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How did we end up from missing the game for so long to having 2 at the same time😵‍💫

I recorded this video a few days before OP and Pred made significant updates to some things but thats just how it goes sometimes. Also, lost some gameplay for 30 seconds near the 22 minute mark (whoops). Good to be back!

I hope both teams will find a way to work together, that would be really cool

I personally enjoy more Overprime but will be supporting Predecessor too since they are a small but dedicated team who used to love paragon and I used to watch the champ all the time

So to correct it for Overprime: You receive ingame currency by playing games. There is a bonus time on Friday-Sunday where it's boosted. And on the 14th December they have been giving you 11 heros + 5 extra heros for login in (1 per day)

Glad to visit ur channel again. Im hooked with Predecesor at the moment and its awesome. Team Kallari representing 🏋🏾‍♂️🏋🏾‍♂️

So perfect how you was talking how fast are some abilities in Overprime and in that exact moment (20:18) Murdock do an insta-ultimate, like if it were the shotgun ability xD The perfect timing

I want a polished, smooth game, of MOBA genre, that forces me to get good, but also use my brain, so 100% Predecessor!

Great stuff! Glad to see you're still pumping out that good content :)

Overprime is a cool moba but just that, I wished they made there own assets, and definitely not putting Paragon in there title. Predecessor is clearly the Paragon 2, they did a perfect job capturing the Paragon gameplay feeling

For most ppl, myself include, it comes down to one thing……which game is gonna get their shit together and release a console version first. That’s gonna bring in the most money

Great video. Pred just dropped for PS5 and me and my friends LOVE IT

I don’t even think this is a question when Predecessor is a game and the other is a data miner.

One thing you failed to mention was Overprime give you 5 heroes for free, and have 11 more gifted to you over the Xmas period. You can also earn currency just by playing games, it's not locked behind the quests at all anymore. Also, whilst Overprime may feel to you that it incentivises fighting more, the moba aspects are still extremely important. If you group early and try to fight to often, whilst the other team farms and lanes properly, the moba-team will pull ahead of the fight-oriented-team in levels and gold. The main difference with Overprime is that ganks from the jungler happen earlier and more frequently. Grouping up still tends to mainly happen at normal times where pushing an objective is the goal. I think the people calling it a "hero brawler" are doing it a massive disservice.

Good to see you man. It’s been a long time

wow the info you put down had me shock. good research subscribing !

You do get free currency now for playing games in OverPrime

Those damn invisible walls scare the hell out of me when Khaimera jumps on me going OOOGA BOOOGA! Then I die as a sad little gadget

PS5 player here… I can’t wait.

very unbiased, good ob. I enjoy overprime because of its action packed matches and constant team fights. there are good reasons for me to play both but my monkey brain turns on when i get 70 stacks on my q as severog and can no longer die.

Predecessor, not only because I prefer the more traditional MOBA feel, but I really in believe Omeda in the long term. They really seem to be passionate about this game. I do not trust some random mobile gaming company that bought the rights and have already started to show some “questionable” monetization tactics. After the recent shitshow that has been Overwatch2 and my supreme disappointment in Blizzard, I really need to believe in the developer, and Omeda just gives me that feeling right now.

Maidenless 😂 keep up the great vids man, hoping to see more!

Just new to this game. Between these 2 games, who are the more characters? And who characters of Predecessor are not in the Overprime. And vise versa. Please give me the list. Just can't find it on google.

What graphic card do y’all recommend for this game ?

ranked games in overprime is very different in quick battle. its intense and a real ranked game. no hero duplicate, hero banning, hero picking strategy. it really feels a real ranked game. while quick play is just for practice game.

Overprime feels like the nba jam version of paragon and predecessor is more like nba 2k... predecessor ftw for me

How do they do on older hardware like 1050 TI i7 3330 ? Like FPS wise etc. Performance is also a factor

I really enjoy Paragon. I ll try Predecessor when its on console. But for now I keep playing ranked mode Paragon.

Good video man

in paragon we were supposed to get the bear named 'boris'? I've seen it on paragon wikis and such. will either of these games add that character?

