BROMPTON FOLDING BIKE "DOES TI PARTS WORKSHOP STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS?"

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We had two parts fail that came from TiParts Workshop. If you don't know, they are the biggest aftermarket parts maker for the Brompton Folding Bicycle. This video is about what parts failed and if TiParts Workshop stands behind their products. Please watch to find out and subscribe for more content!
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0:00 Intro
0:08 Issue #1
2:47 Issue #2
5:50 Chain Tensioner Fixing
7:26 Thoughts On The Problem
7:59 Parts Are Back / Putting Back On The Bike
10:30 Final Thoughts
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@MrJofArnold 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this. Really glad I held back and waited for the T Line. Don't have one yet but will be way less nervous cycling it around!

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

Best of luck! I hope they start making more T-Lines faster. It seems like the demand is great.

@r1skbreak3r61 2 жыл бұрын

An easy way to align the bars when fitting the stem is to fold it and clip it into the catch. Once you tighten the stem bolt and unfold it, it should be in the correct position.

@chrislabish 2 жыл бұрын

Quick helpful tip: Before you remove the chain from the tensioner, release the rear triangle (like you are folding) and fold the triangle. You can now easily remove the chain while holding the tensioner so as to not allow it to spring back. If the bike is in a work stand, just let the triangle drop. Do this when installing the chain also.

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲Thanks! I'll give it a try next time. I take the tensioner off a lot lol.

@bobwilliamson5574 2 жыл бұрын

I like the fact that you can do all your own maintenance , really good videos.

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲Thanks. I love working on the Bromptons and figuring out how all the parts work. Sometimes I spend hours trying to figure things out but It's been fun learning.

@KiwiDJ 2 жыл бұрын

Good to know TiParts resolved the issues and you were satisfied with their CS. Did they explain what was wrong? Anyway, I have their products too. Hope nothing goes wrong with the stuff I use.

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲I did not get an answer so I believe it was what I explained in the video and couldn't be fixed easily.

@JhunAva Жыл бұрын

I finally found this video about chain pusher roller

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

Great! It's been working great since then.

@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Жыл бұрын

I have changed my tensioner to a nice golden metal version as my bike, after several tries, also expensive versions, where the length didn't fit my model bike! Also versions having more holes/distances for placing the axle (One must fit!), but still not being the correct version. I then found one being the same length but the new "metal wheels" made a lot of noise and chain wear, so I went back to the original plastic wheels, and they function, at least for now. My bike is mostly for travels and service, so it isn't used every day.

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

I've noticed this too. Each tensioner does affect the chain and ride quality.

@gonzaga3c 2 жыл бұрын

You can slightly open up or wedge the clamp area of the handlebar clamp using a flat head screwdriver or similar so you don’t need to force the handlebar using a mallet or hammer when removing and re-installing. Save your bar from scratches too😊 or when you have loads of scratches on those Ti parts of the bike you can get a Scotchbrite pads to freshen them up…just follow the sanding pattern of the original.

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲Thanks for the tip! Hopefully I won't need to take it off for awhile 😅

@feivel08 4 ай бұрын

That was my thought as well. But I don´t use a screwdriver. I remove the Screw and us a small metal plate or smth. between the clamp. Then I insert the screw from the opposite side and tighten it so much, that I can just easily remove the handlebar. Using this method i don´t "overwiden" the clamp and have a free hand to remove and reinstall the handlebar. Especially helpfull, wenn you use the m bar. Sorry for bad english. Hope you could understand what I wanted to say. Greetings from Munich 🙂

@kevinseversonandhisvizslas8287 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Perhaps this is why Brompton went w their own design? 😎

@MK-bs3dn Жыл бұрын

Hi Shu. Another great video, and glad your parts came back repaired and were in good order. Quick question on Titanium parts: are you using (is it necessary to use) a Ti-specific grease, like anti-seize or a copper based product? I just bought a bunch of Titanium parts (seatpost, handlebar, stem, hinge clamps, easy wheels) though having some second thoughts about putting 3rd party parts on a brand new bicycle - I’m not the experienced mechanical whiz that you are - even though the weight reduction would be wonderful. Been getting conflicting info on Ti as Ti is reactive and can fuse (“gall”?? “cold welding”???). Any thoughts on that would be much appreciated. Thank you.

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

I just use regular Park Tools grease. Any type of grease will work fine. Just make sure you have the right torque specs. Titanium nuts and bolts can strip easily so take your time installing them and don't rush. Which brand did you go with?

@MK-bs3dn Жыл бұрын

Hi Shu. Thank you for the tip re: Titanium bolts. The parts I ordered are from Ti39, I believe they are based in Hong Kong. Seems to be of good quality - they answered my questions and the parts came very well packaged. Of course the first thing I checked was the space in the stem clamp. 👍 I may wait to attempt to replace all the parts until the original steel malfunctions or rusts or I get tired of the bruising from carrying 20 lbs because of the threading issue you mention. Still amazed by this bike - I did the Twin Lights 30 mile route last weekend - hills were hard going for sure but only got off to push my bike uphill 3x. As an inexperienced rider, I credit having been able to complete the course to the Brompton. Love it! Thank you again!

