Bronze Acme Nut for Lead Screw Part 1

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Abom79

Abom79

Жыл бұрын

We begin the machine work for the new bronze acme thread nut for the new lead screw I machined that will be used on the American Pacemaker lathe. We'll take some old bronze square stock and go to the 4 jaw chuck to machine them. Also we'll use our big FlexArm for power tapping the 3/4-5 left hand acme threads.
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@ScoutCrafter
@ScoutCrafter Жыл бұрын
STILL the best machining content on KZfaq...
@djamelhamdia134
@djamelhamdia134 Жыл бұрын
Hey, nice to see you here, John! And I agree with you by the way.
@james02mustang
@james02mustang Жыл бұрын
I'd go for a "Loosen Lows, Tighten Highs" T-shirt
@johndonlan5956
@johndonlan5956 Жыл бұрын
Oh Adam..... That use of the Dead center for indicating the bronze center hole in the jaws.....that blew me away! I've never seen that done before..... But it's brilliant!!! 😉 And don't worry about sounding 'nasal' old buddy....... I think all of us would watch your videos even if you just used sign language -- they're that good!
@Chaplain_GM
@Chaplain_GM Жыл бұрын
This is Why i watch you Adam The skill and Professionalism and attention to detail cannot be taught from a book, It has to be hands on real work experience and you even admit when you fail... This is the definition of a master craftsman. God Bless you and Abbie. ❤🙏🏽👊🏽
@johndonlan5956
@johndonlan5956 Жыл бұрын
I agree completely! Very well said!!!! 👍
@davidmott2090
@davidmott2090 Жыл бұрын
Adam eye-balls it and says 'probably 10 thousandths' then measures it at 11 thousandths :)) a master at work
@johnchamberlain5435
@johnchamberlain5435 Жыл бұрын
I like how when Adam is centering a workpiece, he gets within two or three thou and says, "That's close enough," then keeps going to get it zeroed exactly. "Close enough" just isn't close enough. When it comes to machine work, perfectionism isn't a bug, it's a feature!
@joshclark44
@joshclark44 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! 😂 like man that guy is good!
@johndonlan5956
@johndonlan5956 Жыл бұрын
I don't know, Adam...... You better get your eyeball recalibrated...... You were off by a thousandth or two! 😉
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals Жыл бұрын
When you stated that you were excited about trying out that giant acme tap I could picture your flex arm going, "Oh Jesus!".
@matthewperlman3356
@matthewperlman3356 Жыл бұрын
Using the dead center to indicate off of was one of the coolest indicating tricks I have seen you do. Thanks for showing that!
@bigboreracing356
@bigboreracing356 Жыл бұрын
I used that trick with the live center when I indicated the bronze nut I made for my lathe. You can see the indicating tool I used to finish the indicating procedure in my Part 7 video.
@KTX666
@KTX666 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, making tons and tons of nuts for propellershafts, if you run the tap in dry, it'll fit the first time... Bronze doesn't want to be cut, so if you lube it, you're helping the material win and not the tool 😉 sharp tools and no lube is the way to go 👍
@iamkilroiyo
@iamkilroiyo Жыл бұрын
So the oil allows the tap to slide and not to sheer?
@georgemiller6930
@georgemiller6930 Жыл бұрын
Well this is an interesting comment lol. Now I'm confused as hell! 🤣
@KTX666
@KTX666 Жыл бұрын
@@iamkilroiyo that's my experience 👍
@imkindofabigdeal4308
@imkindofabigdeal4308 Жыл бұрын
Love that Fex Arm. Done a fair amount of rigid tapping on my mill but that little bit of wiggle room and the hydro drive - seems like the bees knees.
@colinfahidi9983
@colinfahidi9983 Жыл бұрын
"Loosen your lows, tighten your highs!" - a great title for a Country n' Western song.
