROY DESTROY DESTROY Precision Frame Intrinsic: Parasitism (Siva causes more damage) Full Choke Assault Mag Beautiful Corruption: Landing all pellets causes a swarm of Siva to create and attack its target and nearby Chain Reaction: Siva element chain reaction, this weapon is geared for ad-clear and yellow bars rather than boss damage. Catalyst: Full-auto (Increases fire-rate) One-Two Punch

Man the nostalgia…you can even see that Destiny 1 was based on the halo games just by its looks. Much more than i remember and that makes me happy. To see where this whole game franchise comes from. Halo DNA is best DNA

The fact that outbreak is already in the game kind of confirms that its kings fall (which sucks cuz i want wrath) but for touch, they can make it have a timer when you reach the final bullet. Lets say 5ish seconds. If you dont hit anything and the timer reaches zero, it automatically reloads. If you do hit targets, you increase the timer. Make the timer cap out at 10 seconds with each shot adding half a second. Hitting rapid shots on a single target (8ish) spreads poison, damaging the target you were shooting and enemies around it, increasing the gun's damage further for the next few shots. For its healing perk, make it exactly like unrelenting with a little extra. Little guys need 3 kills, big guys are instant. Dealing poison damage starts slow, uninterrupted healing (like restoration 1 in pvp). Idk if it needs a catalyst but you could just put the poison stuff mentioned above for it. Or give it redirection from deep.

A workaround for touch of malice and warlock rifts, essentially make the weapon's damage block healing buffs while the perk is active

Osteo Striga is the modern Necrochasm, Tommy's Matchbook is the modern Touch of Malice, and of course Outbreak Perfected is Outbreak Prime. I think that whatever they bring in, it will have to be re-mastered like Outbreak Perfected was, if not more.

Man, Destiny 1s orbit music is so nostalgic. Thanks Marty.

Honestly, I'd love to see Necrochasm come back as the LITERAL Sunshot of Auto Rifles. Make it the only 900rpm auto rifle. Like how Sunshot is the only 150rpm hand cannon. Plus making it still have the cursed thrall explosion-on-any-kill. And give it some arc 3.0 synergy in a catalyst. (or, in a second new perk!) That'd make it something genuinely unique and interesting for once, since 900rpm autos aren't a thing anymore.

When you think about it we already have Necochasm as a legendary SMG with Calus Minitool using Graverobber/Incandescent, so they would have to really heavily rework it to give people a reason to run it over more accessible options that are just as strong to use. (If not stronger.)

With Necro, a possibility for its perk could be “Kills cause the target to explode in a cursed thrall explosion. Enemies killed by the cursed thrall explosion restore a small amount of life.” OR “Kills cause the target to explode in a cursed thrall explosion. Enemies killed by the cursed thrall explosion also explode.”

Bro ToM calcified fragment guide is how I discovered this channel back in 2015😪❤️

Man, watching that Touch of Malice mission on Phobos brought back some traumatic memories 🤯

I genuinely think that they delayed the raid reveal because of 2 things: 1. They're bringing back BOTH Crota and Oryx. 2. Crota is being made into a dungeon. It was so easily solo-ed in D1 that I think they could tune it to a 3 man activity.

Necrochasm is my favorite video game weapon ever made...to say I want it back, and have wanted it back ever since D2 first released...would be a MASSIVE understatement.

Nechrocasm was such an underrated gun because it was hard to get and the perk wasnt as great as others, but it was SUPER COOL aestheticly

Loved the video Datto. Looking forward to fruit summit too!

While I'd like to see Necrochasm remade, I can't help but notice that we were sort of right when we guessed that Osteo Striga would be "D2's Necrochasm". You made the comparison to Sunshot in them both being "Kills explode" guns, but Striga is a weapon of sorrow & SMG that causes toxic explosions on kills or rapid precision hits; Necrochasm is a weapon of sorrow, an auto rifle of the type closer to D2's SMGs. Necrochasm is originally acquired as the Husk of the Pit, which we had to keep using to build experience on it so it could be upgraded into Eidolon Ally and eventually after killing a Hive God (Crota) Necrochasm. Osteo Striga is an exotic that uses the weapon crafting system, which is requires killing a Hive God (Savathun) to unlock the pattern (and also you need to buy the deluxe edition of Witch Queen), and which needs to be levelled with usage to upgrade it with the catalyst. If they brought Necrochasm back it'd need to be significantly better than what it used to be and have an alt fire or something unique to not just be redundant or practically a reskin. As is, after the "unlocking exclusive cosmetics in Eververse" with VoG completions, I could legitimately see completing the Crota's End raid unlocking a Necrochasm ornament for Osteo Striga and the raid exotic being something else entirely. It's not that there isn't room to do something interesting with the gun, it's that they would need to do a significant amount to make it stand out at all. Touch of Malice is funny to look at if you recontextualize it's exotic traits as legendary traits, where it's not far off a Unrelenting/ High-Impact Reserves roll. Granted it has the bottomless clip at the cost of health and the damage boost is bigger, but with primaries universally having infinite ammo reserves, it's remarkably close to a relatively mid-rolled legendary scout rifle by D2 standards. It's still better sure but by how much is questionable.