I’m assuming this code video was done before the patch

Are either of these games for new gen consoles??

Lets go these guys behind predecessor are legendary

I find it interesting i see so many comments supporting Predecessor but the game itself is lagging tremendously rn in terms of a player population. If people are enjoying it so much then how is the player count only a few thousand and OP is hitting 20k? Not biased but its weird.

How did you get banned from twitter

I plan on picking up predecessor in February when ShinBae is released, unless they absolutely mutilate her kit

I honestly don't know how I feel about the addition of custom characters. I feel like the should focus on getting the older characters out at a faster clip

Nice video bro

Do you know anything about their SBMM?

Will it come to geforce now ?

Something very important: i am brazillian and there is NO SOUTH AMERICA SERVERS in predecessor. Overprime has, playing with 30 ping has a biiigggg difference from playing 190. So latino friends have that in mind.

Been waiting for yrs to see paragon back on console. We need this back already 😭😭

yea im thinking about buying predecessor.. simply because it looks more tactical than overprime.. overprime doesnt feel like a moba at all.. its just fighting all the time i also like dota more than league of legends because of this.. because dota is more tactical will see how predecessor is soon

Good to see you again britik. Would you be willing to do a weekly news segment? Mangoose's podcast is too much bitching to slog through just to get news at this point, and I'll jump to any alternative I can get.

Thanks for the review i agree with you i try them both and over feel like arena more than moba game

Ah you forgot to mention a very important thing about Overprime. If you don't play on EU or US servers, your queue time on average is gonna be 2 hours. Even if you live in Asia the ping might be 12 ms but in a moment can change to 999ms at the drop of a hat, Asia SE was very stable constantly around 70ms before yesterday, now it's the high 900s all the time same with Asia NE. Hong Kong and Middle east basically have no players online at any given time.

im extremely lost are these games made by the sdame people?

I hate microtransactions. Thank you for the video, it answered so many questions I had. I LOVED original Paragon. I don't think I'll come back to it though if it means spending $100's of dollars. And this time if they cancel it, I'll never get it back lol.

why can't these 2 studio comes together and make the game together?

You may be broke and maidenless but well always love you britik

Hey Britik, big fan here. Great sums up of the games and great presentation as always. I love watching your video but I am not on twich, could you maybe upload some of your game on youtube please. I think they will do well on here. thank you.

I wish Overprime would switch up and use different assets. It's so different from Paragon it could be it's own game and succeed

I like overprime but I can see the longevity in predecessor. And it’s because of that I’m mainly waiting on characters that i used to play. Once they drop shinbi I’ll be playing for real.

Predecessor should've gotten the paragon license and logo, overprime looks weird, sorta like a Frankenstein of paragon

Overprime has more characters, skins, etc. but Predecessor is the better game IMO

All I want to know is when the game is coming to consoles

How am I literally only hearing about OP today yet it was under development for longer time than pred?

Gave both a try and found myself enjoy pred a lot more. Im sure we’ll match up again soon my dude

Happy to see regular videos again! Pred is winning in my opinion!!!!

currently playing overprime because it's free, ill wait more for the predecessor to be updated and buy it.

Is predecessor free to play?