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

@@MK-bs3dn Nice I was looking into that event, but I didn't want to spend the money lol. I bought parts instead! Good luck with your build!

@MK-bs3dn Жыл бұрын

@@BromptonFamilyTime I hear you. It’s pricey to do especially as a family. It was like a day trip / mini-vacation for me; good to get out of the city. Thanks again for all your tips and looking forward to the next video!

@Veterans2009 9 ай бұрын

Thanx I was about to buy it for my P line but I changed my mind

@BromptonFamilyTime 9 ай бұрын

The replacement has had no problems.

@Veterans2009 9 ай бұрын

@@BromptonFamilyTime what is the weight of the orignal stem?

@BromptonFamilyTime 9 ай бұрын

www.petrelli.cc/brompton-modding-3886-chap3-with-titanium-s-stem-color-coated-into-black/

@erickaguilar4899 2 жыл бұрын

What website do you use to buy ti parts? Or did you go to them directly?

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲 I have been using a few places. You can go to the TiParts Workshop website and find the nearest dealer.

@L1M3L1M Жыл бұрын

Hi may I know if you end up not using any aftermarket Titanium Stem on your Brompton? Tempted to change my C line with Ti S stem. But the reviews vary, some said its good some said its flex too much hence affect overall experience. My current C line. Mods with Ti Fork and Ti Triangle(*+-8.9kg), but wanna shave a little bit more with Ti Stem. Hope can get some insight from you 😉👍. Love you channel ❤ and Tan tan 😁.

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

I am still using the TiParts Workshop replacement one and it has been problem free. The flex in the stem is not a problem with me. I actually don't notice any. If you are the type of rider that pushes into the stem then you may notice it. I love the way it looks too. It makes it look sporty too.

@L1M3L1M Жыл бұрын

Mostly is chill ride and riding not really pushes the stem, however am quite on heavy side 89kg.😁 Thanks for the reply 😉👍

@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 2 жыл бұрын

I did think about replacing my original stem post to an unoriginal, flame painted titanium one (as on my bike), on my slightly modified lightweight, but I may not, after all?

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

I have heard of some titanium seatpost that are not machined correctly so the diameter is different throughout the length. I have not had this problem, but I would not trust a no name company if they don't have a return policy.

@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Жыл бұрын

I have lately found a Chinese Firm intend on making a "carbon stem post" for an ordinary Brompton, which may become the lightest version to buy? The Firm has promised to give a notice, when it is ready for a sale! My SuperlightM6LX 😁 - with mudguards (I'm a Rainy Dane!!!) and some extra lightweight parts for now weighs 9,35 kilo, and still with some extra, easy ways to make it even lighter, in spring (I still haven't changed all possible standard brake-parts/bolts to titanium and I may find even lighter brakes?). But the metal plates holding the original titanium stays on my mudguards may be changed to new Chinese, carbon parts with bolts, as the two mudguard holders to aluminum, instead of the originals, from "Heavy Metal", even on a Lightweight! I have those and just need to change them, when summer and better weather comes. I have also changed the axle in front to one from titanium. The back is a 6 speed Sturmey Archer Gear. And I may also change the ball bearings to a Ceramic set, as on my Crank. Finn. Denmark

@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Жыл бұрын

@@BromptonFamilyTime I did buy a Brand, seat post made from carbon which wasn't produced properly and changed its diameter along its length, but my latest, Chinese made, titanium seat post (Black, as my bike is "Black Version"!), is both made from a strong, thick material (Not some cheap, soft stuff!) and with a same diameter along its length. And the cost of a titanium post was about the same as an original Brompton post in Denmark!

@railwaystationmaster 2 жыл бұрын

Given Ti Parts are in business to cater for Ti upgrades it is a minimum requirement that when their products fail or become problematic they go the extra mile and make full reparation of faulty product including shipping , the fact that they decided to patch up one of the components that you returned I find shoddy and unacceptable , these are expensive high end parts that I feel certain had Brompton supplied them a full replacement and high quality after sales would have been standard , when all said and done companies live or die by their reputation and once tarnished it's nigh impossible to get the shine back , that's why Apple put so much effort into solving any issues swiftly and professionally .

@HolgerNestmann 2 жыл бұрын

I disagree. I think it's perfectly acceptable and more importantly more suistainable to repair a product. The customer has caused wear and doesnt need to receive a shiny new one. Also this is a super niche company which has huge material costs, comparing them to apple is not apple to apples

@ShiftySkunk 23 күн бұрын

I agree. I don’t understand why the customer had to be out 75 bucks in shipping for no fault of his.

