You have pretty much put the Roberts situation to rest now next Conquest? What do you know about J m James of Kansas... Jessie)? and the Knights of the Golden Circle evidently you're pretty intelligent man you know what I'm saying u know where this is going these Outlaws or circumstantial situations with these people don't give up their life so easily when they spend all their time and way of life trying to stay alive one would Enlighten their senses and keep that in the back of their head for sure... I'm just a very inquisitive person just amateur but you have to put common nature & human reactions into the stuff and sometimes just things that make sense.. and you have did a great job on Billy.. I can only do research on what I'm told do research on top of research to make sure the information you find is even true.. it takes awhile to get one little answer doesn't it and then your reputations, is on the line if you happen to make a human error..

@@seekerofthetruth9805 Thank you for your comment. I do plan on covering Jesse James in the near future. Thanks for watching.

@@brushybret excellent I'm curious to see where it leads u rather deep rabbit hole with some unique twists and turns With the pie safe found in the wall ect... and the signatures &pic on the row call rouster of Raiders reunions ? Can't wait to read your findings. Thanks !

@@seekerofthetruth9805 I thought Jessie James was from missouri

@@brushybret So you think Brushy was Billy?

No, they were not the same man. thier hand writing were not the same.the eyes is not same, the nose and month are not the same. they were different. Brushy Billy born on possible in 1879, this make William H. Bonny was 20 years older than him.

@@royjacobson5561 Did you actually watch this video? if you did maybe get your ears checked or pause the video at certain points and read the paperwork all of which kinda proves Brushy could not have been born in 1879. As for the hand writing what are you basing that on? all the correspondence purporting to be from Billy's hand were all in fact written by many different people so we have no definitive example to compare.

Brushy bill was billy the kid

@@jason686361able Agreed. Many young people think that as we age, our looks and handwriting remain the same as they were all those yrs ago. They do not remain the same. I'm in my 60s and my handwriting has changed due to age and my facial structure has changed from wait for it.... Aging!

Get DNA FROM HIM AND RELATIVES OF!

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And. In reality, there are very few things that are %100. But we accept much of it as fact because there is so much evidence, that just makes it wise to do so. To the contrary, one would have to go waaaay around the proverbial barn to try to make any other assertion workable. I believe this is the case regarding brushy bill. Good job at presenting all of these facts!!

Get right or get left, if Brett wants to prove history books are poop, he will reach out to me

Nothing alike photo s over laid provides proof

@@marklewis4421 Well that was almost a sentence!

That last sentence is so very true! Just like what’s going on in the world today. There is a reason why they call it a Tell-A-Vision

All claims are based on circumstantial evidence... There is no way to prove that he was Billy... There is no way to prove that he wasn't...

@@calmerthanyou6180 What? Everything in his videos are backed up by solid facts.

I'm in the final edited stage of my next video and should have it up in the next day or two. My next four videos will be going over Roberts'interviews with his attorney, William V. Morrison, and I'll be showing the evidence that supports his statements. They'll be The Lincoln County War, Post Lincoln County War, The Shooting At Ft. Sumner, and Life after Billy the Kid (The Dead Years). Thanks for watching.

@@brushybret I’ve done a lot of research on this, watched all your videos including the facial recognition and to me nothing is better evidence then the identical ears, and identical eye brows. Dead on that anyone can see with their own eyes.

@@brushybret and I’m looking forward to your next videos.

@@brushybret yes I am very interesting on what he done the 70 years for a long time I said he's not really Billy the kid but I'm leaning more and more everyday toward him being Billy the kids they really look the same except one's an old man and one is a young man but I've done research too also not near what you have and I'm convinced that he is Billy the kid that is the main reason I'm interested in what he done for those 70 years I want to see what Billy the kid was doing for those 70 years

Two copies of the interviews were known to exist. The first set of copies were in the possession of Roberts' step-grandson, Bill Allison. These tapes were loaned to researcher Frederic Bean sometime in the late 80s. W.C. Jameson wrote a book about this set of tapes in the book, Billy the Kid: The Lost Interviews. When Bean had the tapes, he noted the poor condition they were in, primarily due to the manner in which they were stored. Nonetheless, he transcribed them and these transcripts served as the premise for the book that he and Jameson collaborated on, The Return of the Outlaw Billy the Kid. Following Allison's death, the tapes along with Roberts' trunk were taken by a family member. And from there no one knows what became of either the tapes or Roberts' trunk. As far as the 2nd set of tapes goes: I found a letter Morrison wrote just a few months before his death revealing the location of the tapes. Right before the pandemic hit in early 2020 I contacted the institution and was told they had several items donated by Morrison, and they believed they might have them and just had to figure out exactly where they were being stored. The pandemic forced us to temporarily pause in our search efforts, but I'm optimistic that sometime this fall I'll be able to locate them...if they still exist. If I do locate them, I will put them up here on KZfaq. Thanks for watching.