i see hunt showdown on the dash, a man of taste

Hi there, I've discovered this channel today, when I also discovered utterly randomly that Paragon was revived ! I went on the Epic Store to see the free games of the week and.. oh why on earth is it written "Paragon" on my front page ? Yep, I saw the thumbnail of Paragon: The OverPrime, saw it was released on 6th December, and a few minutes later discovered that there have been a tons of Paragon-like projects since the death of the so-called masterpiece (imho). And well, during my research, I found your channel ! (by the way, I've also watched several of your videos talking about Warframe, in the meantime, cuz "why not", it was right there) So basically, if I got everything straight : today there are 2 known projects still ongoing around a Paragon revival/sequel/remake (or whatever you want to call it). => Predecessor : with big names of previous team working on original Paragon and trying to be as close as possible to the original. => OverPrime : having the legal and official agreement to use the Paragon name, but with some kind of money-interested company in the shadows, and quite different from original. (and some third one called "Core", but that ended up going in another direction, rather than make a copy of Paragon and that either disappeared in utter dust, either is still developping their sh*t in a very silent way (and good serves them). Here's my introduction and question then : I'm an old player of Paragon, I played in 2016, and I absolutely loved the game. BUT, my computer at the time didn't let me continue my journey and decided to burn (silly him), so I basically never landed a foot on Monolith (only saw videos and streams of it), nor did I play all the cool extra heroes that have been released.. Basically, if my memory is correct, I had to stop to play when Iggy was released (or maybe it was Silvarog ? Whoever was the newest between them). Huge FengMao main, I loved the Legacy jungle and Harvest system. I didn't have the chance to try the new system in Monolith as I said, so I can't tell if I would be at ease with it, but I can tell that Legacy was my love mistress. => So, which game between OverPrime and Predecessor would fit my experience the most, do you think ? Really happy Paragon got so much love it has been revived (or tried to be revived) multiple times. A lot of games I love and founded in early access died without that chance (rip Battlerite and Pagan Online, besides others).

"If you snort a whole bunch of cocaine and take speed at the same time" So what you're saying, you're gonna have a whole lotta fun and very fast, but it'll kill you. Like, really fast too.

$7 per hero? Not saying it’s better but Smite has almost if not over 100 gods and you can get all of them plus any new ones being released indefinitely for $30

Can’t wait for predecessor to come to console get paragon back

i really would like that this 2 game survive and get a lot of players because i love both of them, the only negative point that i could tell about Overprime is the none support of controller for now. i hope it will change soon.

Pred Easy. Travel mode never appealed to me

That desktop tho (in the end) 😶 😬

why no same thing happen to unreal tournament. or community is just ded

Not a fan of OP not having a way to earn in game currency while playing. Daily and weekly goals are fine but why wouldn't you earn some gold just for playing that seems like a way to ensure more people pay the 10 or 30 for the heroes instead of playing to unlock them

I love Pred, overtime just feels like a mobile game money grab.

I just want to play as wukong in Predecessor

I have not checked out predecessor yet. I just got into overprime. I have to agree with the fast pace aggro feel. It's not what I remember from paragon. I do miss the grind. I'm gonna have to check out predecessor before I can have any real opinion tho.

I liked the card system this new one looks confusing I played on my ps4 so I don’t really play mobas I think that’s what you call them paragon was my first moba and really like the cards made it easy for me

There is a level of input buffer in Pred. It may just not be active during all abilities? You can see it in action when you use jump pads While in mid-air (closer to landing, but still obviously in the air) you can use pretty much any ability and it will cast it upon landing. I've also been able to buffer abilities on some characters. I've seen people suggest it as bugs actually, where you can be in something like Gideon ult and use his portal while still locked in ult, and it will instantly cast it upon finishing ult. Might need further testing, but it is definitely there in some capacity.

But Predecessor have Riktor 😩 hopefully OP having that soon

Paragon The Over Prime feels much more like OG legacy/travel mode/Prime Orb dunk/ than Predecessor. I quit playing when Epic removed travel mode and brought in Monolith. Pred is basically that game that I didn't like.

i wish they make predecessor free in the future not like now that it is mandatory to buy the bundle before playing they can make it like in league that there is a bundle that you can buy if you want and implement expensive skins and make the champions purchasable by grinding or cash shops and implementing battle pass every season if budget is their issue cause all of those things can make a lot of money for them just make the game more accesible for everyone and make their players also interested and happy enough to buy what ever that they are selling

Lol I genuinely want both games to succeed and pressure each other to keep performing at the top of their game

