British Airways Boeing 777 was evacuated at Bermuda airport after email with bomb threat. Real ATC

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THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
05-MAY-2024. A British Airways Boeing 777-200 (B772), registration G-VIIN, performing flight BAW18B / BA158 from Hamilton Bermuda International Airport (Bermuda) to London Heathrow Airport (United Kingdom) just before takeoff was instructed by the air traffic controller that they received the information regarding a bomb threat. The airplane vacated the runway on isolated area and about 1 hour later was evacuated.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Description of situation
00:17 British Airways Boeing 777-200 gets takeoff clearance
00:37 Air traffic controller cancels takeoff clearance. Bomb threat
02:18 The airplane vacates the runway on isolated area. They are waiting for stairs
09:11 The stairs are on the way
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@SimonLant
@SimonLant 25 күн бұрын
As a Brit, i know we have patience in bucket loads, but my god that Pilot was super patient given the circumstances. Frustration all round. "20 minutes on the stairs" would have just been my last red flag.
@batshevanivylerner8582
@batshevanivylerner8582 24 күн бұрын
You can hear the resignation in his voice as it plays out. I can imagine what he was thinking and what he actually wanted to say to these incompetents (even with the terminal evacuation, this was completely unacceptable).
@AlexEwan1
@AlexEwan1 24 күн бұрын
Agreed. How an airport doesn't have an agreed upon procedure, involving evacuating the plane ASAP, for such a scenario is mind boggling. Sounded like they were working it out as they went along. If I were the captain I'd have been evacuating much sooner, probably as soon as the plane was off the active runway or as soon as it became apparent air stairs would take some time to arrive.
@biggadon
@biggadon 24 күн бұрын
This a teachable moment for Bermuda, the emergency protocols have to be updated NOW. Kudos to the ATC she did a great job, she isn't in control of the emergency services or whom ever drives the stairs. She was only the messenger.
@Karenonflute
@Karenonflute 25 күн бұрын
Well, that was a giant CF! That Bermuda airport’s operating authority needs to update its emergency procedures ASAP!
@batshevanivylerner8582
@batshevanivylerner8582 24 күн бұрын
CF is an understatement. Even if they were evacuating the terminal at the same time, this was ridiculous.
@crimson2588
@crimson2588 24 күн бұрын
this guy doesn’t understand how airport operations work…
@henryptung
@henryptung 17 күн бұрын
@@batshevanivylerner8582 It's understandable that critical resources were tied up with the terminal bomb threat, but the real unforgivable point isn't the delay per se, but the lack of time estimates and endless "very soon" responses. The honest answer from operations would have been "unable, bomb squad is currently tied up scanning the airport and we cannot touch your airplane until they're done with it, ETA unknown", and no one had the guts to say that up front. Someone along the chain kept saying "on their way" or "soon" as a white lie, not realizing the damage they were doing.
@philiporeillycork
@philiporeillycork 24 күн бұрын
Excellent to call for May Day by the captain when he wasn't getting the attention he required. Very professionally handled by the BA crew
@YouCanSeeATC
@YouCanSeeATC 24 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@aml1234561
@aml1234561 24 күн бұрын
Disgraceful by airport. Absolutely disgraceful in every respect. A huge pat on the back to the aircraft crew for their patience dealing with exceedingly poor airport response. As a former Captain I am pretty sure I would have popped the slides at the 40 minute mark based on what was happening.
@eswillie
@eswillie 24 күн бұрын
Agreed on the slides, except that there were no personnel on the ground to handle the evacuated passengers. Regardless of the threat to and evacuation of the terminal, there should be enough staff there to handle any situation that arises. Lot of blame to go all around.
@DavidPruitt
@DavidPruitt 24 күн бұрын
Based on what? BA Captain was complaining for 40 minutes. You have no idea what the airport was while he was sitting there making the situation worse.
