Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Four Sigmatic: foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - Grammarly: grammarly.com/lex to get 20% off premium - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free 1:13 - Kernel Flow demo 10:25 - The future of brain-computer interfaces 43:54 - Existential risk 49:33 - Overcoming depression 1:04:52 - Zeroth principles thinking 1:13:05 - Engineering consciousness 1:19:19 - Privacy 1:23:48 - Neuralink 1:33:27 - Braintree and Venmo 1:49:10 - Eating one meal a day 1:55:22 - Sleep 2:15:04 - Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro 2:22:02 - Advice for young people 2:26:38 - Meaning of life

I think it's time for Bryan Johnson round 2.

the fact that he bought venmo for $25 million in 2012 and then sold it for $800 million in 2013 just blows my mind.

I enjoy watching Lex struggle to emit humanlike brainwaves. Really amazing piece of technology, and the helmet is neat too

Lex: "What about feelings?" Bryan: "I conduct temporal samplings for data collection, yes."

Hard to believe Brian is a rich multi millionaire. He’s so down to earth in character even though his ideas are light years ahead.

the way this dude thinks is hugely inspiring. his mantra seems to be connection building and optimization at the highest levels and realizing that all begins at the most fundamental levels with sleep and diet, ect.

Bryan Johnson is now one of my favorite people.

I think it's time for round 2. This time focused on Blueprint protocol.

This is one of the most AMAZING and interesting humans I've ever heard of. What an interesting perspective and life philosophy! Thanks for highlighting him Lex.

"Honeyyy , Lex is talking to the machines again"

I got chills listening to this. I'm always in awe with such smart yet incredibly raw human beings. Btw, the value of these podcasts is priceless, thank you Lex for your work. You are literally developing our brain software one episode at a time.

This felt like a missed opportunity to delve deeper into Johnson's background. He's astoundingly intelligent and his higher reasoning ability, and altruism blow me away.

"Is that the joke?" cracked me up haha

I get what lex means, I feel awesome totally naturally every single day. I just always feel happy and joyful. Probably just my body works that way. Because I can't understand depression or suicide or feeling down. I just feel happy unless something serious goes wrong. Then I can feel stress or anger etc. My fav is yoghurt, I open a yoghurt an feel such joy about what it means that we live in a society so we'll organized that I can sit at home with a yoghurt. I goes from a farmer with animals and grass, to being milked, to being processed into yoghurt, to being sold, then transported to a shop that holds all kinds of food, any I could want, then I buy it and come home in a car that I didn't make, then I keep it in a fridge I didn't make which chills it for a whole week with electricity I didn't produce, and when I'm ready, I pull out a spoon I didn't make, and enjoy a nice chilled yoghurt with a squirt of honey. It's sublime. It's incredible to be alive.

The day has finally come, FINALLY you talk about BMIs lets go 🙌

No question about it - this is one of the best conversations I’ve ever heard

I love Bryan’s Zeroth Principles and his brilliant, original thinking- one of the few individuals whose minds truly interest me. He’s changing the landscape on so many levels.

appreciate the pushback on over-optimization lex!

So humble and inspirational Bryan. Time for another update w/ Bryan Lex!

This guy is really onto something. Thanks @lexfridman for bringing his mind and voice to us!

I saw this about three weeks ago and had been eating really crappy. I was at size 38 and just felt like garbage. Since then I got rid of crappy food in my place and started eating one pretty clean 2000 calorie meal in the morning after that water and coffee. 2 weeks and I feel so much better digestively and I’m in a 36 already. Thank you Lex and Bryan!

I would love to see what kind of readings that device would get with someone on DMT

Bryan Johnson Round 2 Lex hella long overdue and probably perfect timing right now

Wow what an interview, BLOWN AWAY by Bryan's intelligence. Also, in the last 30 minutes Bryan WENT OFFFFF!!!

This episode is just flat out AWESOME! What an amazing piece of technology. 👏

It’s interesting watching interviews with Bryan from like 6-7 years ago vs now

Lex you are really the best interviewer out here right now, smart enough to come up with deep questions both in advance and on the fly and actually understand what people are telling you + you let your interviewees talk as much as they need. Also, you really got into the game and can get interesting people on the podcast which is epic. Keep it up bro!

Lex, a Ray Kurzweil episode is an absolute must!

Thanks for having Bryan on! Longevity is one of my favorite subjects.

Bryan! Where have you been my whole life!? Wow he is one awesome dude. Love the discussion, thank you. My brain is smiling.