I have a photograph of the gun that the man shot by Garrett purportedly had that night. It was a .41 caliber revolver, which is interesting as Billy the Kid was known to always carry .44's. I'll include it in the video about the shooting at Ft. Sumner. Thanks for watching.

I haven't finished the video on Roberts' genealogy yet, but it's definitely on the way. Thanks for watching.

Thank you for your comment. I'm not sure how many videos I'm going to make, as I have so much still to cover. I've been researching Roberts' claim for more than 30 years, so I have a lot of material. The reason I chose to break it down is that it allows me to focus on each individual claim and show the supporting documents and sources. In my book, The Real Billy the Kid AKA Brushy Bill Roberts which came out in 2003 only allows me so much space and while I cited my sources I couldn't include a picture of every supporting document.

@@brushybret in my opinion your approach is by far the best I have seen or read. Do you know where I can pick up a copy of your book? I could only find it on Amazon but its out stock and doesn't say when it will have it back. Also just wondering if you're going to talking about Billy the Kid facts or just stick with Brushy for these videos?

@@brushybret I don't mean to imply The Kid and Brushy are not the same person. I was just wondering if you were going to do just Brushy facts or if you were also going to do videos on the kid, like his birthday place and death? In my opinion those two "facts" are the biggest hurdles for people before even consider Brushy and the kid are the same person.

@@Frawstplay I plan on covering all of Brushy's claim from his birth to his death, and I will cover all things relevant to Billy the Kid / Lincoln County War history. In fact, I'm going to even delve into the little known Horrell War, which plays an important part in Billy the Kid's story, in particular the relationship between Hispanics and Anglos in the area, particularly Ft. Sumner. I appreciate your comment, and thanks for watching.

Thanks For Watching.

Agree, me ? I got photos, entire James fami!y, Cole Younger Capt William Clarke's Quantrell and the list goes onnn. Texas born, Texas proud

@@laineylee2920 Are you related to Orvus Lee Houk?

I would definitely say Billy the Kid is a legend. But whether he was a good-hearted person, well based on his actions I would say that that is highly debatable. Let's not forget he was in fact a thief and a killer, and those are not hallmarks of a good person, and certainly not indicative of someone with a good heart. For example, during his lifetime Jesse James had a persona as being a Robin Hood type, but the truth was neither he nor his gang gave one cent to the needy. And let's not forget he and his brother Frank rode with the ruthless Bloody Bill Anderson, and then later the psychotic Archie Clements, in as members of William Quantrill's raiders. And let's not forget Butch Cassidy, who had the persona of a gentleman bandit, and to be fair he was opposed to violence, having never killed a man until the final shootout that claimed his life along with the Sundance Kid, but he still stole probably over a million dollars in today's money over the course of his life. And don't forget that it wasn't just the wealthy that kept their money in the banks, but it was also the average guy as well - the guy who was lucky to break even at the end of the day - so while Butch may have had the persona as a gentleman, he was still a notorious thief, and who showed that during the final shootout that he would indeed kill if he felt he had to do so. I'm not saying these men were out-and-out evil, but when you look at their actions, and that's what reveals the truth about people, what they do; I think it's clear that these men were not good.

His full name was James L. Westfahl, he was the State Secretary of the West Oklahoma Division, of the Anti-Thief-Association and his office was based out of Homestead, Oklahoma. I hope this helps.

That's the big misconception people make, Billy the Kid was not a bad person, a petty criminal. He went after the men that murdered Tunstall, and nobody was prosecuted.

Wendy Cahill, p probably one of many to kill buckshot Roberts..OK in survival I see that ..Brady made it look bad on him if he killed mcclosky that looks bad I can see bell it was necessary to escape same with olinger..when Carlyle got killed no matter who or how it happened it made it look bad I don't think he would have changed his ways live by the gun die by the gun

I'll be covering this in an upcoming video on his life after the shooting. Thanks for watching.

He did, and I will be covering this in a future video.

