yep. those glass fuses will catch fire if it arcs, which it will

You must change fuse with the exact value for safety. Value of the fuses and type are electrically calculated along with the supplied circuit. Changing fuse with higher value is a mistake. Fuses is a last line of defence in a electrical circuit if they don’t blow fast enough when there’s a electrical fault 2 things can happen 1st more electrical components will get damaged or 2nd fire hazard can happen.

Where do you get the fuses

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If you were only ever using the stock 2amp chargers then chances are that your fuses are fine. One thing that did happen to my Wolf King GT though that I didn't make a video of, the wires inside the deck that we're going from the charge port to the fuse actually came detached from the charge port because the battery was pressing on them so hard. One of the downsides of having such a tight fitting battery.

@@GingerOnWheels you’re absolutely right! I was hesitant to dig into it till the fuses showed up (electrical not my thing) but i unscrewed the deck and right there…. loose connection to the charge ports. Plugged in firmly and the chargers light red again! Youre right about it being a tight fit in there.

Glad to hear it! Just be careful poking around in there. Pretty easy to short out the system if you don't know what you're doing!

Thanks GoW. The fuses fixed the issue. Had to get the fuse connectors as well. She’s charging on all 10A again. Cheers mate

If the charge port is damaged in any way I would replace it completely. Thats one part of a scooter you don't want to make angry.

if you charge it at 6.5a to 10a consistently would the batteries deteriorate or become junk quicker?

The charger you have is called a Roger charger. It's literally the exact same charger except he employed the factory to add a second dial to it. After he did that then the factory started selling it as the standard format. 99% chance we have a charger from the same factory. 🙂 I agree 100% about your Kaabo feelings. I really wish they'd tried to fit a 40, or even 45ah battery in there.

We'll now I've got conflicting information. This is from an electricians site - "The sand acts as a thermal mass, to absorb some of the heat of the overloaded fusible link and slow down the melting. It allows transient overcurrents to be carried without instantly blowing the fuse, hence why they're known as “slow blow” devices."

The most I would charge on your scooter is 9amps. You've got a 14S9P battery. 9 parallel strands each capable of of about 1.3 amps max safe charge. Dial that back by 30% for safety and you're looking at about 9 amps, between the two ports. I don't recommend more than 7 per port.

Video out tomorrow 😁

@@GingerOnWheels sweet

Why fix something not broken?

I think I commented on your reddit post today, was that you?

@@GingerOnWheels yes!! That’s me! I’m just now seeing your comment, yes it turned out to be a disconnected wire. It’s just unfortunate they cut those corners. - your probably wondering 💭 what does Hyrule master chef mean ? I have a Zelda channel for breath of the wild haha and a huge fascination for scooters. Your video actually helped me I needed to know where those screw holes and wires were! Thanks a million. THIS SCOOTER IS INSANE !!!

Why not just use the fast charger for the whole cycle? Once it enters CV mode then it'll slowly decrease amps to balance your cells.

will the battery become junk or deteriorate over time if charger consistently between 6.5 to 10a

I got mine on Aliexpress and had the cables made custom for the charge ports. Its really easy to catch your stuff on fire with this thing so I'd recommend against it unless you really know a lot about batteries and how they work.

@@GingerOnWheels sup Ginger, I just received that 13amp charger from Aliexpress haha. And like you said, it is easy to catch that stuff on fire with this charger. So what voltage should I set the charger on for my 72volt Wolf King GT? I saw on your video that you have it at around 72.5volts to charge your Wolf King GT, that means I should set my fast charger to 72.5volts?

If you get a breaker for both charge ports you'll be hard pressed to fit them inside the deck.

following. My left turn signal and deck lights don’t work anymore

Check wires, check for continuity with a multimeter. If you don't know how KZfaq it.

Nonsense.

If you use the exact value of charging current it will blow again. Fuses protect against excessive current. You want the fuse to be slightly higher than the current level you want to protect.

Exactly! Thermal runaway is no fun especially in a battery this size.

Yes

Hope you charge like that outside, using anything other than the new stock chargers is asking for trouble. Ginger doesn't care if your house burns down. Thermal runaway will ruin your day.

@@jaycarl1562 I don't care? Is that why I invented, and sell the FireSak? Jay in your mind this video didn't exist before you saw it, sort of odd. Did you notice this video is a year old? I regularly charge my gt pro at 10amps. Why isn't my Wolf on fire? As long as your charger is putting out 84.3v peak then your battery will be totally fine.

Battery is either LG or Samsung. Samsung will probably be in Japan because of their health and safety rules.

My battery is a LG, the top pin on the back of the charger port is not being used, so they are only using two pins, for positive, and negative connections

This battery should be LG or Samsung but I saw no indication of that on the outside of the battery pack. Very odd. I can't verify the brand of cells at this time.

