Broadway Limited SP GS-4 Review: All New Tooling, Paragon4 DCC/DC | BLI Feb 2024 Release! Smoke!

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jlwii2000

4 ай бұрын

Welcome to a comprehensive review of Broadway Limited's latest masterpiece, the SP GS-4 featuring cutting-edge tooling and the advanced Paragon4 DCC/DC system. In this detailed review, we explore the intricate details and performance of this exceptional model, released by Broadway Limited in February 2024. Join us as we delve into the world of model trains and discover what makes the BLI February 2024 Release a game-changer for enthusiasts. Don't miss out on the latest innovations in model railroading - watch our review now! Subscribe for more in-depth reviews and stay updated on the latest releases in the hobby. All aboard for an immersive journey into the world of Broadway Limited's SP GS-4!
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Time stamps:
0:00 Intro/Quick Stats
0:53 Unboxing
5:42 360 Daylight Large Lettering
10:57 360 BNSF Employee Special
13:47 360 Freedom Train
17:38 360 Daylight Small Lettering
19:41 Top View
20:14 Weight
20:55 BLI Car Color Comparison
21:42 Startup/Operation
27:17 Pull Test
28:10 Lighting Features
30:30 Drive Test/Speed Test
32:20 MTH Car Color Comparison
33:32 Added Capacitance Testing
34:49 Recap
37:08 Runbys
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@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry everyone, the screws don't have to be removed to remove the locomotive from the stand. My mistake
@cheryltysver4819
@cheryltysver4819 4 ай бұрын
Consistently the most thorough and among the very best reviewers on the Internet and also one of the nicest and most responsive! Thank you for what you do!
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you! Appreciate it.
@JDTsTrains
@JDTsTrains 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for feedback. This is what I saw on another review as well: especially at turnouts.
@domstrains3984
@domstrains3984 4 ай бұрын
The day broadway makes an accurate pere Marquette 1225, I am gonna buy it in a heartbeat. I love their models
@dvreelandjr
@dvreelandjr 4 ай бұрын
Hi James.. I've waited 20 years to get a SP Daylight. I finally got my 80s to 2000 version to go with my other SP ENGINES. I LOVE THIS MODEL!!I quilled the whistle like it says on pg 28/29. Sounds very cool. Great review, i enjoy all your reviews as i find them very informative and honest. Keep up the great work!!
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
Right on! Glad you like it.
@mccylk4441
@mccylk4441 4 ай бұрын
Now they need to make another run for passenger cars
@roberttrains8696
@roberttrains8696 4 ай бұрын
Good review Mr James that a lot of extra part you get the color looks superb. Tooling on the tender looks great You always do a awesome review on the new product that come out I look forward to more reviews from your channel. Thanks for sharing!!! Robert
@myhiddennameis
@myhiddennameis 4 ай бұрын
I wish I could afford all 4 of these models like you! I got the BNSF one at a great price and still could barely afford it on a payment plan, lol. They are so nice though! I have a Bachmann DCC Sound Value Daylight 4449 (modern) and it doesn't compare to this. Only problem is that I started having issues with my BNSF shorting out very soon into running it.
@eal8645
@eal8645 4 ай бұрын
Nice trains! A nice review. Thank you, James.
@arrow1414
@arrow1414 4 ай бұрын
Three things: The video footage is fine. If you didn't mention that you were using your phone camera and not the stand alone camera I wouldn't have known the difference. What model phone you used? I think the Broadway Daylight orange is darker the the MTH Daylight orange. Caveat: At least with my current picture settings on my TCL smart TV anyway. It was more like nine (9) seconds from the loco being lifted off the track to the stay alive cutting out instead of eight seconds. You held it off the track for a full "1-1,000" before you started counting. So you sold Broadway short!😉
@JamesHunterPhotos
@JamesHunterPhotos 4 ай бұрын
Great review mate.
