Budget Audiophile DAC you CAN'T Own! Schiit Modi Multibit Review and other Options

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@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

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@reserva120 2 жыл бұрын

I like the way you say it, I'm no prude, but it's gets exhausting after a while ,right.

@christophervecchio7945 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. I have the Cambridge Audio DacMagic 100. Have you every reviewed the DacMagic and do you think this outperforms it?

@lexicon612 2 жыл бұрын

Ok...I think your great...having said that, why the H E double toothpicks would you choose to use (as a backdrop) what we can only assume is a surround system set up completely wrong? Center channel a foot above the TV screen? really? I mean at least fake it...lol I recommend lots of therapy, and more coffee. I'd be glad to come by and set it up for you...smh.

@midnightsocean2689 2 жыл бұрын

You can't beat Schiit. The sheer amount of money you are paying most other companies for name tag/excessive profit margins/advertising/bells and whistles, immediately puts Schiit ahead, add to that Schitt's extremely good cutting edge designs and yeah, you really can't beat them. Not without spending literal truckloads of money. I had gone through many dacs before I found Schiit. Once I had a Schiit though, I never changed brand. I simply upgraded the model of Schiit I owned as I could.

@StevoJacobs 2 жыл бұрын

I managed to grab one used, and so glad I did. Unreal how good this sounds, it is everything I have been looking for out of my little audiophile system. Legit makes a lot of my digital music sound like their vinyl counterparts.

@ginom407 2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this comparison! I have both the Multi-Bit and the J2 in different systems. I love them both!!! I lean more towards the Geshelli but that could be because I just got it 2 months ago. You really can't go wrong with either one. Great Bang for your Buck!!!

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

agreed

@chrish4720 2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad I purchased one last year, only took a couple of weeks. Well worth it at that price. Hooked it up to a pair of powered speakers for my desktop and the sound difference was immediate. I then swapped my powered for the inexpensive Sony’s. So glad I found your channel. Only issue i have is with the SMSL AD18…only works w/ optical cable. The other inputs have a lot of noise.

@a3marketing991 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Bifrost dac, Freya + and Vidar (monoblock) amps from Schiit. I also had the Mani phono preamp for a long time and it's awesome. Schiit definitely has high quality products at very competitive pricing.

@ChicagoRob2 2 жыл бұрын

It took 12 weeks to get my Multibit, due to supply chain issues. It was definitely worth the wait. I find it superior to the ESS-based Modi 3 and JDS Labs DAC+. The Multibit is smoother and more analog-like, with great instrumental separation and soundstage depth. There is a sense of “ease” to the sound, which is free from glare and hardness. The bass is also bold and natural-sounding. One thing I found is that it takes some time for it to “settle in.” It should cook for at least 1-2 hrs, before serious listening.

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's great

@Corndog642 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, mine sounded a little weird at first but it’s recommended that you keep it powered on. I checked it the next day and it sounded so much better. This goes for all of the Schiit Multibit dacs. I believe Mike Moffat said to leave them on for best performance.

@tonymosley6951 2 жыл бұрын

1 hr warm up period indeed. As an added bonus, put a paperback book or something on top of the unit. It will give off a holographic or more open sound stage.

@Jon-nz3dm 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonymosley6951 I can't tell if this is a joke or not LOL. I do wish people would look into the psychology of audio experiences and our horrible memory of sound. So many people act like they hear a difference between cheap DAC's when they aren't even A/Bing them with level matched output, they're only stating what they think they remember the other sounding like. Crystals on your amp, expensive cables/interconnects, paperback book on your DAC, all do not change sound.

@tonymosley6951 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jon-nz3dm May seem funny 😂, but the whole point is making the dac run hotter than it is to get the effect. The guts inside rely on a certain temperature to sound it's best thus the 1 hr warm-up period. Just for fun, I run it occasionally. Don't know the longevity of the device, but the effect is there within 15-30 minutes after it runs on an increased temperature load. By the way, I have a schiit gungnir mb that takes 3 DAYS to warm up. Otherwise it is just dull and lifeless on a cold start. Thought something was really wrong with my system till after that 3rd day. Happy Listening 🔊.