@fedormurashov Жыл бұрын

is there is other manufacture who makes same product, but better quality? Thanks for answer!

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I doubt there is. They have been leading the accessory industry for the longest time. I still trust their products and buy them.

@softbingan 2 жыл бұрын

The glasses are very cool. How much is that?

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

👩🏻 I bought them for myself, too and they are pretty comfortable. Please search "Ombraz armless glasses" and official site should come up. 😊

@shihchangwen Жыл бұрын

I am thinking of changing the Ti Part's stem as well. Would you still recommend it now?

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

Yes, I have had no problems with it since it was replaced. Make sure you buy it from an authorized vendor and inspect it before you put it on to save time. I love it and if you can afford it, its great.

@shihchangwen Жыл бұрын

@@BromptonFamilyTime Wonderful! I have copied your link to them and asking for their warranty policy. Yes, they are authorised vendor. However, still struggling about the price vs if a noticeable upgrade experience can be experienced. 😂

@shihchangwen Жыл бұрын

@@BromptonFamilyTime just ordered and have forwarded your video to them and had their technician checked before shipping out. should receive it tomorrow. 😄

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

@@shihchangwen Good idea. It is an investment. I love mine and have had no problems with the replacement one.

@Bjlims 2 жыл бұрын

May I know what chain tensioner is that?

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲BROMPFICATION TENSIONER. IT HAS A NICE STRONG SPRING. IT WORKS WITH THE STOCK TENSIONER WHEELS. IT DOESN'T WORK WITH SOME AFTERMARKET TENSIONER WHEELS SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ASK THE VENDOR IF YOU PLAN ON USING AFTERMARKET TENSIONER WHEELS.

@smashsmash5866 2 жыл бұрын

Hi bro. May I ask, where is those Ti Parts made? Japan? And his answer was "it is from Osaka.

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲 I am not sure where all the parts are made. I would assume Honk Kong but I am not 100% sure.

@wingcreator Жыл бұрын

Hong Kong-based company but I am not 100% sure all made in Hong Kong though? However, it is the most used Brompton mod brand in Hong Kong.

@Veterans2009 9 ай бұрын

How much weight will i safe if i change the original one?

@BromptonFamilyTime 9 ай бұрын

www.petrelli.cc/brompton-modding-3886-chap3-with-titanium-s-stem-color-coated-into-black/

@peacenowar6920 Жыл бұрын

Just curious do you tighten the mounting screw using torque wrench according to their specific range .

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

Hi. It depends on what I am tightening but in general I do as long as I know what the torque spec is.

@Ram-69 2 жыл бұрын

Hi bro. May I ask, where is those Ti Parts made? China?

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

👩🏻It is From Hong Kong. 👍🏼

@Ram-69 2 жыл бұрын

@@BromptonFamilyTime 👍🏻

@woomichen1378 2 жыл бұрын

Company is based in Hong Kong but parts made in China. Like a lot of third parties mod companies, buyers beware. These are small companies and they often flout snake oil products that have no warranties.

@Veterans2009 9 ай бұрын

Any idea the weight of C line weight?

@BromptonFamilyTime 9 ай бұрын

👩🏻Hi. You should check their official website for the details. 👍🏼

@swiftrod2195 Жыл бұрын

I would have expected them to replace the whole chain pusher part to be honest as now you have one side with wear and the new side without?

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

I only rode with it for a few rides so the wear was minimal. It has been working great ever since so I can't complain. In the end, I'm glad they fixed both problems. I still love the stem and have had no problems.

@swiftrod2195 Жыл бұрын

@@BromptonFamilyTime As long as your happy with the end result! Bike looks good and I do like the stem! 👍

@achmadpriyanto9200 Жыл бұрын

try using stok hinge clamp.

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

It was a manufacturers defect. It works with any clamp now that it is replaced.

@aarhmn Жыл бұрын

Does Tiparts stem flex?

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

All stems flex. I have never found it to be a problem on any bike. If you do alot of climbing you may notice it more often.

@aarhmn Жыл бұрын

How many Nm did u tighten with torque wrench for the tiparts stem?

@BromptonFamilyTime Жыл бұрын

Check out Bromptonman.com for all torque specs. He keeps a good guide of all specs. The torque spec would be the same since you are using the stock wedge into the stock fork.

@francisc144 2 жыл бұрын

Why don't you just file it and make the finer adjustment??

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲It was missing too much material to make it work unless I added a shim to the opening.

@YPO6 2 жыл бұрын

Use only official original manufacturer's parts for those folding points.

@BromptonFamilyTime 2 жыл бұрын

🧑🏼‍🦲 All the original parts that get taken off get reused on my steel bike 👍🏼 Their is nothing wrong with the OEM parts.

@wingcreator Жыл бұрын

Yes, totally agree. I have a great Brompton mod master here in Hong Kong. He recommended not touching the frame and the front bag block with 3rd party parts for safety and reliability!