BUDGET 9mm Defensive AMMO! Winchester 147 Grain Hollow Point Ballistic Gel Test!

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Tools&Targets

Tools&Targets

2 жыл бұрын

Testing out another low-priced 9mm self-defense ammo choice. The Winchester white box 147 grain 9mm. Is it a good performer at a bargain during the ammo shortage?
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@RL-RL
@RL-RL 2 жыл бұрын
For a heavy 147GRN HP, those performed better than alot of the +P loads I've seen on here. Excellent price for a carry load, and very impressed! Great test!
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, T&T testing of MANY rounds has shown the regular pressures perform as well and typically better in the gel, for some bizarre reason.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thank you sir!
@RL-RL
@RL-RL 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnLloydScharf Yea I know. I watch all of his videos. Some of that +P crap isn't worth it.
@Bender_B._Rodriguez
@Bender_B._Rodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually a +p just a heavier load in front. If you have a comp to want 124g+p/NATO pressure or 147g. Don't use 115 for anything, manufacturers need to just stop making 115
@j.t.cooper2963
@j.t.cooper2963 Жыл бұрын
@@Bender_B._Rodriguez I have no problems with 115 grain and I prefer that weight in short barrel pistols.
@mesauer
@mesauer Жыл бұрын
Using two barrel lengths, and the resulting two velocities, provides very valuable information. A person can easily extrapolate what their 4.5-5” guns will do in the 25-50yards ranges. Great info!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@donskiver
@donskiver 2 жыл бұрын
These are the hollow points that I've stocked up on for shtf. I knew that they were adequate, but I didn't know they would perform as good as they did. Once I finish rotating through the premium stuff, I may just go to these and save myself a ton of money.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that. I'm definitely gonna be picking up more of them when RK stocks back up.👍
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 10 ай бұрын
No primer or cartridge sealant. Store your long term stuff in air tight containers with desiccant?
@jeffwaltonbooks894
@jeffwaltonbooks894 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for another outstanding test! I bought some last year because of the price. Now I KNOW they’ll do the job based on your great work! I won’t hesitate to stock up now!
@joemokrzycki2006
@joemokrzycki2006 2 жыл бұрын
Very consistent I’d say it passes the test
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir.👍
@earlmorrison7833
@earlmorrison7833 2 жыл бұрын
I use the Winchester white box. Sometimes its a little dirty but can't beat the price. Thanks for the video !!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Great round for the price.👍
@1madmaxx80
@1madmaxx80 2 жыл бұрын
I heard it's burns dirty too. Not sure if the guy was just trying to sell me on another round or what as I haven't hit the range yet.
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 2 жыл бұрын
I like my ammo they way I like my women; cheap and a little dirty
@bukboefidun9096
@bukboefidun9096 2 жыл бұрын
I keep 5 of these JHP 147 in my nightstand tool... I do need to do another test fire, I keep forgetting to do that
@livebaitlarry5783
@livebaitlarry5783 Жыл бұрын
@@timrobinson6573 + 1
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews 2 жыл бұрын
I probably have more Winchester white box 9mm, 45, 38 special than anything else. .22lr it’s not good quality, but center fire, it’s my usual choice
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
It did great on this test for sure.
@jamesmikesell5458
@jamesmikesell5458 2 жыл бұрын
I've never used Winchester white box.but when I find some I will buy them.thanks for the test very impressive
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
It's been some good stuff in testing.
@Morroes100
@Morroes100 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you get 50 round boxes very economically. Too many people buy one box of 20 and never shoot them. With these, people can buy some and actually test & train with them. Enjoyed the video, thanks!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.👍
@keithjones668
@keithjones668 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of police agencies carried this 9mm duty load for a lot of years. Out of a full sized service handgun, they'd often expand out to maybe .55 inch in street shootings, depending on clothing barriers. They were better than the .38 Specials we had prior to that, and certainly did their part if you did yours. Thanks for testing.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I was pretty impressed with what I saw.👍
@boostimalaka1
@boostimalaka1 2 жыл бұрын
The Winchester Controlled Expansion 147 grain was issued and wasn’t performing as expected in Officer Involved Shootings. This was back in 1990 when all law enforcement was switching from the 115 grain hollowpoint because the FBI recommended the 147 grain ammunition for service. The 115 grain +P+ was working fine for many law enforcement agencies. The Sub-Sonic ammunition was the hottest thing at the time. It was phased out as the Federal Hydrashok 124 grain +P+ was introduced and had better performance over the 147 grain. With newer ammunition technology, the 147 grain Winchester SXT T-Series, Speer Gold Dot, Remington Golden Saber, Federal HST are now providing good data on how effective the 9mm is with the 147 grain loads available.