@@GingerOnWheels mine is clearly marked on top

Its a LG the wolf warrior 11+ comes withba Samsung

I had a wolf 11+, and regular king and charged them all the time with two 5 amp chargers. I used the same two chargers on the King GT Pro and the fuses blew 🤷‍♂️. I WAS plugged in outside and some people are telling me that's 'dirty power ', but I think it has to do with that 4 to 3 pin adapter, or maybe just a faulty charger? Either way, I'm happy with the upgrade because now I can rest easy knowing I'm not melting anything charging at 10+ amps.

I'm curious who sold you the charger

Good eye! I've had that horn on there for a while and love it. Definitely video worthy, you're right! I'll get that out in the next couple of weeks.

Its irritating isnt it? A totally healthy charge rate for these massive batteries is still around 25amps, way faster than my wall will even allow. But with the 1.5 amp stock chargers its sortof a joke.

@@GingerOnWheels I absolutely agree! I pump plenty of power into my t10-ddm without any issues, I usually take it right to the safe max, although it is much lower due to the 52v 22ah battery 😅 Hint hint, you can get heat shrink the right size online for the battery and some good silicone wire too and replace the dinky charge leads ;)

That could be so many things. Most likely it's a loose connection in your wiring in the deck somewhere. Disconnect the LEDs and use a multimeter to measure for power while the lights are turned 'on', follow the wires back until you find a break in power.

Nah, it was a factory 'upgrade' to the BMS that caused the issue. Kaabo released a statement on it today.

@@GingerOnWheels Brother, can you link to the statement KAABO released? thanks mate.

@@GingerOnWheels Can not find statement from Kaabo, only Voro and Fluid say anything about this.

Actually its $1000 at voro. Tried them all, the KWKGT is by far the scooter with the least problems. Tried to like the NAMI BURN-E 2 MAX but there where simply to many issues, main one being crazy speed wobble at speeds over 45 mph no matter what you do. The KWKGT has absolutely no wobble at any speed. This is important as I commute on the Wolf 22 miles a day at an average speed of 48mph.

@@jaycarl1562 I had to put new rear bushings in mine. I got leet3d black. what a difference. so much better. kaabo wont cover that I bet

Did you order a refurbished one ? If there is mud on it then it's definitely used.

@@GingerOnWheels No, brand new. And also the Black/Red combo ( which is 400$ more expensive for some reason) 😢

@@Mountain_Soldier where did you get it from?

Fuse is blown.

Its right at the max allowable charge rate. 6amps for a few hours might even blow the fuse. I'd stick to 5 per port unless you've upgraded the fuses.

Honestly it sounds like you have a battery issue. Or BMS perhaps. If your fuse was bad then it would be an open loop which would turn the charger green. You can try unplugging and reconnecting the XT connectors from the battery to the controller to reset it perhaps, but it sounds to me like you might have a dead cell in your battery somewhere. Id contact your point of purchase for support first, if you mess with the fuses you might void the warranty.

Yeah it works fine. People online like to repeat things they've read from sources with no experience. The stock fuses are only good up to 5 amps so it wouldn't surprise me that the stock fuse blew at 6.5A.

@@GingerOnWheels got them in and they work mint. Thanks man

I no longer own that scooter so, no, I can't !

Could be your charger, have you tried another one?

I have 2 chargers, both will stay green. I tested both and they are working as they should. What I did find out is if I run battery down below 15% and plug in the charger will go red but once it hits around 20% it will turn back to green. I just don’t understand. The fuses and wiring seems to be good.

It's probably fine. Leave them both plugged in for a while longer and I bet they both turn green. The charge ports will usually turn green to red at different times.

Check out PEVoutlet.com. It's my scooter accessory shop and I sell chargers that will work on your scooter with a splitter that run at 9-10 amps. Despite what you hear online that's a completely safe rate to charge your scooter at. Most lithium sells can charge at one C which for your scooter would be 35 amps. The wolf warrior 11 plus has 5 amp fuses for each charge port though so you can run 5 amps into each port safely.

@@GingerOnWheels Thank you, mate.

If you're looking to achieve thermal runaway, yes get the 10 amp

You have the wrong voltage selected in the display settings of the scooter. At 83v your scooter is already at 100% charge, something in the settings is confused and thinks you only have half charge.

@@GingerOnWheels I've gone through the P-Settings already, but didn't notice anything. I'm trying to find the wolf king gt pro p-setting list, but no luck and all I'm finding are the ones for wolf warriors.

@@URASSISGRASS1000 you'll have to download a pdf of the manual I guess. I think they are called "advanced settings" on the GT PRO.

