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British Railways, steam cranes raising a class 8f locomotive after a shunting accident, 1960's

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John Kirby

John Kirby

Күн бұрын

Two steam breakdown cranes raising a class 8f locomotive after it slipped on a rusty rail while shunting at a Coventry shunting yard and ending up down a bank. Taken round about 1964 on 8mm B&W film.

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@davemitchell9941
@davemitchell9941 Жыл бұрын
Wet rust makes a perfect paste for steel on steel to slide. Seen it happen & had it happen on steam. Always had to be alert & in control. Wheels lock up & unless u’ve got room to release the steam brake (once u’ve woken up)& get the wheels turning again, not a hope of stopping. Once your sliding your accelerating & thas it bang!!! 45T cranes had a good safety factor built in & could lift far more than they were rated at, as they did on numerous occasions. That leading crane was luffed out a fair ol way. Men knew what they were about, cranes were well packed & they’d be watching for any movement. Awesome sight of two drivers working in harmony with a good foreman on the ground & job done.🙂
@philjacques1446
@philjacques1446 7 жыл бұрын
The driver was a man called Mr Osborne. Don't know his first name but he was my best friend's (at the time) father. He worked out of Nuneaton shed (2B at the time) and so this 8F is a Nuneaton allocated locomotive.
@sarahmartiniom
@sarahmartiniom 2 жыл бұрын
Wow great history
@johndavies1090
@johndavies1090 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see these big old cranes at work, with all their tackle and equipment. The cranes themselves are history now - there was still one at Crewe in 1974. The last BR steam working I saw was the Crewe wrecker coming down the Trent Valley mainline behind an 8F at Meadow Lane, Colwich, on its way to the Hixon disaster. The local RAF had sent a lorry mounted crane to help, but the field alongside the track was so water-logged that, even with 6 wheel drive, it boged to the axles.
@glynluff2595
@glynluff2595 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the power of steam! Took my grandson to a museum yesterday I was so old only I knew how a steam engine worked!
@alantraish3368
@alantraish3368 Жыл бұрын
Great footage and the music fits perfectly imo. Thank you
@keithwelton
@keithwelton 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of men with cloth caps and no dayglo clothing, when Britain actually made and did things.
@sarahmartiniom
@sarahmartiniom 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Nastyswimmer
@Nastyswimmer 2 жыл бұрын
Did things - such as derail steam locos :p
@union310
@union310 Жыл бұрын
​@@Nastyswimmer because a diesel never came off the lines?
@adrian.debeauvais5911
@adrian.debeauvais5911 Жыл бұрын
True we made stuff back then plus people had commonsense. Health and safety was everyone's concern and the compo culture didn't exist if some idiot didn't observe the working practices . Incidentally I worked in construction pre hardhat days and men could be seen loitering around under crane jibs lifting heavy gear. A plastic helmet won't stop a girder going through your nut. Having said there was a lookout posted and great care taken during lifts accompanied by some very colourful language. My historical railway has a working steam crane and its a ransomes and Rapier. Cowan Sheldon and cravens made them mostly along with smaller concerns . Very powerful machines and lifting terrific weights that some models of modern cranes could not achieve. Great video. 👍
@RJ1999x
@RJ1999x Жыл бұрын
Fred Dibnah would approve
@pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342
@pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342 Жыл бұрын
with chains and jacks and dirty words they got the dam thing out
@stevef9530
@stevef9530 2 жыл бұрын
Golly that’s some shunting accident. I used to live near Spon End btw 🙂
@johnbeck7019
@johnbeck7019 6 жыл бұрын
Great old footage
@alistairkewish651
@alistairkewish651 2 жыл бұрын
For a while I worked in Document Control and a report came my way. It was all about a derailed emu in the Havant area. They needed a crane to lift everything clear, so one came ****** from Cardiff Canton. The account reads that the operator was reading the manual whilst lifting the rolling stock clear of the running lines. I couldn’t believe my eyes. Unfortunately, it was true.