@DavidKutzler
@DavidKutzler Жыл бұрын
29:00 I suspect that the power tap generated a good amount of heat expansion in the bronze and the tight spots on the lead screw occurred when the bronze cooled and shrank. Running the tap through a second time by hand on a room temperature part cleared out the few thousandths of shrinkage due to the part cooling.
@jonka1
@jonka1 Жыл бұрын
Yes I'm sure that's likely.
@utidjian
@utidjian Жыл бұрын
@@jonka1 I don't think so. The thermal coefficent of expansion for typical bronzes is about 17-20 X 10^-6 (millionths) per degree Celsius. On a part that size it would melt before it expanded "a few thousandths."
@virginian7317
@virginian7317 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it was only heat expansion. On the next video, notice the pattern on the bottom of the radius. It is convex across the surface. The tap forced the material out. It didn't go back on the ends hence why the tap would start but got tight. An indicator would prove this. Interesting to see. I don't think steel would be so easily distorted.
@mdouglaswray
@mdouglaswray Жыл бұрын
Your video is always excellent. The scene of you loading the hydmech is great! Perfect lighting and focus. Sound is good, strong and clear. Never seen better on broadcast TV!
@Hippo0529
@Hippo0529 Жыл бұрын
That dead center technique was really cool!
@blh3741
@blh3741 Жыл бұрын
That pic sure as heck looks like the pipes I made in high school metal shop....41 years ago! :~)
@andypandy9931
@andypandy9931 Жыл бұрын
Bronze always closes down after cutting, we used to allow +,002" on diameters to allow for this.
@johndonlan5956
@johndonlan5956 Жыл бұрын
Wait until you start learning your CNC lathe..... And find out that, with power driven cross drills in a couple of the turret stations, you can make this entire part in one operation! Right now you're just curious about CNC..... But just wait and see what you can do -- Mr Manual Machinist, it will blow your mind. 🤗
@micahwinters7021
@micahwinters7021 Жыл бұрын
I just love videos. I love watching them on Saturday afternoons just relaxing
@bert7328
@bert7328 Жыл бұрын
Clever use of the centres for dialing that nut in. Respect!
@bobh64
@bobh64 Жыл бұрын
Fun watching the new shop full then empty then full. :}
@jasongram1287
@jasongram1287 Жыл бұрын
24:05 That sounds like when I try to open the bathroom door slowly at night. Thanks for the in depth walk through all of this. I know you're slowing yourself down by bringing us along, but it's appreciated. I have some brass to drill some holes in at home, and the reminder about brass wanting to grab probably saved me a nasty surprise with a drill press. I'll probably hand drill it to make sure it doesn't grab.
@djamelhamdia134
@djamelhamdia134 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the refrigerator door when taking a sneaky snack in the middle of night.
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 Жыл бұрын
Hand drilling is even worse than drill press and can break your arm if you’re not careful. Hone a small neutral flat on both cutting edges of drills to remove the “hook” and stop drills from grabbing.
@jasongram1287
@jasongram1287 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I mean arm power only, no motor.
@allenhunt3070
@allenhunt3070 Жыл бұрын
Your Dad's shop keeps providing! Nice video Adam.
@just.some.dud3
@just.some.dud3 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Adam! The lighting and video footage in the new shop looks amazing. :)
@carloantoniomartinelli5418
@carloantoniomartinelli5418 Жыл бұрын
I am sure I echo all your followers in wishing you a very fast recovery. Get well soon.
@charliemacrae1045
@charliemacrae1045 Жыл бұрын
GreT to see you working between the two shops. Great convenience. Good work on the bronze parts too.👍
@Ddabig40mac
@Ddabig40mac Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to show a few different set ups for indicating a part in the 4 jaw. I find that helpful.
@scose
@scose Жыл бұрын
cool trick indicating with the dead center!
@AxlMetcalf
@AxlMetcalf Жыл бұрын
Matches up with our original sample when it’s Just a block with a hole 🤣
@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love to watch bronze or brass chips fly! Great video! Spring pass on the tap did the trick. I guess the whole world really is a spring.