I'm gonna be real I haven't tried predecessor but I see alot of issues with over prime so far. 1.) Too much magic pen and armor pen the numbers are just too high and the items have passive along with those massive numbers. 2.) 2 relates to number 1 with the pen making it so there are no true tanks. It doesn't matter if it's a severog or a grux or steel their is no one late game that is truly "tanky" due to the pen. 3.) Roles are all over the place. people just go whatever character in whatever lane in overprime. 4.) Movements over the top 100% the sprinting is just fine but you cannot have summoner spells like flash with movement like this it doesn't punish a character properly for being pushed up too far or getting caught out especially when 90% of Champs have a dash already in their kit. Flash--->Dash = under turret or flash--->Dash = teleporter 5.) The teleporters and just stupid all-around. movements already in a good position the addition of flash and tps around the map is nothing shy of aids.. 90% of the time teleporters are used for running away and not ganking. It is the go-to for any laner caught In a gank in solo lane. 6.) Roles are so messed up an adc or magic dealer without any help can 1v1 a full fledged tank.

Rip Paragon the overprime 2022-2022

Great video. I'm definitely waiting for predecessor on console. If I wanted to play a hero brawler arena, I'd play Overwatch, which already is a great game. I want to play a 3d moba, which is why I'll be playing predecessor

Overprime biggest minus as of right now is in ranked your lane is given random, you cant play the heroes you want, the only reason i stopped playing it

Maybe it's just me, but having dropped 100 hours into Overprime at this point, I can't say I entirely agree with the idea of games being a lot more fast paced. Things definitely have the opportunity to ramp up a lot faster, but 9 times out of 10 unless I'm playing with or against premades, it doesn't really work out like that. I spend the first 10 minutes of the game just killing t-ons or poking my counterpart, and if the game goes on longer than 15-20 minutes, I tend to do that for even longer. The game HEAVILY rewards grinding t-ons because of the sheer difference that levels make in the game. I've played matches where someone was going like 15-0 by 20 minutes and were lower level than me and evenly matched with my gear with maybe 4 or 5 kills and 1 or 2 deaths myself because of the fact that I had the advantage of creep score. Farming is definitely still there. I will note, I didn't play much of og Paragon because my internet and PC were too crap at the time to play it, and I haven't really played much of Predecessor at all. However, that's just my point of view on it. The matches sit somewhere in pace between Smite and LoL imo, not horribly quick and most good games that don't result in surrender are 35-45 minutes and not too slow to a point that they end up lasting 45-60 minutes.

Boils down to: Predecessor: action MOBA Overprime: ACTION moba I'll personally be sticking with Predecessor as it is just my preference. I feel like Pred rewards macro more over micro, which I like, but to each their own.

I want to like one of these games. But I tried over prime and the que time was basically N/A and I gave up and went back to smite. Like any pvp game, you need players to succeed. I'd like to try predecessor but I mean.. If overprime, being free, has no player base... Wtf can I expect from a predecessor que time?

I like predecessor more cuz they got the map from paragon, feels more like it

I just want a viable full tank moba

The only thing I disliked about Paragon was the fact that it's a MOBA. And Overprime fixes just that! I'm having so much fun.

Ad was top tier

21:16 I believe “ability queueing” is also known as a “buffer system”. (Not correcting, just adding/mentioning)

Dude you dont need to brag about the bank. Jesus

I just wanna know if and when Zinx will be added to either of these games; I miss the Caster Bruiser Catto. She was a lot of fun to play.

i might of got drunk and bougthtg the 80$ predecessors pack.... i liked the paragon game witth all its jank lol..mostly cuzi was bord of otgher mobas..... i will updated this once i put 15+ hrs in and sober lol

what ever company releases there game into console will be the winner

I agree with you on 95% of the things 👍🏼, the OP thing of focusing in more team fights than laning in his game is a thing that korean players like most. In League of Legends players from the korean server like to play aggressive and they are looking for fights so often, even in early game. I prefer the classic Moba experience so my preference is Predecessor but both games are good in their respective form of unique gameplay.

When I think Paragon at its peak for me I think of Agora and those fun team fights and then the victor pushes the lane. I remember my only complaint with agora being I dont want one game to be over an hour. I think overprime is right where I want it to be- its fun- I dont feel too invested, and imo getting an enemy kill is the best feeling -not pushing a tower.

I’m loving Overprime. Honestly with all the support for Predecessor being massive, I’m disappointed in how slow they intend to update and release things to their game. That alone tends to throw me off