I personally don't believe anybody is buried under that grave at Ft. Sumner, and I plan on covering this in greater detail in a future video. Federal Criminal Investigator Steve Sederwall and Lincoln County Sheriff Tom Sullivan tried to get permission to exhume Catherine Antrim, the purported body in Ft. Sumner, William Roberts, and John Miller. This is all detailed in the book, The Dirty On Billy the Kid by Steve Sederwall. Several New Mexico historians, and local leaders claim that the bodies are there and part of the investigation was proving that the bodies were where they're claimed to be. The powers that be fought Sederwall and Sullivan every step of the way, by filing frivolous lawsuits and motions and engaging in a barrage of personal attacks and character assassinations. Though I'm skeptical about the Ft. Sumner burial site, I'm slightly more optimistic in the possibility of locating Catherine Antrim. I supported the exhumation efforts because even if there is only a slight chance that any bones lay under that headstone, then it needs to be pursued if for no other reason than to confirm or eliminate that claim. In my opinion, this was basically a put up or shut up challenge to New Mexico...and they didn't want to put up and risk losing any tourist dollars if that grave was found to be empty. Despite the fact they were unsuccessful in exhuming the bodies or obtaining any DNA in New Mexico, they were able to get quite a bit of forensic evidence that I will be covering in a later video. Thanks for watching.

Thanks! Duly noted.

Yes, J. Frank Dalton was a purported alias of Jesse James.

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I will be covering this in an upcoming video when I discuss the hearing and application for pardon. Thanks for watching.

That's a good question, and I'll be discussing this in a future video on his genealogy. Thanks for watching.

@Brett Hall That will be amazing! Thank you!

The man that made the statement regarding the arrest of the Younger's was James Westfahl, Secretary of The Anti Thief Association, Oklahoma Division. The association as well as some historians claim that members of the posse that arrested the Younger's were also members of the Anti-Horse-Thief-Association. Sources: The Story of Major David McKee, Founder of the Anti-Horse Thief Association and the Anti-Thief Association by Hugh Gresham, Bullets, Badges and Bridles - Horse Thieves and the Societies That Pursued Them, John K. Burchill, and Origins and Principles of the Anti-Horse Thief Association by W.W. Graves.

@@brushybret thank you

The University of Texas - Austin Facial Recognition Study, as well as the Study in Ears, which determined the ears were the same. Keep in mind, the original ears in the tintype were almost completely gone and were retouched by Noah H. Rose. Only by using special facial recognition equipment and software can the test read underneath Rose's work and measure the shadow or impression of the tintype. This is all detailed in John Meigs report on the condition of the Dedrick-Upham Tintype in the 1980s to the Lincoln County Heritage Trust. All of these online comparisons are done by amateurs using simple programs like photoshop or gimp and are not a reliable tool for making facial recognition comparisons, particularly on grainy, heavily damaged, and distorted, 140-year-old tintypes that have been "retouched". I discuss this in detail in the following video: Brushy Bill Roberts AKA Billy the Kid: Physical Similarities & Facial Recognition Study: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j557o9yCucqmlp8.html

@@brushybret thank you...!!!

Yes, they can...and do.

Billy the kid ears picture was straight on look at the younger straight on picture the ears are the same as the tin type picture

Do you have any evidence or sources to support your claim? I've heard the William's claim and it's eerily similar to the claim of Henry S. Smith in that it's based mainly on rumor and hearsay...nothing substantive.

This has already been debunked in the University of Texas - Austin Facial Recognition Study. As well as the Study in Ears, which determined the ears were the same. Remember, the original ears in the tintype were almost completely gone and were "retouched", by Noah H. Rose. Only by using special facial recognition equipment and software can the test read underneath Rose's work and measure the shadow or impression of the tintype. This is all detailed in John Meigs report on the condition of the Dedrick-Upham Tintype in the 1980s to the Lincoln County Heritage Trust. All of these online comparisons are done by amateurs using simple programs like photoshop or gimp and are not a reliable tool for making facial recognition comparisons, particularly on grainy, heavily damaged, and distorted, 140-year-old tintypes that have been "retouched". Acclaimed western photo historian, Robert G. McCubbin, has made statements on Noah Rose's "retouching" of the tintype and how it made it completely unrecognizable from its original condition. Clyde Snow and Thomas Kyle conducted a photo analysis in the 1980s, which the Lincoln County Heritage Trust commissioned for the stated purpose of discrediting Roberts. Kyle and Snow disqualified the ears from the examination because they couldn't make accurate measurements of the ears because of the "retouching" and altering of the image. Thank you for watching.

