As a wise man once told me “Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder”

Guys, if yo girl: - Is quirky - Looks good in green - Comes from York - Wears a bow That's not yo girl, that's *NER ES1*

**Sees thumbnail** **Sees title** *Neville would like to have a talk with you*

I love the Q1. It has that sort of "Quick, we need an 0-6-0 engine," slapped together, industrial look. I'm personally a big fan of that sort of look, so I like it!

People: “Q1 looks like an ugly duckling or a telescopic spy class.” Hit Entertainment: “It looks like a Diesel.”

In my opinion the Q1 is the coolest looking

The underground Ernie engine is the ugliest loco in your collection

I don’t think sentinels are ugly... they are just kinda plain. Nothing overly attractive about them, but not ugly either. They’re just there.

Me: *sees thumbnail* Also me: Poor Neville always getting bullied :(

I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't find the Q1 totally ugly; I actually find them really pretty!

2:14 That black steam engine looks like Neville from Thomas And Friends and Warrick from Thomas and Friends Trainz adventures and i think that loco is not uggly is cool

She maybe ugly but it’s beautiful to me, I love the Q1 she’s a character of a workhorse era!

Poor Neville, gets bullied and almost falls of a bridge, now this 😅

A West Country class is a ugliest locomotive?This makes me cringe XD I love the design of it

Something interesting about the Q1's appearance aside is that Oliver Bulleid once proved how reliable it was by riding on the tender as it was pulling a passenger train, doing 70 MPH. *Backward.* Other than it being a bit of a rough rider and its cylinders popping out the front if it was overclocked, it was an extraordinary engine. When the big 4 merged, this thing ended up getting the power classification of 5F, meaning it was roughly as powerful as an LMS Black 5 and the most powerful 0-6-0 on British Rails ever built. Basically, this means Neville is as strong as Henry.

Funny how almost all of these have a basis inspired into a Thomas character.

I think that these locos arent best described as: ‘ugly’ i feel these are better described as: ‘unique’

The pacers have actually been taken out of service recently.

I blame the Hornby Q1 for getting me hooked to model railways around 3 years ago.

Q1s were also known as coffee pots. As built Bulleid pacifics are gorgeous AND functional. They were designed that way to be able to use carriage washing plants

I actually like the Q1, I’m building one out of Lego at the moment :)

you're wrong at the end there, Pacers are very much on the way out, with the Class 195 & 230 being phased in as replacements.

They did this one dirty with Thomas. (Q1) At least Neville's class worked properly, Thomas' class had too little capacity for fuel for longer runs, had a too long wheel base for tight curves and had weak brakes and wasn't built strong enough for heavier trains.

I actually love the appearance of the Beyer Garratt, 'cause it's so massive und just looks like it has all the power in the world. But i must admit i really like all of those 4-cylinder engines, like the Union Pacific class 4000 or the german BR 96

I came here to see if everyone was as outraged as me regarding the Q1

Can ypu make a MOST WEAKEST ENGINES competion

You know you're doing something right when you have 112 likes and not one dislike. Throughout the last year or so this channel has been something I can always come back to for a nice bit of railway escapism, so thanks!

I personally love the design of the Q1 and Garratt! Although I love strange looking locos in general. Great video!

The Q1 is so beautiful 😍 It has something futuristic retro in it... and it has nice dimensions

Bullied's Leader am I right!

I actually agree with all of these surprisingly. A bit about the pacer...I went on one through the Cowburn tunnel in the Peak District and it was one of the most bumpy, and dangerous rides on a train I have ever been on. Great vid as always.

We're only just getting rid of the Class 142s down here in Devon, they were banned under disabled access regs, but had a reprieve under COVID to provide additional space and got rount the regs by pairing them with Class 150. Used to hate them but they're not too bad on welded track.

me: sees the tumbnail also me: hhmm yeah verry ugly

What about Britain’s most attractive locomotives next maybe?

The design of the Q1, West Country Class, and Garrett always fascinated me; whether I was first introduced to them through either real life (books) or in Thomas and Friends. :)

I really like the Q1 and the West country class because of thomas and friends. They just look so cool to me

In real life the Q1 was a brilliant loco in every way.

Flying Scotsman with wind deflectors be on my list.....I'll get my coat....

The Pacers are essentially a Leyland metro bus on rail wheels. They were supposed to be a stop-gap measure until something better came along, but they've been jostling their passengers for decades. There's only a handful left in operation in Wales, mercifully due to be withdrawn in May 2021.

