I have a first generation T Line so I am speaking from experience. It's a noisy bike. You need to grease it after a few months of riding to get rid of the creaky noise. It's not a simple greasing. I need to disassemble the hinge and headset area and grease and assemble again with a torque wrench. Brompton recommends using non-petroleum grease and it actually works eliminating the noise. I've had multiple punctures on it because of the horrible Tubolito inner tubes. It's very light to carry and it makes a big difference for a daily commute. I've taken it abroad as carry on luggage. But if you are a recreational rider and don't use a Brompton to everyday for work commute, I would go with a P line instead. It's cheaper and doesn't require a lot of maintenance. I think the P line is Brompton's best offering. Reliable solid bike that doesn't cost a lot of money. I ride my P more often now. Potential T buyers beware.

Its lovely but i thought my p line was excessive 😂. I still think the c line explore is the best all round bike.

Great instruction to an exciting and easily affordable Brompton. The bloopers at the end really made it worth staying for it! Keep up the good work🎉

I’ve been checking out the t-line from afar for a while and you still managed to tell me things I hadn’t read/seen elsewhere. Very informative. Thanks!

What an excellent series of videos 😁 it's so helpful. I love my bikes but just not finding a breakdown like you've done on the channel ! Thanks so much

this video is perfect! I'd watch comparisons like this on all sorts of things. Thank you!

Thanks for the video. I’ve seen that improvements on the T line go beyond making it lighter, that was my first impression. There are several interesting design innovation that you pointed out brilliantly on your video

Many thanks for an excellent review as always Hannah. 😀 Love my T line and use it all the time - it’s super light as you say and this is really useful when changing modes of transport. Everything on it is high quality and it’s a pleasure to work on. I’ve swapped out the tubes and tyres for Conti Contact Urbans and Schwalbe tubes as recommended by others. I had to sort out a VERY squeaky seat in the first week of ownership and a quick regrease of the front clamps has quietened everything down. A “brilliant” bike in a very way…👍👍👍

Love the video! FYI, lots of T Lines from where I'm located are fitted with Chris King InSet 7, using TiParts Workshop headset adaptor rings. Chris King headsets are also beginning to show up custom made for the T Line, but these command a price premium on top of the already expensive InSet 7.

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love love your bloopers 😄

Love my T Line - I'm just one big smile every time I ride it. It is so zippy and stable, it just flies.

Vous êtes aussi géniales que charmante et à cause de vous j’ai craqué pour un fantastique T Line ! Amitiés de Belgique ! 😘

Thanks for the video. Excellent job as with all your videos. I think I'm getting a C line urban 2 speed. I still very much liked watching your comparison between the T and P bikes.

As a tall rider with a 37 inch inside leg, it does my head in that the seat tubes are never ever made long enough. Btw - you mail order service is amazing. 🎉

I'm Australian, "arse-end" is preferred nomenclature. I particularly like the lingering steely stare after comparing the roller wheels. I was compelled to pay attention.

I’ve had the T for a year now. It’s great for daily commute due to its light weight. Personally I find the saddle a tad hard for my bum on long rides so I have swapped it for something more comfortable. Overall it’s fabulous and I can see myself using it for more than 10 years (I have a M6R as well).

Thankyou for a very detailed, informative and down to earth video, ....with also a little humour and jest in the sidelines. Can you please do some similar vids for other bicycle related things? Or even non bicycle related things? you are a fabulous presenter thankyou again.

The weight and the folded rolling are really appealing... Not so the lack of color options nor the lesser gears... I guess the biggest issue is the way higher price than C or P... Could probably put a C bike on an effective diet, within a smaller budget... It also seems, from availability and options, to be in it's early stages... Great, detailed explanation!

For me it's the new hinge pins and rear triangle pivot that are now replaceable without special tools. 🤩

Great video. Practical, clear and Informative. Would be great if you could compare the P line electric with the C line electric.

You never mentioned the actual "Weight" of the T-line - with mudguards?? My present, now - much, much modified 2019 "SuperlightM6LXBrompton", but still without a carbon handlebar and - modified mudguards, changing the "Heavy Metal" clamps to a set of carbon and aluminum, is presently weighing 8,75 kilo and I expect to be able to reach at least 8,5 kilo (+ Some more brake parts, for the original Brompton brakes, which for some reason has changed shape/bolt length during the years, - to titanium)!!! I have a Ceramic, Titanium Crank and Ceramic balls in my head set! And most all, front-axle and bolts, discs, seat post and nuts on my bike are now from Titanium. I have "stabilizers" on my clamps, to keep them positioned when folding my bike (and Security bolts in the end of the locking bolts/clamps, not to be able to - loose them during handling!!! I lost one in the growth in a wood (But luckily found it again)!! I needed to reach "the hidden tool set" in the frame!) And of course all the "Missing Protection" against "scratches" during folds, which The Factory has never provided!!! When I gave my "Brand New Bike" an Auto Polish all over, after - two or three folds, the one "clear tape", from The Factory 🤨 was nearly worn through to the paint, so I - immediately ordered a full set of "Plates and Protection" for the many known "Week Points" on a Brompton frame, so it still looks like a New Bike today! Finn. Denmark 😄

Thanks

Thank you

I have "tried" to improve my T Line but am unable to do so. A mechanic at NY Brompton Junction said there is a better aftermarket left pedal but I have not been able to find it. He also said the T Line is perfect "as is", and he sees a LOT of Bromptons and after market parts, so he knows, IMO. I REALLY like my T Line!

