Budget Mic (+ Preamp) vs. Classic Tube Mic - BIG DIFFERENCE?

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Edward Smith

Edward Smith

2 жыл бұрын

This video is focused on a comparison in sound quality between a budget Warm Audio WA-47Jr microphone with an external Warm Audio pre-amp vs. a pro WA 47 tube microphone.
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@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic Жыл бұрын
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@caspermaster-com
@caspermaster-com 2 жыл бұрын
Your general video production with music selection is so damn satisfying. I love your cozy close ups, the lights etc. Such an childlike excitement it brings forward to me!
@aether962
@aether962 2 жыл бұрын
I can hear a slight harshness that the budget mic picked up that the higher end mic didn’t but the budget mic still sounds so much “larger than life” with the external preamp. You’re production quality is getting so much better, love to see the improvement!
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@NextgenPL
@NextgenPL 2 жыл бұрын
Its very strange...When You compared this two mics wothout pream they sounded pretty comparable, now with pream 47jr sounds much worse than 47 😅 ...
@AlexButler10
@AlexButler10 9 ай бұрын
Do they both use the same capsule? Would make sense 🤷‍♂️
@Andre_Ang
@Andre_Ang 2 жыл бұрын
With the pre amp is definitely more warmer but tbh majority can barely tell the difference when mixed🤣 I love the content like usual! Keep making it!!
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@dimocka79
@dimocka79 Жыл бұрын
I found my way to build the vocal chain,that makes every mic soud great: i plug my mic to Studiomaster mixing board ( with 4 band eq ) + FMR Audio Very Nice Compressor + 3 band Exciter,and then signal goes to my audio interface. This signal chain gives not only great results,but even if i want to change one of 3 hardwares in the future,- it is much easier + different gear - different character of the sound. Great video,as always! Thank you!
@caspermaster-com
@caspermaster-com 2 жыл бұрын
Preamp added effortless overtones, and flattened out the response in a good way. Before It missed highs and was a bit muddy in the lowmids, after it sounded balanced and even a touch controlled, very nice. Really wanna hear the tubemic with the pre now!
@robertsimpson5801
@robertsimpson5801 2 жыл бұрын
I had to choose between the two, I would go with the 47 Junior and the preamp. I felt like the low mid bump the preamp was giving the mic worked better for the style of song that you were going for.
@rypdx
@rypdx 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful microphone I have the 47jr . Thick vocals are great. Personally I still use my Sterling ST69 . 10 years old and still tops my WA mic. Really both of those are great and work wonderful. Plus the st69 is cheaper with higher top end quality .
@thomaswhudson
@thomaswhudson Жыл бұрын
Dude killer vocals. Very unique on top of a great mic comparison view.
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Thomas!!
@ZilaMike
@ZilaMike 2 жыл бұрын
You would need a tube preamp to match those characteristics, also they have a different frequency response .
@se7en388
@se7en388 Жыл бұрын
Does it make sense to use wa73 preamp, tube compressor, tube eq with a tube microphone? Or should a solid state/Fet microphone be preferred?
@ayumu666winter
@ayumu666winter 2 жыл бұрын
nice!!! i like the sound through the preamp.
@aether962
@aether962 2 жыл бұрын
Would you consider comparing the WA73 (especially if you turned on the EQ circuit without using the EQ) to warm audio’s TB12 (Tonebeast) to compare tambres and give your opinion? That would be so incredibly helpful!
@chrisk.6246
@chrisk.6246 2 жыл бұрын
I really wanted the 47jr + 1073 clone combo to win, but you’re right-the WA47 definitely sounds better
@maniacblvck5639
@maniacblvck5639 Жыл бұрын
I like this type of videos..its interesting that the preamp make a lot of difference to the mic..and if you use better mic with pre will make more difference
@eduugr
@eduugr Жыл бұрын
Hi Edward! What is your opinion about cheap tuve pre amps like those you can get for 50/100 usd? I'm looking for something that will just warm up a bit the sound of my Minilogue. thanks!!
@vannmensa
@vannmensa 2 жыл бұрын
Powerful microphones Great review Dope content as usual
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@stanleyassor3172
@stanleyassor3172 2 жыл бұрын
eDWARD, WOW, NICE TO SEE YOUR GEAR COLLECTION IS BUILDING UP
@BUCKSHOTSTV
@BUCKSHOTSTV 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the pro mic sounded better over all. Not a huge difference, but I felt there was much more air in the sound that I thought sounded incredible. I think I might want to get that mic in the future to use with my Avalon.
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@GenosGlory
@GenosGlory 2 жыл бұрын
Multiply that difference on a pro studio. A cheap mic is hard to work with most of the time.
@nikoofficialmusic343
@nikoofficialmusic343 2 жыл бұрын
Dude your voice is amazing!!! Would love to do a song with you!🔥
@Bluebirdhouse
@Bluebirdhouse 2 жыл бұрын
Great songs and love your voice. No music credit? I assume these are originals.
@jessicawilson9776
@jessicawilson9776 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all you do 💜
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
@OneFlow.Cacique
@OneFlow.Cacique 2 жыл бұрын
great video bro, for you, wich is the best mic for rap male vocals? specifically baritone vocal?
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I dig the sound of the WA-47 🙌🏻
@OneFlow.Cacique
@OneFlow.Cacique 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardSmithMusic thanks bro
@hammerscheich
@hammerscheich Жыл бұрын