OMG 100 THOUSAND SUBSCRIBERS its been an amazing journey ive been watching every video since 50k congratulations on the milestone

No way, the West Country Class is beautiful! It's my favourite loco lol

nnnooooooooo!!!! how could you put a beautiful bullied West Country/ Battle of Britain class in this list, they're my favourite and absolutely beautiful they're amazing. Also could you do a review on the newer bullied pacifics as the colour on hornby's newer ones seems to be much better and would be nice to see a more modern review on it as you haven't for a good few years now

Spam Cans are not ugly and when you have travelled behind "Tangmere" flat out storming Wellington Bank at White Ball Somerset you would know why. Difficult to pull away from a standing start they took a lot of practice to stop slipping. Further into the sixties before final demise they broke100mph on several occasions Bournemouth to Waterloo! Well Done Sam still keeping our spirits up!

the pacer was made as a temporary replacement to older DMUs, therefore used many bus parts including the engine and were not meant to be used more than 20 years (with new 90s british DMUs) but after privatization, many were still in use and plans to get rid of them were dismissed. that is part of the reason why people hate them, is because they were made as cheap as possible and have bad suspension and poor seating as they were not meant to be a long term solution

Legend has it, if you call Thomas ugly, you don't see another day

Sam I believe you forgot one. I think you know who I’m talking about

Most pacers have been fully withdrawn from service now. GWRs pacers had there last of service on 21/12/20 however a few are being preserved and I believe northern have gotten rid of most of there’s now aswell but again some are being preserved. Basically pacers are no more although I believe TFW still have some but not sure

An interesting observation: LNER also has a Q1 (I mean the Ivatt one inherited from GNR, not the Thompson Q1 tank) and it has a 0-8-0 wheel arrangement similar to the G2A. It looks quite unbalanced like the G2A, but overall it looks much better.

The Fell, is truly ugly.

some of them are ugly... BUT in a good way!

G2A Not easy to steam, Pete Waterman is a good source on how to drive it. My mentor the much missed Harry Soucester (LNWR) Driver would drive these locos on the legendary triangle freights - Bescot (Walsall) - Sheffield - Manchester - Home. Powerful and efficient, this was the reason they lasted to the end of steam.

17:15 THAT'S A 142! 141 was two leyland buses glued together 142 was still a leyland bus at heart 143 & 144 were inspired by leyland buses All of them also share design roots with the APT with the high speed freight vehicle.

It’s a loaf of garlic bread on wheels haha

The Pacer family (classes 140, 141, 142, 143 & 144) were developed from an Austerity drive to fill the gap for the "80's", with an intended life of 20 years (actually over 40)... the basic mechanicals were British Leyland, the bodies on the 140, 141 and 142 were by Leyland National... if you find the LEV1 prototype, you can see the similarity to their buses. In Victoria (Australia) there were the "Walker Railmotors", with an intended life of 20 years, and they lasted until the closure of their lines... essentially the near identical 102Hp and 153Hp units and the larger 280Hp, the former being an "engine" and a "carriage" with a semi-permanent articulation, the later having the "engine" amidships between two "carriages"

Hi Sam. Its been a while since your last running session and it's good to see another one. I like this idea of ugly locos. I think they are all beautiful except that Sentinel oh and the pacer it's ok. Thanks

Hey @Sam’s Trains the Garrett would normally run water tank first but you can run them tender first

i think all pacers are withdrawn now all northern 142s and 144s are retired and some already on heritage railways, some have been scrapped last year am not sure if there are any still left in south wales or devon but i dont think theyl be running for long if they are.

Oliver Bullied spent a lot of time in France before becoming the CMcE of the Southern Region. The Q1 is one of my favourite steam loco (along with Stannier's Black Five). It is a shame that only one of the class made it into preservation.

Great video Sam, RE: the pacers, I believe most are retired now or in storage with Transport for Wales being the only company still actively running them. Apparently TFW also have plans to scrap them in early 2021 - this was mainly due to their poor quality and not meeting the accessibility regulations for disabled folk. Most were replaced by the class 195’s - I believe they all plan to be fully retired by Mid 2021 however the pandemic has slowed this down. I was wondering if you still do repairs on locos, as I have a Hornby class 08 with a terrible screeching like you mentioned on the Sentinel - it runs really slowly and I have fully taken it apart, cleaned and re-lubricated with no joy. It ran fine only 6 months ago!