@mojoneko8303 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the Ifi Signature DAC on your recommendation from a previous video to pair with the Elekit TU-8600S 300B Tube amp I recently built. I'm also building a pair of the CSS Criton 2TDX Tower speakers for the TU-8600 and for the front left and right speakers in a 5.1 surround system with my Yamaha receiver using an Amp switcher. I am pretty happy with the way the Ifi DAC sounds with my tube amp and Yamaha receiver. I wanted a DAC with Bluetooth capability so that was one of the main reasons I went with the Ifi DAC instead of the Modi. I get the impression from your comments that I could spend 2 or 3 times as much on a DAC on not hear a discernable difference between them. Thanks for the videos!

@jasonc331 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome review! And spot on with what you think, I hate using the term musical but it just sounded more natural strings and vocals were top notch and like you said the top end just sounded less harsh than the Topping and IFi. Glad you liked it ! It sucks that the next version will be delayed. As they were going to add their unison USB to the next version. And I will have that one too. Give it a spin with the USB on some headphones that was it primary use for me.

@skipskipson 2 жыл бұрын

Was looking at this one hard. But I couldn't take the wait time. Just got the modius. What a great DAC. Thunderous but controlled bass. Nice sound staging slightly warm but still resolving in the highs. It sounds analog. My CDs are giving my vinyl a run for their money. But I'm getting the Mani 2 today so....

@1mctous 2 жыл бұрын

I heard the Multibit difference from the first note. It greatly reduced the amount of treble hash and noise so that my brain didn't have to filter it. (The Eitr DDC reduced it even further.) I could relax with digital for the first time ever in December 2016 shortly after Schiit started its production.

@MultiRalvarado 2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Long time ago i saw a good review on iiwi and i decided to try it. I compared vs the Modi 3. IMO the M3 is dynamic an bright on music, good for Rock, rap, disco, R&D, techno, Electronic music. The MMbit , the treble is a “little” less than the M3 but is much better on the resolution and presentation of the music. The bass has more body than the M3, you noticed the difference immediately. The mids are beautiful and matching this on a tube Amp is a plus (i did). IMO good for Jazz, new age , instrumental, Solo Singers, orchestra. Recommend!

@motorradmike 2 жыл бұрын

Randy, the Modi Multibit (MIMBY in Schiithead shorthand vernacular) has been my go to DAC for my speaker and headphone listening. I bought the original v1 MIMBY about four years ago. Liked it at first but it sounded muffled in the lower and upper midrange compared to Schiit’s original Modi and my Project Pre-Box S2 Digital DAC. A while ago, year Schiit announced the v2 (current model) version was available and that the original version could be upgraded with Mike Moffat’s rewritten software filter chip. After installing the easily installed $35 replacement chip sent from Schiit, I was rewarded with much improved sound in the areas where the original was somewhat lacking. Now my v2 upgraded MIMBY is heads and tails superior to my Delta Sigma DACs for all the reasons you mentioned. Thanks for the great review, Randy. Pity Schiit Audio is suffering supply train issues with many of their most popular products. It’s a great company building affordable, well made American HiFi gear.

@ChicagoRob2 2 жыл бұрын

My Mimby has trounced every delta/sigma DAC I’ve owned, which sound flat, dry, and forward, in comparison.

@cesartemio 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Randy as always it all comes down to personal preference. I liked both of them but would rank the J2 bit higher than the MB. Used both on an Asgard 3 and an LX

@NosEL34 2 жыл бұрын

Nice, looks like a real winner. On a side note, Emotiva sent me an Email about there CD player/Dac combo and right below it was your face and review..You gotta have it!! You are famous these days on a few sights Randy..a real rock star. Good for you man 👍

@moclarkoagogo2603 2 жыл бұрын

I got the Modi about 2 years ago for $100. It's now $130. It was like buying new speakers! Smooth, non-harsh sounding. Great clarity and bass. Best budget audiophile gear upgrade ever.

@Barry101er 2 жыл бұрын

Same here!

@shipsahoy1793 Жыл бұрын

I agree as well. That Modi+ truly transformed the WiiM Mini (optical out) and Onkyo CD changer (coaxial out) switchable on the Modi+ into a Denon Receiver CD input and running Polks off the 100W/ch power amp on a Rec Room stereo system! Blew the freaking doors off the 16 bit converted sound coming off the analog out on the Mini, and even a bit better than the internal DAC circuitry on the Onkyo. Not sure why. I’m using a 6’ long, less than $10 coaxial cable.

@odwatchguy 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Randy. Most of us won't be doing a/b comparisons of the dac's, so it is nice to know that buying either the Modi or J2 we will be getting a good experience, With the description of the sound it will make it easier to match one to the other equipment in my system. Thank you

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@Chopstick2U Жыл бұрын

I've been using the Modi Multibit for five years and this video just cured my upgraditis. I only wish it had a remote so I could switch between my TV and my Pi streamer without getting up. Fortunately, my kids love to "press the big silver button" when I give them permission. I put a Darko-style aluminum doorstop on top so it wouldn't slide all over the place.