@wahru3357
@wahru3357 Жыл бұрын
it was very cool that you used a piece of material that your dad had handled for this project,excellent content as always.
@warbird099
@warbird099 Жыл бұрын
Since I am new to machining, I really like videos like this where you show all the steps for indicating an irregular shaped piece in a 4-jaw chuck. Great video! Thank you!
@jeffwisemiller3590
@jeffwisemiller3590 Жыл бұрын
Want to see off-center machining, head over to CEE AUS, The piece he machined was 6" thick & 8-10" long. Bet that was an off center load.
@frankdoner8402
@frankdoner8402 Жыл бұрын
Ya gotta love it when a plan comes together Maestro.🙃
@bennyfactor
@bennyfactor Жыл бұрын
That big acme tap is gonna be something else! Great to see you using your new machines to work on fixing the vintage one.
@logan_e
@logan_e Жыл бұрын
I know 'how' to operate a lathe and milling machine but I'm still little more than an amateur machinist even after almost 60 years a mechanic, I have to say I'm impressed with the way Adam used the dead center and live center to indicate the work! Very cool trick!
@markfritz315
@markfritz315 Жыл бұрын
At 29:00 when you were manually tapping the hole my dog was really concerned with the squeaking. He must have thought something was in pain.
@spaight711
@spaight711 Жыл бұрын
I love that technique for centering on a small hole. Definitely going to have to remember that one Thanks for the tip.
@ArtisticLifePhoto
@ArtisticLifePhoto Жыл бұрын
Nice work! If it was me I would cut those radius features first, then turn the remainder in the lathe with a 4 jaw chuck. Gives you more to grip for the milling operation.
@alanpecherer5705
@alanpecherer5705 Жыл бұрын
I never saw that "dual center" centering trick before. Simple once you see it done, but still very slick. Nice! I was very surprised to see how much tweaking you had to do to indicate & center the part just flipping it around 180 degrees in the 4-jaw chuck after drilling the first through-hole. That's a mini-lesson right there. Oh yeah, and at long last, one of the charter members of Adam's vast tap handle collection finally makes an appearance. Bravo!
@edjay395
@edjay395 Жыл бұрын
That's gonna be a beautiful piece when complete. Too bad that the 1st acme rod went out of whack. Everything is coming together Adam. Can't wait to see that BIG lathe actually make chips...Great Vids👏
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek Жыл бұрын
I remember bronze "shrinking" after boring or tapping. I'm not surprised it was tight. Lovely job on that thread. Looking forward to seeing the rest come together. Thanks for another excellent video.
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 Жыл бұрын
...the way I figured it, was the hole in the bronze was expanded during the tapping process, and then it shrunk again- that's why the screw was tight.
@johndonlan5956
@johndonlan5956 Жыл бұрын
You have to pay a few cents more for the non-shrinking bronze. Apparently Adam did this job "on the cheap"! 😋
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 Жыл бұрын
@@johndonlan5956 ...as I recall, Adam was using material that he had on hand.
@johndonlan5956
@johndonlan5956 Жыл бұрын
Sorry Dale, I was just making a joke. There is no such thing as non-shrinking bronze.
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 Жыл бұрын
@@johndonlan5956 ...I didn't think so.
@ericmiller5559
@ericmiller5559 Жыл бұрын
Squeal! LOL nice work Adam.
@damianzanolli1845
@damianzanolli1845 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Get well soon have a speedy recovery.
@dougbourdo2589
@dougbourdo2589 Жыл бұрын
Nice, Fun & Interesting to see the new equipment and old pieces like the lathe tool holders working together.
@DavesRocketShop
@DavesRocketShop Жыл бұрын
Your hand tapping near the end got the dog's attention!