Very nice running session Sam! I am actually quite a fan of the 'spam cans' (WC Bullied Light Pacifics) but I have to admit they aren't the most glamorous of them all. The less said about the Q1 the better, but I think they look horrific! Maybe, although I love the GWR, a 56xx could qualify for this video too. Keep enjoying the railway and bringing us these quirky videos, regards, Dan

I like the Q1s, I spotted eleven of them in the early '60s. I always liked the West Countries / Battle of Britains, and spotted a majority of them including 34067 Tangmere. Most people regard a high running plate as ugly, notably the 77000-77019 standard class, the 43000-43161 Ivatt Moguls (dubbed "Flying Pigs") and the two Black Fives built this way, 44686 and 44687.

My opinions on the steam locomotives: Southern Railway Q1: Ugly, yet powerful Sentinel: Very cute LNER Garrett: Unusual but looks bad-butt in white (also, you drived it backwards) Southern Railway West Country Class: I'm in love G2A: Interesting Pacer: Good design, but hideous paint job

Hi Sam, I know what you mean about “looks aren’t everything”. Some of my favourite engines are real lookers, the very pinnacle of aesthetic beauty. Take my favourite ‘real’ engine Witherslack Hall (or “the other woman” as I jokingly refer to her when I speak to the missus 😜): absolutely wonderfully balanced design, makes my heart flutter a little whenever I crack eyes on her. Yet another favourite is the M&GN stalwart the Ivatt 4MT Flying Pig. The one remaining survivor 43106 is, let’s face it, a bit of a dogs dinner. But by crikey, what a fabulously characterful beastie! Same for the Dub-Dee war department locos. And many of the industrial engines are fat, dumpy and awkward, but that is what makes them lovable surely? 😜 Cheers Sam, good stuff as ever 🍻👍

Great running session. Probably the best word to use to describe those trains is 'functional'. Just a thought but one type that could have been on that list were the War Department Austerity 2-8-0 and 2-10-0 (I don't know if you have any of these in your collection). Again, 'functional' is the best descriptive word.

Awesome video sam and i'm okay with the Q1 class,west county class and G2A.

When I was a little kid my dad would take me on trains rids and for some unknown reason it was always a pacer, and because I couldn't see its wheels I always thought it had bogies so you can imagine my surprise when each unit had only 4 wheels.

My first model train just arrived. James is still in the box but I'll pick him up from mum's house in 2 hours. I'm so happy and thank you Sam for the reviews and everything.

Hi Sam'strains, I actually love some these locos especially the southern railway Q1s and the Bullied pacifics in their original shape. I don't think there can be an ugly locomotive, but unique, yes. What could be ugly is maybe their performance but even that can be seen as quirks or unique characteristics. Can't wait to see the next review or video😄.

I’ve tried three times now, and I can’t make it passed the first couple of minutes of the video. I love the look of the Q1... So pragmatic, rugged, and in proportion... it’s beyond my comprehension that anyone can dislike its look.

Great to see the turntable being used - nice changeup to the setup of the video.

Thanks for starting the streams earlier in the day. I may be able to watch live. :)

Hi Sam, Great Video. The Q1. I saw these working in the early 60’s when I was able to gravitate to the Southern Region. Oh my God! could these locomotives pull. For an 0-6-0 they were really strong (the most powerful British 0-6-0). They were rated at 5F and were much more capable than that. Not surprising when the boiler design was similar to the Lord Nelsons! At only 90 tons they could work over most of the Southern Railways tracks. The looks belie the reality!

Wow some very unusual locomotives in your collection. Keep up the good work!

Pacers were named after the prototype, a rail bus made by Leyland Pacer. The prototype was tested on a purpose built track but the test was unsuccessful due to a large amount of sabotage. It was never really proven but it was widely believed the local bus company had actually sabotage the track as they saw this new rail bus, with the ability to stop anywhere along the line for passengers, as a threat to their business.

A fascinating production Sam, I think I prefer the term characterful rather than Ugly, it's all a matter of taste I suppose. A short story about the Sentinel, they have an upright boiler, which has to be coaled from the top. A young man working one on a preserved Railway in South Wales, singed his eye brows and eye lashes when he lifted the firebox cover to add coal. I thing it's these very different characteristics that gives us so much pleasure, as if they all looked similar, then what a boring world it would be....Bob.