@tDarKnight
@tDarKnight 24 күн бұрын
@@eswillie "... there should be enough staff there to handle any situation that arises." You probably aren't aware, but the British Airways flight to Heathrow is typically the last outgoing flight of the day at BDA, so most of the airport ops, other than critical, have either already wound down or are in the process of winding down, esp. if the flight is late as it appears it was this time... the only regularly scheduled ops after BA leaves are 3 inbound RONs - AA from MIA, and now two BermudAir from FLL and HPN (assuming none of them cancel/go tech/are delayed - which they frequently are) and they only require minimal handling/processing staff... all to say, the airport typically is in the process of shutting down by the time British is lining up on the active so there is some practical exception to your assertion; and this situation is an WILDLY a-typical for BDA on top of that.
@tDarKnight
@tDarKnight 24 күн бұрын
"Disgraceful" ? Please see my response to @eswillie, there's no need for the histrionics. This was an incredibly a-typical and dynamic occurrence in a WILDLY a-typical location with very practical limitations on resources... all factors considered, I don't know what you think could have been done different, realistically.
@andyb.1026
@andyb.1026 20 күн бұрын
​@eswillie ah the old blame culture 😢
@paulkorpas9988
@paulkorpas9988 25 күн бұрын
I don't think this was as much on ATC as the airport authority... She was working with what she was being told by others. I think she did well given what she was dealing with...the Captain made a call and did what he needed to do, also given his circumstances. They did well with what they had
@batshevanivylerner8582
@batshevanivylerner8582 24 күн бұрын
obviously not ATC, but rather a completely incompetent facility.
@legofreak3204
@legofreak3204 24 күн бұрын
Stand by and please don't explode in the next 40 minutes. Perhaps the airport should revise the protocol again. The stairs are somewhere within easy reach and should be on the way to the plane in a few minutes.
@BlueSkyUp_EU
@BlueSkyUp_EU 25 күн бұрын
The pilots had plenty of motives to be upset by how things were handled. In all fairness, two bomb threats at once make it quite difficult when it comes to coordination and resources allocation.
@MACQ98
@MACQ98 24 күн бұрын
That lady handled it like a CHAMP! So calm, cool & professional. What a star!
@YouCanSeeATC
@YouCanSeeATC 24 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@wendystillman1486
@wendystillman1486 24 күн бұрын
I loved his professionalism despite his frustration. With the volume of air traffic this airport has, sounds like they should update and reconfigure their emergency policies. They did Ok in the long run, but if there were a bomb threat I would not like to sit on a plane for over 40 minutes and just wait to see if it was going to blow up or not while waiting for help.
@Ryan-719
@Ryan-719 25 күн бұрын
This was super frustrating to watch
@TheJimNicholson
@TheJimNicholson 24 күн бұрын
This is not how you manage an active credible threat. The airport authorities handled this abysmally.
@mikes2147
@mikes2147 23 күн бұрын
You evacuate the terminal right away because of a bomb threat, but the airplane that got a bomb threat is told to keep the people on board. Makes no sense.
@BangaloreAviation
@BangaloreAviation 24 күн бұрын
The unpreparedness of Bermuda airport is unimaginable.
@gpslightlock1422
@gpslightlock1422 24 күн бұрын
Surprised cap't didn't use the slides on first information of bomb threat.
@Bl0ckHe1d
@Bl0ckHe1d 24 күн бұрын
Curious to know what the pilots told the passengers the reasoning as to why takeoff was cancelled and sitting idle for eons; dare say they didn’t tell them about a potential bomb on the aircraft otherwise that would have been chaos
@alexandermallett1852
@alexandermallett1852 16 күн бұрын
I guess tech issue?
@user-mr2yw2jt5i
@user-mr2yw2jt5i 23 күн бұрын
Mercy...utter amazed at the pilot and crew's calm nature.
@andydaniel2
@andydaniel2 24 күн бұрын
I get the impression that the poor ATC controller was dealing with the fact that no one at the airport was doing anything. Not sure why fire dept doesn't want to approach a non-burning aircraft, as their job is to approach burning aircraft which are far more dangerous than an emailed bomb threat.
