BRUTALLY HONEST | Graz - Amsterdam - Shanghai in ECONOMY on KLM Asia's decade-old Boeing 777-200ER!

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Few airlines have a network as far-spread as KLM. But does their long-haul Economy Class product, from the entertainment, seats, and legroom, to the catering, beverage selection, and amenities make them a good choice?
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FLIGHT INFORMATION
Airline: KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
Aircraft: Embraer 190 / Boeing 777-200ER
Registration: PH-EXY / PH-BQK
Flight Time: 1h 30min / 11h 30min
Seat: 18F / 34A
From: Graz Thalerhof
Via: Amsterdam Schiphol
To: Shanghai Pudong
Date: December 2023
EQUIPMENT INFORMATION
Cameras used: Canon R6 (Canon 15-35mm F2.6, Canon 100-400mm F5.6-8), iPhone 15 Pro Max, DJI Osmo Pocket, GoPro Hero 8 Black
Additional equipment used: GoPro Suction Cup, Rode VideoMic Pro+, Blue Yeti Podcast Microphone, Joby Bendipod, Aputure AL-MC LED Light, Joby GorillaPod 1K
PRICE BREAKDOWN
Total Price: 12,400 Flying Blue Miles + EUR 165.21
Total Routing: GRZ-AMS-PVG
Booked through: Flying Blue Website
Cost includes: Economy Class Ticket including one checked bag and free seat reservation
Booking made: August 2023
VIDEO BREAKDOWN
00:00 - Preface
01:11 - Intro
01:31 - Graz Airport
02:48 - Flight from GRZ to AMS
06:48 - Transiting at AMS
08:26 - Boarding
09:04 - KLM Asia - What and Why!?
13:38 - Cabin and Seat
14:59 - Taxi and Take Off
16:14 - Dinner Service
17:42 - Inflight Entertainment and WiFi
18:31 - Inflight
19:34 - Breakfast Service
20:11 - Conclusion
23:27 - Landing
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@keisuke5468 Ай бұрын

They kept the KLM Asia so that they can bait Simply Aviation to make a brutally honest video on it 😃🎉

@hac129 Ай бұрын

A diss video LOL 😂

@keisuke5468 Ай бұрын

The employees probably don’t know themselves why KLM Asia exists and just googled it after you emailed them 😂

@zacnewzealand Ай бұрын

Haha😅

@EpicThe112 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 the final destination of KL807/808 the main KLM Asia route route is MNL T1 which makes the crew being Dutch/Flemish Taiwanese and Filipino. Do KL808 back to AMS there's some going to JFK KL643 KL619/618 BOS for PVD. Although KE has the shorter layover via ICN from MNL for BOS

@Archduke17 Ай бұрын

Graz is Arnold Schwarzenegger's hometown. When departing, remember to tell airport staff "I'll be back."

@yaronsteinbuch3956 Ай бұрын

😂

@andysorensen1737 Ай бұрын

Alternatively, if you’re cutting it close: “RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPA!”

@magentilized Ай бұрын

Grazer here!

@espaciobarra Ай бұрын

I can confirm by a fact that Latin Americans really, really like KLM (and Air France also) because it allows them to connect to the rest of the world without a hassle, mainly because transiting via AMS DOES NOT require a visa compared to doing so via the US (which only Chileans can go without lengthy formalities due to visa waivers). KL/AF networks are vast enough to allow them to go pretty much everywhere, and at reasonable prices as well! (Side note: the SCL-EZE fifth freedom flight is also heavily used because KLM offers fantastic full-service fares that are often cheaper than low cost airlines like JetSmart and SKY, and those are as basic as you can get...) Great video, David!

@Nadia1989 Ай бұрын

Yup. Transit at AMS is rough, but is less complicated than LHR, CDG or FRA. I wish they could add travelators between the two terminals.

@odzergaming Ай бұрын

you dont need a visa transiting anywhere other than US and Canada

@goytabr Ай бұрын

@@odzergaming, that is indeed true for most Latin American nationalities at all *MAJOR* connection hubs outside the US and Canada that I can think of, but sometimes a few routes may lead them to some more unusual connecting airports that may require visas. For example, Aeromexico sometimes offers fares attractive enough to tempt passengers from Latin America to Europe to make a long detour through Mexico City, and Mexico now requires a visa for Brazilians and a few other Latin American nationalities (waived if the person has a valid visa for the US or Canada).