@stahng 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you. I love Schiit audio products. I got it all but just top models. Transparency and lifelike sound.

@JTB-- 2 жыл бұрын

Schiit products are a great bang for the buck. I like their simplicity too. I currently have the Bifrost 2 DAC, Lokius EQ/Tone control and LYR 3 Hybrid tube amp. Schiit proves you don't need to spend a fortune to get a killer HP audio setup

@timjordan1794 2 жыл бұрын

I've had my Schiit Modi multibit for at least a year now, maybe 2 years now, doing duty for my computer system. It's tied to my Hafler HA75 headphone amp, pushing my Mr. Speakers Ether c flow headphones, and then PSB Alpha1 powered speakers. While it's not as good as my Mytek Liberty, it more than holds it's own, especially for the money. I do use it daily, using the usb input from the pc, to great results.

@AlarusOne 2 жыл бұрын

Great review as always Randy! Love your stuff and insights. Schiit makes such great gear. If you want to be blown away by a DAC try the Schiit Gungnir, it's awesome. But definitely NOT cheap audio. XD

@Nordraw 2 жыл бұрын

I am so glad I have settled on a Dac/Amp and I am sticking to it for a good while. ( Fiio K9 Pro) all of these comparisons are confusing and tiring to say the least. Be gone! But nice review Randy as always fun to listen to.

@langsuan123 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent bit of kit. As far as DACs / Headphone Amps / Pre Amps go, you’re sorted. No need to spend another cent on these for the next decade :P

@davidcoons89 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this particular review Randy!

@m4nc1n1 2 жыл бұрын

Modi 3+ and Magni Heresy were my entry into desk audio. I have moved on since but really did not need to. I really like that Schitt!

@DavidNewellSR 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review, Randy!

@imral3 2 жыл бұрын

I had the regular modi for a couple years and was quite happy with it. Then after upgrading some of my other equipment, including speakers, I decided to get the modi MB. Wow, I was blown away at the increased detail and separation of instruments and soundstage. Deeper, wider and taller soundstage with space around the individual instruments. Just recently added the Saga+ and now things sound absolutely spectacular.

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty impressed with it for sure

@beefquiche Жыл бұрын

What do you do for headphones?

@imral3 Жыл бұрын

@@beefquiche I was using the Schiit Magni 3 to drive various headphones but, mainly HiFiman he-400i planar open backs. Sound was pretty darn good.

@maestro0428 2 жыл бұрын

Love my Schiit dacs and love your videos.

@thornwithin6195 2 жыл бұрын

Love your video Randy! I have my Modi on back order but excited to have it connected to my system! Get to get your insights on the multibit version!

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@Corndog642 2 жыл бұрын

I too like the Modi MB! For me it just sounds more like music. It pairs really well with the Schiit Vali 2 headphone amp.

@budgetking2591 2 жыл бұрын

I assumed this would also be an headphone amp, mehhh...

@redstarwraith 2 жыл бұрын

I am about a 95% analogue guy. Yes, I have some cds and yes, I do listen to some streaming/KZfaq videos when I'm searching around for new music to purchase. When I find something I like, I buy it on vinyl (or maybe cd). I called up Schiit Audio and was told that, "The Modi might be all the day you need." Well, given the ridiculously low price on that piece, I ordered one right away. I liked it so much, I bought a new CD transport so the Modi could do its thang with that. I've really been enjoying the digital side of things as a result. Hell, my amp/preamp is all tube anyway...

@jasonmccoy1380 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! I picked one up December 2021.. came in like 2 days, I lucked out. Amazing DAC!. I run my phone or tablet to the USB. Use USB audio player pro, and you can select Bit Perfect. Play Qobuz Hi-rez through it and hold on to your pants!!

@MrBenherrmann 2 жыл бұрын

Just contacted Schiit (as of 18 March 2022) and inquired about why the Modi Multibit is no longer listed on their website. Received an immediate reply about the total lack of availability of different chips. For example, I was told that Schiit placed an order for a variety of chips back in May 2021 - none of which have arrived as yet. As a result, the Multibit series will be delayed indefinitely. I was also notified that a ballpark guess scenario is that, maybe, the Modi Multibit might be available in another 14 months or so. Bummer...