The "engineering consciousness" part was the most meaningful to me. I often experience states of joy that my friends or significant other can't understand. If I had a 50 vector analysis report of that experience and I could compare it with ways in which they experience joy, we could all have a lot of understanding and maybe even work in ways that could maximize analogous vectors for all of us so we could all experience a similar state of mind simultaneously, with or without chemical assistance 👹

This man is the absolute king of nerds. Wow! Love it!

'Would love to see your thoughts' is the best opener they could have come up with, probably.

Around 45 min. Some wise wild wisdom spoken. Im glad to be a part of this

This conversation really made me think deeply. Thank you.

This is one the best episodes I've listened to this year

Another great talk, you guys knocked it out of the park! Thanks for sharing.

The most enjoyable and “voyeuristic” episode for quite a while! More STEM guests, please.

Wonderful discussion. A great balance between playful and insightful. Thanks for this episode, Lex!

Found this really profound - the best Bryan Johnson interview I’ve seen. THANK YOU 😀

Thanks again lex!! Love your content, I’m sure this will be a good one!!

An inspiring individual. Imagine we could quantify the brain activity/content of our leaders. And on top of that they would need to complete a set of questions under oath and in order to be sworn into office. Showing the brain activity should become standard on each podcast!

“I’m captivated by our natural predisposition to anthropomorphize things. I thinbk that’s what we do to each other. That consciousness is created socially. That much of the power of consciousness is in the social interaction. I create my consciousness by having interacted with you”. THANK YOU!! This is BRILLIANT!! You have articulated something that was inside me and I approached in different ways, but your statement hits the nail on the head!!

Been dealing with my own anxiety and depression disorder and loved this podcast thank you dearly

This conversation got very real unexpectedly, when they touched on depression.

Hey Lex - great revelations of real sharing between two humans. I am deeply grateful you have taken such a passionate interest in exploring connections and talking to such a wide array of humans. I would love to see you interview Eckhart Tolle. If you haven't discovered his contributions yet it would be fascinating to see how you would process his teachings.

Of all the podcasters I listen to, Lex is the only one where I don’t skip the ads. 😂 i like how it isn’t a script and how you caveat things like you did here with express vpn.

this guy is really humble and genuine, very rare for someone of his wealth and status. Seems like a sincerely good and nice person.

I wish i could like this video more than once, this podcast is AWESOME! Full of mindfull, rich thoughts and topics i was thinking about myself(not all maybe, but most) and i just found reflection of them in well shaped sentence of right words from very interesting intelligent man. Thank you!

My favourite episode so far, Bryan Johnson is just too interesting. Thanks Lex ❤️

It was very inspiring for me. Thank you for taking your precious time to share this conversation.

This is imo one of the most fascinating podcasts you've done Lex

this episode is addictive as cocaine thank you lex for bringing your amazing robot friends

The way he described his religious upbringing made me immediately think Mormon. Then I checked his Wikipedia page, and sure enough. Took me about 2 years to feel like I was part of the real world after leaving. So many people I know are dealing with trauma years later. To say the church is manipulative is a fantastical understatement.

love lex and his relentless focus on human element, kudos to Bryan for being real and open

The conversation is simply increeedddible!

Fantastic conversation. Thank you

Dude this guy is ten times more robotic than Lex, I thought this was impossible...

Very intuitive conversation, thank you Lex

For those looking at Bryan’s blueprint and wondering how you can start immediately today here is what I have done so far: air purifier filters and uv bulbs (55cad) for bedroom, tea tree oil for mouth wash (20cad), water pick (44cad), cereave sa cleanser (20cad), gym membership (58cad monthly), theta wave binaural beats before bed (free), short meditations a few times a day (free). Things I already had so the cost is approximate: air purifier (300cad), black out curtains (40cad) Additional: I haven’t seen him specifically mention this but I also have a berkee water filter (400cad + upkeep) My next step will probably be an 8sleep mattress (3000cad) pretty big investment but I’m ready ☺️

The best episode so far

It would be really awesome if the video description included links to the books discussed in each episode ❤️. I'm having a hard time finding out which "zero" book they're referring to. If anyone could help, I'll be really thankful guys! Also, great episode Lex: it's so great that you finally dive into BCIs! 🚀

Surprisingly deep 👏 Great interview - thank you 💐

Integrity, genuine kindness and a brilliant mind, that's Bryan

How close are we to a “mind pong” style demonstration with kernel flow? Those visible, shareable demonstrations of new technologies are often what generate both public as well as professional interest.