@murderboytje Ай бұрын

@@Nadia1989 For an airport its size Schiphols transfers are so easy. As you said compare it to same sized airports like LHR or FRA lol

@espaciobarra Ай бұрын

Chileans have no issues taking advantage of US/CA hubs thanks to ESTA and eTA waivers. I've used LAX and SFO a few times already because of said lack of formalities. The rest of LATAM has it more complicated though. As insane as it sounds, people from there do fly to New Zealand if they need to reach Asia. Same thing goes for DXB or DOH: no formalities. The tradition has always been going via AMS, CDG or FRA though.

@gert1nl Ай бұрын

I really feel the opposite from you about Schiphol. I love that it is all one terminal, that you don't have to transfer with a bus or train to go to different ones. It is also very easy to navigate, impossible to get lost. A walk is very welcome in between 2 flights. Schiphol had huge issues with security / passport lines right after covid, but those times are luckily long gone.

@SEN77788 Ай бұрын

Полностью согласен, это тоже мой самый любимый аэропорт для пересадки и транзита в Европе, это очень удобный аэропорт

@ricardokim95 Ай бұрын

KLM crews have always been very kind and friendly in my flights with them. I've had better experiences with some other airlines, but overall I feel like KLM is one of the most consistent in terms of service quality.

@kawangkwok5262 Ай бұрын

As a Chinese, David really research on the Chinese culture on numbers, and traditional Chinese characters, I don't expect that!

@lzh4950 Ай бұрын

86 is a lucky number in China too I heard, with '8' (八) sounding like the word for 'prosperity' (发/發) & '6' (六) sounding like the word for 'flow' (流) in Mandarin. It's also the country code for mainland China/the PRC. Maybe not a co-incidence. SIA also has its flight numbers for routes serving greater China starting with '8' e.g. SQ872 & 890 for SIN-HKG

@florianpelin Ай бұрын

86 is the Chinese phone code as well, no? +86

@Curzon1999vie Ай бұрын

I think he speaks Mandarin pretty perfectly. Heard him pronounce some Chinese radish or something. He never told us when and why he learned it (so perfectly). Would be really interesting.

@lzh4950 Ай бұрын

@@florianpelin Yup

@hockey1freak 21 күн бұрын

hes not American he isn't indoctrinated to hate China. Good on him to show the respect.

@kingsharkoon Ай бұрын

The only thing I can really get behind regarding the livery is that it protects the "KLM Asia" brand just in case they ever need it again or want to use it for some reason. :)

@soonlytaing1708 Ай бұрын

I mean with the rising tension between China and Taiwan these days, this might be a smart move

@LeviRamsey Ай бұрын

Related: the Dutch are too cheap (or, if you prefer, too starved for resources by Paris...) to spend the money to retire KLM Asia.

@ljacobs357 Ай бұрын

That’s what I think. They are just protecting themselves from possible geopolitical problems between China and Taiwan.

@technl75 Ай бұрын

I would guess that KLM is simply choosing to be prepared for China and Taiwan once again reverting to the tense situation that existed before. It’s a contingency plan. That it hasn’t happened in 20 years is no proof of a failing plan. It’s not like China and Taiwan have resolved their issues, or likely will anytime soon.

@19960959 Ай бұрын

@@technl75As a Taiwanese, I don’t think the issue between Taiwan and China will never be solved in my lifetime.😢

@senabecool7232 Ай бұрын

KLM Asia seems more like a livery than an actual branding, since the plane at timestamp 9:26 also recently flew to non Asia routes like Guayaquil and Quito

@EpicThe112 Ай бұрын

You are correct also the Eastern United States Amsterdam to JFK and Boston Logan. For the KLM Asia flight to Taipei it's actually going to Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport

@Iamwatchingyou75 Ай бұрын

I'm surprised you dislike layovers in AMS. To me, the single terminal concept makes transferring a whole lot more convienient, compared to let's say CDG or FRA.