Yes, I've already covered this is a video. Thanks for watching. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j557o9yCucqmlp8.html

Excellent point!

I'm going to really get into the genealogy in a future video. Thanks for watching.

Lol stop watching young guns 2

Wasn't YG's 2 .It was a documentary. It added up to me. Unless Can get DNA. And it's not gonna happen. I think Brushy Bill was Billy!!

According to Roberts, the man shot by Garrett was a man named Billy Barlow.

@@brushybret Interesting, but I heard his body was laid out for all to see. So many questions! Great videos! Just found your channel yesterday. Looking forward to more.

Billy bartow

I'm a research historian that has been researching Billy the Kid for more than 30 years, during which I worked with Dr. William A. Tunstill, Dr. Jannay P. Valdez, and Judge Bob Hefner. I served as an archivist with the Billy the Kid Museum of Canton, Texas, as well as the Outlaw Museum, and I am the author of the book, The Real Billy the Kid AKA Brushy Bill Roberts. No, Unfortunately, I am not related to either Billy the Kid or Jesse James.

I kind of touched on the personality aspect in the physical similarities video, where Severo Gallegos stated that Brushy, walked, talked, and laughed exactly like Billy did. However, I'll expand more on that when I get to his post New Mexico days of his life. Thanks for watching.

There's a lot more to it than that. I will get more into this as this series progresses.

He most certainly did. Wait until I get to the Ft. Sumner episode.

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More than one.

According to the facial recognition study conducted by the University of Texas-Austin, which compared the Dedrick-Upham tintype to multiple images of Roberts, determined that Roberts and Billy the Kid were a statistical match! This study was done using The Koya-Koybashi Facial Recognition System. This system is used by law enforcement agencies and has been used in US and international courts. The only discrepancy regarding the jaw was in photos of Roberts when he didn't have any teeth. Sources: The Trial of Billy the Kid by Judge Bob Hefner, The Return of the Outlaw Billy the Kid by WC Jameson and Frederic Bean.

did you even watch the video?

When his top teeth were pulled your mouth tends to appear different.as such when a older person had dentures off an there mouth looks weird

He actually met with a few of them, and I will be discussing this in a future video. Thanks for watching.

He wasn't billy the kid

Big casino knows, he shot him dead.

He worked for the Pinkertons after the Ft. Sumner shooting (1888 / 1889), not before (1881). Brushy Bill Roberts was the real Billy the Kid! Thanks for watching.

@@brushybret stop it he wasnt the kid more like he was just a kid when the Lincoln county wars went on 🤣

@@angelvalle9963 Yeah, I guess census, marriage, genealogical, and employment records don't mean anything, not to mention a newspaper article from 1888 that details Roberts winning a horse riding competition doesn't completely obliterate your baseless claim. I'd really love to hear how you explain the fact that Oliver P. Roberts' wife Anna Barnes, who was still living in 1980 was interviewed by researcher Kenneth Osthimer, who showed her several photographs of Brushy Bill at various ages, and her response was she had no idea who he was, only that he most certainly wasn't Oliver P. Roberts!

Yeah no shit

While it's true that Buffalo Gap was not yet an official town in 1859 when Roberts was born, the area was well settled, and was home to Fort Phantom Hill (established in 1851), was part of the Butterfield Stage Route, which had two stops a week, and was an overnight stop for the Overland Mail route starting in 1858. (Source: Buffalo Gap Museum). I'm going to cover this in greater detail when I do my video on Roberts genealogy. Thanks for watching.

You are close to being right. It was a stagecoach stopover in1859. Bill's mother died in1861 his father "Wild Henry" joined Quantrill's Raiders in 1862 and Bill's mother's half sister took care of Bill.

@@brushybret just want to commend you for the in depth research you have done on this subject I have watched many of your videos I was on the fence about Brushy being Billy but after listening to the evidence I’m quite certain he was. No way he could have made these events up without being there in person especially knowing specific details, and the names of people he worked for, rode with or fought against. One question I had is there any information as to what led Brushy to Lincoln at such an early age??? My family and I visited the courthouse in Lincoln in 2008 very fascinating place. Thank you for your extensive research.

@@rayalderson67 I will be discussing what led to Billy arriving in Lincoln when I do the video on Roberts' genealogy, during which I will begin with his birth and end with his arrival in Lincoln. I touch on this briefly in my video on the Lincoln County War. Thank you for your kind words, and thank you for watching.