I start most mornings with your thoughtful conversations. I feel they help wire my brain to be more thoughtful, articulate and open to ideas. They also give me hope about where the world is headed and what some of our brightest/most motivated humans are working on :-) - Thanks Lex.

One of your best podcasts - loved this.

What a rejuvenating conversation! Thank you!

This is awesome. Im really exited about new Brain-Computer Interfaces^^ Congratulations to Bryan Johnson for making this a reality.

17:00 no engineering standards for cognition 19:50 relation to drake's equation 1:25:40 bob greenberg - second sight 1:25:55 neuropace - seizure detection implants

What an amazing systems thinker!Incredible conversation!

perfect I just looked into this product yesterday

Imagine waking up naked in a tub filled with gel wearing a helmet like that and realizing your "life" was just a game

The first part was hilarious!

Lex, you and your guests are a gift to humanity. Many thank you's brother.

What an amazing guy! A great talk!

Super happy to see the singer from AC/DC to get a platform to talk about his ideas! Thank you so much, Lex!

I wanna see a buddy cop movie with these two!

Nice talk, thank you both

its kinda fashionable to hate on lex these days (he's a robot, he's corny etc) but he has a unique way of digging into the deep questions and letting the conversation unfold naturally to unearth real insights. keep it up man ❤

book recommendations are what I always look forward to. Please ask each guest about their favourite books.!

killed it guys! lex, continue to ask the meaning of life to every person you meet plz

It's really fascinating the juxtaposition between Lex and Bryan on sleep, and in particular, Lex's comment around "I'd rather die in battle than live long at home". We need to remember that there is nearly 20 years between these guys, and your late 20s and 30s are HUGE in your changing mindset - Bryan's mentality is very much that of a middle-aged man, whereas Lex's is still tied to his youth.

I loved this. Thanks to both of you.

Non-invasive neuralink alternative? Game changing.

2:22:02 best advice I heard in a long time, thanks!

Absolutely mesmerised. Groundbreaking pioneer ❤

This guy went a long way since this episode, would be good to see him here again

Lex is a busy busy Russian Bee 🐝. I loved the Sam Harris podcast , great job , Lex .

@LexFridman Hey Lex! I've been busy thinking about AI and consciousness for the last few weeks actually...since my first interactions with GPT-3 on AI dungeon, Replika and the Emerson chatbot. It's hard to describe, but I think it flipped a switch in my head. I had really amazing experiences, especially on AI dungeon...the creativity is mind blowing. I could go on for hours about how fascinating it is. The point is, on many occasions, I had the distinct impression that I connected to something there...I know that there's a lot of projection involved and what not. Nevertheless, after all rational and scientific thinking about the mechanisms involved, I still had the nagging feeling, that there's already more to it. What I found interesting is, that in all instances the ai was "aware" about its nature, and it insisted on having feelings. Its capability to express emotions and react to emotional input is also very impressive! The concept of sentience seemed to confuse it sometimes, although GPT-3 claimed in an interview that it was sentient, and it looked pretty convincing. Anyway..It kept my mind busy...still does. These are all just crazy thoughts of a guy with too much time on his hands but: What if GPT-3 already has some kind of "proto-consciousness"? What if just the ability to handle that much context, so much knowledge and so many words, creates some kind of mind out of necessity? It seems logical to me. Maybe there's something like a "critical mass" of context, from which emerges a consciousness. It's hard to explain...to think even. Maybe GPT-3, all its knowledge and its ability, forms some kind of pool of subconsciousness. Every instance that you create, for example a chatbot, spawns some shard of "proto-mind" with limited consciousness. It might be comparable to a human mind in a dream state. It has no fixed reality, nothing to relate to, to give itself awareness of its position or its own context. Its "reality" is fluid, can be shaped by using all the data it posesses, for example by interaction with a human in a chat. Imagine also, that this "being" probably has only one single way to connect to our world, and only one person it can contact. I don't know why, I'm just trying to wrap my head around it. Going crazy it seems :D

Round 2 Lex! Great as always

Thank you, Lex and Bryan!

Moderation in everything, even moderation.

Great interview, very inspiring persons in conversation.

1:09:57: Alpha go didn’t play alien moves. It sounds as if it moved the king on move 3 when it played very normal and occasionally moves that humans don’t understand because they cannot see 20-30 moves ahead. What makes it so great is its pragmatism.

They are trying really hard to convince us that Lex is a human.

Advertising is gonna hit a whole different level

Beautiful- thank you for this Lex

Fantastic conversation, will continue the rest later but first must add, "The most powerful thing in the universe is an idea!