@upaviation787 Ай бұрын

im at cdg rn lol bout to board a aa 787 to dfw

@Jamie-Fox 24 күн бұрын

I disagree FRA is far more easy and quicker than AMS.

@paulm.westerduin64 4 күн бұрын

@@Jamie-Fox Changing terminals from non-Schengen arrival to Schengen departure (vv) at FRA is a nightmare. Different terminal buildings, different terminal levels, running up and down escalators and endless corridors; so many hurdles to take with tight connection times. No. FRA is a far cry from smooth and convenient transfers.

@Jamie-Fox 4 күн бұрын

@@paulm.westerduin64 well, I do not know why you have such problems. I did not have all those you said.

@paulm.westerduin64 4 күн бұрын

@@Jamie-Fox Well Jamie, lucky you! My experiences transferring at FRA are different.

@JzrCrz Ай бұрын

Yeah, you can see both regular KLM and Asia flying both China and Taiwan today. The only possible answer I can think of is that KLM wants to keep the brand to stay on good terms with China. Currently, KLM is actually the only European airline flying to Taiwan. Maybe that plays a role in them keeping the brand to not upset China. Even though China isn't making a big of a deal about it anymore. Funny enough, you mentioned the fleet of KLM Asia here 12:23 consisting of 9 B777. It's actually 8 now. One of the Boeing 777-300ER (PH-BVC) has been repainted to the regular KLM livery a few months ago. Maybe they're finally starting to drop the brand.

@murderboytje Ай бұрын

I think that was a reason for it indeed. To keep the KLM and KLM Asia fleet seperated with the China and Taiwan conflict. With this ''new'' company they can still fly to Taiwan and China.

@kaffir76 29 күн бұрын

Excellent reply. 100% on point 🙏🙏

@_yying_ 22 күн бұрын

Turkish Airlines fly to TPE as well (although that’s an Asian/European mix?

@vincentvanhuijstee9764 12 күн бұрын

Flying to both China and Taiwan as the only European airline is exactly the reason why KLM Asia exists.

@TurboJuicee 11 күн бұрын

So it was PH BVC that had KLM ASIA before? I knew it, I was wondering why it had regular livery

@sinaasappelflap Ай бұрын

I recently asked klm why there still is an Asia devision. They told me that the crown in the logo is the issue for some countries. It was for countries like Thailand where they are not allowed to show the crown. But these aircraft fly all over the world, also to NA for example.

@whyteaz1165 Ай бұрын

lol definitely not a problem for sino, they prob just want to keep it as a tradition

@theon9575 Ай бұрын

😂 haha... likely story! It sounds good if you say it fast enough, but it doesn't really figure. I wonder which countries they meant? I guess one of them could have been China but the others??? The crown in the KLM logo is simply a reflection of the airline's name KLM, the acronym for "Koninklijk Luchtvaart Maatschappij" (or "Royal Airtravel Company" in English). Those un-named countries object to the logo but not to the "Royal" in KLM's name? Unlikely. It is similar to the English tradition of the King or Queen granting companies by Appointment the right to use "Royal" in their name. In the UK there are many, even jars of marmalade have Royal and a Crown logo. The Royal connection occurs in other airlines, such as Morocco's and Jordan's national airlines. Even in Asia, Royal Brunei Airlines and Royal Nepal etc are not bothered by these un-named countries. Why is KLM and the Dutch Crown singled out? British Airways which carries the Royal Mail, shamelessly shows the British Crown in the logo of the Royal Mail on the fuselage of their aeroplanes but that's not a problem. Why? 😂😱 So I think those people at KLM were fobbing you off with a slick but unlikely & inconsistent explanation 🧐. Why would these un-named countries they told you about object only to the Dutch Crown?

@sinaasappelflap Ай бұрын

@@whyteaz1165it was for countries like Thailand that don’t allow the display of crowns other then their royal stuff

@npligs24 Ай бұрын

Not a problem in China. Crowns and symbols resembling monarchy are okay, so long as China diplomatically recognize the corresponding country, i.e. Dutch, UK, Thailand, or even post-WW Japanese monarchs. But not from states that China doesn't recognize, namely Vatican city.