Adjust the tire size setting to get the speed more accurate. You should never adjust the magnet count.

@@GingerOnWheels what size do you set the tyres to?

Glue. I just peeled it up in the areas where I know the screws are.

Hey! I think I replied to your Facebook post earlier today. Inside your deck in the same spot as this scooter you'll find the fuse holders. Follow the wires from the charge ports for about 8 inches and you'll see them.

@@GingerOnWheels someone did sisnt know it was you. Posted the question multiple places to get a higher chance of response. Thanks again

You want a 67v dc charger with a gx16-3 pin connector. Anything with less than 5 amp output. I think stock charger is 2.5 amps.

@@GingerOnWheels thank you sir

I've only ever gone up to 10 on stock fuses. I did 12 with the fuse upgrade on the king gt pro

@@GingerOnWheelswould it deteriorate the battery and become junk over time quicker?

x13 does not have fuses so if you have charging problem it is from bms most like[y bad mosfet or in safety mode,, do not charge more than 8 amps for both ports will cause battery to leak in some cells if they used tsl 21700 cells

You do not have the GT Pro, you probably have a Wolf but not the King GT Pro

@@jaycarl1562 yes its the gt pro. I think the pro has charge ports on the right.

i.imgur.com/7kcchTu.jpg the sticker says wolf king gt then configuration: pro

I'm having the same problem with my GT I'm going to upgrade the fuse and see if that help it don't charge up all the way to 100%

Would you able to figure out what's the problem?

Approx 0%. 'Fast chargers' do charge quicker than stock, but it's not anywhere near what an actual lithium fast charge is. A 35ah battery can fast charge at up to 35amps safely, but scooters and eucs consider 5amps a 'fast charge'. It's not fast compared to what the battery can handle, it's fast compared to stock.

The faster you charge the shorter life of the battery. Charging up to 100%, or 84 volts is also something that would shorten the life of the battery. I only charge 79.5 volts or 80% most of the time. I give it a full charge when I know I need it. Also make sure that you never leave it fully charged for more than 24 hours and do not let it discharge under 25%. Store your scooter between 60 and 75%. Taking care of your battery in this way will get you over 1000 power cycles easily, not doing this and following gingers advice you would get around 300 cycles. The price we paid for this scooter, it's in our best interest to take care of it the best we can. Ginger could care less about how long your scooter lasts he just wants to be right about everything and will never accept or admit when he's wrong.

I would limit to 8 amps. 4 amps per charge port.

This Ginger guy is kind of reckless, stupid or both. Can you imagine putting your family in danger because you want to charge your electric scooter faster.

Error 30 - communications/controller error. Most likely a display problem, a wiring harness or the controller. If possible troubleshoot with another display (if you have access to one) ..... Check your wiring harness for damage or bent pins. Pay close attention to the wiring as it leaves the controller going to the wiring harness, making sure no part of the wiring has been smashed by motor flex or random debris Check if you have extensions for the brake levers, throttle or gear sensor. Unplug everything before testing, then test by plugging each component individually in and power cycling the system. Check that you are not pinching the wiring leaving the controller, or the installation is causing the wiring to be pulling out of the wiring exiting the controller. Unplug all plugs in the controller as shown here, then plug them back in. Click here and follow step 2 for bypassing the LCD I'd unplug everything except the display and see if it changes the trouble code. Even to the point of disconnecting the controller from the motor (hall and phase wires) as I think if the 5vdc regulated power supply is being shorted by something, loss of communication will occur. EDIT: May want to check for 5vdc at an easy location like the brake connector (see wiring pin-out below) to check if it's lost or weak first...

That would be fun. But I don't have any magura brakes to test them with. Thanks anyway!

No I don't. Sorry. If it were me I would cancel the order for the fingerprint reader and just use the password function built into the display of the GT

@@GingerOnWheels didn’t realize it had one on the system

Wow. They sent you a DOA scooter and won't take it back? I thought they did quality checks on everything leaving their warehouse hmmmmm. Honestly I have no idea,it could be so many things. Obviously its charged I assume? You're holding down the correct button to turn it on?...

@@GingerOnWheels Ya they are working with me, just never know what they know if they are just on the sales side. I'm waiting on the head tech to call me. Just hoping that someone has had the same issue and it was a simple plug or switch that I don't know about. But yep could be anything. And yep fully charged took 13hrs, and holding down the small button on the back of the controller.

@@ericmilan5256 Did you get it fixed?

@@jaycarl1562 yep, the guys at voro were awesome . They sent me a return shipping label and I got it sent back the next day. They sent out another scooter 2 days after they received mine and it's been amazing ever since. Never figured out the reason for the failure but the box that is was shipped in was trashed via ups so it could have been a shipping related issue, who knows.