@malahammer
@malahammer 24 күн бұрын
Except evacuating the terminal at the same time.
@tDarKnight
@tDarKnight 24 күн бұрын
Did you miss the part where there was a separate simultaneous bomb threat made to the Terminal... the place from where the on duty airport authorities all operate? At that time of night, up until the threat was acknowledged operations would have been typical and typical operations for BDA have the airport in the process of shutting down aside from critical personnel only for the last 3 inbound RON flights... a cluster f*, sure, but practically an unavoidable one, tbh.
@marcospark2803
@marcospark2803 24 күн бұрын
Because they don't want to be so close to something thast could explode anytime
@edmontoncouple1562
@edmontoncouple1562 12 күн бұрын
@@tDarKnight 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....that airport is a ticking time bomb. run by brainless morons. the ATC is doing her best to communicate with the emergency response team but seems to be it is not existing at all. setting for 1hr inside an aircraft with no intention of sending help is a testament that BA is a F-UP airport
@chenwong1036
@chenwong1036 18 күн бұрын
Is there a part 2? How did it continued? How long was the delay?
@user-cs8ec6zy5m
@user-cs8ec6zy5m 25 күн бұрын
MCO had two engine failures back to back around 2pm
@paddyohenry6428
@paddyohenry6428 24 күн бұрын
Bermuda seems to be a complete clown show!
@FlyingMaxFr
@FlyingMaxFr 24 күн бұрын
Tower probably did the best she could but looks like the rest of the team was already at the bar... In all fairness it might be the first time they had such event, they need to ramp up the response next time
@PHX787
@PHX787 24 күн бұрын
slight correction at 8:45, they said they will assemble the passengers under "the RAF C17"
@YouCanSeeATC
@YouCanSeeATC 24 күн бұрын
Thanks. I didn't get it.
@randal_gibbons
@randal_gibbons 22 күн бұрын
He first said it 30 sec earlier at 8:15
@jayl8818
@jayl8818 24 күн бұрын
utter incompetence!
@collectorguy3919
@collectorguy3919 23 күн бұрын
It's really poor form to email in bomb threats, especially two at once. My advice for the airport is to radically improve junk email filtering, with an auto-responder that requires time-sensitive events like bomb threats to be phoned in to prevent double-booking. Email just isn't appropriate and they have to set firm boundaries with terrorists.
@hj8272
@hj8272 14 күн бұрын
Bermuda is a nice place for vacation. But, please have mercy, incompetence of those people on the ground is staggering.
@russellspear4911
@russellspear4911 24 күн бұрын
Activate the slides that would have forced the situation.
@sneffgabor
@sneffgabor 24 күн бұрын
What might that passenger who was on board be thinking now, having listened to this wonderful ATC communication?
@WilliamViets
@WilliamViets 17 күн бұрын
Shocking levels of apathy and/or disorganization.
@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC
@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC 24 күн бұрын
What a screwed up deal that was! I felt sorry for the crew and the tower operator. Apparently the one person trained in how to drive the stair truck went home or something. With the added bomb threat in the terminal, apparently security forgot all about the plane.
@ElaineBevan-pb8nz
@ElaineBevan-pb8nz 8 күн бұрын
Very proud of my husband (The Captain)
@DanT271
@DanT271 24 күн бұрын
Charlie Foxtrot
@patrickhalsey4000
@patrickhalsey4000 23 күн бұрын
absolutely ridiculous, no excuse for such incompetence!
@TonyTheYouTuba
@TonyTheYouTuba 24 күн бұрын
Painful to listen to, but not sure I can agree with any of the conclusions of other commenters saying X did amazingly and Y was terrible. I think the incident will make an excellent case study. And if fault is to be assigned, it can be mainly at the feet of those that sent the threats in the first place.
