Brisket Showdown | Kamado Joe Big Joe vs Traeger Timberline XL

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Nick talks a good game with his Traeger-love - but can the new Timberline really compete with the KJ when it comes to brisket? Tune in to find out!
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Chapters in this video:
0:00 Brisket Showdown | Kamado Joe Big Joe vs Traeger Timberline XL
1:28 The Cook Plan
4:05 Setting up and Lighting the Grills
6:37 Trimming, Seasoning, & Smoking Briskets
11:21 Beer O’Clock - Brew Day Part 1 - Mashing
12:55 1st Check on the Briskets
14:00 Brew Day Part 2 - Rinsing
14:22 Next Check on the Briskets
15:22 Brew Day Part 3 - Boiling & Adding Hops
15:43 Brisket Bark is Set - Upping the Temperature
16:44 Brew Day Part 4 - Adding more Hops & Fermenting
17:55 Wrapping Briskets with Tallow and Resting
19:24 Unwrapping and Slicing
20:01 Taste Test - And the RESULTS

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@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

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@BigWood76 2 ай бұрын

Bbq and brew what a great day! I’ve had to miss the other brew videos, that Spike system looks to work a treat. thanks for the video Al.

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Thanks man. It really is a great combination. But can you imagine having to wait 3-5 weeks to taste a brisket? That IPA is still a week away from drinkable and it’s calling my name!

@davecarlson6836 2 ай бұрын

Great work guys! I thought the KJ would win due to the real wood for smoke and flavor. I'm glad that the Traeger won because I have a Traeger. Thanks for your hard work putting these videos together!!

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

I was with you Dave - but airflow beats wood evidently. Appreciate your support!

@Dranomoly 2 ай бұрын

Put the pellet brisket on the second shelf and a large water pan underneath, when you bump temps, bump all the way to 300 to help render the fat cap, wrap pull and hold when the brisket hits 195. Another great video, I like that you aren't married to any one style.

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Thanks - 2nd shelf and water pan are definitely in my future. You sure about that 300°? That seems a little hot but who knows maybe it's a game changer!

@ashcosmo3854 2 ай бұрын

@@BehindTheFoodTV 100% do a water pan blind test video ! Adding a water pan to my pellet grill makes a world of difference.. just not too close to the probe or chimney

@TechTails 2 ай бұрын

Water pan....what you trying to do...steam your brisket?

@ashcosmo3854 2 ай бұрын

@TechTails Water pan = juicer meat. Smoking sucks all the humidity out of the champer resulting in it being drier.

@allheronocape8372 17 күн бұрын

@@TechTailseveryone uses a water pan in a pellet grill for briskets.

@CoolJay77 2 ай бұрын

Great work. This is the the first time that I see a pellet grill brisket takes the edge over a kamado. The hair going black? LOL

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

lol I was as surprised as you! And BTW go back and look at my community feed - the hair was decided long before this! First video without the red hair comes out 4/19!

@jeffficht2230 2 ай бұрын

I did several cooks with my Yoder pellet vs my kamado. My pelllet won every time for my family tastes. Both are great. But now let’s see stick vs pellet. My Yoder stick wins hands down every time.

@awesomekitesession9734 2 ай бұрын

it is just so easy witrh the pellet grill just set it and forget it.

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

I can’t imagine the Yoder Durango won’t totally own it. But heck this one surprised me so who knows!

@wfodavid 2 ай бұрын

Enjoyed the heck out of this. Both looked so good. You're like fine wine......getting better all the time.....

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Some would say a cheap box of wine……lol! Thanks for the kind words David!

@pacman_17 2 ай бұрын

James has done a lot of brisket experiments in the Kamado. He says the Kamado struggles with bark because it's too efficient and lacks the higher airflow of offset smokers. But still an entertaining video.

@CoolJay77 2 ай бұрын

True, but he also runs it at a higher temperature in order to increase the flow of convection heat.

@SmokingDadBBQ 2 ай бұрын

@@CoolJay77truth

@hcam8260 2 ай бұрын

Great work! Excited to see the second shelf and water pan experiment on Treager.