@@brushybret thank you so much Brett I’m looking forward to seeing that video.

The only facial recognition test ever conducted on Roberts and the Dedrick-Upham tintype was done at the University of Texas - Austin. The test was administered by two PhD scientists, who used an internationally recognized facial recognition system, the same system used by several law enforcement agencies throughout the world. The test concluded that Roberts and the man in the Dedrick-Upham tintype were a statistical match. The methods used in the test were peer-reviewed and published in two separate academic journals. Furthermore, the results of the test were reviewed by two independent arbiters who verified the findings. These are all cited in the video. Thanks for watching. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j557o9yCucqmlp8.html

I discussed this in the video, as I've already made a separate video debunking the claim that Brushy Bill Roberts couldn't speak Spanish: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pa2GqpSDst7Oh5s.html

@@brushybret why didnt garrett have a photo taken of the kids body he was all about money he even had a book written so surely if he had the most famous outlaw dead he would have realised the photo would have made him a rich man so maybe he didnt kill the kid that night but im still not certain brushy bill was the kid why cant they dig up brushy bill and then dig up the kids mother shes buried in silver city i think and do a dna test and put this to bed i love your videos brett i really hope billy is brushy bill

that is a ridiculous reason to go on. For example: When I was a kid I spoke french fluently because I was around it every day. I am now an adult and can barely remember simple words let alone speak it fluently, and for me it's only been about 15 years. Just because someone could speak a language fluently when they're young doesn't mean they cant forget it over years if they don't use it often. On top of all that, there is more evidence to suggest he could speak spanish fluently

@@amut6647 c'est dommage d'avoir perdu ton français. Quand j'étais petit j'allais souvent en Espagne et je me débrouillais bien. Maintenant l'espagnol j'ai tout oublié

@@amut6647 Exactly! Proof that Brushy, did speak Spanish, aside.... What you say is correct; particularly if said language, is a secondary language. One examplen is my American-born mother, who could speak Czech, as fluently as any native born Czech, because she was raised by a Czech-born grandmother, who emigrated from Czechoslovakia at the age of fourteen, and lived her entire adult life in a strictly Czech neighborhood, surrounded by Czech immigrants... and never spoke a word of English. I'm not saying she didn't understand any English when it was spoken, I suspect she did, although she was an extremely secretive, tight-lipped woman. Now, in her eighties, and much to my dismay, my mother remembers few Czech words, let alone is able to speak it fluently; and, she is still of sound mind. It's because her Czech-speaking relatives, and friends, are long gone, and she hasn't had a strictly Czech conversation with anyone, for over twenty years. I wish this weren't true, as Czechoslovakian, is one of the most difficult languages on the planet to learn, and growing up, we were only allowed to know a few, everyday words in Czech, but for the most part, the Czech adults around us, thought it delightful that they could converse in front of us and we couldn't understand what they were saying. Therefore, they discouraged any knowledge of, or conversations in the Czech language. My Czech vocabulary, now amounts to under a dozen words. I think my mother, now regrets that she didn't teach us to speak the language that ties her to her long gone, beloved grandmother. As descendants, we are all poorer, in that respect, for their choices.

I Already did a video on their physical similarities as well as a facial recognition study conducted by the University of Texas-Austin which concluded that Roberts and the tintype were a match. Thanks for watching. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j557o9yCucqmlp8.html

What evidence do you have to support your contention?

@@brushybret Have you seen Gail cooper MD.... videos. She has like 70 videos that break down all thoughts and ideas about brushy. Pretty solid and makes very valid points.

@@MajDogMeat If Gale Cooper is your sole source, then that explains a lot. I have all of her books, and about 130 other Billy the Kid & Lincoln County War books, and yes, I’ve seen her videos. I don't agree with her at all, but a serious researcher examines all the evidence before arriving at a conclusion. Not only that, but I try and read every book and article that comes out about Billy the Kid and the Lincoln County War that I come across. She and other supporters of the historical status quo list 4 primary reasons that Brushy Bill Roberts wasn’t Billy the Kid: 1. That Roberts was illiterate and billy the Kid could not only read but possessed a beautiful handwriting. 2. That Billy the Kid was fluent in Spanish, and Brushy Bill couldn’t speak Spanish. 3. Prior to claiming to be Billy the Kid, Roberts claimed to have been a member of the James Gang. 4. That William Henry Roberts was really Oliver P. Roberts, born in 1879 and therefor wasn’t old enough to be Billy the Kid. I've made detailed videos on each claim and show the documents and evidence that show that all of these claims are completely unfounded and not based on evidence. Furthermore, if Gale Cooper was so interested in the truth, then why when they tried to exhume Catherine Antrim at Silver City and the body at Ft. Sumner for DNA testing did she fight Steve Sederwall and Tom Sullivan every step of the way? Unfortunately, for some people, being right is more important than getting it right. And that's just sad and unfortunate. Here is a question that I ask every person that parrots a claim made by those that support maintaining the historical status quo that I’ve yet to receive an answer...ever. Perhaps you’ll be the first? How many times do these neo-historians have to be proven wrong before you stop taking them at their word and start demanding proof and verifiable sources, and how many times does Roberts have to be proven right before you afford him at the barest minimum equal consideration? Thanks for watching.

