FullyLoaded Class 59 Rescues Failed HST Newton Stloe. 2010!!!.wmv
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@justandy33310 жыл бұрын
Wow, thats very impressive. A single 59 with a full load , shoving a also fully laidened High speed passenger train. Hats off to the bloke who suggested doing this. :)
@benconway90103 жыл бұрын
Probably the driver of the 59
@delbennett4534 Жыл бұрын
@@benconway9010 He probably thought its in my way i'll move it
@Stefan_Boerjesson7 ай бұрын
I heared a similar story from a retired train engineer. He got red light for his passenger train and got puzzled. It had never been red light for that amount of time there, at that time of the day. He passed the red light slowly and finally found a stranded cargo train. He hooked one to it, blew the horn for "release the brakes", hoped the cargo train driver understood, and pushed the "wreck" into the next station. That was some 50 - 60 years ago. Nowdays no driver would dare to do like that. The modern seafet system would go ballistic. Too often special adapter couplings are needed nowdays.
@formidable3811 жыл бұрын
The driver of the 59 would hardly know he had the HST on there. The total weight of an HST is an extra 3 and a half of those loaded stone wagons.(357 tons)
@JakeyG-eq1un3 жыл бұрын
@@SionsTrainVideos the comment is a joke on the fact that the driver would barely notice the extra weight
@planesimple86193 жыл бұрын
@@SionsTrainVideos muppet
@kenunderwood86213 жыл бұрын
The length rather than the weight would be a problem, as the drivers are rarely in the middle of a train, I would have thought.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis2 жыл бұрын
@@kenunderwood8621 radios make this easier, as the HST still has a crew on the head end to observe the signals and crossings.
@kenunderwood86212 жыл бұрын
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Cheers bro!
@jayswarrow11964 жыл бұрын
1:34 - that one time, when you're actually better off, waiting for next one :P
@brushhead7 жыл бұрын
Actually I saw something similar once to the north of Chesterfield, a cross country train hauled by 31464 failed with its own six or seven coach train, to be pushed on to Sheffield by 47413 with its own eight coach train...the shit coming out of the duffs roof was something to behold!
@BristolSpotterHD12 жыл бұрын
The 59 is in power pushing the HST which is dead im guessing theres someone in the cab of the hst doing the signals etc
@benconway90103 жыл бұрын
Well you say the HST is dead but it isn't if you look where the exhaust outlets are you can still see the smoke coming out of them oh and you can hear the noise of the HST engines so it's not exactly dead
@exb.r.buckeyeman8453 жыл бұрын
Yes Bristol SpotterHD, the Loco at the rear couples up and provides the power, whilst the driver up front has the brake, Bearing in mine, both Drivers know where they are in relation to the area and road.
@SpudderRail3 жыл бұрын
@@benconway9010 could be a cab failure
@toby0709 жыл бұрын
...Someone give this guy a Hornby model, as a gold plated Oscar-style award to boot. This reminds me so much of the RWS story "Super Rescue", doesn't it much?
@bennickss3 жыл бұрын
There already is a Hornby model of the 59 but unfortunately it hasn’t been retooled for about 20 years or so and has nonfunctional lights on the end
@Zuiderzee-Lives9 жыл бұрын
Yep, sometimes the proper application of a single 139 ton, 3300hp locomotive is all you need for problem solving. A heavily laden locomotive to boot!
@TheAdrew196712 жыл бұрын
when i was a secondman at stratford we had a class 59 in for training and it was put on a load test and well lets just say they needed to get a few fitters to fix the load tester after it
@brianburns72114 жыл бұрын
TheAdrew1967 I can imagine! In North America the class 59 was based on the model SD40-2. That was the locomotive which I learned the trade. They were very reliable, and are still the gold standard of how a locomotive should be designed and constructed.
@InventorZahran3 жыл бұрын
Brian Burns The SD-40's were legendary!
@kingofthepod51692 жыл бұрын
@@InventorZahran *are legendary.
@lloyd97104 жыл бұрын
To be fair a HST breaking down is quite rare
@b.r.buckeyeman4608 жыл бұрын
Unusual for an HST to be a complete failure.
@SionsTrainVideos4 жыл бұрын
yeah it is
@JakeyG-eq1un4 жыл бұрын
FGW ones weren't always the best
@SasukeUchiha-pj1pl3 жыл бұрын
VERY unusual
@xaiano7943 жыл бұрын
The banging is the loco driving over detonators placed as protection for the failed unit.