@galacticbeat6328 2 жыл бұрын

It's terrible anyway. I have no idea why people like that garbage.

@andrewkirch1721 Жыл бұрын

@@galacticbeat6328 put a Schiit Wyrd and/or a Audioquest Jitterbug in front of it. It's not terrible but it is VERY sensitive to poor quality USB signal and noise.

@andrewkirch1721 Жыл бұрын

@@galacticbeat6328 If you don't believe me on the noise, try using SPDIF or TOSLINK

@Inmate999 9 ай бұрын

Best audio channel for regular folks who are into good affordable sound.

@Carl-bd1rf 2 жыл бұрын

I have one these plus a cirrus logic, burr brown, and ESS. It’s definitely a contender.

@ScotDouglas 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a set of Q350's and a WiiM through your affiliate links - thank you for sharing your knowledge!

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@Audfile 2 жыл бұрын

If Schiit comes out with a really bold pair of monoblocks based on their new topology that's in the Lyr3, im in.

@castro619a 2 жыл бұрын

I was think about Mani Modi, but I got the THX AAA and LOVE IT

@avh700 2 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison of the modi DACs. Next time, I would use a tone on CD for comparison of DACs with different output levels by running tone on a burned CD and making sure that it is the same 0 dB on a meter. This way you can truly have the proper sound levels to compare!

@cpk313 Жыл бұрын

I find the NC Juice Pack to be a heady brew with musty underpinnings and tinges of elderberry and Lysol. Best consumed after expiration date for most potent audiophile enhancement.

@frederickfranchi6408 2 жыл бұрын

Randy, when I first heard the multi-bit I wanted to send it back it sounded like crap but I stuck with it and within a week wow it was fantastic as good as my PS audio dac that cost $1,000 obviously sold that one and kept a multi bit a huge achievement for $300 so be patient when you first got it and break it in🤔😀

@DKbananas 2 жыл бұрын

Modi MB will likely be my work computer DAC upgrade. I can only listen at whisper levels, so something that brings the vocals forward would work well.

@cardboardorigami 2 жыл бұрын

I have a pair of Q100s brand new in a sealed box. Yes, I’ve been there before. Bought them back before the Q150 came out

@beezlebub3955 2 жыл бұрын

I do like how you’re intentionally comparing 2 American made DACs, not too many in that realm

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

IMO they are the 2 best dacs in this price category

@beezlebub3955 2 жыл бұрын

@@cheapaudioman I don’t doubt it, I’ll probably pick up a Geshelli in the near future, and wait some months till I can maybe pick up the Schiit used just to try it out. I love the customization possibilities with the Geshelli, and I live in central Florida, so it would be cool to have something good that’s local to me

@moniack 2 жыл бұрын

The Modi 3 is available to order again on Amazon. I ordered one March 13th, and it should be here the 22nd- much faster than estimated. I'm very interested to see the difference between that and my 12 year old lower level Denon 1611 AVR.

@7266355 Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've watched a number of your videos now. I still have a question. What is a good, sub $200 DAC, intended to act as a soundbar replacement, with (1) a decent remote control, that i don't have to point directly at the unit to use it (2) optical input (3) bluetooth input. Thanks in advance

@sloker874 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Randy!! Would any of these 2 DACs make better the sound from the Arylic S50 Pro + by using the 16 bit optical output of the Arylic to the input of them??

@cheechthehat 2 жыл бұрын

Randy, have you ever gone back to the Sim for comparison, now that you have had more experiences ? I spent nearly a year trying different amps for my Klipsch Cornwall IV'S. Started with a vintage Marantz seperates system, model 3300 & 250. I also had a Schiit Saga and Aegir, Rotel RA-1572 MK2, Pro-ject Stereo Box DS2 and a Sansui AU-990. Now, I use a turntable for my main playback, and don't use a fac at all, yet. But I settled on an older Simaudio, the Moon I5LE, the standard I5 can be had for around $1200. The Moon brought life and energy to the Speakers that no other amp was able to touch. Fast , and full bodied. I was considering upgrading to a newer Sim for the DAC.

@CinemaDemocratica Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see a comp between the Modi 3+ and the iFi Zen AirDac. Price-appropriate and both great matches with some of those chip-amps that the channel likes so much.