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek Жыл бұрын
Ditto! 😁
@michaelwindle5023
@michaelwindle5023 Жыл бұрын
...nothing like sharp tools and new machinery! :D
@CraigsWorkshop
@CraigsWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I guess sometimes taps need a spring pass too :-) I expect the power tapping warmed up and expanded the bronze ever so slightly, making the threads on size for that temperature, but then when it cooled to natural temp it was slightly tight again. Edit: Sorry - looks like lots of others commented the exact same thing.
@chestervaldes7551
@chestervaldes7551 Жыл бұрын
Sir, you are an artist.
@eddiebutts7923
@eddiebutts7923 Жыл бұрын
I've had several sinus procedures done so I feel your pain.
@erneststorch9844
@erneststorch9844 Жыл бұрын
To keep a twist drill from hogging in brass and bronze put a small flat on the cutting edge no larger than 1/32" parallel to the center line of the drill. This will make the cutting edge 0 degree rake and will stop the pulling.
@johndonlan5956
@johndonlan5956 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what an old tool maker taught me years ago!
@mosschopps2853
@mosschopps2853 Жыл бұрын
Now that's a proper sized tap :)
@larrysmurthwaite773
@larrysmurthwaite773 Жыл бұрын
That’s an ABOM size flex arm, so impressive how much torque that has!
@Screws619
@Screws619 Жыл бұрын
Tapping bronze by hand would make a great coyote call 😬
@nickolasjones9212
@nickolasjones9212 Жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot about machining from you and others on the you-of-tubes. Making things helps me deal Combat Related PTSD (Creative Therapy), and then I sell whatever I make on Etsy (as per my Better Half's "request" (LoL)) The only problem I have being Medically Retired from the work force and not having the funds to stock up on materials such as Brass to keep making things. An I'm sure there are tools that would help as well, but it is what it is. Please keep making great videos that I can learn from; and maybe I'll be able to practice what I'm learning one day.. Take Care and Stay Safe. "Go Hard... Be Humble..."
Жыл бұрын
Que trabalho perfeito amigo Adam!!! Grande abraço daqui do Brasil a todos aí!!!
@billabernathy1541
@billabernathy1541 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Adam. Your explanation and instruction are great. I enjoy seeing you indicate a part. The threading is a nice piece of work with that two-stage tap. I am looking forward to seeing some CNC action as well. Thanks for sharing,
@thething4763
@thething4763 Жыл бұрын
Wow! The trolls are out in force.
@nickblood5040
@nickblood5040 Жыл бұрын
Glad you are well Adam
@hansdietrich83
@hansdietrich83 Жыл бұрын
24:49 a rare sight, a genuine Abom Smile
@utidjian
@utidjian Жыл бұрын
He smiles a lot more these days. I suspect part of it is Abbie and part of it is he is a lost happier building his new shop and getting shiny new stuff... what's not to smile about?
@bigboreracing356
@bigboreracing356 Жыл бұрын
It took me three attempts to make a bronze lead screw nut for the cross slide of my Colchester Clausing 13" lathe. The third attempt was my forth time to ever cut threads. My very first time cutting threads was last month and they were external. I posted a seven part video series on the nut. The videos explain my struggle. Part 4 shows how I made the second nut work Part five shows how well a 6 TPI nut works on the 5 TPI lead screw. Part 6 shows how I discovered my mistake and Part 7 shows the result of making the correct thread pitch nut. I mentioned your channel as I was indicating the nut on the four jaw because your video on the subject is how I learned how to indicate on the 4 jaw. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob Жыл бұрын
Double Boost (John Mills) uses a trick for quickly getting it very close, before indicating with the dead centre. With the chuck jaws opened wide, he places the point of the tailstock mounted live centre in the drilled centre, pressing the workpiece against the face of the chuck, and brings the jaws in until they just touch the workpiece, leaving him close to centred.
@mftmachining
@mftmachining Жыл бұрын
I know...not workin here, cause of the big trough hole in his chuck.