@VWAlexo 2 ай бұрын

Hey great video guys! I think that cooking it on the top rack like Matt from Meat Church does prevent the bottom of the brisket getting dry/overcooked on pellet smokers. I wonder if cooking it on the bottom vs top rack makes a huge difference, but for sure it makes it a bit safer for overcooking. Keep the great content coming! Alex from Montreal 🇨🇦

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Alex! Next one is definitely going on the 2nd or 3rd rack with a water pan below!

@brian2359 2 ай бұрын

Pretty impressive results for both grills!!

@Lbaez85 2 ай бұрын

I have a Traeger XL and use the goldees method last few brisket. No need for a water pan on a pellet grill. Also, I never spritz my brisket just placed on 225 SS for a few hours over an aluminum pan. Then before bedtime i turn off SS and leave it at 225. In the AM i crank it up to 275 till probed tender. Wrapped in tallow for a few hours rest. I believe the rest is enough for the brisket to act like a sponge and reabsorb the juices so it wont have much dry spots. Next time no water pan, no spritz possibly cook on top rack or place it on top of an aluminum pan with a rack on top. If you contact me i can send you my end results how nice it looked and taste phenomenal.

@grimreeper70 2 ай бұрын

What kind of warmer do you have. Is it like a cvap that has the moisture setting.

@SmokingDadBBQ 2 ай бұрын

Cool experiment Al

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, James. Sorry Team Red wasn't victorious this time!

@MP-po4fp 2 ай бұрын

I bet James can make a better brisket on the KJ then the traeger

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

@@MP-po4fp only if we let my daughter decide the winner!

@Todd.T 2 ай бұрын

I love my offset and have used a vertical bullet tuntil I wore a hole in it as well. It's so windy right now there are garbage cans blowing down the street and it's raining, borderline snow. I'm watching my cook on my Traeger app without a care in the world. If you look at all the OG BBQ shows from back in the day, it's seems only the folks with most expensive rigs didn't have a Traeger in the background. Of course they didn't want to show you that part. Watch some of the Original BBQ Pitmasters and look in the background. When the wind is low it's offset time. If I don't want to lord over it, charcoal basket in the offset.

@BeerforBreakfastFactsforSnacks 2 ай бұрын

New subscriber here. From BRANTFORD Ontario. I subscribed because I'm a huge BBQ guy. And then you talked about making an IPA. Dam. Your channel just got 1000% better since I review beer's. Cheers

@flaviomejia 2 ай бұрын

Both of those looked bomb. I’m a huge fan of the knotty wood pellets (plum, almond, plum/almond, plum Cabernet , almond Cabernet). All are bomb.

@Keith80027 2 ай бұрын

Power to the Death Star! That sure surprised me too. That super smoke is key to what is making the Traeger work. Love your beer making part too. Would love to make beer again, but I am on a carnivore diet now and must resist.

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Is Nick paying you for all this trash talk? LOL. Hey question - I'm keto not carnivore - but I'm thinking about trying to come up with a low-carb beer option to make on the show. Would you try that? Or are you 100% meat?

@Keith80027 2 ай бұрын

I am 100% meat because I lose weight and after living in a hotel and eating out a lot for 2.3 years, I got to lose 30 pounds. I would like to see a low-carb beer. I love dark favor beers and drink on once in a blue moon. Nick you need to pay up now. Love you guys and your presentation of BBQ and other cooks along with Beer! I guess you were finishing off the Stout.@@BehindTheFoodTV

@lancedean5987 2 ай бұрын

Hope your Hazy IPA comes out fantastic, I love a good hazy!

@Mr.Schweetness 2 ай бұрын

Favorite pellets are B&B competition blend. great flavor, burns well and is a fantastic price. I also really like lumberjack, but it is hard to get them in my area.

@michaelnance5236 2 ай бұрын

I whole heatedly agree on the B&B Competition blend.

@michaelnance5236 2 ай бұрын

Good video. I've been putting out amazing briskets (with central TX BBQ being my standard) for some time on my old Camp Chef Woodwind wifi and am glad that the pellet cookers are getting their due respect. The Traeger is a very impressive pellet cooker BUT, can it compete with your Woodwind Pro using the smoke box? Future video?