@gatticusfpv3174 2 жыл бұрын

Actually listening to this on a Modi Multibit lol. Bought the MB along with a Modius to compare the two. Didn't end up sending either back since I don't have another balanced DAC but the multibit is definitely my favorite. Also have a smsl sanskrit 10th which is much closer but I still think the multibit edges out the win. Currently using a Vidar amp with my pervious amp a Crown drivecore 2 in my kitchen system lol. Honestly I can hardly tell the difference between the two even when ABing. Not sure if I've just ended up with two amps that sound very similar but more often than not I hear a lot more of difference in source gear like DACs. Honestly I think the modi MB doesn't deserve the hate it gets for not having as good of performance numbers but almost no multibit DAC measurements compare to delta sigma. But holy crap does the sucker take a long time to warm up and reach peak performance. I was still hearing pretty drastic differences even after running it for 3 days. Hence I never turn it off and considering true R2R DACs have small resistance value changes until a steady operating temperature is achieved I don't think its a good idea to ever turn off a multibit DAC.

@RdandTrk1 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Modius. I know you said you prefer the Modi Multibit to the Modius, but how do those two compare? What are you noticing as the main differences? I previously owned a Modi 3+/Magni Heresy stack and "upgraded" to an Asgard 3/Modius stack. I find the latter to be on the warm side and a little thick. I find myself prefering the more analytical sound of the smaller stack. I'm wondering if changing DACs would help bring back some of the analytical sound? I'm just curious about your thoughts as someone who owns both the Modius and ModiMB.

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

nice

@gatticusfpv3174 2 жыл бұрын

@@RdandTrk1 Yeah no problem. I'm not super knowledgeable/experienced and as always people tend to perceive sound in very subjective ways. To me the Modius sounds much more analytical and almost crystalline compared to the Modi MB. That lends me to suspect the warm thick sound is actually coming from the Asgard. Since the Modius is more neutral you can hear the natural sound of the Asgard a little better. It not a huge difference but the MB seems a bit warmer and the high end details seem a little more smeared and grainy than the Modius. Its not in a bad way. It sounds a bit more tube like. And this seems to be be born out in measurements. The multibit has a lot of 2nd order harmonics going on like tubes. However I wouldn't say the Modius is the most analytical/transparent DAC out there. So if you want to bring back a more analytical sound I'd probably suggest swapping the amp out to something like a THX head amp that has built in distortion compensation. It might be a bit too analytical at that point but that's going to come down to personal preference. The Magni Hersey was designed to compete more directly with THX amps so that'd probably be the place to start. Then if its a bit too sterile swap the DAC out for something a tad less analytical. With my speakers (JBL Studio 530) and amp (Schitt Vidar) the Modi Multibit just seems to render a bit more of a realistic soundstage with sounds in space. I have no problem using EQ and am pretty tone def so I care a lot more about soundstage and imaging than tone. The MB is ever so slightly narrower in soundstage but I find the imaging is also a tad more 3D. As for tone the biggest difference I've heard is that flutes sound a bit more crystalline on the Modius while the MB has some more harmonic distortion going on which I find a bit more pleasant. All of this is pretty slight but I hope it helps.

@gatticusfpv3174 2 жыл бұрын

@@cheapaudioman Did you notice it gets a tad warm? My amp and DAC have matchy matchy temperatures now lol.

@RdandTrk1 2 жыл бұрын

@@gatticusfpv3174 Thanks a ton for the reply! That makes perfect sense to me and sounds like an awesome place to start. I like the Asgard and I suspect I'm probably pairing it with headphones that are also warm, giving me what I've heard Randy call "extra butter", LOL! Thus it would pair very well with analytical headphones which I don't own any of yet. I think I just may go after the THX ONE, and keep both! Thanks a ton for your time and input.

@swenerickson939 2 жыл бұрын

HI Randy, could you please run your stack ranking of DAC's again sometime soon? I have a Schiit Modi 3 that I love but I am looking to upgrade. Unfortunately the multibit will not be available as you mention. Currently using a laptop but thinking of switching to a WIIM into a DAC. Thanks for all the great videos and assisting audiophiles with high value offerings.

@quikspecv4d 2 жыл бұрын

The Geshelli has a variable output level. Hold down the input button for 2-3 seconds to change it from low,medium, hight.

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

when I say variable output level I mean something that can be used for volume control. fine adjustment

@quikspecv4d 2 жыл бұрын

@@cheapaudioman Oh. Gotcha. Makes sense.

@user-bj9ln4em6n 2 жыл бұрын

Jason just announced Wednesday that we can expect a Modi Multibit 2 probably by the end of this year but if I were to guess than we will get it next year.