@markshort9098
@markshort9098 Жыл бұрын
That only works on larger parts unless you stick something behind it so it doesn't disappear up the head stock
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob Жыл бұрын
@@markshort9098 You mean like a parallel?
@markshort9098
@markshort9098 Жыл бұрын
@@BedsitBob yeah it's just something to cover the hole but then you either have to get it out or tape it in so it doesn't fly out, sometimes it's just easier to indicate in the whole way than stuff around trying to hold parallels and the part while winding the tail stock all at the same time
@mdouglaswray
@mdouglaswray Жыл бұрын
Sorry your sniffer is stopped up! Glad you got it hoovered. Hope it comes back 100% right!
@izzynutz2000
@izzynutz2000 Жыл бұрын
all the years I've been Machining, using that dead center and indicator to Center up that hole I've never seen before.. the way I was taught to do it on an offset hole like that in between Jaws was to just use a plain 60° dead center ( or whatever degree Center you have as long as they're mating ) open up the Jaws on the Chuck, use your tail stock and quill to pinpoint and press your work up against the back of the chuck then bring your jaws down to meet your work evenly ..once it's tight, remove your tail stock and dead center that should put you right on the money.. that's the way I was taught.. I wish I had a shop because I'd get up and go down into the shop and test it to see which one's better.. thanks for the tip Adam.. another useful tool for the Arsenal..
@chucksmalfus9623
@chucksmalfus9623 Жыл бұрын
Using the live and dead center method is more accurate, Just lining up a center will always be at least a few thousandths out no matter how carefully you try to line it up, the few thousands out really doesn’t matter in this instance but it’s nice to know how to get it dead nuts when needed.
@markshort9098
@markshort9098 Жыл бұрын
I use the tail stock like that but i wouldn't say it gets dead nuts on, it's a good way to get it close though.. i done that trick yesterday but it's just a burnt out 5/8" thick disc that needs to be bored so a piece of 2" round can be welded in ready for the next opp so a couple of thou out doesn't matter at this stage
@CarnivoreCurin
@CarnivoreCurin Жыл бұрын
I avoided wanting this one because I thought it would be boring. But what I found out is, I was the most interesting video you have made and I want to see the rest of the project. Good job showing the indicator. Please show more content of indicating and getting parts straight.
@tomoakhill8825
@tomoakhill8825 Жыл бұрын
Wow. this is wonderful. Talk about a "machinist's fit." I have watch Abom79 since SNS 2. This is the first one, that I remember, where Adam shows the indicating gauge up close at 22:50. Note that the needle is moving much less than one thousandth. Adam also guesses that he is out by 10 thousandth but it actually was 11 thousandth. This exemplifies why Adam is "Adam Booth Grand Master Machinist" and the rest of us are trying to be.
@mrlikwid100
@mrlikwid100 Жыл бұрын
I have to say you make some excellent videos
@mustafatoruk1791
@mustafatoruk1791 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always 👏👏
@rca7591a
@rca7591a Жыл бұрын
If this were food, I'd be drooling. 😎
@Glork4224
@Glork4224 Жыл бұрын
I really like how you found center at 10:00, that's cool.
@sparkplug0000
@sparkplug0000 Жыл бұрын
I think the sound of that hand tapping called all the dogs in my neighborhood!
@mongomay1
@mongomay1 Жыл бұрын
thanks Adam
@jamiemorgan4146
@jamiemorgan4146 Жыл бұрын
Get well soon! Big Guy !
@can5projects563
@can5projects563 Жыл бұрын
awesome job Buddy
@harrywhalen3571
@harrywhalen3571 Жыл бұрын
Don't be blaming Abbie I learn something new every time one of your vids airs Thanks A&A
@stevecallachor1
@stevecallachor1 Жыл бұрын
The Precision Matthews machine looks exactly like the Colchester machines I used as a student. I guess you can’t improve on excellence. Our training workshop had machines made in the early 1970s. Stavros
@user-kf9ib8ic6q
@user-kf9ib8ic6q Жыл бұрын
Россия смотрит !!! Ваша работа завораживает !!! Мира и добра !