@jimreynolds7118
@jimreynolds7118 2 ай бұрын
Hi James. I really enjoy your review videos. Could you tell me what smoke fluid you are using? It really gets some good smoke. Thank you very much. Jim.
@benanderson4071
@benanderson4071 4 ай бұрын
Great review!! On the American Freedom Train version of the 4449, they're are a few differences from when it was in that scheme during the bicentennial and when it was repainted back to those colors in March of 2002. The differences are, the blue is more of a sky blue and the piolet has no white stripes.
@j.w.billingsley1635
@j.w.billingsley1635 4 ай бұрын
This may just be the best HO-scale depiction of the GS-4, especially of 4449. I saw one of the pages at the old "Modeling the SP in HO Scale" website of Mr. Angel Garrido, and he mentions that the old BLI version that was produced in collaboration with now-defunct subsidiary Precision Craft Models wasn't ever a good runner. The MTH version was better at that, but it wasn't a very accurate model. Kudos to BLI for finally getting it right. I hope that ScaleTrains will release a more accurate HO scale Daylight train using the former MTH tooling, obviously tuned up to look a lot more accurate in terms of paint and with better-quality material, for this locomotive to pull, and maybe also as an eighteen-car consist like the "Daylight" had at the height of its popularity (about 1946-1950). BLI says that it will release "Stealth" versions that are DCC-ready later this year and they also want to make an N-scale version sometime in the near future, too. If they do, then I hope that it will be a lot more accurate and run better than Kato's version since Kato's version doesn't have a lot of the details that BLI's HO-scale version does. They mentioned that in the next-to-last question of last month's "Broadway Flyer" monthly newsletter. Here are the pages in question for reference. modelingthesp.com/Steam_Locomotives/Steam_Locos_IV..html broadway-limited.com/blogs/news/the-broadway-flyer-january-2024
@user-yg2gp3by6z
@user-yg2gp3by6z 4 ай бұрын
Nice. I've always loved the Daylight locomotive.
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
Same here!
@tonyansill3093
@tonyansill3093 4 ай бұрын
It is actually not screwed down. It is just a lift up. Since mine is going to be stored in its packaging I kept them in place. That thing is also heavy, it is all metal.
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
Well heck 😆. That thing wouldn't budge. Oh silly me.
@kenneths3742
@kenneths3742 4 ай бұрын
On both of the Daylight red/orange versions the “Daylight” emblem on the skirts is in different places on the left and right sides. On one side it’s higher than the other side. That’s a pretty bad mistake.
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
hmm, I didn't notice that until now. Good catch. That's why I let the video do the talking in addition to what I catch because it's hard to see it all from 1-2 feet away while doing the review.
@randydobson1863
@randydobson1863 4 ай бұрын
hello James & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks James Friends Randy
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Randy.
@gilbertoviviani9273
@gilbertoviviani9273 4 ай бұрын
fantastic engine indeed! Just because I personally like more the WP livery that the one I picked....just amazing locomotive!!
@kevinbooth2063
@kevinbooth2063 4 ай бұрын
James nice review. I received my BN 4449 last week and am awaiting the large lettered 4449. I have wanted the daylight for some 30 years. Please do a review of the BLI Shay.
@Jabond07
@Jabond07 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful 😍😘❤️😘❤️
@phatboy3587
@phatboy3587 4 ай бұрын
I like the SD70s a whole lot.
@JoeBowman69
@JoeBowman69 4 ай бұрын
good review, but I sometimes miss you just running trains
@YeOldeGeezer
@YeOldeGeezer 4 ай бұрын
Got this exact run of GS4 as I can no longer a brand new GS4 from MTH and that was the one I wanted.