@user-microburst
@user-microburst 25 күн бұрын
Classic mess, which is to be expected un most places and the procedures don’t really take into account, so captains have it very difficult to not initiate a full blown evacuation, even if they don’t think the threat is not credible
@fabiobarbosa1539
@fabiobarbosa1539 24 күн бұрын
What a terrible job by the ATC and the airport
@biggadon
@biggadon 24 күн бұрын
the ATC did a helluva job...... the airport protocols are SHYTE .
@eswillie
@eswillie 24 күн бұрын
We love Bermuda, and it's a really laid back place to enjoy at leisure, but this is one of the most clusterf*cked handlings of an emergency that I've ever seen. The pilots were totally professional, but the airport and emergency services support were beyond ridiculous, incompetent, uncoordinated, ineffectual, and posed a serious risk to the passengers on the aircraft. I'm sure this incident will be investigated and discussed for quite a while. One can only hope that the authority for this airport, which handles many international flights, can get it's act together.
@edwardrichardson5567
@edwardrichardson5567 17 күн бұрын
30 years ago Bermuda was laid back.. It's turned into a rat race now..
@user-bc3ho9yv5g
@user-bc3ho9yv5g 25 күн бұрын
That was way over complicated by ATC. Just get the people off the plane..
@msjdb723
@msjdb723 25 күн бұрын
But in fairness to ATC, can they control when these other people do their part?
@Kuchenblech_Mafioso
@Kuchenblech_Mafioso 25 күн бұрын
She's just the messenger. She wont have the ability to make any big decisions
@TheGospelQuartetParadise
@TheGospelQuartetParadise 25 күн бұрын
ATC has procedures they have to follow. The tower supervisor is the one I think who could have controlled the situation better. Bomb threat on an aircraft in takeoff position. Bomb threat on the airport terminal. ACTION - Close the airport, order all inbound aircraft to either hold or divert. Have ATC Taxi speedbird safely away from any aircraft holding for takeoff and remove passengers via emergency slides if no airstairs were immediately available. Evacuating the aircraft immediately was the at the Captain's discretion. I'm sure there will be changes made to emergency preparedness after this.
@VivaMattiee
@VivaMattiee 24 күн бұрын
To be fair it's not made easy with the entire terminal being evacuated
@DavidPruitt
@DavidPruitt 24 күн бұрын
And what and the thousands of people in the airport? The plane has few peopl and, is more difficult to safely evacuate. The airport has a limited set of resources, triage says the plane is a lower priority.
@vermontviking
@vermontviking 24 күн бұрын
It seems that BDA is on "island time".
@user-yi3yx2fn7g
@user-yi3yx2fn7g 25 күн бұрын
A bit miffed that ATC couldn't dedicate their entire attention to the BA flight. The pilots had to remind them time and again which is a bit disappointing. They really should have been all over that plane, I really feel sorry for the pilots who were left in the dark like that.
@TheGospelQuartetParadise
@TheGospelQuartetParadise 25 күн бұрын
Did you miss the point that there was also a bomb threat at the terminal. Certainly they didn't want the aircraft passengers to come to the terminal if the threat had been real. However, the captain should have taxied to the remote area and activated the emergency slides to get the passengers off the aircraft and away from it until the aircraft was deemed safe. I'm sure the buses may have been used to get passengers out of the terminal and on planes boarded already at the gate.
@BlueSkyUp_EU
@BlueSkyUp_EU 25 күн бұрын
​​@@TheGospelQuartetParadise Emergency slides evacuations generally end up with broken bones. Plus no medical assistance and nowhere to go in this particular situation. I bet many of the passengers would have been extremely unhappy in the event of such emergency evacuation.
@user-yi3yx2fn7g
@user-yi3yx2fn7g 25 күн бұрын
@@TheGospelQuartetParadise Uhm no you cannot do just whatever. Emergency slides are very steep in the 777 so people WOULD be injured and the wheelchair people would DEFINITIVELY suffer seriously in that case. Stairs is always the better option. You cannot just evacuate willy nilly in case the threat is for real, maybe the bomber is watching and decides to remote trigger the bomb if he sees buses or whatnot.