So they do innovate 😊

waited for a review like this for a while, now my employer has upped the limit for the cycle scheme I think ill be trading in my p-line for a t-line.

Any of these bikes look great . Only as a small rider my main concern is crank length ? Do the come with only 170mm cranks? A cheap ARGOS challenge folding bike comes with 140mm cranks which i have fitted to my hybrid bike 140mm is the correct length for my 69cm inseam. Is there any option to get 140mm or even 155mm , is 165mm a option ? Because 170mm for a short rider is a none starter as far as i am concerned. I take my crank lengh from on line crank length calculator 'bikefaff ' it is correct. 170mm is correct crank size for someone with 84cm (33 inches inseam), i belive this to be correct. Is there any option to get short cranks for someone with 32" inseam or less (165mm, 155mm or anything less that 170mm or are we just supposed to make that work? Even as a extra option at extra cost ?

It's good to see mudguards on the T-Line. I know that the weight weenies love to save weight, but mudguards really are a must for the vast majority of the year in the UK. How does that automatically aligning frame clamp er... automatically align? Great vid. Thank you.

Thank you for this excellent video. But the most important question is: how is the ride? Does the t-line feel that much better?

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Do we know if the current T line fixes some of the issues? I really fancy a T line but hear of all the issues people have. I have an early P line with many T line parts which has mostly been solid.

Did you talk about the forks? I can't find that you did, but its early and I'm still half asleep

Very enjoyable video. Any info on T line accessories?

Supply caught up. I noticed the price drop. The clamps can be found aftermarket that does the same thing.

i cant believe the bloopers is only 1 min long hahahahhaaha btw my friend did fit a Chris King on Ti Line ... using Insert 5

Is it possible to convert my T-Line 4 Speed 50t chainring into the new 12 Speed version?

Number 21, your legs look longer and slimmer on T-Line than on the P-Line.

Any idea on wait times for the T Line?

you didn't mention the one version. how many is the crank 56T or 50T or 54T?

Are the self aligning hinge clamps suitable for older Bromptons or do they fit T-Line only? If they will fit ok you have the part ref so I can order some from you?

It looks stunning. However, I'm not a fan of carbon fibre in safety-critical areas. Having owned an early Brompton where the handlebars failed (dramatically and instantly), I'm wary of the dangers of parts failing. Carbon fibre, especially where it may pick up wear has a reputation of failing without any warning. I just couldn't use a bike with carbon bits on a daily basis - I just wouldn't trust it. I'd much rather stick to steel or titanium for a daily bike. However, I'd be happy to use this as an occasional bike.

You deserve your thumbs up. Great work and many details. I ride a single speed T-Line for months with lots of pleasure and efficiency. For a reason I'm not sure to be able to explain the extended seat post fits perfectly well with my long legs on the T when I need an extended seat post on the C..

Wider handle bars may give more control, but if like me you have narrow shoulders they might also be less comfortable.

Any chance of changing the gearing to a lighter gearing? Here in Norway the 6 speed -12% option is the default one . An 11-18 cassette would do the trick.

I love mine

I want a video about riding the titanium. How does it feel? I have heard reports that it was originally a bit whippy. Is that true?

Is this on general sale not the balot?

The best posh tottie on KZfaq - fascinated by her exploratory finger 😻

Does anyone else think the T-line at £4,500 is out of many people’s pockets or is part of owning a T- line means the weight of one’s wallet is also lighter, have mentioned before why have they changed the wheels on the P- line when the should have the same as the T- line , The CEO of Brompton said on a podcast two weeks ago that they’re working on a 12speed upgrade, can’t help but think the way forward would be much more logical to have an internal 11 speed hub with a belt drive system, song for today dedicated to the price of the T-line = Money, Money, Money = ABBA.

How to clean the T line frame? It looks uneven on the surface

I have a question: In a hypothetical dream build of a T-Line, and if the frame size were commensurate to the wheel size, would your T-Line have 16", 18", or 20" wheels? Why?

I wish one day Brompton make a desks brake

And the weight of the T line is?

Why is it that brompton chose to use carbon fibre for the fork instead of titanium?

how much does it weigh?

Weight comparison?

Oh wow, comparing these two bikes and forgetting to tell us the weight and the price - oops! 😂

1. It’s light, 2. It’s light, 3. It’s light etc 😂

So Brompton finally make a bike I would love to have..And you need a morgage to buy unless you are rich. I will have to stick with my Tern verge X11..

THE PRICE IS INSANE

Another great video, as always. However, what is the correct price for this? I've seen quoted £4'500 😮

The top tube holes do contribute to a real problem. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aL1hdsSXzNTJYWQ.html Since Jun 2022 with 2000 km on the mileage.

I am not keen on Brompton and especially very expensive Bromptons blinged up with other non propriety headsets and steerers with their branding spoiling the overall aesthetic. I know this is very popular in the far east. I like the concept of No Logo which Wilf Self addressed on his Volvo.

Welcome to the flexing of the Titaiume. Bcos you all asking for the trouble yourself. Silliness to me, if I may say! Instead of improving the C Line, Brompton created the P and killed the superlight. And made the T and kill the P hahahaha

Weight of P line & T line & compare difference between P/T…

A lot of money for an occasional ride.

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Wow, at $5,500, I would need to commute for about 46K miles at current gas prices just to break even.

Carbon fibre is not a material "for life", it is a material designed for maximum result, not maximum longevity. If I drop 4,500K on a bike, I want that bike to be for life - and that will mean sans carbon.