@billwilliam156510 жыл бұрын
Take note Amtrak...look how easy it is.....if you don't have a loco spare to rescue your many failed units, don't leave your passengers sitting for hours have a freighter rescue us!! LEARN from our British cousins!!!!!
@sockshandle7 жыл бұрын
Bill william they know the issues it's just they haven't the money to fix them also the class 59 from what I can tell is a freighter so why did you say learn ?
@tomlee95347 жыл бұрын
Bill william I think the point was to learn to use freighters to rescue rather than whatever they do instead.
6 жыл бұрын
I think it's a bit more complicated in the us.
@agent_6056 жыл бұрын
Not really. Although the locomotives are owned by different companies in the US, it's still the same in the UK
@MarceloBenoit-trenes6 жыл бұрын
US is bigger than UK...
@TractorSnarl12 жыл бұрын
Ridiculously powerful beasts, the 59s. They may be American but they are pretty impressive. I think the aforementioned record stands at around 11,000 tonnes, but that's for European railways. For one of the acceptance tests, a fully loaded train was stopped on a 1 in 40 incline, the trailing Class 56 and a second 59 were shut down, the rails were greased and a single 59 got the whole damn thing moving! 3,000 tonnes! Got a very clever 'traction control' for want of a better phrase. Scary!
@petechambers99234 ай бұрын
11982t at 6415ft is the euro record. Held by 59005.
@nov301989200812 жыл бұрын
its always great to see hst still in use. im surprised a 59 was allowed or even capable to move a train that long
@brianburns72114 жыл бұрын
I used to work for Burlington Northern. We used to get 3 of the North American SD40-2 locomotives on 17-18,000 ton coal trains. The model which I mentioned was what the class 59 was based from.
@petechambers99234 ай бұрын
A 59/0 hold the record for the heaviest and longest train in Europe, 11982t, 6415ft long. 59005 Kenneth J Painter.
@brianburns72115 жыл бұрын
-2 series EMD locomotives are just plain bulletproof. That’s the best locomotive design ever, and there’s no debating that!
@rearspeaker63642 жыл бұрын
that loco alone has set the standards for servicing and reliability for today's diesel electric locomotives.
@tony26824 жыл бұрын
Built by General Motors Diesel Division at their Canadian plant in London, Ontario in 1990. The four Class 59/1 locomotives owned by Hanson (parent company of the former owners Amey Roadstone Construction) are similar to the Class 59/0 locomotives of Foster Yeoman, the main differences being a revised head light and marker light layout and the fitting of yaw dampers to permit the maximum speed to be increased to 75 mph (121 km/h).
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS7 жыл бұрын
Sure is a rare sight. Fantastic capture
@anthony3424 жыл бұрын
sure is Sir Keith ,,,
@soundseeker6312 жыл бұрын
I think the slight downhill gradient probably helped it a bit. That said there is footage of a loaded 66 rescuing a failed 225 on here too. They might be ugly but the do have a lot of torque!
@bennickss2 жыл бұрын
Now that’s a beast! To start it pulls 30 something stone wagons and a 10-car express train as well, EFFORTLESSLY!
@Danse_Macabre_1258 ай бұрын
Eight coach, the powercars don't count as coaches
@ukloco12 жыл бұрын
@nov3019892008 I believe the Class 59 actually holds the world record in such matters. It has a silly amount of taulk so it can push / pull immense loads.
@petechambers99234 ай бұрын
Maybe not a world record. But 59005 holds the record for the heaviest train in Europe, at 11982t at 6415ft (1.2 miles) long
@turkeygeorge40110 жыл бұрын
to this day simply outrageous! gutted i past this on a hst going oppisite direction around the twerton tunnel area :(
@mr67301Ай бұрын
Looked in my diary, 8th April 2010, 59103 on Avonmouth (Bennetts) to Crawley approx 1500t. Train was 1A27 Bristol - Pad. Total loss of power on the HST from the leading cab but had control of the brake once we coupled up. The 59 was powering. All passengers off at Bath Spa.
@petec258324 күн бұрын
So not exactly a full load then, that's nothing compared to what the 59s often pull out of Merehead. Bennetts siding is quite restrictive on the length of the train if you don't want to block the road crossing.
@neilbolger2679 Жыл бұрын
Great footage. Power of 59 loaded pushing an Intercity 125 like that is awesome. In right place at right time . Great catch
@class56trainsrock624 жыл бұрын
The guy who shoved a HST deserves a medal 🏅
@DevonPixie199112 жыл бұрын
nice to hear three detonators going off, bloody scary being on a passenger train when they go off under your train
@formidable3812 жыл бұрын
A 59 has a higher starting tractive effort than a 60. But since an HST set comes out at 370 tons give or take, its actaully lighter than only 4 of those loaded stone wagons! I do know a driver who works out of Mendip quarry, who took a 59 over Savernake bank with 4'000 tons.