@theon9575 Ай бұрын

@@sinaasappelflapso Thailand banned Royal Brunei Airlines, and Royal Nepal Air flying in from neighbouring Nepal, and also British Airways aircraft which flagrantly display the British Crown in the Royal Mail logo on their fuselages?? I think not. And which other countries "like Thailand" do you mean?

@Illustriousdarnellofficial Ай бұрын

15:06 The nightmare of all passengers... That crying baby.

@woutergijs5246 Ай бұрын

Correction: I heard 2 and maybe a bit later N°3 joined in😅😅😅

@Hoovie9596 Ай бұрын

You cried when you were a baby

@woutergijs5246 Ай бұрын

@@Hoovie9596as far as I remember, I did never cry .

@Namisincere Ай бұрын

It’s crazy how something so commonplace can still be annoying every time somehow

@Hoovie9596 Ай бұрын

@@woutergijs5246 if you say so

@planeoldsimp272 Ай бұрын

I think they still keep it, simply for fun and also incase something like what happened in the 1990's happens again they will be fine

@EthanPricco 20 күн бұрын

I live near MSP and every now and then a KLM 777 with the KLM Asia livery shows up here. Always fun to see but I remember being so confused about it when I saw it for the first time.

@alex-aviation9890 Ай бұрын

can we talk about how beautiful the KLM livery looks ok the 777 ?

@robloxlovera6362 Ай бұрын

I think cuz of the Delft blue color

@_msraviation Ай бұрын

My favourite KLM livery is the 787-10

@_msraviation Ай бұрын

Although 777 looks beautiful too

@theon9575 Ай бұрын

And the Boeing 747 'Queen of the Skies' looked splendid with this livery. The blue (often called "KLM Blue" here) is unique, and is as Dutch as clogs & tulips! Someone here commented that it reminds of blue in traditional Delft Blauw pottery. I think so too. But I live in Amsterdam, and here KLM blue is the sky colour and the gentle sunlight quality are unique in NL, even commented on by artists like Rembrandt and Vermeer. When I'm overseas and missing 'home', that blue on the KLM plane at the airport touches my heart again .."Ah! Thuis! ❤️ I'm going 'home".

@sub2julianthekang Ай бұрын

Any blue 777 looks good. Say the Korean air 777. It looked very nice. I just flew on one

@Mimi_L. Ай бұрын

The 'generous' legroom is to accommodate the tall Dutchies!

@mohammadghannoum4197 Ай бұрын

i didn't know Dutch people are generally tall

@goytabr Ай бұрын

I'm a short man at 1.67 m or 5'6". I've never been in the Netherlands or flown on KLM, and I guess I would be considered even shorter there. But I did fly on the MD-11 in another airline and route, and as you know, KLM was the last airline to fly that type of plane in passenger service. At the time of my flight, KLM actually had a large fleet of them, and as an aviation buff, I knew that fact. And while I mostly enjoyed the MD-11 experience, I couldn't reach the luggage racks, they were too high for me (the MD-11 was the only aircraft type where this happened). I thought that there must have been some Dutch designers at McDonnell-Douglas, and that the plane being designed for tall people was probably one of the reasons why KLM liked it so much... 😂

@Mimi_L. Ай бұрын

@@goytabr the average height in the Netherlands are 183 cms (6'0) for men and 170 cms (5'7) for women.

@Nicky_TM 11 күн бұрын

@@mohammadghannoum4197 I’m 180cm (5’10?) as a girl and not considered that tall here 💀

@mohammadghannoum4197 9 күн бұрын

@@Nicky_TM are you dutch?

@marco8061 Ай бұрын

Respect to your research on KLM Asia and the figures😃

@nonrevmax Ай бұрын

Considering how spot on you were on the pronunciations @ 20:52 I'm fairly confident you can pronounce Edmonton right. Not once but twice if you wanna get nit picky. Not Edmont

@gunvaldsandhaland7757 Ай бұрын

I Love When Air Craft Have Personal Air Nozzles,I Love Schiphol Its So Easy To Navigate.Great Video And Info

@therealskazzy4721 Ай бұрын

I flew in KLM ASIA from Lima to Amsterdam a few years ago. Amazing flight.

