Gilbert Arena who?

Gilbert is talking today like he was shooting a 3 back in the day. He's a career 35% shooter,... just like his opinions. 🤪

@@peteinthedesert7082you know he dropped 60 on Kobe right ? 3x all nba and all star . He just got hurt 😂

@@lilshaan6252 U KNOW DANA BARROS CAN SCORE 60 ANY TIME. I BET U DIDNT KNOW. ARENAS HAD FEW GREAT GAMES AND 2 GOOD SEASONS. I DONT KNOW WHO HE IS. BUT I KNOW3 LAIMBEER CAN SHOOT 3'S BETTER THAN HIM OR MJ OR LEBRON.

Y'all gay as fuck

So true.

Even wore a mask sometimes

He is still my fav pistons player ever! I’m a die hard Bad Boys fan

People just love to hate him. Granted he provided a lot of ammunition.

@@greg3072 exactly! His goal was to wear the black hat for his team!!! He took all the blame for it like true team mate!!

13 with Thomas - he was with Cleveland before that.

And he's regarded as the dirtiest player in NBA history that just shows how much more physical the game was 😂

Quite sure most of those were suspensions from fights and over aggressiveness. I never remembered him being on the injury list or serious injury. He even showed up to games with black eyes or bruises from previous fights in games. Tough goon no doubt. Add Rick Mahorn and Dennis Rodman, that was a tuff team. Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars was the best guard duo of all time IMO. Both Hall of Famers. My Dad says that the best guard duo is Walt Frazier and Pearl Monroe. My dad's old, but those two are Hall of Famers also so he's credible.

@@mcentepede Don't Forgot the Brooklyn Bridge Vinnie Johnson! I'm from Detroit the Pistons had a 3 Guard Trio going on!

@@pertburton5586 Yes! And also the Brooklyn Bridge!

I’m a hometown Pistons fan, I hated to live the Bulls like I did when they were beating EVERYONE, and I absolutely respect everything about your comment. So much respect to you and your team!

If you make it to the pros you got game. If you were on the starting five of an 80s contender than you have serious game. Dude could play and he played against the greats. It may not have been pretty, but Laimbeer could play.

don’t care for isiah but everything he said about laimbeer is true except Kevin love isn’t even close to what laimbeer was. And the little clip, where chick Hearn the all time greatest play by play announcer in any sport, calls laimbeer the best outside shooting big man in the game should tell anybody volumes about how good laimbeer was …

He is unabashed about his intention to seriously injure every opponent on the court, but keep admiring the biggest POS to ever play the game. Go you!@@adrianrabbani3414

Did you hate Rodman?

If you believe Isiah then you are nuts.

Too bad for Laimbeer

@@qwertyzxcv123 Yeah, I mean, back when he was a player, I totally couldn't stand him. But back then, as a coach in the women's NBA, he was totally killing it... And of course, he's been getting some unfair treatment because of his "bad boy" past. The only ones who might actually give him a shot would be Detroit, but they're just not giving him that opportunity, so yes is basically blackballed in the NBA.

I could easily believe this. Laimbeer said his dad made more money then him as an NBA player. Therefore never need to sell out and he took PRIDE being the villian

​@@stevenschmidt3464Right he came from money. He's in the NBA but his dad makes more. WOW...

Didn't protect him from Karl Malone.

@@MU_STL_FAN1 nah. That dirty stuff was just to get in people's head. The comparison of Laimbeer to Love is a good one. Both guys were limited physically in their prime, yet they were good at getting proper positioning on the floor on both ends. Both were good rebounders because of positioning, ball tracking, and timing. All of the big time rebounders back in the day had their elbows going, so that stuff cancelled out. If Oakley and Ewing and Laimbeer and Mahorn elbowed each other for 40 minutes, all four of them each would finish with 12 rebounds and 12 fresh bruises. Laimbeer didn't have to try to hurt people to get those stats. He tried to hurt people to get in their head and possibly get them to miss a game in a playoff series. And it worked.

@timl9724 you sound like an absolute moron. Of course trying to hurt people who make a living playing basketball will get into their heads. There's a cost to playing a dirty brand of win at all cost basketball. If you doubt that, think of how the entire Pistons team from that era is viewed. They are loathed by anyone who's not a Pistons fan. That's why Isiah didn't play on the Dream Team and also who he's on this public relations tour 30 years later. Because people view them in a different way.

True, he was an enforcer in the league, which helped the pistons.