@84Knuckles12 жыл бұрын
You half want ringo star to be narrating "once Hanson had rescued the hst they became the best of friends"
@StuAnderson903 жыл бұрын
I think at the beginning and you mentioned it some "popping' like sounds that's normal... That's just detonators on the track put there by the train crew of the failed train as protection.. it serves to warn the driver of the approaching train there is danger ahead, it also let's everyone around the area that being any train crew or mobile operation managers or fleet that a train is approaching.
@TractorSnarl12 жыл бұрын
@bladesman123 The Class 59s took a lot of planning; the Class 66s were a rushed development of the 59 to replace ageing locomotives owned by EWS
@danmorgan3918 жыл бұрын
Now this is just courage
@vorlonb313 жыл бұрын
A very interesting catch, do you know whatwas wrong with the HST. Just shows how good the old 59's are.
@BristolSpotterHD12 жыл бұрын
@84Knuckles or David Attenborough " Im here in the bushes just outside bath, i cant believe the sight, here we have a fine specimen called Hanson sneaking up on his unsuspecting pray Western.," sorry i was getting carried away then :D
@Awalltv123SouthWestSpotter11 жыл бұрын
A very rare catch indeed. HST failures are rare enough but that is extreme. A like and sub from me.
@roodashtonhall2k813 жыл бұрын
thats one way of testing a 59 put a load of ballast trucks on it and stick a dead hst on it for good measures
@petechambers99234 ай бұрын
Hardly a test. 4000t on the 59, then another 360t for the hst, a 59 holds the record for the heaviest and longest train in Europe at 11982t and 6415ft long, so this one isn't even at half that.
@leonblittle2263 жыл бұрын
When you have a loco that works 4000ton stone trains, pushing an HST set isn't that much of an ask. That said most type5 loco's are the same, the 56s and 60s ripped the couplings out of many a wagon.
@kyle1234817 жыл бұрын
Very nice love seeing unusual move, thanks for sharing - Kyle
@lnerfan44684 жыл бұрын
Impressive stuff there recusing my favourite diesel the class 59s are an amazing beast
@mitchellenginevids11403 жыл бұрын
Super rescue but with out Henry
@class180matt11 жыл бұрын
This shows the amazing power of the class 59
@imaghostbuster3612 жыл бұрын
i tell ya those 59s hav got some power
@DepakoteMeister12 жыл бұрын
So is the 59 now being controlled from the HST cab? Or will there just be a radio or phone link for signals etc?
@SportyMabamba6 жыл бұрын
59 is supplying the driving force and air pressure for the brakes. The HST is not fitted for multiple-working so when being rescued it only has the emergency coupler and airpipes to connect. Presumably the driver of the HST and the 59 were in radio comms to co-ordinate; plus the HST needs someone to acknowledge the AWS/TPWS tones.
@avgfree2112 жыл бұрын
So one track was closed while it was moved?
@davinahockin35366 ай бұрын
Yes! This was the one.I watched!
@matthewlamb394811 жыл бұрын
What a beast pulling all that
@CosmicCoconut9212 жыл бұрын
The power of the 59! Immense
@lloyd97105 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a little push is all you need 😂
@1madaboutguitar12 жыл бұрын
These 59's just dont do red signals... they're very impatient lol
@SionsTrainVideos4 жыл бұрын
the HST failed
@sheba3113 жыл бұрын
Never seen that before,some intresting vids on your channnel cheers for looking in at my little layout regards Tony.
@MetrobusChris5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic I thought she was a 66 then wonder if a 66 could do it well done class 59 🙂
@benconway90103 жыл бұрын
Nope a 66 can no way do what a 59 can do
@exb.r.buckeyeman8453 жыл бұрын
How did the 59 couple to HST, as there’s no buffers, is the draw bar suitable ?
@hksproductions85073 жыл бұрын
They actually have buffers and a draw bars. They are hidden inside of the noise of the engines to make it look more modern
@neilcrawford83032 жыл бұрын
@@hksproductions8507 No they don't. They do not have concealed buffers. The only panel that moves is a small one below the line of the lights. Look up on KZfaq, there's a training video that shows the use of the emergency coupling. The only HSTs to have buffers are those that were for use on the East Coast Main line in the early days of the 91s. They have had the lower skirt removed and the buffers are a permanently exposed feature.