@boostimalaka1
@boostimalaka1 Жыл бұрын
@Randy Alvarado I would use what major law enforcement agencies use. I would recommend testing various types of different ammunition in your personal firearm and see which is most accurate. I tend to like the 115 grain +P+ because of years of solid one shot stops.
@imagohouse7412
@imagohouse7412 2 жыл бұрын
Been passing them up for the expensive 2O round boxes, not again. This will be my go to going forward especially for my AR-9 and PCC. Great job again Tools.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I'll definitely be buying more when they're back in stock at my RK.
@MrDelta8871
@MrDelta8871 23 күн бұрын
Big thank you T&T. Very informative video as always. I really like how clear the gel always is. Can't say this about all channels on YT. Wishing I had subscribed sooner now I have a ton of videos to catch up on. LoL
@donswaney3043
@donswaney3043 11 ай бұрын
I inherited a couple of pistols from my dad when he passed. He had these type of JHPs that he carried in his gun. The run fine at the range but I have never seen results of them. Glad to see your video and have a better idea of what they do. I'll probably keep using them since they seem to do the job
@buzsalmon
@buzsalmon 2 жыл бұрын
Have a nice Easter Tools! Thank you for all you do. Good video I like the 147 best.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother. Same to you!😎👊
@LuckyDog350X
@LuckyDog350X 2 жыл бұрын
It's been said a time or two that you can never have enough 9mm, I have such a large assortment of different brands and grains of 9mm, this is one I actually have plenty of and it always worked well for me. All the different tests you do with the different calibers and such is valuable info for the subs that are looking to pick the best ammo for each tool and each situation, saves them time and $$. Thank You my friend, have a good one I will see you on the next one.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that brother.😎👊
@shootinitstraight4162
@shootinitstraight4162 2 жыл бұрын
Brother I gotta say I never miss a video by you. Thanks for all the info you give us, it matters!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that!
@Bob-lq9ys
@Bob-lq9ys 2 жыл бұрын
Great test with great results , if I can find some you can bet I will be getting a few boxes . Thank You
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@590DM
@590DM 2 жыл бұрын
*Every time I find a cheap ammo I wanna check out I look into it and you have a video on it no more than 2 weeks old. EVERY TIME. Thanks man*
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Appreciate you checkin out the vids!
@Isaac_5.56x45
@Isaac_5.56x45 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite 9mm round and what I always carry, thanks so much for the great review and video.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice. Appreciate that!
@MarineBiologist533
@MarineBiologist533 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! I picked some of this up at my RK sometime ago because that is all they had in stock and it was around $23 a box. Good to see my money wasn’t waisted. I was also able to pick up a box of the 115 grain as well. Thank you for all the work you do in making these videos. Very informational.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that! I'm definitely gonna pick up some more when they get it back in stock.👍
@sergiogiron3659
@sergiogiron3659 2 жыл бұрын
These are the first kind of carry ammo I ever used. I still have some on my night stand gun. Great video tools!! Really happy these performed well.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. They did the job well.
@AllThingsLoud_
@AllThingsLoud_ Жыл бұрын
I started out with the 124 gr. That was back when Walmart was selling ammo and you could get a box of 50 for $15-$20
@robbie0884
@robbie0884 Жыл бұрын
JUST STOCKED UP ON A FEW BOXES OF THIS AMMO AND WAS CURIOUS HOW THEY WOULD PERFORM SO THANK YOU SIR! GREAT VIDEO AS USUAL! 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya, my friend!😎👊
@Salieri47
@Salieri47 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the testing. I bought some of the 147 & 115 today, plan to use the 147 in my CX-4 Storm, figure 16" barrel will give it some extra velocity. Paul Harrell consistently got good results with the 115 in his meat targets.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 2 жыл бұрын
I am impressed. Great option. Good velocities. Thank you so much for testing them.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressed myself.👍
@natjonestower3035
@natjonestower3035 2 жыл бұрын
My Lady has had a mag full of these in her P365 for about a year now, always wondered if they'd be any good. Perfectly cleared up, another great test.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I'd say she's ready if need be.👍
@steelpunisher6944
@steelpunisher6944 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!! That was a pleasant surprise! I’ve bought these before and just used them for practice. Not anymore. Lol. Other rounds perform better but like you said, they would get the job done. Another great test my friend. 🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎
@timrobertson299
@timrobertson299 2 жыл бұрын
I stocked up on several boxes of these months ago from the company store, I found out the price for the 50 round box and couldn't pass that up. Glad to see them performing so well being a no frills round, not only will these do the trick for a low cost defensive round but you can afford to practice with them.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir. Definitely not a bad thing to be able to practice with what you carry.