@srp01983
@srp01983 24 күн бұрын
@@canadiannomad2330Have you any idea how an emergency slide is attached to an exit and what triggers it? It’s a bit more involved than blowing up an air mattress and sticking it to the door frame with Velcro. Edit - I see you removed your comment. You actually raised an interesting point. Have a look for a channel called Mentour Pilot - he has loads of videos about the operation of planes, and I’m sure he has one about the emergency slides. They are quite complex things, and if triggered accidentally it requires a few hours work by engineers to reinstall them.
@TheGospelQuartetParadise
@TheGospelQuartetParadise 24 күн бұрын
@@user-yi3yx2fn7g Don't know where you get your information from, but I do research... More than 80% of reported injuries due to use of slides during emergency evacuation have been minor injuries. While relatively rare, the most serious evacuation-associated injuries were the result of jumping out of exits or off of wings. Predominant causes of injuries are: Friction from slide surface Impact with the ground at the bottom of the slide Falling forward onto the pavement after reaching bottom of the slide Assisting other passengers with exiting the slide at the bottom Anxiety from evacuation Typical minor Injuries Sprain Scrapes from slides Strain Abrasions Contusion Typical serious Injuries Fractured ankle Broken leg Major Bruises Laceration --- The key point is that an 80% chance of getting off a slide unscathed beats getting blown to bits in a real bomb explosion.
@jctorra1
@jctorra1 24 күн бұрын
Island time.
@ZombieKiller1965
@ZombieKiller1965 13 сағат бұрын
Just another example of the state of the world now. If anything is out of the norm no one has any clue what to do. I swear the world has become completely dysfunctional.
@ronwade2206
@ronwade2206 25 күн бұрын
Lousy plan, two calls though, makes it worse for all concerned still those passengers were safer onboard
@WTurner2286
@WTurner2286 22 күн бұрын
That was a shocking response time from the airport and almost too much of that famous British patience. Lucky there wasn’t a real bomb on board.
@NYCLight
@NYCLight 24 күн бұрын
Island life
@jayl8818
@jayl8818 24 күн бұрын
Why the hell does it take 20 minutes to get stairs.
@jordanrichardson4448
@jordanrichardson4448 10 күн бұрын
because they tend to be towed by EBT's which have a brilliant top speed of 10MPH. and Stairs also tend to have a MAX tow speed of 10MPH. But why there isn't steps there on the incase is a big question
@davidmoser3535
@davidmoser3535 25 күн бұрын
Remind me never to go to Bermuda
@lesivs
@lesivs 24 күн бұрын
A very difficult situation for the BA crew and captain. Do we evacuate or wait? The risks of injuries associated with using the slides, controlling 100s of people on an active airfield without assistance are huge, to say nothing of the wheelchair passengers and children on board. What a decision to be faced with, is this a credible risk of a bomb exploding on board or not??....one stair set and a few ground crew could possibly have managed this situation safely?
@vampire99999
@vampire99999 24 күн бұрын
This pilot was so professional but the ground crew wasn’t impressed with no sense of of urgency for the situation 😮😮😮😮😮😮
@NexieVex
@NexieVex 24 күн бұрын
bomb could have gone off at any time, id have popped the slides fast
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 17 күн бұрын
You’re assuming a bomb existed, which it didn’t.
@garyz0611
@garyz0611 24 күн бұрын
That was complete utter incompetence and pathetic…. it sounded like they were in a Third World country.
@OH-te6wr
@OH-te6wr 24 күн бұрын
Aren't they a Third World Country
@jr637-1
@jr637-1 14 күн бұрын
@@OH-te6wrBermuda is a British territory. So no.
@mimatimas
@mimatimas 22 күн бұрын
They are dealing with a credible bomb threat on a plane with 197 people on board loaded with 50 tons of fuel! It took them more than 40 minutes to get the emergency fire services to the aircraft and an hour to get steps to the aircraft. This is utter and absolute incompetence by the Tower and airport authorities. The controller has no awareness or even common-sense about the potential deadliness of the situation. She and her supervisor should be immediately reassigned to non-critical duties pending an investigation and full review of emergency services and procedures at the airport. The crew of the aircraft should have been vociferous with the Tower and notwithstanding possible injuries from a slide evacuation, evacuated via the slides within 10 minutes rather than continue putting lives at risk.