@neilcrawford83032 жыл бұрын
@@hksproductions8507 Watch this video. It's the HST coupling training film. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qc-cdKic29euXY0.html
@neilcrawford83032 жыл бұрын
Watch this HST coupling training film. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qc-cdKic29euXY0.html
@bena1059512 жыл бұрын
These Class 59,JT42CWR or Series 66 are built in London, Ontario. Canada.by General motors EMD division.and they have power of: 3,300 bhp (2,460 kW) They are not built in America.
@sockshandle7 жыл бұрын
hugo benedict they where from what I have spotted on the wiki somewhere in Indiana I think
@DavidJones-wx4im5 жыл бұрын
The 59's were built at the La Grange works in Chicago Illinois. 66's in London Ontario. The last 66's built were conctructed in the USA, Muncie Indiana.
@violinstar5948 Жыл бұрын
The Class 59 is very Powerful indeed
@garethonthetube3 жыл бұрын
Get out of my way little boy!
@honours198010 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia Class 59 and read some of the statistics for this loco. They are monsters!
@brianburns72115 жыл бұрын
honours1980 They are! They are based on the North American General Motors SD40-2 model. I’ve run them extensively in the US and Canada, and they really are impressive.
@sdmedia13233 жыл бұрын
Well. I think we all know the right thing to do. #SuperRescue
@typhoon-7 Жыл бұрын
Class 59 casually adds another 450 tonnes to its consist and carries on.
@yorkshirebarkid12 жыл бұрын
cracking footage,right place at the right time,where did it get taken off with the load in tow,bloody brilliant,look forward to the next rescue move!
@InventorZahran3 жыл бұрын
This HST must've had a serious problem if both power cars aren't working...
@DepakoteMeister12 жыл бұрын
I gathered the 59 was pushing the HST, just wondered whether the 59 was being controlled from it's cab or remotely from the HST.
@SportyMabamba6 жыл бұрын
59 is doing all the controlling, HSTs only have brake pipe connections in the nose as not fitted for multiple working. There'll be a bod in the front HST cab with a radio to co-ordinate as well as acknowledging any AWS/TPWS bells
@DevonPixie199112 жыл бұрын
@Paulsimon8 I can imagine, it was rather interesting to hear the variety of languages that we were all suddenly able to speak!!
@brianburns72114 жыл бұрын
The language was that of a two stroke GM 645E3.
@tpvalley10 жыл бұрын
the banging things r detonators placed on the track to warn of a hazard ahead.
@michellegriffiths56977 жыл бұрын
tpvalley
@Paulsimon812 жыл бұрын
@fiddleandcatz It was rather blue, I rather sheepishly apologised to the people who were directly behind the cab door when I got out to use the SPT - oops lol
@ironcityrailfan84672 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t 59101 involved in an accident at Southall in 1997?
@stephendines19364 жыл бұрын
Wow some power on that loco.
@treeman1013 жыл бұрын
class 59 be like, 'your in the way mate' HST 'sorry i cant do anything class 59 'your in the way.. MATE.
@MyMustang728 ай бұрын
I SEE THE LEADING POWERCAR IS WORKING.
@Aviationfan20224 жыл бұрын
It looked like a class 66 but it has the same body shape as a class 59
@JackTheOfficeWorker3 жыл бұрын
It's true 2 Class 66/59
@benconway90103 жыл бұрын
The 66 was based on the 59 design but the 59 has way more power
@SteamboatWilley11 жыл бұрын
I agree with beeble2003 here; hold the camera more steady please. But anyway... POWERRRRR!!!
@letrainavapeur Жыл бұрын
The 59 only has a very small load on so nowhere near fully loaded, did't break into a sweat with the the HST on the front.
@tony26824 жыл бұрын
And those Hand held Pinions on the traction motors ;)
@fgwHST430096 жыл бұрын
The HST from the front is formed Coaches HGFEDCBA
@thecatwhogotthemilk12 жыл бұрын
Some people are cruel for no reason, there is nothing wrong with your filming at all, just ignore him...
@rog195712 жыл бұрын
very good, quite an amazing site
@Aron271012 жыл бұрын
Great catch!!
@92000313 жыл бұрын
5* wow brillant vid mate
@chriso84852 жыл бұрын
What's the MPG of the 59 here lol?
@rearspeaker63642 жыл бұрын
more like Gallons Per Mile.
@Danse_Macabre_1258 ай бұрын
It's YPG. Yards per gallon.