@roverdad 2 жыл бұрын

Would be interested in a comparison to the Cayin R-R dac. Roughly the same price, similar tech.

@arthurkillen396 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to know this as well

@richardburnett8595 2 жыл бұрын

Hy randy the my x duoo 603 Bluetooth dac and nad 3020 great pear really good thanks for the recomend

@SimpleMailWork Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@JamesSavik 2 жыл бұрын

I tried to buy some Schitt but gave up after waiting eight weeks. I bought an iFi Zen 2 with a built-in headphone amp and enjoy it alot.

@Gadgetdad007 2 жыл бұрын

Your introductions just crack me up 😂

@jedimasternoob 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to watch a review of the new Modi 3E

@stevendavis1135 2 жыл бұрын

Dude I've been saying the samething. It seems like NOBODY wants to cover the modi 3E despite all the great things i been hearing about it. I might just say screw the reviews and pull the trigger

@BumbiPuck 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no, after your video about the zen one signature, i was so ready to pull the trigger, but when you mentioned it in contrast to the multibit, it sounded like it is a BIG difference in soundquality? Should i buy a zen now, or should i wait for the multibit being available again? :) Love your videos!

@jeethenmohanlalramboth31 Жыл бұрын

Hi Mr CA Man. Thanks for the informative vids. Looking to add a DAC, EQ and Pre Amp (1 maybe all) to my Klipsch The Five. Your thoughts?

@DavidNewellSR 2 жыл бұрын

Randy, so if you had to pick between this and the J2, which would it be and why?

@josefernandez2722 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. How does the MB compare with the Modius?

@javace79 2 жыл бұрын

Just received my Modi 3E, will be returning the Topping D10s.

@ChicagoRob2 2 жыл бұрын

Describe the sound. Is it smooth? Is there any hardness or glare?

@javace79 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChicagoRob2 I think it sounds less digital, if that makes sense. Also a little more forward and full. If I would have kept the D10s, I would have rolled the op-anp to opa1656, which maybe would have made it sound closer to the modi. FYI only tried it with USB to PC.

@stevendavis1135 2 жыл бұрын

Can someone please review this dac 😂😂

@wsmcke Жыл бұрын

I have Schiit Lyr, Hiby R6 as my DAC and Argons as the headphones.

@BadMonkeyFinger_Audio 2 жыл бұрын

This is one that I want to try, too. It seems to compare well to the Chord Mojo (Mojo edges it out, i think, but i want to test it in person)

@user-bj9ln4em6n 2 жыл бұрын

One big difference to note between multibit (r2r) dacs and other dacs is that the r2r is a completely custom design made and tuned by Mike Moffet of Schiit whereas an AKM, ESS, Burr-Brown based dac is just a plug and play type design where the DAC maker just builds the architecture around the predesigned chip of choice.

@DamionG1987 Жыл бұрын

I got one! I'd actually like to sell it. I like the Modi 3 just fine.

@beefnoodles95 2 жыл бұрын

so the gesheili j2 is decent alternative seeing as multibit is out of commission for a good while?

@agentbrown321 Жыл бұрын

@cheapaudioman I have the original modi multibit before the usb unison upgrade. I just upgraded to the jnog2 akm version based on your review that you like it more than the ares II. Would you say that's true for the soundstage too? I'm just confused because you said in the newer reviews that the non akm version j2 is just less bass but has the same soundstage from what I can recollect

@twisterbret 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you get to test the new Modi E. I just received mine and I love it!

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

I hope so too!

@StevoJacobs 2 жыл бұрын

@@cheapaudioman I totally want an a/b review with the two.

@epi2045 2 жыл бұрын

It’s fine with me that it takes 4-8 months considering it takes me 4-8 years to pull the trigger. 😵‍💫😂

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

that made me chuckle

@jackkennedy9475 Жыл бұрын

Funny you sound like me!

@cbremer83 4 ай бұрын

Same. Been kicking around getting a Schiit stack for a few years. Finally ordered a modi and magni+. Wishing I got a Loki Mini too. But, that will have to wait a bit.

@audiofile1178 2 жыл бұрын

So between this and RU6 as a DAC, which do you think is better?

@stephanefalardeau9506 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I listen to you video It is useful. Those that chiit gat Bluetooth??