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 17 күн бұрын
Was it a credible bomb threat?
@mimatimas
@mimatimas 17 күн бұрын
Yes. Listen to the Tower playback.
@bobanob1967
@bobanob1967 23 күн бұрын
Let us hope no terrorists are watching KZfaq!
@Michael_K_Woods
@Michael_K_Woods 25 күн бұрын
Evacuating by slides is a good way for grandma to break a hip and die a week later. Bomb threats are always fake nowadays so you need to weigh that with the injuries passengers will suffer evacuating by slides. I feel for the pilots because they are in a terrible spot. Also, being on an active apron means no passengers can get up from their seats. That’s likely a major consideration the pilots were making.
@TheGospelQuartetParadise
@TheGospelQuartetParadise 25 күн бұрын
So you're saying that bomb threats are always fake nowadays? Hope you're not on the one that turns out to be real. The Tower supervisor should have closed the airport and evacuated the aircraft immediately via slides. You're speculating about granny. There have been no reports lately of anyone suffering serious injuries in a slide evacuation.
@user-cw9qn1nb2n
@user-cw9qn1nb2n 25 күн бұрын
You don't know that bomb threats are always fake nowadays. It's attitudes like that which get people killed. Stop and evacuate ASAP is the only sensible thing to do, which is what the pilots were trying to do, probably fearing for their own lives as well. This was a total fiasco, and could have been an absolute disaster.
@BlueSkyUp_EU
@BlueSkyUp_EU 25 күн бұрын
​@@user-cw9qn1nb2n If the threat is real, whoever controls the bomb will make sure to detonate before evacuation. It won't make any difference whether they'll try to evacuate via slides or steps imo.
@davidmoser3535
@davidmoser3535 25 күн бұрын
NEVER EVER ASSUME A BOMB THREAT IS FAKE, EVER.
@BlueSkyUp_EU
@BlueSkyUp_EU 25 күн бұрын
@@davidmoser3535 Imo people might be kept onboard precisely on the assumption that the threat is real. If the bomber wants a negotiation but sees that they prepare for evacuation before he got to make any demands, he will detonate. The same goes if the bombers have no demands: the moment the door will open for evacuation, they will detonate.
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 12 күн бұрын
Hoax thing: the author of the hoax nerds to be jailed for false alarm
@winikuraitis9801
@winikuraitis9801 25 күн бұрын
Ridiculous! Plane should have been evacuated immediately using the slides. Slides would have been a better alternative.
@Michael_K_Woods
@Michael_K_Woods 25 күн бұрын
Absolutely not. Evacuating by slides causes serious injuries.
@CardboardPhantom
@CardboardPhantom 24 күн бұрын
​@@Michael_K_Woodsas opposed to dying in a fireball. Tis but a scratch, right? Evacuate me by slide all day.
@Michael_K_Woods
@Michael_K_Woods 24 күн бұрын
@@CardboardPhantom your fear of extremely low probability things happening is why the pilots didn’t do that.
@CardboardPhantom
@CardboardPhantom 24 күн бұрын
If it's an extremely low probability maybe they should have continued the flight. If it's worth stopping the flight for, it's worth evacuating immediately for. I would've opened the doors myself if I was onboard and knew what was going on.
@gulthepilot
@gulthepilot 24 күн бұрын
​@@Michael_K_Woodssimple q for u sir,if u knew u were possibly sitting on a bomb in ur car...continue sitting inside or getting out asap and worry later ? Mind you there are 200 ppl behind the captain in this case .
@gulthepilot
@gulthepilot 24 күн бұрын
The captain obviously didnt have the brains to evacuate using the slides as soon as he stopped on the runway...his next cue to evacuate asap was when they discovered the terminal was evacuating as well...i know it gets messy with the slides...but lives saved are more important...period .