@OriginalBongoliath
@OriginalBongoliath 4 ай бұрын
The new BLI one is a much better version. I used to have the old MTH one and while it looks nice and has the extended, unique passenger announcements, and better smoke unit, everything else the BLI one does better. One of the biggest drawbacks of the MTH version is the pulling strength and plastic drawbar. Their version that came out in 2020 had a lot of quality control issues. If you pull short trains then it should not be an issue but if say you wanted to pull the full-length Daylight passenger consist the MTH one will struggle. Paragon 4 GS4----> MTH GS4 (2008) ----> Paragon 2 GS4-----> MTH GS4 (2020)
@mojessedax9089
@mojessedax9089 4 ай бұрын
@@OriginalBongoliath mmmm... I don't know. In my opinion the MTH one is better than this one. But I would have to see this one in person to really decide. Anyhow, for a start I love MTH smoke units! Also I run the MTH set of passenger cars + 2 and I don't have pulling problems. I wonder...
@PantherLineProductionsofOhio
@PantherLineProductionsofOhio 4 ай бұрын
You should do the P4 New Haven I-5 next.
@legotech7268
@legotech7268 4 ай бұрын
I wasn’t able to pre order this model since I wasn’t sure if this would have any significant problems. At my train club most people don’t buy broadway but buy brass. I am really impressed with this model overall the detail is spot on and the pulling power is amazing. But the thing I want to know is are there any significant problems that will appear after a few months of people using this model. Because if there isn’t I do intend on buying one of these things when I get off of college over the summer if there are any left. Regardless you did a great job on this review and I think you covered everything everyone wanted to know about for this model. Great job man.
@drewzdrew27
@drewzdrew27 4 ай бұрын
I also didn't pre-order since I wasn’t sure if this would have any significant problems...like the paragon2 did. There is a high chance BLI releases these again as "Stealth". That will allow a "soak"/real-world testing of all the hardware. lol
@legotech7268
@legotech7268 4 ай бұрын
@@drewzdrew27 hopefully
@JDTsTrains
@JDTsTrains 4 ай бұрын
This is my favorite locomotive. I was interested, but other reviews have had issues with derailing and shorts. Did you have any of these problems. This is not bashing Bachman, it is a serious concern if I am going to spend $700
@myhiddennameis
@myhiddennameis 4 ай бұрын
BLI, not Bachmann. I have the BNSF 4449 version and it started having issues shorting out within 30 minutes of it running at my club. At home on a test track it seems fine though.
@sptrains486
@sptrains486 4 ай бұрын
Y does the smoke just kinda puddle out when idle?
@joenewstead4848
@joenewstead4848 4 ай бұрын
The only thing i dont like about the new paragon 4 series is that thier electronics are proprietary. Meaning it is nearly impossible to make changes or to even rewire the locomotive if you were to do so. I have been seeing a lot of Paragon 4 flooding the market because of this. Especially THE FEF3's
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
You can still program cv's so I'm not sure what all is locked out really.
@MachRacer4
@MachRacer4 4 ай бұрын
The MTH colors are a bit pale compared to BLI in my opinion.
@OriginalBongoliath
@OriginalBongoliath 4 ай бұрын
MTH didn't go out of business, they just downsized when Mike Wolf retired. They got rid of their HO tooling to solely focus on O Scale, their bread and butter, selling their HO tooling to ScaleTrains.
@_melonic_4560
@_melonic_4560 4 ай бұрын
What smoke fluid is being used? because holy crap that's a lot lol.
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
It was bli filled already.
@FreighttrainDaniel1225
@FreighttrainDaniel1225 4 ай бұрын
First comment btw I have a question does Broadway limited imports re release old models
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
Yes they do with some models
@FreighttrainDaniel1225
@FreighttrainDaniel1225 4 ай бұрын
Alright thanks
@ExplodedwarlockD2
@ExplodedwarlockD2 4 ай бұрын
@@FreighttrainDaniel1225well ya and put new oh electronics in them. Lol
@FreighttrainDaniel1225
@FreighttrainDaniel1225 4 ай бұрын
@@jlwii2000 thanks btw there’s a video called the brave locomotive
@sd80mac
@sd80mac 4 ай бұрын
@@FreighttrainDaniel1225 what does THAT have to do with this?