@k1llerdir 2 ай бұрын

I get a nice bark on big joe series 3 by double indirect and not using the water pan I will how every use a water pan to catch the grease. Also I put 2 12" splits of oak under my charcoal and 4 good sized pecan chunks mixed in charcoal. Right be for I put my deflectors down I put good mesquite chunk. and every 1.5 hours check and lite spray if looks dry and only the dry looking spots.I like run mine at 225F the whole time.

@smokingtarheel3003 2 ай бұрын

I'm amazed at the results. Traeger for the win. I think I'm going to pick up some of that Goldee's rub!

@StitchJones 2 ай бұрын

Both looks amazing, I lean towards the Kamado more. What a solid unit that utilizes heat and insulation. That Traeger is pretty darn impressive as well.

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, Stich. I was expecting the KJ to win too - but I think the airflow of the Traeger just makes a better bark. I'm looking forward to putting it up against the stick burner!

@StitchJones 2 ай бұрын

@@BehindTheFoodTV I'm looking forward to seeing that side by side.

@jacobhogue1312 Ай бұрын

Last year I was sold on getting a campchef woodwind pro, but now that I’m about to buy I’m leaning towards the ironwood XL seeing how everyone is raving over it. What would be your opinion on what’s the best cooking and smoking pellet grill???

@AndreaShink 2 ай бұрын

this was fun to watch and I took notes on how to implement on my KJ. didnt notice you saying you dry-brined overnight or not?? and does the warm water really make a difference? I forgot where I put the rub recipe, but ... turmeric ruins nail color... bummer!

@BobBobSquared 2 ай бұрын

Love your work. I’m looking for a food warmer. Can you provide info or a link for it. Thank you.

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, Bob! I tried a few different warmers, and the one I settled on that provides the most consistent and stable temperatures is this one: amzn.to/3U6ImNq - enjoy!

@williamwilson2624 2 ай бұрын

Nice comparison omparison. They both looked like great briskets.

@jonslyh2742 2 ай бұрын

I don’t use the traeger pellets anymore since I switched to bear mountain. They have a lot better flavor and are way cheaper than the overpriced ones. Any link to your bbq warmer?

@randyshifter 2 ай бұрын

cool results, so now i guess i need to cook on a pellet grill. never tried one. ill never tell anyone i used one tho..ha..ha..

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

LOL I'll never tell Randy! But wait until I do the Traeger vs Offset battle - you might be better off drinking beer and adding splits if you can find the time!

@petethehandyman9185 2 ай бұрын

Pellet grills are where it’s at!

@TheAleShire 6 күн бұрын

Just skip the Traeger. I had a Traeger Timberline and it was a lemon. I cleaned it after every cook, taking good care of it because I spent so much on it. Despite my efforts, it was a fire hazard from day one, not to mention all the other things that broke. I worked with the company for a few months until they said they couldn’t do any more because I was stationed in Japan. They promised to replace the grill once I got stateside. When I did, they told me to get bent.

@dylanconrad6930 2 ай бұрын

Just had my very first Traeger, close to a decade old, die on me and the replacement part costs more than the grill is worth. I think I’m done with pellet grills. I’ll just get a charcoal and temp controller this next go around

@Two_Bit_Smoke Ай бұрын

Since you love experiments so much, I would suggest that you do a video for a novice Kamado user and show them how difficult it is to add charcoal if you don’t put enough charcoal for a long low & slow cook in the KJ, but with a live cook! If you do a video like that, the first video on my channel will be similar, but on a BGE. Are you game?

@BehindTheFoodTV Ай бұрын

lol you would be the only one to watch that. But if you want to do it on a KJ and a BGE come on over I’ve got both in the backyard and you can add the Primo too

@Two_Bit_Smoke Ай бұрын

@@BehindTheFoodTV, hahaha! I bet a lot of people would watch it.