@aml1234561
@aml1234561 24 күн бұрын
Only speak when you know what you are talking about. Your remark regarding the Captain is both offensive and ignorant.
@gulthepilot
@gulthepilot 24 күн бұрын
Right...u potentially sit on a bomb with 200 ppl behind u for eternity...another thing...I captain a commercial jet with 200+ ppl for a living...captains talk with the atc for that long shows absolute indecisiveness and fear to deal with the mess of the slides..if ure an airline captain ,( which ure probably not ) ,would u sit that long in the aircraft even if u thought there's just a 1% chance of a bomb being on board sir ? It doesn't take any training manual to tell u to get ur ass out of there asap...hoax or not can be dealt with later...common sense.
@DavidSantos-nx2nc
@DavidSantos-nx2nc 24 күн бұрын
Read the stats: evacuating via slides always causes injuries. Here is an example of a captain making the right call to be patient and understand that rarely a bomb thread is an actual bomb. He waited for the stairs and evacuated all the aircraft with nobody getting a single scratch.
@k1pp256
@k1pp256 24 күн бұрын
@@gulthepilot You're not a airline captain. And evacuating via slides causes injuries, costs thousands to put the slides back in and would mean, aircraft out of service for the next weeks if not months. Put passengers stranded for even longer. Bomb threats rarely ever happen, last one that happened was in 2016 in a third world corrupt country by a terror attack. Bermuda uses security measurements no different from major airports. Bomb threats are rare and when they do happen its most likely a hoax.
@Bungle-UK
@Bungle-UK 24 күн бұрын
@@gulthepilotif the jet you captain on flight sim? I hope so given your attitude.
@DavidPruitt
@DavidPruitt 24 күн бұрын
BA Captain needs to calm the f down. I hope he gets reprimanded. Just like pilots don't want to be bothered constantly in an emergency and don't tell ATC every detail upfront, ATC didn't need to be bothered constantly and won't tell them every detail upfront. They have two bomb threats they're dealing with. Adding a mayday on top of that, requesting the ambulance, and telling everyone to do everything and come to him makes things worse not better. Let the experts in security handle the security. He's got a perfectly functional aircraft that was going to be in the sky for 4 hours, they can handle 40 minutes on the ground. And after that he's got the ballsn to tell them to change the door because he wasn't prepared after doing nothing but complaining for 40 minutes? And he neglected to mention the two wheelchair passengers? The airport was busy dealing with the people in the terminal, the planes on the ground, and the planes still in the air. They have reasons for not evacuating the aircraft immediately and keeping people away. We've been through this before and we've seen what impatience does in a situation like this.
@k1pp256
@k1pp256 24 күн бұрын
They switched the doors because anything past L2 is first class and behind L2 is business/economy. Would make sense to meet in the middle wouldnt it mate?. Dont know what video you're watching but the captain is very calm and following procedure. There is only so much patience you can have when you're told you have a bomb onboard, and then the airport staff decide to take the p*ss and take 20 minutes to attend the aircraft. Just cause it's functional aircraft doesnt mean the bomb threat is rules out. They would've circled back to the airport if the atc told them of the bomb threat anyway. Though the bomb threat was a hoax, and they're unlikely to happen 40 MINUTES on the ground whilst there could be a possible ticking bomb is overkill. Pilots dont typically get told of wheelchair passengers, not like it's really their duty anyway more so the cabin crew who have even less idea of whats happening than the captain themselves. Cannot possibly blame them. The flight was departing at 8pm and was the last departure . There was not many people in the terminal. The pilots ended up waiting for the stairs and had patience so what exactly is your point
@aml1234561
@aml1234561 23 күн бұрын
Definitely watching a very different video to the one I watched. The BA pilot was very calm, professional and precise throughout. I would like to see how you would respond if someone said you might be sitting on a bomb. Very stupid remarks David Pruitt whoever and whatever you may be.
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