@modelrailroadexcursions987
@modelrailroadexcursions987 4 ай бұрын
What I'm most frustrated about is the BNSF scheme should be white, and not silver markings. When the whole paint scheme is only two stripes and recording marks that is a big miss.
@jlwii2000
@jlwii2000 4 ай бұрын
I was having a hard time telling but I understand.
@modelrailroadexcursions987
@modelrailroadexcursions987 4 ай бұрын
@@jlwii2000 all you have to do is focus on the white walls and it's a match with striping and the lettering. I was all over it in Wenatchee for the EAS in 2000, and chased it through the Yakima canyon, over Stampede Pass, into Tacoma and back down to Portland in 2001. I guess it's just different when you got to see it in person. It was some good memories... Oh well decals for the fix it is.
@jimcombs6760
@jimcombs6760 4 ай бұрын
$600 for a locomotive. That will put me right out of the hobby. Great looking model, but more disposable income than I’ll ever have. Good luck y’all!
@steveburgess5690
@steveburgess5690 4 ай бұрын
Yep, price wise these are the cream of the crop! There is a lot of good second hand stuff out there, that’s how I can afford this hobby.
@nickmangona48
@nickmangona48 4 ай бұрын
Man this hobby has gotten completely out of control in terms of prices.
@SmackyTheB3AR
@SmackyTheB3AR 4 ай бұрын
Never pay MSRP for a new locomotive. You can always wait a bit and find better prices at wholesalers or on BLI's own refurb outlet store. I recently got Paragon4 PRR E6 Atlantic for 300$ (MSRP of $600, so basically half-off) from their outlet store. If I want to I could sell it in a year or two for much more than I paid for it.
@OriginalBongoliath
@OriginalBongoliath 4 ай бұрын
@@nickmangona48 Prices on high end models have always been expensive even back in the "good ol' days". Your government destroyed your purchasing power by inflating the currency. Adjusted for inflation these cost as much as the old brass trains that were the best you could get but now these have better quality control and ready to run out of the box versus the tinkering you have to do with brass so overall are a better value for what you get. You can always find Bachmann models for a fraction of the price.
@myhiddennameis
@myhiddennameis 4 ай бұрын
You can find it cheaper. I got the BNSF version from an online train store for $512 including shipping!
@TheGreatRailroadProductions
@TheGreatRailroadProductions 4 ай бұрын
Nice trains James. I do got a small letter 4449 version and it was so awesome train. I do have some of my ho sp daylight passengers are 8 athearn passenger cars and 1 walther passenger car was combine car for my train I could pull. Here's my short video of my southern pacific 4449 small letter version with 9 passenger cars on the layout. (kzfaq.infoUAEt32Q8aUs) I order more athearn ho sp daylight cars because I could add more consist. Very nice video review 4449 locomotives and they are beautiful.
@TheStarforce2
@TheStarforce2 4 ай бұрын
so if you put that in grams, thats 368 grams. I pulled tested the k4 pacific prr at 340 grams and bigboys are over 400 grams. the fact that it only slightly out does the k4 pacific isnt really all that impressive. Ill hafta test my mth. Lets see you in 3 or so years after you've run this hard 3hrs at a time in a large professional layout every weekend for the public we will see how that paragon crap stands up. If this is still running ill be surprised. my mth is still going strong. my bli engines drop like flies. Ill be passing on the bli daylight. already have one that works great.
@TobiasL1000
@TobiasL1000 19 күн бұрын
The self-confidence to hold a 600$+ with one hand and trying to remove some small Plastik parts….
@scarfacezalusky8238
@scarfacezalusky8238 3 ай бұрын
"Promo SM" 😈
@mojessedax9089
@mojessedax9089 4 ай бұрын
New tooling - shmooling ... still doesn't compare with the late MTH models. there's a cheapness about it. also, always the same lousy smoke system... and all for the mere price of $700 !
@MachRacer4
@MachRacer4 4 ай бұрын
The MTH colors are a bit pale compared to BLI in my opinion.
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