@@brushybret Excellent reply sir. I do not and fear no one does..have the answers. If proof points that Brushy was in fact the Kid, I am all for it. History does show that there are many wannbes out there for a great many famous figures. His seems to fit the mold for what i have sen and read. No, i am Not a historian, just a regular joe with interest. Thanks for all you do sir.

@@MajDogMeat But what actual proof, not hearsay, does she have?

But he wasn't killed in 1881 and couldn't have been born in 1879 as proven in this video.

Lol are you serious? Either you didn't watch or don't speak english and used google translate to comment because he clearly explains this, as per the title of the video...

According to Roberts' Dentist, Dr. Cruz from Gladewater, Texas, Roberts not only did have "buck teeth" but this same Doctor also removed them. As far as not matching the photograph goes: The University of Texas - Austin did a facial recognition study comparing Roberts with the famous Dedrick-Upham Tintype and determined they were a statistical match! Keep in mind this study used The Kaya - Kobayashi system which is a very expensive and complex system that is only available to certain law enforcement agencies and University Research facilities. It's not something the average person has access to. The system measures Intrapupilary Distance, Internal Bi-ocular breadth, External Bio-ocular breadth, Nose Breadth, Mouth Breadth, Jaw Width, Mid-Lip to chin distance, Mid-Lip to Nose distance, Nose Length, and Ears. The study produced a perfect MSE (Mean Squared Error) of 30 for the Dedrick Upham Tintype (for example, the tintype compared to itself would yield an MSE of 30) The photograph of Roberts produced an MSE of 29.3! This is the same method used by law enforcement agencies throughout the world and is one of the most reliable facial recognition programs in existence. Most of the KZfaq videos doing facial recognition are just random internet ding dongs playing around with photoshop or gimp. It's also worth noting that The Kid's former friends and acquaintances said the Dedrick-Upham Tintype wasn't a fair representation of him...some, like the Jones brothers, said it wasn't him at all! Just something to consider. Sources: (A Basic Study On Human Face Recognition by Y. Kaya and K. Kobayashi and The Trial of Billy the Kid by Judge Bob E. Hefner).

so you admit that you're far from a forensic or facial recognition expert, and yet you think you still know better? hilarious

Oh, my stars!!! You've solved the mystery at last! As of this very minute, we can all stop debating, and can rest, assured in your irrefutable declaration. Ahhh.... it's such a relief. We are all forever indebted to you.

With what?

would love to hear your evidence for why you think he's wrong... or are you just trying to cope...

7,5 billion people dont care what a nobody thinks. Thats reality even to a crazy person.

The topic of this video isn't whether Roberts was the Kid or not but rather was he Oliver P. Roberts, which I believe I have sufficiently proven he wasn't based on census, employment, and family genealogical records. If you watch my other videos on Roberts, you will find that the evidence in support of Roberts' claim that he was Billy the Kid far outweighs the evidence against it. Thanks for watching.

This has already been debunked in the University of Texas - Austin Facial Recognition Study. as well as the Study in Ears, which determined the ears were the same. Remember, the original ears in the tintype were almost completely gone and were retouched by Noah H. Rose. Only by using special facial recognition equipment and software can the test read underneath Rose's work and measure the shadow or impression of the tintype. This is all detailed in John Meigs report on the condition of the Dedrick-Upham Tintype in the 1980s to the Lincoln County Heritage Trust. All of these online comparisons are done by amateurs using simple programs like photoshop or gimp and are not a reliable tool for making facial recognition comparisons, particularly on grainy, heavily damaged, and distorted, 140-year-old tintypes that have been "retouched".

I did a video where I discuss this. Thanks for watching. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j557o9yCucqmlp8.html