@keithtate1241
@keithtate1241 2 жыл бұрын
Great jelly test. After your test where the Sierra Sports Master was a fail and the Winchester 115 was a success. The tool I was running the Sierra in was replaced with the Winchester 115 grain. I will now be looking for this Winchester 147 grain. It did run admirably. Thanks again for the video and wishing you and yours a happy Easter.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Have a great Easter weekend!
@HeartsOfDarkness
@HeartsOfDarkness 2 жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised with the results. As you stated, they will get the job done. Thanks for another excellent video review.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Well worth the price.👍
@shadowwolf2524
@shadowwolf2524 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this test. I've been thinking about picking up some of these rounds for awhile now. I like the 147gr 9's. But I haven't seen any of the Winchester 147 white box ammo for sale lately, until I stopped buy my local Academy 2 weeks ago. They had probably 100 boxes for sale for $32 a box. I ended up getting some other gun stuff and passed in the 147's. I just went back buy there this morning. They only had 2 boxes left. I grabbed one of them. Should have grabbed both, but I needed some 22 magnums too. And the best part- they gave me a 20% discount for applying for their store credit card. Ended up paying $22 for the box of 50 147gr Winchester hollow points ! All the other 9mm hollow point ammo was $30+ for boxes of 20 ! Your test made me real comfortable buying these to load into my Taurus G2C. I really appreciate all you do ! And you seen to test rounds, and guns I'm interested in. I just picked up a RIA 206-38 snub after watching your test on it. You are one of the top channels I go to. And I watch some of your videos more than once. They are very informative, and just enjoyable !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I really appreciate the support!😎👊
@nofantasyman
@nofantasyman Жыл бұрын
I like your videos. Testing is carefully done, lots of info and fast pace,; i hate the videos that drag out. Good job.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that. Some folks keep telling me to slow down but I'm like you, I want it quick and to the point as much as possible.
@TheCharlesAtoz
@TheCharlesAtoz 2 жыл бұрын
I've shot the other Winchester grain weights before, just not into gelly. No malfunctions. Good test.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@philiptheriault7953
@philiptheriault7953 2 жыл бұрын
Those rounds performed excellent. Great video tools. I've tried Winchester white box 38 special 125gr FMJ and thought they felt underpowered but I have not tried the hollow points. These budget defense videos are awesome
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎
@charlesmorgan1879
@charlesmorgan1879 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work ! If the stars align and I see the 40 S&W version ill get em! You put the Jam in that gelly cake !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya, sir!
@cryswimmer
@cryswimmer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Nice to know that the Winchester white box performs so well.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. They did a great job.👍
@robinhartman7559
@robinhartman7559 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you did the 147, I recently purchased a large bulk of these an was wondering if they had enough speed on them, they work great out of my carbine but I was apprehensive about my 3in side arm, g3c. You answered my question, thanks great video as always.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I was impressed.👍
@J.Wick.
@J.Wick. Жыл бұрын
Nice to see these perform well. Definitely a great use case for SHTF. I personally use these when I can find them, for demonstrating to folks unfamiliar with firearms, the difference in feel or "push" between regular FMJ Target rounds, and JHP Defense rounds. I also use them to test new gun pickups for cycling JHPs. They're cheap enough to use as a Target ammo, in that they're not much more than the FMJs beside them in the near identical box. Cheers.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Definitely worth the price.😎👍
@jamontreyhamilton5210
@jamontreyhamilton5210 2 жыл бұрын
My boy back with another banger nice content still looking forward for gun collection video 💯💯
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya, brother! I can't decide exactly how I wanna split up a collection video. I'm gonna figure it out though.