@randyfox4611
@randyfox4611 Жыл бұрын
Man that tap used up some torque but the machine kept up no problem. Thats a lot of power concentrated in that little bitty hole.
@twatbass
@twatbass Жыл бұрын
saw the thumbnail and thought damn Abom is crankin out 90s weed pipes now?
@Rheasound
@Rheasound Жыл бұрын
Speedy recovery and thank to share it with us!! Amazing job as usual!
@systemsrenegade9888
@systemsrenegade9888 Жыл бұрын
I love the sound of brass or bronze being turned on a lathe.
@rolandolievanoagudelo.5112
@rolandolievanoagudelo.5112 Жыл бұрын
Muy buen trabajo maestro 👍
@LifetimeinWelding
@LifetimeinWelding Жыл бұрын
I was getting quite excited to view the cutting of lefthand thread on the lathe. The tap was an alternative method. Nice relaxed video.
@patrickcolahan7499
@patrickcolahan7499 Жыл бұрын
Always learn something new regarding setting up and taking measurements. Thanks very much for sharing.
@zeuss194
@zeuss194 Жыл бұрын
This could have been a good candidate for thread milling on your cnc mill
@matthewchastain136
@matthewchastain136 Жыл бұрын
probably a pretty expensive thread milling cutter i would bet.
@Vampier
@Vampier Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good workout
@bucknaked31
@bucknaked31 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, because threadmilling is a great thing to start doing for a beginner who just got his first CNC… 😂
@alejonin
@alejonin Жыл бұрын
@@bucknaked31 Im sorry? You ovbiiusly start on CNC cylinder head porting, of course!
@VaughanNaidoo
@VaughanNaidoo Жыл бұрын
Would have loved to have seen how you counter weight the chuck in order to increase speed.
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo Жыл бұрын
The sound of turning that tap by hand could be used to call coyotes
@stevendephillips2490
@stevendephillips2490 Жыл бұрын
Learned something. Centering the square stocks center drill hole with a 4 jaw. Thanks!
@karimizir7774
@karimizir7774 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video..verry good work
@guygfm4243
@guygfm4243 Жыл бұрын
So long since I used inches and fractions. Thanks for sharing
@SlinkySlonkyWaffle
@SlinkySlonkyWaffle 7 ай бұрын
my guess with the tapping is that: the powertapping with the flex arm causes allot of heat and makes the brass expand, due to friction of the relatively highspeed tapping with the constant rpm from the flexarm, making the 2nd pass necessary because of shrinkage after the first tapping.
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing buddy
@loydsa
@loydsa Жыл бұрын
Excellent teamwork as always Adam 🙂
@mikepayne5032
@mikepayne5032 Жыл бұрын
Good work 👍
@robertconklin3322
@robertconklin3322 Жыл бұрын
That was a fun one to watch Adam!
@StormbringerMM
@StormbringerMM Жыл бұрын
Ooo nice I need to make a new one as well thanks!!!
@rodneywroten2994
@rodneywroten2994 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@KG-yn9qi
@KG-yn9qi Жыл бұрын
Nice thank you👍🏻🇺🇸 know cool to see all other things going on , but nice to see some work getting done !
@ronnydowdy7432
@ronnydowdy7432 Жыл бұрын
Great show Adam
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578 Жыл бұрын
Good job thanks for sharing
@alveesee
@alveesee Жыл бұрын
Cool saw
@exilecommander
@exilecommander Жыл бұрын
The up close tool shots were really cool to watch, and I don't think I have ever seen an acme tap quite like that, I have used them that only had the acme cutter before but never both
@smc4229
@smc4229 Жыл бұрын
That flex arm is the coolest thing ever. I don't even do any machining and I want one
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