I now know that the New South Wales Railways weren't the only place that had standard gauge Garrett locomotives. Like the LMS, they were ordered in to handle freight trains up steep grades, singlehandedly. Fascinating.

There's a charm to the design to the Q1's in pursuit of a minimal design to save as much as possible made a locomotive that was able to preform its jobs efficiently.

Very interesting video today Sam really enjoyed it and happy birthday hope you had a good day

If I was going for a Saturday's 'shedding' with my mates, we would often head straight to Feltham loco-shed where many of the Q1s were stabled. Due to the chimney they were known as flower-pots. Personally, I never saw them as ugly. Much of the time they were dirty which was a sign of how hard they were worked and the decrease in the number of people who worked in the industry. Austerity was the buzz-word of the forties and the fifties; I reckon Oliver Bulleid and his BoxPok wheels and his sectional boiler cladding was right on the money.

I was commissioned by the publication "World of Trains" to do a full colour illustration of the Southern Railway "Q1" and on completion of my illustration thought.....this locomotive has character and beauty. One of my favourite illustrations.

I have one of the LMS black Garratt locomotives, and it's a pig for derailing at one end, it is one of the first batches, and they are the ones that had issues. Not sure if I'll keep it or trade it in against something 'new' !

One of my favorite engines on sodor is Neville and the Q1 is the same engine so the Q1 is quite Beautiful and also the west county class is a special engine it had a very bad wheel slip problem and it’s also a sodor named Rebecca one of the most hated engines cuz she replaced a old and favorite engine Henry

Good video. The streamlined bullied Pacifics were known as spam cans. I like them. Thanks for sparing us underground Ernie. I like to keep my food down.

Watching this video, if you look at the Bullied Q1 it looks as if your fireman side footsteps on the front of the loco has been bent upwards.... might want to fix that!

Living in Queensland Australia, the Garratts we have here are definitely very beautiful to look at in my eyes. Ours were also built by Beyer Peacock, and were built for streamlining in a way as well.

hi sam love the video,the sentinel is not at the Middleton railway it's at the cholsey Wallingford railway and its in BR black the owner is Peter Mitchell and the loco is called Isebrook keep up the great work

Is your dapol water tower reliable or has it blown up

That Q1 is BEAUTIFUL, OVB at his best when times were hard. The same can be said for the Merchant/BOB classes, they did sterling work given the circumstances

Hi Sam. For me its the crab double chimney they nick named that the ugly duck . In your line up Sam its the sentinel then the Q1 the other two are great. cheers mate beauty is in the eye of the beholder. great video cheers mate. Yes a review of the g2 please I have one myself I haven't ran yet got it when it first came out .

I honestly love the Q1. Never really thought it was ugly. Just a good ol' work horse. Probably the definition of "less is more".

The Q1 is my favourite too. A real beast. Absolutely massive power-to-weight ratio. So much so in fact that the only downside to the Q1 was that all the power could never be put down on the track unless at speed. Too much regulator at low speeds and she'd burn holes in the rail from wheel slip.

That Pacer model is actually a Class 142, not a 144. Also, the 142 units (as well as the 143s and 144s) have all recently been retired due to lack of compliance with new disability legislation (at least, that's what I've heard). Northern's Pacers have been replaced by new CAF-built Class 195s, but I'm not sure what's replacing the Welsh 142s and Great Western 143s.

Plym Valley Railway just got hold of a pacer recently I don't know when they got it or where it is staying or is just being stored for a short period of time

Lol....true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The Q1 is very basic as it had minimal bodywork for ease of maintenance during war time. In my opinion, they are all fine looking locos as they have their own individual charm. Great vid Sam. Totally enjoyed it. Very informative. Cheers mate.

Hi Sam could you please review a Hornby super detailed Pullman coach please, thanks!

I wonder if Hornby still has the tooling for the Lima series 103? It would work well as a budget EMU.

Good one! Here’s a silly and probably impossible idea (challenge?) for a running session. The Rocket double heading with the Garrett?

Merry Christmas Sam. 🎄

Great video Sam, really enjoyed it. I'm a Midland man but I love all engines and consider the Q1 a 'beauty' albeit in an unconventional sense. I know this loco isn't in model form yet, but what are your thoughts on the Midland Lickey banker 'Big Bertha?' :)

well, I love them! I love 0-4-0, 0-6-0 and 0-8-0 engines! Belgium had a lot like these as well, and also for passenger trains.