@michaelhenderson5098
@michaelhenderson5098 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. When the gettin' was hard to get, I picked up a couple of boxes of the 115gr JHP ($24.99). Still have one box. :)
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Those did great also.👍
@ssh5757575757
@ssh5757575757 2 жыл бұрын
You are an awesome salesman LOL!! Just ordered two boxes of them!! I try to watch every ammo test you do! Keep up the good work! Thanks for the videos.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Now if I could actually get a commission check.😂😂
@ssh5757575757
@ssh5757575757 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I think you should!
@johnkennedy4015
@johnkennedy4015 2 жыл бұрын
I use Federal 124 grain HST's as my carry ammo in my Glock 19 and I pay dearly for them these days. After watching the Winchester White Box ammo's performance in the video I would not have any problem using them as a substitute for the HST's. Thanks for the very informative presentation, good match up with the barrel lengths. Take care and stay safe my friend!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I'm definitely gonna be picking up more of these when I can.
@elicline2011
@elicline2011 2 жыл бұрын
The 50 round boxes of law enforcement 124gr hst's are $35 around here when I can find them. That's my carry ammo in my taurus gx4 or g2c
@traumajock
@traumajock Жыл бұрын
ScubaOZ tested these through ballistic gel and denim ten years ago, and they did VERY well. The petals were sticking out at about 90 degrees from the lead, like a ranger or black talon. He got about 16 inches of penetration. Imagine that from Winchester. I was in Academy this morning buying some 124 grain V-Crowns ($22 for a 20 round box) and I saw these 147s for 34.99/box of 50.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Seems like some good stuff especially for the price.
@soberups97
@soberups97 11 ай бұрын
These are what I carry in my G19 and G26. I can afford to plink and target practice with them so I know where they hit and I’m absolutely confident that they will function 100% in my guns. To me, reliability matters more than an extra 1/10th of an inch of expansion.
@murphymmc
@murphymmc 2 жыл бұрын
That's excellent performance at those velocities. Winchester appears to have figured out the low velocity expansion problems that have been so prevalent in the past with most brands.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@Spade_88
@Spade_88 2 жыл бұрын
Great Energy in your videos ! Keep em coming !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!
@herbertblevins7077
@herbertblevins7077 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@michaelharmsjr1402
@michaelharmsjr1402 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, I purchased a box of these and shooting out of a 4.9 inch barrel of a Beretta 92fs, it definitely gave me valuable info on what I can expect
@clintwestwood1895
@clintwestwood1895 5 ай бұрын
Not to shabby buddy! great jelly testin bro ty
@paulfisher4573
@paulfisher4573 2 жыл бұрын
Great video,been a fan of your channel since the beginning
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Really appreciate that!😎👊
@joehelvey5794
@joehelvey5794 2 жыл бұрын
Ya know it’s funny the white box has been the poster child for good American brass for a decent price. And I’ve had good luck with their jhp’s in in 9mm and Remington makes a great budget jhp for about the same price sometimes they are 100rd boxes. I’ve always like the 115 green and white box and the go to wwb. Great stuff again Tools. Finally bought some expensive 357 mag today but couldn’t find it locally for a while too. Got 100rds of ppu jhp, 100rds of PMC jsp, and 75rds of American Gunner xtp’s. $197 delivered. That’s not terrible for that caliber. I need some more .22wmr, less than 2 boxes left. The 22 mags are a little hard to come by right now for me.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! .22wmr seems to hit here in waves.
@wgs6606
@wgs6606 2 жыл бұрын
Chunky Budget Jelly! Sounds like what I get at Aldis. Do you and your cool fuzzy hat know if those bullets are available for reloaders? Impressive. Rock on and keep the fun vids coming!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Not sure if you can buy the bullets to be honest.🤔
@Brykk
@Brykk 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got a couple of boxes of these 147’s. Never really gave them much attention. I got them a few years ago for $12 a box and just bought them as safe fillers because i like heavy for caliber loads. Thanks for the video.
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 2 жыл бұрын
You chose wisely. Fat and slow is the way to go.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a great buy.