@Aviator_UK Ай бұрын

I took this flight between AMS and Shanghai and I loved every minute of it

@gudfaderncc Ай бұрын

David & co, those kind of videos are SO EXCELLENT!!! ❤️

@Planelover3000 Ай бұрын

the way he pronounced the south amercain citys was just amazing shows how much respect david shows for other places

@Planelover3000 Ай бұрын

OMG HE HEARTED MY COMMENT NICE

@thecatfromsingapore Ай бұрын

Love the fun facts about 8!

@IAmNivash Ай бұрын

I feel the reason why they keep the KLM ASIA Branding is in the event China or Taiwan does not allow any foreign airlines to fly in, KLM ASIA can operate like it is as its made for the China and Taiwan market anyways.

@juanone66 Ай бұрын

For countries that rely so heavily on foreign trade, I doubt that will ever happen.

@Candy-wm4nc Ай бұрын

I’ve seen foreign airlines fly in china and Taiwan

@iflycessnas4707 Ай бұрын

@@Candy-wm4nc read the OP comment again

@ZahraJAnna 13 күн бұрын

Just to add. - There is a service for disabled ppl. You have to reqeust and they wil take you with a smal kart from one terminal to another one (saw that last year) - Al the bleu and white colors are in resembalance of Delfts Blauw, a historic pottery. I love flying with KLM and you video gave that feeling that i always have when i get on one of there planes. Home and adventure :)

@tyw123 Ай бұрын

I actually saw a KLM 777-200ER taking off from my home town of Minneapolis about a week ago now. Watching this video and seeing that plane's registration, I believe Simply Aviation flew on the same aircraft I saw.

@Rens787 Ай бұрын

You said it well the Koninklijke luchtvaart maatschappij, pretty good 🇳🇱

@florianpelin Ай бұрын

Which is still hard for me to pronounce, even if my Dutch is decent

@tita6818 Ай бұрын

10:29　It seems that KLM Asia painted aircrafts were mixed with others KLM aircrafts in 2000s. I took a KLM flight AMS-GRU with B747 combi in KLM Asia paint. Also, KLM Asia B747s were sighted in Japan.

@MelvisVelour Ай бұрын

In many years of flying, I have never seen anyone use the coat hook. I was once tempted to hang a small bag from it but realized it would have been more of an annoyance to the person next to me.

@autisticbirsen Ай бұрын

definitely agree with you on this review especially about the food

@Zentai21 Ай бұрын

I also rode a KLM Asia 747-400 to Manila via Taipei, it was supposed to be a 777-200ER but due to the technical issues I was lucky that they chose the 747 as their substitute aircraft. Flight no. 807

@ZambiblasianOgre Ай бұрын

Just a small clarification for the title: PH-BQK was delivered to KLM in 2005. So it is nearing two decades old now!

@HD-Gaming Ай бұрын

I was at the Amsterdam Airport for Planespotting and actually saw the other KLM Asia plane that you showed, which was scheduled to fly to Somewhere in the US.

@sa8569 Ай бұрын

Great review as always! I recently flew KLM for the first time back in April from Kuala Lumpur to Amsterdam and I was very impressed. That flight was also my very first flight on a 787 Dreamliner :) I would certainly fly with them again in the future. On that same trip in April I also flew with Air France for the first time and was just as impressed with their long haul Economy product. Air France's newest A350's have dimmable windows which was a surprise :) Looking forward to your upcoming reviews :)

@majgijoe Ай бұрын

I'm impressed you used the conjunction of y'all when talking about the beer. There are few locations where that is very prevalent.

@LoveDiveChannel Ай бұрын

The KLM Asia aircraft with nosename "Nahanni National Park" (registered PH-BQN) is still lingering in my mind tho. I glad had a chance to photographed him in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia back in 2018

@ishanpai1791 Ай бұрын

Hehe, I flew exact same aircraft in December 2022 and it was a KLM Asia Plane (Reg PH-BQH) operating from AMS-BOM. They fly sometimes these aircraft to Asia and they look almost the same as a regular KLM Aircraft. Regardless, ther service is always great & crew is always friendly.