@lukerauch3217 2 жыл бұрын

So, I have a Bluesound node 2i feeding an NAD C165BEE preamp and C275BEE power amp (both bought used). Speakers are PSB X2T towers. I'm not 100% satisfied with detail of the sound at times. I feel like the speakers are plenty resolving, but with modern rock (which I listen to most), the mids can get very 'jumbled' or 'busy' sounding. I read the original DACs in the 2i's aren't perfect. All my music is ripped from CDs at full quality. Do you think a multibit would be a major improvement over the node's DAC? Would it help with vocal and instrument separation? Just curious.

@cwwang10 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Node 2 (N130, newer than 2i) and J2 as an external DAC. To my ears the improvement of all stream music is notable so I assume Modi 3 or Multbit will do even more on Node 2i. (I don't listen to rock often though.)

@roadcykler62 2 жыл бұрын

If one or more of your viewers are offended by the name of an audio company who named their company with tongue firmly in cheek, they should probably not have a TV, radio, or any social media connections. Other than that, your channel is quite enjoyable.

@Cujobob 2 жыл бұрын

They literally just discontinued this yesterday. There will be a Modi Multibit 2 at some point, but apparently suppliers can’t get them certain parts. See the Head-Fi thread about Schiit for more details, its the latest entry.

@DavidRFIT 2 жыл бұрын

Something better than the Toppind D3X Pro + in a similar price range? Espacially for headphone out. Thanks!

@jari121 2 жыл бұрын

No. I think that the DX3 pro+ have better dac than the E30. DX3 pro+ headphone amp is powerful and clean sounding.

@ungarlinski7965 4 ай бұрын

So can this be used to play the music files on my laptop through my vintage receiver where my speakers are hooked up to? And it will improve the tinny and thin laptop mp3 sound?

@mcjonner 2 жыл бұрын

Do you guys think a modi 3+ would improve the sound on a nad t758v3 with Dirac a $1300 avr?

@pavlo687 Жыл бұрын

I wish you would evaluate the HiFiBerry DAC. I use it in a Raspberry Pi computer with output to my preamp. Music is lossless on a portable 2.5" hard drive input into the Pi. Music selected on table with Volumio. But, anyway, I think the HiFiBerry DAC is really good and would like your opinion (along with others).

@MyNorthAmetican40 2 жыл бұрын

As a newbie to the. World of DAC I would love a how to video on how to actually plug h the ear into my DENON AVR

@MadMoxxiFavGun 2 жыл бұрын

hey randy, have you ever listened to the soncoz sgd1 dac?

@ZacharyPrice 2 жыл бұрын

Do you recommend 1 connection over the other when wanting to get the best sound form the Modi MB & Hi-Res audio (coax vs optical vs usb)?

@fifa3 2 жыл бұрын

Coax

@mvsrpharma 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@getstew 3 ай бұрын

Hi. Can I get opinions please? What's going to give me better sound: the DAC that's in my Emotiva PT1 or a Schitt Modi Multi-bit going into that same PT1's RCA in? My source is a Mac Mini M1 using USB out. Thanks!

@bertjedekat 2 жыл бұрын

Whats more important for sound quality power amp or dac?

@tannji5971 2 жыл бұрын

How would the Modi multi bit compare to the Asgard with multibit add-in dac?

@hawaiian-cerveza Жыл бұрын

modi multibit 2 is available now.

@kamadeva1 2 жыл бұрын

Randy, what do you *really* think of the Simaudio amplifier?

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

lol

@williammaness4941 2 жыл бұрын

Randy , evening ..could you do a review of the new Modi 3E....thanks

@ChicagoRob2 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I’m waiting for that, too. I had the Modi 3+, but it had some glare which I didn’t like. Hoping the Sabre- based 3E is more neutral.

@rog86 2 жыл бұрын

How does ot compare to tje dac in the new Node? Cheers!

@fifa3 2 жыл бұрын

I'm dying for an honest comparison between the Modi Multibit and the higher end Schiit DACs, namely : Bifrost 2 and Gungnir MB.

@andrewkirch1721 Жыл бұрын

I own the multibit and the Bifrost 2/64. The noise floor on the Bifrost 2 is much lower. The Bifrost 2 is less true but better, not sure how that makes sense, but I think you'll hear it. As far as Schiit DACs go, the stock Unison DAC in my Asguard is inferior to the Modi Multibit (after I stuck a jitterbug and a Wyrd in front of it, the Multibit doesn't tolerate noise well), the Bifrost is better than both. I'm not sure if it's $600 better, but I'm also not unhappy with the upgrade.