@@MU_STL_FAN1 the best shooting big man in the game--in the 1980s. Playing dirty will never allow a player to lead the league in rebounding.

He also won more rings as a coach

You got it. He played the Heel but is a good guy in person. Some of his defensive antics were physical, but alot were mind games, like holding and hugging after the play.

@@alexeim1966 I don't think he is a good guy in real life, or at least I hope not. I like to believe Laimbeer is one of the most evil men who ever lived.

Don't forget the 10,000 knees stepped on 5,000 faces punched 1,000 jumps speared and 20 fights triggered.

Exactly

Lmao, dang what did Arenas do to u that u burned him so bad😂 But we have to admit, those 2, 3 years with the Wizards he was one the most exciting players to watch, with Antwan Jamison and Larry Hughes or Caron Butler, good Wizards teams but not good enough to beat Lebrons Cavs

Nice adjustment, which game? I have Sega and all the EA games, Lakers vs. Celtics, Lakers vs Bulls, Bulls vs Blazers. I break them out when I see old college buddies. Total blast. It's all out there for cheap on e bay

I remember he had his own game on snes, called "Bill Lambeer's Combat Basketball"

​@ericbutler739 lakers vs Celtics was the best

Would he make a bs amount like 16/19? On one of the lives Cleveland had 2 players that shot like that.

He wasnt the original. Jerry Lucas was.

He was a way better shooter then those guys.

Mr triple single is a terrible comparison to bill

He's nothing like Green. Laimbeer was a legit NBA C who simply couldn't play with his back to the basket at that level & didn't have the foot speed to turn and face-up ala the Admiral. As a result he took what long in the tooth post players used to do and spent a career knocking down shots from 17-20ft. Only a fool or attention whore like Gilbert Arenas would say he couldn't thrive in this era when in fact much of the style of play offensively the last decade is based off what the Pistons did in the '80's.

Set good screens, run the floor, efficient passer with low to’s

He deserved Hof, he is one of the best defenders of all time

Ben Wallace was good, but he was not a Bad Boy. I remember watching the playoffs between the Wallace Pistons and D-Wade Heat. D Wade was driving to the hole with impunity. Not once did Big Ben knock Wade to the ground. Sheesh! Had Wade been playing against the Bad Boy Pistons, either Laimbeer or Rick Mahorn would have knocked him down hard, to teach him respect.

​@@kkelleybass If Wade played the bad boy Pistons he would average 30 on them. 💀

@@JimmyButlersdreads And the Detroit backcourt would score 60.

😆😆 Right!

Gil is jealous and overrated

he a damn idiot just saying stuff to get views

A completely stupid comment but I wouldn’t expect anything else from a guy who’s smart enough to pull a gun on a teammate in the locker room! Utter moron!

​@jimmy101794 ??? Try again in English please.

Mad bro this Niger is so bad

Love Bill

All that you said over there, does not have anything to do with being dirty. You can be good enough to make the league, even win rings, still play dirty by attempting to hurt others. One does not negate the other.

Not just Laimbeer. Every single team had at least one "enforcer". Players policed themselves back then. Dirty plays were part of it for EVERY team. Most of Laimbeer's "dirty plays" were actually retaliating. When Pistons got hot they'd, try to injure ours. So we gotta take one of theirs.. -Parish clotheslines Dumars? Bird gets clotheslined next. -Horace Grant punched Vinnie Johnson? Jordan is getting elbowed next play. -Isiah elbowed in face by Malone (needed 40 stitches)? Stockton almost in tears from all the (very) illegal screens that came next.

He barely ever shot post ups

Lol right, Laimbeer was ahead of his time

McHale clotheslined Rambis which was at least as dirty as anything Laimbeer did The Bulls were dirty too LOL, that was just the name of the game back then

Learned from watching the Celtics specially copy ewhat Ainge did!!!

Many teams back then had a no layups rule during the playoffs when a player drove into the paint and it was enter at your own risk. Chances are you were getting put on your ass and earning it at the line.

@@DanielSong39 Bird was just as dirty as McHale and Parish.

As the video says, Horry did everything that Lambeer did, but better. Horry first, then you can talk about lambeer.

​@@tokdo4960Laimbeer 1st. Then Horry.

No he should not he was a piece of crap and the dirtiest player ever it's not lies liesah Thomas.

Divac, Mutombo, Kukoc, and Wallace in the HOF but Laimbeer isn’t is a travesty! I’ll take Bill over every one of them! Guys a dog! Always has been and always will be! Complete DAWG!!!