@anthonyarena6580
@anthonyarena6580 Жыл бұрын
Great test on this round and quite detailed explanation on the video. 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@Fredthehead2
@Fredthehead2 2 жыл бұрын
Been stock piling these from rural king . Use these on my canik tp9 sa . U don’t want to get stung by these I promise.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not.👍
@jamontreyhamilton5210
@jamontreyhamilton5210 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with cheap hollow points for the price they did good and you get a lot more bullets then the expensive hollow points but only get like 20 rounds nice video 💯💯🔥🔥🙏🏿🙏🏿
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir. Appreciate you!😎👊
@Theright2bheard
@Theright2bheard 9 ай бұрын
Great video as usual. Curious on the 115/147 gr with clothing barrier….might just make it a double deal or a dealbreaker. Also the the two barrel length tests are great for EDC/home defense.
@theparalexview785
@theparalexview785 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, they're good. Used 'em years ago in 9mm and .45 ACP. Grabbed a box when the store had one recently. I replaced the 115 gr JHPs I'd been carrying with these 147 gr. Good to know the claimed velocity was reasonably close to actual performance. I figured it was because I shot Federal Syntech 150 gr and these 147 gr JHP in the same range session and the Winchester white box rounds felt significantly hotter, yet still very controllable, while the Federal Syntech 150 gr is advertised to be a soft shooting, low velocity round for competition and range.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I've been seeing the Syntech in stock a lot lately.
@miles8361
@miles8361 2 жыл бұрын
You just earned another subscriber, nice informative video. Greetings from Italy!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I really appreciate that! Have a great weekend!
@TheRios7018
@TheRios7018 2 жыл бұрын
I been carrying that 147’s for a long time! Nice review like always sir!👍🏼💯🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Seems like some good stuff!
@Juan0481
@Juan0481 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Tools, I've stocked these since I was able to get them at Walmart. Still have a bunch. I prefer the hst but I think it's a great option.
@TheXtro101
@TheXtro101 4 ай бұрын
During the decade of the 1990s,the budget Winchester 147 gr. 9mm HP was the standard issue rd for the LASD(Los Angeles Co.Sheriff Dept) 8,000+ sworn personal at that time(info was from a 1998 G&A special edition magazine of top L.E.agencies in the nation and what they carry).
@KD-lb9bg
@KD-lb9bg 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good to go economical self defense load. Great job on the testing as always, thanks.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks tools, for some reason I didn't get notified for this video. Anyway that was some good performance by less expensive hollow points 👍👍.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya, brother. I don't know what the heck kinda notification system they got going.
@TheZotman5
@TheZotman5 7 ай бұрын
Love to see you do this one again with your "real world" heavy clothing barrier.
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel 2 жыл бұрын
i love the 124 because its the most common round i see and my sights dialed in for it havent tried 147 yet i havent seen them in stock
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 124 guy too, but these definitely did a great job.
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 2 жыл бұрын
The demand for high velocity and ft/lbs is far higher, so they do not sell well. People look at boxes for info rather than testing.
@ronaldperkins4222
@ronaldperkins4222 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive. As a fan of heavier weight 9mm bullets - especially subsonic ones - these sure fit the bill. And they're cheap enough to allow for ample practice time without breaking the bank. Great job.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@tommylitchfield3450
@tommylitchfield3450 2 жыл бұрын
Good tests on a pretty good round! These are the 1st rounds I ever shot out of my little P365. I tested them in gallon milk jugs full of water. The first one I shot expanded to a perfect mushroom, but the second one peeled the jacket off one side of the round, so the bullet looked like it had been put in a pencil sharpener. If I hadn't been the one to shoot it, I'd have thought that the second bullet had hit a glancing blow off a hard barrier. They both stopped in the third jug. The Winchester white box bullets that I have tested have did very good as to expansion, but the jackets on these and the 115s seem to peel off in unpredictable ways compared to the high dollar stuff, but for what they cost, they are very, very good. NO comparison to some rounds like the Sierra Outdoor Masters that cost three times as much and don't expand at ALL out of a 3" tube. I wouldn't feel undergunned at all with these Winchesters. I want to find me some WWB 124s and shoot them and see if they are as good as the 147s and 115s.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they even make these in 124. I can't seem to find em if they do.🤷‍♂️
@tommylitchfield3450
@tommylitchfield3450 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Well if they don't make 124s, that explains perfectly why I haven't found any!! 🤣🤣
@glennrogers9905
@glennrogers9905 Жыл бұрын
I really like the way you are testing the ammo. You keep it simple. Some guys test three or four different kinds of ammo out of three or four different guns and it gets to hard to follow. Yours are simple but thorough. Thanks. I still like to see something on the Buffalo Bore lead semi wadcutter hollow point 158 grain in .38 sp.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. It gets way too long when I try to do more than a couple of rounds also and then people still only watch 5 to 7 minutes of it like usual. I'll put those 38 BB on my next order list.😎👍
@glennrogers9905
@glennrogers9905 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Thanks.