@karenwilson3968 2 ай бұрын

OK..point made. I'm not turning in my Daddys BGE, but im looking to get a 2nd hand Traeger. (P.S. I need to come out and show you how easy it is to make AWESOME meads. Better flavor, better ABV, more flavor profiles 😊) Who's filming if Nick is in front of the camera ⁉️

@tealnexttimebond8859 2 ай бұрын

I really dig ur bar b que vids. But I would venture to say most of us don’t have a warmer. What if we don’t ? Use a yeti ? Idk

@pizzapaul94 2 ай бұрын

Talk about literally eating your words. Glad to see a pellet smoker can still produce great results. Now we just need a comparison with it and an offset.

@BenFeldman-kz7gt 2 ай бұрын

Al, Great test! I think the Traeger is designed to have better airflow than a ceramic cooker. You may be biased by the red color. Paint your Traeger red!😂 So now are you going to test it against your offset? Keep up the great content!👍

@karenwilson3968 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂paint it red ♥️

@CoolJay77 2 ай бұрын

LOL. Oh wait. You have put the cart before the horse. If the offset wins, Al has to paint the offset red.

@jasonpettis4691 2 ай бұрын

Pellets are just tiny logs right?

@StevenSherwin-op5lf 2 ай бұрын

Liked my Traeger but it was not reliable. The auger gets clogged way too often and, if you're doing an overnight cook, you end up throwing away all the meat that sat all night in a stalled grill. I gave my Traeger away and only use my Kamado Joe now. Will never have that issue with a kamado.

@karenwilson3968 2 ай бұрын

I'm going to look at a 2nd hand traeger. Several yo but will smoke 6x more than my LG BGE. Only $200. We'll see

@coolkat6728 2 ай бұрын

That’s wierd. I have used my Traeger a ton over the past 4 years and I have never had the auger clog once.

@ashcosmo3854 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like user error to me. You're supposed to dump the pellets and clear the auger.

@tealnexttimebond8859 2 ай бұрын

This is funny one.

@markfowler5577 2 ай бұрын

Hmmm, Death Star occupying prime KJ spot. Personally this whole pellet thing is blowing my mind! Purist vs convenient technological advances...I need some grilling counseling.

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

It’s crazy right? I mean we will see what happens when we put it up against Boba - I don’t think it will win that battle. But heck I didn’t think it could win this one!

@robbsps5games149 2 ай бұрын

Ain't no saw dust pellet smoker beating a kamado . Or any offset for that matter . They're built for convenience only IMO .

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

Well I haven’t put it against an offset yet (coming soon) but it seems that at least one saw dust pellet smoker has better airflow than a Kamado.

@NelsonWin 2 ай бұрын

The sayings were true, "we are our own critics".

@thomascampbell9880 2 ай бұрын

Why fat side up on two smokers supplying heat from the bottom? Fat side up on my Traeger is never better than the fat down.

@awesomekitesession9734 2 ай бұрын

you should try the kamado from the dutch brand basterd the VX

@invisiblekid99 2 ай бұрын

Never had a brisket better than a pellet? Oh dear.

@BehindTheFoodTV 2 ай бұрын

I have some theories as to why that was true (not sure if you watched that video) - but we'll be filming another one where we use the same techniques on the offset and the pellet head to head - and my theory is that it's the technique that made it so good, but that with the technique the offset will be better. But we'll see!

@praetorxyn 2 ай бұрын

I don't think starting a kamado at 225 is a good idea, as they're so efficient it's no wonder you didn't get good bark that way. With a kamado it's better to cook at 250 or 275 the whole way I'd say. If you want a better kamado cooker, Komodo Kamado is the best there is, but those are not cheap. A 32" Big Bad or 42" Serious Big Bad will supposedly make some of the best barbecue you've ever had in your life. Other kamados are not in the same league in terms of construction, plus they have a cold smoking machine that you can connect to it for a ton more smoke flavor etc., and the coconut and coffee flavored charcoal they sell are supposed to be amazing stuff. Those are basically my dream pits.

@SmokingDadBBQ 2 ай бұрын

With you on avoiding 225 in kamados … team hotter and faster here

@praetorxyn 2 ай бұрын

@@SmokingDadBBQ You’re where I learned that notion from lmao.