@fritskleinenhammans2388 Ай бұрын

Assigned to economy comfort seats for free if requested at checkin counter? Thanks for the advice! Actually these seats also recline, the old ones all did and economy, and in comfort even further

@matteoarlotti6479 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip about booking and flying blue!

@jarrettalyssaneville1122 Ай бұрын

All KLM flight numbers to the Far East Asia starts with 8 (809 to KUL- Jakarta), Africa with 5, North America 6, Latin America 7, Middle East 4.

@erik_griswold Ай бұрын

Clever!

@bigdd15 Ай бұрын

I support the theory that it is kind of a 'redundancy', international politics, especially regarding to China and Taiwan, can be very unpredictable.

@carlk3989 Ай бұрын

I see you met with our Dutch way of working style. The rule is simple: work as less as possible, use anything that makes your work easier. It isn’t important if that makes your work low quality, wrong or etc. As long as it isn’t terrible, defend your work to death 😂😂😂 I think KLM Asia exists because it makes KLM looks a bit more global. Like “big in Asia” so to say. This is only a speculation of course. Another Dutch thing to know: do not seek too much of meaning behind things 😂

@matteoarlotti6479 Ай бұрын

Broodje for life ahha

@n.q163 Ай бұрын

I have an idea about a tripreport. I am very curious about the Corendon a350 with the adult only section. Is it worth it on a 9 hour flight from Amsterdam to Curaçao? Or is it just a gimmick.

@Nadia1989 Ай бұрын

Two years ago I had to transit at Schiphol with a sprained ankle. Never again. 10:12 the shade!

@PotatoGod6969 21 күн бұрын

these videos are just so good to watch when you have hours of nothing to do keep it up

@ryanfrisby7389 Ай бұрын

Fantastic video David!😸

@yaronsteinbuch3956 Ай бұрын

Great review with impressive research! ✈️

@yilunjin8705 Ай бұрын

Hi David, nice work! Glad that you go to my hometown of Shanghai, and your extensive research of KLM Asia (especially when the previous article by simple flying is wrong :)). Besides, I am pretty impressed by your understanding about Chinese culture such as the number 8 in the flight numbers (which I don't know previously), and your knowledge about the 88 resembling 囍, which I don't know either. Thank you for your nice work and efforts, and wish you had a good time in Shanghai (mega-city in your words)! By the way, I echo your thoughts on non-alcoholic heineken!

@erik_griswold Ай бұрын

I once flew a Continental Micronesia DC-10 from SFO to EWR. Maybe you could do a video on why the was a KLMuk.

@JelmersAviation Ай бұрын

Beautiful video man!

@basicthunder Ай бұрын

maaad respect for you actually showing the take offs and landings

@robg5317 Ай бұрын

You guys need to go to Belize and take a trip or two on the awesomeness that is Tropic Air

@KaranSingh5 Ай бұрын

I've been on KLM Asia during my two flights SFO-AMS-DEL. Both of it being 777-200Es. But the flight from SFO-AMS was so much better than flight to Delhi. Even though both were economy. The food was so much better. And the transit at Amsterdam was also were very smooth for me since I was coming from North America. I would love to fly them in future again. Their crew was also amazing! 😍💯

@tonymartin9938 Ай бұрын

It is a Dutch airline. The Dutch love apples and apple products. I grew up with apple juice and apple pastries and products like apple crumble for dessert. Still love all of these. This helps make it Dutch to me. Just wish one got the little delft bottles in economy though.

@raphaelsalvador4413 Ай бұрын

8:40 you forgot Singapore, while it is multi-ethnic, it is majority Chinese-speaking. KLM's flight numbers there are KL835 and KL836

@Mo_Honcho 14 күн бұрын

because of routes limits at schiphol, to keep more slots

@dabby Ай бұрын

I flew on a KLM Asia plane from JFK-AMS earlier this year and was confused as to how that works, glad I'm not the only one confused about KLM Asia

@bowlofrice7242 Ай бұрын

Not sure about the Shanghai, Beijing and Taipei route. But the flight from AMS to HKG should be KL 887, while HKG to AMS is KL 888

@dannycnoble Ай бұрын

i was just in Schipol in february connecting Delta to Cityhopper and i found it pretty painless. then again we where in at 6am. so that could be the reason why. Also we flew on CityHopper to LCY and 1 agree with you 100% about the legroom. i am 6ft 6 (182 cm and the main reason i like your videos as we are almost the same height).