@JR-ho5qm 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Emotiva will ever come out with a good stand alone DAC. I have a bit of OCD and am hoping they come out with one soon so I can jump on the DAC game. 🔈👍🏻 matching components

@willmac5642 2 жыл бұрын

Emotiva shd do a streamer.

@castro619a 2 жыл бұрын

Would you review the Fulla Dac vs this and the Fulla review

@nathanguilford2387 2 жыл бұрын

I need some advice. I run a multizone setup at the office with input from spotify on my computer- old laptop, coming out of the headphone jack, 1/8" to rca splitter. I know that it can be wayyy better. Need preamp. Need DAC. perhaps in one box? My budget is about $300. What do y'all suggest?

@zenithcric1171 2 жыл бұрын

SMSL Sanskrit 10 version or “Mark 2.” I use mine in the bedroom system with a chromecast audio (when my other cheap streamer is wonky) into an eBay ICE power 125 power amp that only has an on/off button (So nothing much to go wrong with it). It needs volume control and the S10 has a remote control to access everything from the bed; on/off, volume, inputs, digital filters (6 if I remember correctly) on the AK4493 (same chip as Modius, which is set for sound. Not a huge downside though IMHO), etc. It sounds good. Downsides are the micro USB power or Input but I typically use optical from the streamer and coaxial from the TV. The S10, sound and feature-wise is bang for the buck. I have the Modi Multibit in my main system, contemplating a sale, not because I don’t like it … longer tangent. Hope this helps. With AKM out of commission these will eventually run out.

@donpettit7107 2 жыл бұрын

So you are saying that the Nicholas Cage Juice Packs are UNREAL!!! A ringing endorsement…but in a clear, balanced and non-fatiguing way.

@cheapaudioman 2 жыл бұрын

@user-kh8di4ep9t 4 ай бұрын

Hi Randy thanks for the great review. I'm a little confused because I saw your review on the ares 2 dac and heard other reviews how good they are And you even recommend if buying a $330 to $500 dac maybe save up and get the ares 2 instead. So I reallly checked them out but they have gone up in price considerably to almost $1500 with custom and taxes. So I think I will stick with the modi multibit and Vali +2 hybrid tube ear phone amp.which should give me a little warmer sound. I will then save for the Ares 2 maybe 2 years down the road and purchase that. Or maybe Schiit by then will have something to replace the Ares 2 but a little less expensive and made in US. I appreciate all the advice. Do you have anything available like buying you a cup of coffee or donation through patrion. To show my appreciation. Thanks again Bo Davis

@user-kh8di4ep9t 4 ай бұрын

I'm sorry Randy I was wrong I. Think you can get the Ares 2 not the 12th annver. For around $1100 in Thailand where I live.

@ADREISTER 2 жыл бұрын

Need a nice desk top DAC/preamp. I don't want to ruin the DAC with a bad preamp. Is the Saga good to go if i can only spend $300? The T8 isn't for me, don't need headphone out, just a good remote. So difficult to decide.

@zenithcric1171 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure why you would need all those RCA inputs (5 if I’m remembering rightly) that a Saga features, on a desktop. That said I’m currently using two SYS units in my main 2 channel system, since I had a Saga + but gave it to my son. So don’t listen to me 🤪 What I found was that I could barely tell the difference between tube or solid state options; perhaps slight edge to the tube. But not enough, since I put an FX Audio tube buffer between the Saga and my Hypex NC 250 amp (to Q-Acoustic 3050i speakers, near field). Sat the FX on top the Saga, then needed RCA to XLR cables to connect to the amp (XLR inputs only). That did it! Then I must’ve thought “this is madness” and replaced it with an SMSL HO200. It functions nicely as my preamp to the Hypex, has both RCA and XLR inputs and outputs (one each), and a killer HP amp. Check it out. Perfect for a desktop. I mostly use it as a 2 channel preamp, though it lacks remote. And it lacks DAC so scratch that (unless you add a Modi MB, but I guess you can’t for now). Like I said, don’t listen to me 🤪. Now I kind of want my Saga back to play with; I don’t think son is using it yet. Anybody ever daisy chain preamps? Or am I going to blow up or set fire to my place if I try? Saga output to the RCA input oh the SMSL HO200 before XLR to my amp. Too Rube Goldberg?

@johnmorgan6724 Жыл бұрын

Fruit juice! I love fruit juice! Z Reviews ~ complains that you can’t hear any difference in the Bifrost multi-bit . . . I think there have been similar complaints. But it’s putting up better number? So it’s doing something in its electronics?