I want Wrath back and I believe they should create a new SIVA heavy weapon and make a puzzle to get it like with Outbreak, since that’s where a lot of its excitement came from

Tommy's Matchbook answers several questions related to ToM. After writing this it ocurred to me that maybe calling the gun "Tommy's" was a reference to ToM.

Give narrow chasm chain explosions whenever an enemy is killed by narrow chasms explosion, they will also explode in this will continue until the chain can no longer continue.

touch of malice perk now creates a "buff" that prevents all healing, but 3 rapid kills removes the buff for X seconds

I see young wolf's howl as a very good option for wrath's exotic. Make the perk act like the crota's sword ult and add ignition/scorch to it and boom. Add adaptive munitions to necrochasm and make it primary, that'd be rad, or the boomer mode tramsforming it into a sort of gl. And for touch...I think it's okay the way it is. Just make it be 3 hits instead of kills for the healing

Oh Jesus man, the Negro chasm, or the Avalon alley or even the husk of the pit. They were all awesome weapons for a level 10 player of the husker pit was incredible. Once you upgraded it to the idle on Holly it was also incredible large magazine, 900 rounds per second it fucking melts and everything blows up, it’s a little unstable so you have to be able to shoot but you really just point out a crowd of a mob and wave it around, squeezing the trigger and everything dies given the difficulty getting the last bitch you need for the Necro chasm i.e. a hard level rate of Croda grottos in that hard level. I never got it and I wasn’t playing the game when the next version came out, which had a whole different method of acquiring it.

Necrochasm would work great if they ever implement a "poison" or hive magic elemental burn + subclass. Working it into something similar to what osteo striga and thorn are. Buffing explosion damage and radius may be necessary, but it still wouldn't fill much of a niche alongside osteo striga if it had a similar "poison spreading" effect. It would need some major synergies with builds and subclass and element to be any good.

You were correct. D1 raid gear became obsolete as soon as a new expansion dropped. Unless it was in the crucible, gear was tied to its light level it was released with.

The weapons from d1 I want to see come back are the alt thunder lords (as in solar and void) and the 3 exotic swords from kings fall but it would be nice for necro and touch to come back there were fun to use to just watch stuff explode like a thrall and never having to reload on touch

Necrochasm: Kills with the weapon cause cursed thrall explosions. Kills with the explosion raises cursed thrall from the ground that track enemies and explode. NECROchasm, NECROmancer. The catalyst is either chain reaction or something that adds poison to the thrall explosions.

Touch was my most used weapon in destiny, i used it in everything. I dont mind what it does i just love how it looks

I think it would make sense for Necrochasm to also get bumped to the Kinetic slot and maybe get changed to the "green" element when we get it.

My issue with Tommy’s is that the mag does end, where Touch of Malice was bottomless. You also can’t just keep it in the ramped up state as you need to keep firing to keep it active, where Touch would stay in that increased damage mode until you chose to turn it off.

Necrochasm is just arc incandescent with a hive skin

Necrochasm discussion: it's like sunshot Graviton Lance: Am I a joke to you?

Lot of Guardians are forgetting Osteo Striga. It’s basically an updated Necro already, just isn’t 900rpm. Even works with Necrotic Grip’s.

ToM: when you don’t have the dmg boost your bullets can stun barrier champs but when you do have the dmg buff, your bullets can stun unstoppable champs… just a thought

I loved touch for pvp, I think it was a really fun gamble that if you could outpace an opponent you could just quickly tear them up, I think the rework I'd like the most is that it fires faster the longer you hold it, so you shred but eventually burn out of a well, and mercy should activate on rapid precision shots. As for nacho cheese, yeah DoT or maybe like a taken version that creates those blight bombs, personally I'd like it in stasis as well, but I just think that they should double down on the identity of returning raid exotics

God I want Necrochasm back so badly. It'd need a serious rework imo but I love it.

I think Necrchasm needs some sort of ramping damage or alternate fire mode that is powered by kills, that would fit the theme of the raid it comes from. Sword Logic and all, kill for power. I guess ToM could get the same treatment.

i liked how touch of malice was great for a specific encounter, i would like it if bungie could actually do that this time and make it so that every team is stuck on daughters for hours

I gotta be honest, due to my anxiety, my age during D1, and play style now, I have only ever done about 3 VoG runs and that’s all of my raid experience, but since VoG released in D1 there’s been certain weapons I’ve always wanted. Necrochasm’s one of them, since honestly the aesthetic of a hive auto rifle which fires a frenzy of hive energy projectiles is adoring to me. I’d be more than happy for it to come back, even though I kinda doubt I’d be able to get it. If Necrochasm did return though, I hope it’s stay classed as an auto so that it can be a fair medium range option for fun.

I think they could introduce an exotic catalyst for Anarchy to drop from Wrath. 1, it already has a SIVA ornament, 2 I think you could add a SIVA effect to Anarchy that could bump the damage of Anarchy as well as a Outbreak/Anarchy combo. Say Anarchy places stacks of SIVA into a target so it either boosts the damage of Outbreak and Anarchy, or it at least allows a fire team to reach max damage faster. Plus you could also add a SIVA swarm to Anarchy kills, so it's more effective at crowd control.