@draelindsey3066
@draelindsey3066 2 жыл бұрын
I usually carry hst 40 but I do use this same exact ammo in my mossberg mc2 they do perform well without any malfunction
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice.😎
@stevenkennedy4130
@stevenkennedy4130 11 ай бұрын
For a full sized service pistol, 147 grain is the way. Thanks for the share!!
@jasonnunya7000
@jasonnunya7000 2 ай бұрын
Another great video. Anyone looking for real life performances of their ammo, Tools knows what time it is.
@tonysmith7874
@tonysmith7874 3 ай бұрын
This is the ammunition that I use as a LEO. Very good ammunition that performs consistently. They serve their purpose. I usually change out for a fresh box every 6 months. These run very well in a Glock 17.
@scottrussell6717
@scottrussell6717 2 жыл бұрын
I bought 500 of the 230 gr 45acp bullets a few weeks ago for 65.. they look good... every one I have seen in gel always expands good.. I wouldn't be afraid to carry them
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
These 9mm definitely did an impressive job.👍
@joemama69448
@joemama69448 Жыл бұрын
Looks like anything with a 4+ inch barrel will shoot 147g with good expansion but I think anything under 4" I'll shoot 115g. Great test!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@travisbell9014
@travisbell9014 2 жыл бұрын
I got a few of the White Box 147 g for my CZ scorpion. I had to pay a little more than $25 a Box But they are cheaper than gold dots or HST. Now I wouldn't say they're "Just As Good" but I will say they'er good enough. I would love to see how they Perform out of a short barrel carbine
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir. they'll do the job for sure.
@EducatedBlackMan
@EducatedBlackMan 2 жыл бұрын
I use Winchester FMJ for target practice when I get it on sale. For everyday carry its Hornady Critical Defense & Gunner in warm weather and Critical Duty and Underwood Xtreme Penetrator in the winter.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Great choices.😎👍
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir, Those rounds were impressive, being heavy for caliber, I didn't expect to see results like this, Have you tested any other lighter weight rounds, 115gr and/or 124gr, I'm a 124gr round guy, Kind of a middle of the road weight, Thank you for posting, I really enjoy your tests, And I glad I joined last night, Keep up the good work my friend. 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Really appreciate that. I have tested these in 115 but unfortunately I don't think they make em in 124. The 115 did pretty good also.👍 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qcmaa7imldPNiJc.html
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets OK, Thank you, I will check out the 115gr 👍
@ShadowForge762
@ShadowForge762 Жыл бұрын
I think between your and Paul Harrell's positive results with these rounds (or just WWB in general), I think this'll be my stack it deep/SHTF rounds. I have Sig 124gr V-Crowns as my usual carry ammo, but these work just fine if the zombie apocalypse happens.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yessir.
@grigorirasputin5020
@grigorirasputin5020 4 ай бұрын
This was indeed, impressive! That said, bear in mind that this was before Tool N Targets was incorporating layers of cloth over the gel blocks. This can make a huge difference in expansion performance.
@tonylawrence1814
@tonylawrence1814 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 I usually try to stay away from Winchester, but you just changed my mind TY 😊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. They definitely did a great job here.
@Carv97
@Carv97 2 жыл бұрын
Great test man… I’m carrying these right now out of my 3 inch Glock 26, so I’m happy to know they will do the job! I’m only carrying these because I cannot find my ranger T series +P+ rounds anywhere that I was carrying , I had been carrying them for 4+ years so I figured I should put some new rounds in my EDC XD
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. These are pretty impressive to cost what they do.
@Tactical.Pastor
@Tactical.Pastor Жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@juanroldan4379
@juanroldan4379 Жыл бұрын
I used to carry this round when I was transporting inmates for a corrections transport company. I never had any issues. Never had to use it on duty thankfully. But it performed well for all my qualifications tests.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Seems plenty good enough to me.😎👍
@jeffray6197
@jeffray6197 2 жыл бұрын
I usually prefer Federal and Winchester, so I was very pleased with the results for sure! Thank you for another great gel test video!!🇺🇸👍🏻
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching, brother!