@stevemoss7703 Жыл бұрын
The only concern id have is the loco coupling up to a passenger train full of passengers if anything went even slightly wrong big problems. The locos ie one at each end would have zero problems doing that there only pushing the train at 10 mph
@s1914 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the capability of the 59 to move such a train is ever in doubt, the working however is unusual for sure
@83537323 жыл бұрын
Is that a full load for the 59? Surely not. Im sure it have seen 59s pull more than that. Just asking?
@benconway90103 жыл бұрын
No I don't think its a full load as so say of a train but they are fully loaded wagon's but yeah I've seen 59s on hell of a lot more wagons and heavier load so yeah not a fully loaded train
6 жыл бұрын
What were those thing at the end?
@SportyMabamba6 жыл бұрын
Multi-purpose Vehicles, used as self-propelled plant by network rail. They are modular so can be equipped for various "missions" on the network eg adhesion duties during times of leaf fall
@Danse_Macabre_1258 ай бұрын
Network Rail MPVs - Windhoff CargoSprinter freight multiple units used for track maintenance
@BristolSpotterHD12 жыл бұрын
pretty much 1 track provided 2 directions
@tom2010906 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much paperwork was involved in the process!
@m3hnl8 жыл бұрын
its called electronic creep control
@Great_WesternTVFan7 жыл бұрын
We're they pushing
@BristolSpotterHD12 жыл бұрын
@1988Scottie why is my filming crap?
@Paulsimon812 жыл бұрын
@fiddleandcatz Even scarrier when you're driving and you crack a set off - Made me shout some rather offensive words in my time doing that! lol
@bmwnasher12 жыл бұрын
Good video .. the filming is ok
@Great_WesternTVFan7 жыл бұрын
Was it for London Paddington
@ps360819 жыл бұрын
Are the HST carriage windows smashed?
@EnterprisingRailFilms9 жыл бұрын
No, they are reflections
@petechambers99234 ай бұрын
Train driver must have moved up from driving an 8 wheeler tipper, they have no patience either 😂
@supafuckinmingster8 жыл бұрын
Impressively powerful.
@wharris3028 жыл бұрын
Well a 59 (59 005) did set the record for heaviest train pulled by a single locomotive years ago it weighed 11,982 tons, and the train was 1600m long (like over 5000ft long)
@supafuckinmingster8 жыл бұрын
Is that a Uk or a world record?
@wharris3028 жыл бұрын
supafuckinmingster in europe
@al66class596 жыл бұрын
Is continental the right word there then?
@MainlyHuman11 жыл бұрын
Anyone got any jump leads?
@LB911199 жыл бұрын
International rescue
@beeble200312 жыл бұрын
I hope this comes across as constructive, rather than critical. "Crap" is harsh but the video's kinda hard to watch in places because you're always zooming in and out and panning left and right. Keep the zooms slow or edit the footage afterwards to remove these disorienting bits. You do a great job with the trains that pass at speed; at other times, it feels more like you're hunting around for something to show us. Find a shot, stick with it for a bit and then edit to cut to the next one.
@Great_WesternTVFan7 жыл бұрын
Did the people on the goods engine were pushing the train
@neilstraincaptures15015 жыл бұрын
Lubdhak Das q1
@bladesman12312 жыл бұрын
@TractorSnarl Then why did they bother making the class 66 from it? why not just order lots of class 59s? as ther are clearly a lot better.
@rearspeaker63642 жыл бұрын
design evolution.
@dashcam2612 жыл бұрын
Maybe they want to bump start the HST
@peterdeutscher14423 жыл бұрын
Wasn't try saving the train for usual with plans new express service better than wasted, hm?? (Oh dear, what these coaches have done spoiled the windows is!!) 😯💔
@Xantec12 жыл бұрын
lucky catch!
@thomaspalmer10195 жыл бұрын
Would a 66 be capable of doing this?
@tgk300xx45 жыл бұрын
Yes, this isn’t actually that impressive. A 60, 56, 66 and also a 70 could also do this.
@benconway90103 жыл бұрын
@@tgk300xx4 no a 56 or 66 could not do this if they both had full load of wagons behind it a 56s tractive effort is 62.000lbs a 66 is some where around 70 to 80.000lbs and a 59 is around 120.000lbs so only a 59 or yes you are correct in saying a 60 and 70 can also do this but not a 56 or 66
@tgk300xx43 жыл бұрын
@@benconway9010 Maybe not a 56, but a 66 and it’s TE is 96,000
@benconway90103 жыл бұрын
@@tgk300xx4 still not more than a 59 tho
@tgk300xx43 жыл бұрын
@@benconway9010 That’s true. A 59 can do it easy as shown. A 66 could also do it but I think it would be a struggle.