@Ouchie Ай бұрын

According to the Dutch Chamber of Commerce (KVK), there is no KLM Asia (anymore?). There is only KLM (Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. KVK 33014286) , KLM Cargo (KVK 33014286) and KLM Cityhopper B.V. (KVK 34035358)

@thofstee Ай бұрын

If it's still there it's probably registered in a different country. You won't find that information at the KvK.

@Ouchie Ай бұрын

@@thofstee I would expect it to be registered in the Netherlands or France, but neither has any results. Doesn't seem logical to me that it is registered in a completely different country, but am no expert in that

@LeviRamsey Ай бұрын

@@Ouchie KLM Asia had at least in the past been incorporated in Taiwan.

@Ouchie Ай бұрын

@@LeviRamsey It is also not listed in their Subsidiaries list in their anual report 2023 (KLM-Annual-Report_2023.pdf page 230). So I think it doesn't exist anymore and just kept the name on their aircraft livery

@A.mortaz_ Ай бұрын

Its registerd in honkong

@ablietski 5 күн бұрын

The 772's are the last planes that have been scheduled for the cabin refresh (incl. the addition of Premium Economy). They expect to finish within the coming months. It also seems you had one of the last non-refurbished aircraft.

@Aleksssssssss 10 күн бұрын

I hope they will keep KLM Asia. It's iconic

@delta049 15 күн бұрын

I work at AMS and I get what you're saying that it can be a long walk to your new gate. Although I saw you were pretty unlucky with your departure gate, being at the end of the E pier. It can indeed get insanely crowded in the waiting lounges.

@martijnrijnbeek5299 Ай бұрын

The klm asia is i think only an livery. These planes are also send to usa and latin america and africa. I have flown to taipei in a klm regular plane

@mrgeckoguy Ай бұрын

I always use KLM Asia when going to the UK I love KLM.

@Anas-ij8qf Ай бұрын

Thanks it helping me

@vasiliospantazopoulos9574 Ай бұрын

I'm impressed you said "y'all" on your beer rant! 😂

@simply_aviation Ай бұрын

felt like a y'all kinda moment haha

@vasiliospantazopoulos9574 Ай бұрын

@@simply_aviation Informative and entertaining as always. Good work.

@dermann439 Ай бұрын

no problem with alcohol free beer but...where was the beer? All I could see was a can of Heineken

@aguythatlovesmilk2611 Ай бұрын

Glad to know dutch east india Company is still operating

@clintw567 Ай бұрын

You‘ve pointed it right. KLM used to be such a great airline. Since AF-KLM seems to be the french have the upper hand in that regard. Back in the 2000‘s I remember as a kid I could have taken the kids meal out after arrival. And that impression is still kept. AF-KLM should balance the offers as You mentioned. „Egalite“. KLM will always be in my heart as a former little flying dutch man.

@tanay25 25 күн бұрын

Thank you for such an amazing review!

@brianking768 Ай бұрын

Loved the use of “y’all” at 17:06.

@juanone66 Ай бұрын

David obviously linguistically talented. This video also featured Castillilan Spanish, Dutch (or Nederlandisch for purists) and his usual flawless English.

@Win2User Ай бұрын

Can you do Malaysia Airlines' new product offerings on the 737 MAX and A330neo soon? Great video as always! :D

@CalebdeOliveiraHilleshein Ай бұрын

I like your videos!❤❤❤

@TheRollingBear Ай бұрын

great video 🧊🧊🤪🤪

@ronaldderooij1774 Ай бұрын

I think you are one of the few people in the world disliking Schiphol airport. It is extremely easy to navigate for such a huge airport. As for KLM Asia, I think it is just a livery for potential political issues, as you said. And KLM is as Dutch as Air France is French. Dutch culture hates "over the top". You said it correctly, but did not realise the Dutchness of that "blandness".