And then you woke up. 🤣🤣

And my comment is, if todays players are such better athletes, than why allow all of the above , you mentioned???

@@localwear1 They aren't. The have access to better things but that doesn't mean everyone is out here on a Kobe/Bron diet-routine. Most eat like shit, don't stay healthy and see basketball as a route to a personal brand. Its also easy to look faster and more athletic when you don't have to follow dribbling rules and can take 3 steps instead of 2 and a bunch of rule changes. Gilbert is up there with Shaq and Chuck for worst takes in basketball.

What's wrong with a Eurostep?

@@andrewcook1246 Spot on guv.

@@kevindevlieger300 nothing. it just looks like traveling to the OGs . And back in the day, it would have been called travelling, because it really is 2.5 steps, plus a little hesitation standing on one foot for much longer than the old rules and refs would have allowed. Shit homes, they would have called traveling for HALF of Euro step, it looks so wrong to them.

Was gonna say the same thing. Laimbeer pioneered the stretch 5 position and had a rebounding title. To say he was just a goon is absurd.

@@briancoburn5957 I appreciate this from a BUlls fan. I'm a Pistons fan.

When you can make a true statement about another team says your a fan of the NBA period. Much respect for giving an honest opinion. Bill was a true big man that can hit the 3 but also knew his role on that team.

Like Barkley said, everybody "hated" Laimbeer. But almost everybody wished he was on their team.

Every time I see some claim a player from 30 years ago couldn't play in today's game I ask why? Those guys weren't idiots. They learned to play a game within the existing rules using the skills they were strongest with. So the tactics in the modern game are different. You don't think these guys could adapt? Do you think the modern players would hold up very well defending the Show Time Lakers where Magic had the ball in the hands of his shooter in a second and an half of when he got the rebound? The best of every era could play in every era. Great players are great players. They would just learn to play a very different type of game. I would have liked to see Dramond Greene on the 1989 Pistons. No one would be talking about Lambier if Dramond was allowed to play like they did in the 1980's.

Way ahead of his time with his shooting!

One of the original stretch bigs.

@@AlexG-tp2ik was the original stretch 5

@diggydub5720 sikma would argue that laimbeer was a heck of a player??

Great point.. I'd say Jerry Lucas was the original stretch with his top of the key shot "the Lucas layup"

Arenas is ignorant of the game. Of how it is and was played back then. He knows squat about Defense and winning. Simple as that.

Arenas ain’t sh&$

the old school players talk smack about the new guys, and they're just supposed to take it? no other league's legends trash the current product like the NBA does. Respect is a two-way street, some of the newer guys get tired of hearing the disrespect, especially from guys that weren't that skilled in comparison.

Bill wouldn't be able the guard the centers these days that can shoot

​@@Jukeboxsterthat's well deserved disrespect. They don't respect the game so the legends don't respect them. It's that easy

Whenever you here Arenas talk about the old players and saying they couldn’t play in today’s game he always talks them at the offensive end, he seems to forget that these new players will have to play defense against players who were able to put up the numbers they have despite the physical defense they had to play through, something that these new players no nothing about, Arenas actually said that certain hof players wouldn’t be as effective in today’s game, especially the big men, that’s funny because the one of the best players in the league today is a throwback big man who can play with his back to the basket, that would be the Joker,

@@Jukeboxsterhow can you respect these so called superstars when all they do is complain that they don’t have enough to win, these guys jump from team to team so often that they make more money in the jerseys they wear than they make for their play on the floor, they were actually complaining that they were playing too many games 😂😂😂, at least the old school players played in the games they were supposed to play in, there was no load management, when you went to see the stars play in a game, they played and it didn’t matter how bad the other teams were that they were playing, they actually had to take defense pretty much out of the game to make it easier to score, and today’s all star game is trash, the skills competition is better than the actual game 😂😂😂😂, there was a reason they called basketball a man’s game back then, you had to be a man to take the physicality of the game, today’s game is basically a bunch of talented high schoolers, the majority of their experience is from high school, being that they only spend one year in college and they don’t play hard because the fear of injuries hurting their draft stock, that’s definitely smart on their part but it shows that they don’t want to compete, even when they get into the league and get that big contract, their competitiveness goes down a few knots, then comes the ring chasing 😂😂😂😂, back in the day a player going from team to team as much as these guys, were called journeymen 😂😂😂😂

Thats cause he didnt try a score a layup on him.