@Paraffinmeister
@Paraffinmeister 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Interesting to note, the locos identity appears to have been obscured, wonder why?
@PreservationEnthusiast
@PreservationEnthusiast 6 жыл бұрын
48262 was ripped apart for scrap with cutting torches at Cashmores, Great Bridge in Feb 1966.
@kristinajendesen7111
@kristinajendesen7111 6 жыл бұрын
Shame they used a camera from 1870. I wouldn't have guessed that was Spon End. Is it the down, (Butts Stadium) side coming away from Coventry?
@johnkirby8160
@johnkirby8160 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Kris, thanks for your comment. I agree the quality isn't the best, it was taken with an old wind up 8mm camera, everything manual, light wasn't the best and on 400 ASA b&w film. It would have been nice to have had a modern digital job but but what was, was. I don't know anything about the location, I found out where it was from photos on other sights, I left Coventry over 50 years ago and I don't have a good memory. I don't think one would be allowed to go where I went taking those pictures with all the rules and regulations that exist today, I was only told to bugger off when I was just about underneath the loco being lifted otherwise no one said anything. You will find out more on the Historical Coventry sight no doubt. Keep well, cheers, John
@Beatlefan67
@Beatlefan67 Жыл бұрын
Is this one in the series of books 'Trains in Trouble', I wonder?
@shelbythibodeau5506
@shelbythibodeau5506 7 жыл бұрын
Such old footage!
@m18tankdestroyer43
@m18tankdestroyer43 Жыл бұрын
Is this Spon End Coventry?
@johnkirby8160
@johnkirby8160 Жыл бұрын
That is Soon End in Coventry all right
@paulmatthews417
@paulmatthews417 Жыл бұрын
Dai cap safety helmuts and donkey jackets the safety equipment of the day
@terrykelk12
@terrykelk12 7 жыл бұрын
So what is the guy at 0.38 doing, looks like a mobile phone to me
@formidable38
@formidable38 7 жыл бұрын
Dont be daft, that was a bluetooth device.
@robobkerman4922
@robobkerman4922 6 жыл бұрын
Formidable38 time traveller confirmed
@dereklatham6800
@dereklatham6800 6 жыл бұрын
oh he's a time traveller, there's plenty on u-tube
@DaimosZ
@DaimosZ Жыл бұрын
He's talking on a radio
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 7 жыл бұрын
"Slipped on a rusty rail"? Trying to see if we're awake? Try again, and be real.
@johnkirby8160
@johnkirby8160 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jacques, your comment shows that you don't know much about railways. When the rail is rusty, even with a small amount of rust, the wheels do not grip the rail as well and braking is less effective, a bit like driving your car on a wet road, you have to be on the ball. What isn't real about that?
@John900C
@John900C 6 жыл бұрын
That must have been the driver's story.
@robwilde855
@robwilde855 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnkirby8160 Don't know what world you're living in. Not one containing real mechanics and engineering and mechanical science.
@johnkirby8160
@johnkirby8160 4 жыл бұрын
@@robwilde855 Took you a long time to make a comment. As I've said if you know anything about railways you'd know what I'm talking about. Find some old school railwaymen and they'll tell you how such an accident can happen meanwhile just enjoy the video
@supergeorge8603
@supergeorge8603 5 жыл бұрын
Insert Thomas the tank engine breakdown crane theme here
@alistairkewish651
@alistairkewish651 2 жыл бұрын
Not really impressed by the sound track.
@johnkirby8160
@johnkirby8160 2 жыл бұрын
That's easily fixed, turn the sound off
@nataliedonnelly5664
@nataliedonnelly5664 6 жыл бұрын
Oops
@danielferstendig
@danielferstendig 8 жыл бұрын
real life Thomas the tank engine.
@danielferstendig
@danielferstendig 4 жыл бұрын
gordon takes a tumble
@robwilde855
@robwilde855 4 жыл бұрын
Mute the ridiculous added music.
@PacoOtis
@PacoOtis Жыл бұрын
Why the horrible music instead of someone providing some information? Best of luck, but this is a rather awful format!
@johnkirby8160
@johnkirby8160 Жыл бұрын
Just turn the sound down, I would think the pictures supply enough information
@danielferstendig
@danielferstendig 4 жыл бұрын
gordon slid in a ditch. off the rails
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