@user-so8tq3xn9c Ай бұрын

Interesting video. I am an extremely frequent flier on both AF and KL long haul in Y and although I admit immediately that AF J is a league above KL, KL’s Y product is a league above AF. Yes AF serves a cheap champagne but how does it taste? I believe the wine in KL is of better quality, as is their whole catering. Cute little bag from AF but the content is of low quality, stale bread and processed foods. Also, in general, the service is more personal on KL than AF in Y, plus I believe also that KL is more Dutch than AF is French. There are so many references to The Netherlands, for example the safety video that you refer to from AF but not KL. I agree that serving 2 apple items is unfortunate but the product itself is totally different. What airline serves hot towels in Y? It does cost a lot as you need crew to warm them up and serve which takes at least double, if not triple the time. And then they have to pick them up again. Not dfeasable in Y. Good job with “Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij”😊😜 But the direct translating is actually “Royal Aviation Company”

@seanatd3224 Ай бұрын

SQ serves hot towels in Y

@Birry2000 Ай бұрын

Can you make a video about Garuda Indonesia economy class?

@MontyPythonQueen614 Ай бұрын

Y'all should do an airline related tier list, like a seat tier list, airline tier list, airliner plane tier list, airline food tier list etc

@gamerboy77985 Ай бұрын

Nice video and work🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

@DeviousFink Ай бұрын

I'm just gonna play 20:55 over and over again in my dreams 😍

@jonathanbeaumont3021 Ай бұрын

I remember KLM serving hot towels in economy pre-covid, when they flew 747s. I really miss it.

@hoangminhx007 Ай бұрын

Hope David can discover VietJet Air too. I hope to see David's opinion about this low cost carrier compare to some other low cost carriers

@christophermcdonald1122 19 күн бұрын

What interests me the most is the fact that one of the KLM Asia aircraft is named "Nahanni National Park"--a famous national park in the Northwest Territories of Canada, nowhere near Asia!

@aviation4germany Ай бұрын

ist increadibile that the still operate them

@bobbybonboni Ай бұрын

Thanks so much for explaining the reasons for using (and not using) certain numbers in flights to China! I appreciate the shared knowledge. I wonder if keeping the Asia livery has something to do with the history of kingdoms in Asia that could have triggered the removal of the crown?

@scorpionqg Ай бұрын

Omg its like KLM flight from Minsk to Prague, didn't know it existed

@irisroeleven Ай бұрын

11:51 😂 I’ve read somewhere on the internet that it’s just these liveries that are still in service, but I don’t remember where I read it and I also don’t know why these liveries are still around 🤷🏻‍♀️

@JakobIsaiahLadiero Ай бұрын

Have you takin Cebu Pacific? If you haven’t, please try them out. I just flew them a few hours ago, and I had a pretty decent flight

@harugl12 Ай бұрын

To add to the intrigue, I actually saw a KLM Asia plane the other day... in YUL of all places!

@OliDeu Ай бұрын

It allows them to operate fifth freedom flight between TPE & MNL.

@wietsebloemsma765 Ай бұрын

Heyy, KLM is slowly changing the liveries at the moment, the PH-BVC has recently been painted in the normal livery.

@jouniairplanevideos Ай бұрын

That doesn't say anything.

@MikeySeedot Ай бұрын

I see what you did at 6:29! That 777 was gonna be your next ride :D

@CesardelaCruzCurril-gf8ob Ай бұрын

I live in switzerland and for business reasons I fly two to three times a month with AF -KLM to Lima and Santiago de Chile since 2008. always business class. AF is a nightmare as far as service and luggage delays and KLM is very poor with their monotonous horrible food. However , I must admit that KLM is efficient with punctuality . I recommend LATAM and or Delta.

@anshudipkarn Ай бұрын

12:56 they forgot to remove the crown logo inside the cabin lol

@leszekprzystasz9834 Ай бұрын

What about the transfer in Frankfurt? Because the distance to be covered is certainly greater there, as I recently found out when trying to catch the return flight Cancun-Frankfurt-Poznan

@AF-im9cc Ай бұрын

Is it maybe possible for you guys to review KLM’s new premium comfort class? Also more premium economy videos? Thank you very much and kudos for the excellent content 🎉❤