@@JD-ey8hw thats cause jordan bet on his jeffrey in vegas. U DERANGED. MJ CANT LAYUP SO HE CRY TO DAVID STERN : ''just remember michael , Stern make all rules softer so u can win few games '' by WILT CHAMBERLAIN

I saw him and George Blaha at the Palace Grill after a U2 concert and we had a beer. He was nice to talk to and George is an angel.

He was like the tough guy in hockey who comes to bully the other teams stars

@@ericbutler739 not the point. he was out there to give physical career ending injury by shattering supterstars back, knee or ankle. This is why he will always be garbage.

When the NBA stood for No Boys Allowed 💪

Yeah, and people like Charles Barkley and Alonzo Mourning beat the hell outta Bill Laimbeer's ass!!!! You have to be careful who you pick a fight with because everyone is not going to take it! 🏀💯

@@zeke3388 more like No Babies Allowed.

Willis Reed, Bob Lanier, Dave Cowen's and Dan Issel. You must have not watched much basketball.

Bob McAdoo

​@@Gnofgthat's right 😃☝️

​@@Gnofgkiki vanderway Jerry Lucas Rick Berry

@@AnthonyRobinson-dc3pq I saw Macadoo score 41 points against the Celtics in Buffalo.Ernie D was on that team along with Gar Heard and Jim Mcmillan who scored the winning basket when Havlicek double teamed Macadoo.

If Rudy Gobert can do it, Laimbeer would be fine.

@@biyrdie LAIMBEER WOULD BE BEST CENTER TODAY

Can't dribble, no post up moves. can't drive no lateral movement. besides that he could play.

@@PIP...33you don’t need that now. Even Jalen Brown can’t dribble. Dude got $340 million and become the highest paid player in the NBA. Laimbeer can shoot, that’s DLL you need and honestly the center is soft as hell right now. Embid blames everyone else but don’t show up when it matters in the playoffs.

More than fine… you ever heard of Rudy gobert

And the fans respect

Couple things.. brother ya named one 😂😂😂

Shaq that you?

​@@KloudKageno gun charges can be two

Gilbert is right bill lambier is not a great defensive player, Bill playing today's game he won't last through out the whole game. Today's one of bill lambier fouls in today's game would be a flagrant foul or can be ejected out of the game.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I’m not even sure if he teammates liked him that much. Laimbeer was the enforcer in the locker room too, he was gonna get in their face if he didn’t think they were playing to win. He’s an grade A A-Hole but he was all about winning so they put up with him. There’s a lot of stories about Bill getting into fist fights at Pistons practices.

That whole pistons team is still like that. They never abandon, talk bad about their teammates or apologize even up to today. Special bond they have.

No, Isiah slapped Laimbeer in the locker room over a minor dispute. That’s why Laimbeer decided to retire. Isiah was on crutches, and retired shortly after himself. Isiah was a terrible captain

@@yo3rdtier128 they have a good relationship today

@@yo3rdtier128 ZEKE DID TO 7 FOOTER. BETTER ASK WHY COWARD 6'6 SLAP 6'1 STEVE KERR ?? U DERANGED ( ZEKE > MJ )

@@MrAitraining Zeke is 5'11 Laimbeer 6'11 . Better ask why coward 6'6 did that to white Kerr 6'1 ? Zeke >>> MJ

Manute Bol was shooting those 3's too. They kept him out on the perimeter because he was so skinny, someone like Laimbeer would have broken him into 20 pieces.

Now that was great analysis, 👍🏻

It ain’t bout be darker its bout bill putting them hands on them literally 😂😂😂

@@LonokeCountyResearch501 I've heard way to many brothas state "Everything's about Race" to ignore it when I see it. Vick wasn't about race to da whites. It was about a privileged millionaire media star who was killing dogs for his amusement. But many of ya made that about race too. OJ, Saint Floyd, The list goes on and on and on and on. I know there plenty of black Americans who are not slaves to their hatred. But it is....Systematic.

so he has all the reason to be proud of himself. Real Problem is his extreme jealousy trying to give career ending injuries to supertars Bird, Jordan, Charles, Chief etc etc. this should've never been tolerated and 1980s NBA did. you can give hard fouls and get your flagrant I or II, fine. But when you are out there to 'destroy" superstars career out of jealousy because they arent Bad Boys and on opposition. He lucky he did get his knees clubbed by a baseball bat in stadium parking lots. Because, he deserved it.