@jeffray6197
@jeffray6197 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Always my brother!!🇺🇸👍🏻
@jw-sigp2258
@jw-sigp2258 2 жыл бұрын
Deep penetration and damage was pretty good too. Nice video. For me personally I like Winchester white box 115 grain for defense.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely some good stuff for the price.👍
@bruceliggett8036
@bruceliggett8036 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Sir!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, brother!
@allen_p
@allen_p 2 жыл бұрын
I was in Academy today and almost bought some of that Winn 147gr hp. It was $29 box. Good video. I'll see if I can find it cheaper and try it in my M&P shield
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Even at $29 it's a pretty good deal.👍
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing your video and jelly test. I will be purchasing some if I find any. Thanks for the video.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you as always brother. I'm definitely gonna pick more up when they get em back in at my RK.
@adamrenissance3322
@adamrenissance3322 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing a Gel test with the P365,
@rodillsoongobacktoprintedi5605
@rodillsoongobacktoprintedi5605 Жыл бұрын
A great video! I've been using the whitebox for practice and carry for sometime now. Good to know,that economics won't stand in the way of performance.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@fredtheisen2439
@fredtheisen2439 9 ай бұрын
I always avoided getting these 147 grain After seeing your video I changed my mind
@abelgirsh6440
@abelgirsh6440 2 жыл бұрын
Great test. I wouldn't feel a bit under armed with those. I wish we had one of those Rural Kings in my neck of the woods in NC.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they haven't opened up more stores.
@soberups97
@soberups97 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your excellent review! I have a request…could you do a gel test for the Winchester White Box 110-grain .357 Magnums out of a snub nose revolver? Maybe compare it to the same round in .38 Special, or another “budget” round like Remington UMC? Please and thank you!
@red9man2130
@red9man2130 2 жыл бұрын
Over the Years (since the 90,s) Winchester white box NEVER let me down!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Old faithful.👍
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice ammo choice to test Tools! Looks like Winchester is upping their game for the price and performance. 🎩♠🎯🏁🏵💙💛🌻🇺🇸🍀
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Some great stuff at a really good price.
@hansblitz7770
@hansblitz7770 Жыл бұрын
It is one of the most common JHP loads in the USA and Winchester has been making it for 35 years.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
👍
@buttvader
@buttvader 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid with no bs and no wasted time
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@frankmckinley1254
@frankmckinley1254 2 жыл бұрын
I like the 147. Thanks for the videos.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!😎👊
@BulletsB4Guns_2A
@BulletsB4Guns_2A 2 жыл бұрын
For budget ammo you can't go wrong with Winchester white box.. It's a really good choice especially if you stockpiling ammo... I Ike the WWB 124gr in 9mm but would not hesitate to get the 147gr. That goes for FMJ or JHP... I've honestly never had any issues with WWB ammo... Good video Tools!
@davewhaley6917
@davewhaley6917 2 жыл бұрын
If this is all you have available in your local area, it will work
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 2 жыл бұрын
If you are the "practice with the round you shoot" then THIS is the round to do it with. Excellent!
@BulletsB4Guns_2A
@BulletsB4Guns_2A 2 жыл бұрын
@@davewhaley6917 I personally use Federal Hst in 9mm for EDC... WWB is good for stockpiling and for target practice. However! Like you say, If it's all you can get your hands on. It's still a good choice
@BulletsB4Guns_2A
@BulletsB4Guns_2A 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnLloydScharf WWB not my go to load for EDC. I do however have alot of it stockpiled and use it for target practice...
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. This stuff did great!
@frank6029
@frank6029 2 жыл бұрын
Ammo worked really good it surprised me I didnt think the 365 would of did that good on penetration and expansion Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏🙏
@deamcn6548
@deamcn6548 2 жыл бұрын
The speed was pretty impressive as well!
@frank6029
@frank6029 2 жыл бұрын
@@deamcn6548 agreed 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Same here.👍
@cmcarnage9782
@cmcarnage9782 2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Great video! I keep a nice stash of wwb 9mm jhp. I prefer the 115 grain tho. Great backup or stockpiling ammo.. or if you are on a budget or can’t find a more premium option.. wwb will work just fine.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!😎👊
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