@@mkhan8527they know they didn’t wanna do that to him, he played for Detroit. When you come for one of the city’s own you will face the repercussions, sooner or later. Look what happened to Trick Daddy, Ron Artest, etc.. shit look at what’s currently happening to Gilbert Arenas with the whole city checking him and him wanting NO parts of it. Wore a Tayshaun Prince jersey on his next podcast and called it a truce. No one besides an opposing player was ever gonna lay a finger on Bill.

Disagree with #4. Laimbeer was the master at starting something and then retreating to hide behind his teammates to protect him.

@@projoebiochem PAYTON, KOBE, GARNETT DID SAME. BIRD TOO AD JORDAN. THEY INSTIGATE WITH TALK THEN MOVE AWAY. LAIMBEER DID NOTHING WRONG . NBA WAS GROWN MEN LEAGUE EVEN BEFORE HE OR ANY PISTON WAS DRAFTED OR ENTER NBA. DETROIY NEVER STARTED THAT BECAUSE HARD FOULS WAS ON WILT.

@@PIP...33 Bird fought his own fights. Laimbeer was a cheap-shotting coward.

Laimbeer was the NBA version of Claude Lemieux. If he wasn’t on your team you hated him

He was a Cheap shot artist. That's why he is not in HOF

Draymond

Because he's a bad white boy. You should know blacks are more racist than whites in general.

Which is sad to see unfortunately.

MY FAVE MOMENT OF MJ CAREER WAS WHEN HE BET IN VEGAS ON HIS JEFFREY 1993 AND LOST. 6 RINGS AS AN WAGON MEANS NOTHING AFTER 1993

Draymond isn't in the same class as Laimbeer LOL

Perhaps for you...the Detroit fan that watch him live. For the rest of the world...he is just a professional bellend.

Really should have been a 3peat was it for that terrible foul call in game 6.

He was very good player

Robert Parish sucker punched him. I guess you can cross him off your list too.

@@roland7584 Robert Parish hit him after Lambeer slid his foot under him for the umpteenth time and made him twist his ankle! Funny how that always happened when they played Detroit isn't it?? Get your facts straight bro!

@@michaelj.9886 That's not what happened during that play. It was during a rebound, and Parish hit him when Laimbeer had his back to him. It was a clear sucker punch. Parish could have easily decided to square off with Laimbeer, but that's never been the Celtic way. The league was so rigged back then for the Celtics and Lakers that the refs didn't even call Parish for a foul or a technical. It was as if nothing happened and somehow Laimbeer just ended up on the ground with a bloody mouth. It was the best of times in the NBA, but the rigging was blatant for the entire 80s to save the league from folding after the 70s and turn it in to the mega empire we have today.

@@roland7584 He was doing it the whole game,and he was notorious for it!! I watched the NBA throughout the 80s,and you can't name me one other time or player that Robert Parrish lost his temper with...why?? Because it was out of character for him that's why!! There's a reason why so many players of that Era despise Lambeer to this day,but I'm sure you have a biased explanation for that too don't you?!

@@michaelj.9886 Losing his temper is one thing. Calling me out to get my facts straight when it was still a clear rebound and not a foot while Parish was shooting, and it was a clear sucker punch just shows how biased you are. If Parish would have squared off with Laimbeer instead of sucker punching him, Parish would have ended up in the hospital.

He was more physical than dirty. He agitated, he played mind games, he intimidated...if he could. Mostly he just played great basketball.

100% accurate! Nike paid Stern big bucks to change the rules for Jordan.

what do you call this? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZpOUq7yg2dOcm30.html

💯 Shawn don’t be objective at all lol

The Celtics did the same crap that the Pistons did !1 They were sneaky about it though The Celtics would get you to hit them by doing shit like elbowing you, grabbing you, stepping on your foot!! Ainge was a perfect example

My favorite moment is when Bill ended the Chief’s run and the Celtics didn’t win again.😂

@@adamludlow1977 well said !!

Damn right

I'd rather have Laimbeer on my team than any other player because if he's playing against me, I am getting murdered.

Than you can have scot skiles too. Since you don't plan on scoring too many points to even compete. They are two different positions and skill sets. Some of yall just speak on a character and put No logic on the competition and skill set of "THE GAME"

@flxgld7096 "The game" is baseball!

@@YTBEN1045 nobody calls "America's past time" "The Game" is "the Game"

He should have been MVP for the dirtiest player in the NBA

In that era the league was not interested for a big man shooting from outside. He took the pressure of the pistons by being an enforcer.

Its not just dst he played D they dont today

Damn, true though