1.the 47 jr without wa73 preamp sounds better than with 2. the tube 47 sound better than 47 jr with the wa73 preamp 3. what would be better? pure 47 jr or pure tube 47? I don't like 1073 type preamps. Tried lots of different ones.... Just don't like them... and: would't it make more sense to plug the 47jr into a tube preamp an then compare it to the 47 tube mic?
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 2 ай бұрын
If the difference is only in the frequency response, then you could match the two exactly using an EQ. Do the WA47 and the WA47-jr use the same capsule? I have the Junior, and use it through a tube preamp. I have no idea how this compares with the tube mic, and I don't really care: I get a very warm, very usable sound that suits my voice well enough.
@LukeSkyzz
@LukeSkyzz 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video with a bunch of different mics with and without pre-amps, I have a TLM 102 and would really like to hear how it sounds with a pre-amp
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea! I'll see what I can do!
@gael9267
@gael9267 2 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@spirokane1003
@spirokane1003 2 жыл бұрын
Mate. ALL microphones need preamps. What the guy in the video is not being clear about is he is not using the term EXTERNAL preamp vs BUILT IN preamp.
@LukeSkyzz
@LukeSkyzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@spirokane1003 that’s obviously what I mean
@heartland3887
@heartland3887 2 жыл бұрын
do' test' with external preamp about how strong change the sound gain vs mic alone plzzz!
@thedome765
@thedome765 2 жыл бұрын
What interface are you using btw?
@Ram.Saketh
@Ram.Saketh 2 жыл бұрын
I really admire the quality of your video production, apart from the content itself.
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate you saying that 🙏🏻
@glennfarrington5338
@glennfarrington5338 2 жыл бұрын
Yet still, the 'Budget' mic sounds better than quite a bit of other mics that cost quite a bit more. I appreciate this comparison, but I kind of feel my WA-47jr is conotated as being sub-par.
@A1DULLU
@A1DULLU 2 жыл бұрын
Love the desk upgrade
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Video coming soon!!
@jasonyellen4868
@jasonyellen4868 2 жыл бұрын
These are both budget mics. The Wa-47 is a tube mic, it's a clone/budget version of the U47 Tube. The Wa-47jr does not have a tube and is going for a different sound altogether, it is supposed to be more similar to U47 Fet, although the 47jr isn't really a Fet mic either.
@polarbear3427
@polarbear3427 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know in which filthy rich family or country you were born, but $300 for a mic is not "budget". Period.
@jasonyellen4868
@jasonyellen4868 2 жыл бұрын
@@polarbear3427 I think you are missing the point. An original U-47 mic that Warm Audio no is basing their Wa-47 off of costs about $10,000. The Wa-47jr is more similar to the U47 Fet which costs about $6000. So in comparison to what these mics are clones of, yes, these are budget mics. They are also different designs that shouldn't be directly compared as they are after different sounds.
@jayzpuall9819
@jayzpuall9819 2 жыл бұрын
Let‘s be honest that preamp made a huge difference and I think it fits his voice better The preamp in the audio interface is nowhere near the caliber of A hardware preamp
@guycohen14
@guycohen14 Жыл бұрын
Why not connect the pro mic to the preamp??
@youngraves7857
@youngraves7857 2 жыл бұрын
tight song 4:30 loved it!
@Axel-xl2vh
@Axel-xl2vh 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a studio tour
@jaymusik1235
@jaymusik1235 2 жыл бұрын
Yep edward i love this, sweet water please send him more gears please let him do a review on them please sweet water
@kehindea
@kehindea Жыл бұрын
Good video but I think it's important that you sing the same words when doing a comparison as the differences in the melodies affect the sound. Not a huge difference between them to be fair and they all sound pretty good.
@blakewilson8470
@blakewilson8470 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear the full song!
@JaeBTundra1
@JaeBTundra1 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video with pro warm mic with the external preamp.
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully coming soon!
@anthemmakersmusic
@anthemmakersmusic 2 жыл бұрын
You can eq in the bottom end on that 47 Jr. That's a workhorse microphone.
@evolabmusic-1
@evolabmusic-1 Жыл бұрын
I have a wa 47jr but is so noisy i cant use it to record anything. Idk if it just a bad copy but it sucks that it is so noisy
@fusespeak1680
@fusespeak1680 2 жыл бұрын
So that sound I’m hearing when you are using the sb7
@dragonemortale9056
@dragonemortale9056 3 ай бұрын
Maybe I don't like the 73 flavour, infact I'm using a tone beast, but the raw wa 47 Jr sounded best to me
@GraffHabit
@GraffHabit Жыл бұрын
But you compared two budget mics?
@user-zb1so4ok7x
@user-zb1so4ok7x 2 жыл бұрын
i was shocked when i used wa 47 jr with neve pre... Amazing sounding mic... I love it more than Neumann tlm 103..
@kennethgithinji5631
@kennethgithinji5631 Жыл бұрын
Quite a strong thing to say. I currently have the Sennheiser Mk4. Should I just buy a pre-amp instead of a new mic all together?
@Lpthemixmaster
@Lpthemixmaster 7 ай бұрын
@@kennethgithinji5631I see that this comment is over a year old. I’ve been debating on buying a preamp, did you end up buying a preamp? And if so was it worth it.
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway 2 жыл бұрын
All warm audio is good but is all budget (regardless of price) bc it’s all cheaply made stuff. The preamps tho are quite great.
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 2 ай бұрын
I was listening to "Crucify" by Tori Amos yesterday. The vocals are very dark, probably quite muddy by modern standards. It's still a fantastic recording of a fantastic arrangement of a fantastic song.
@leightonchen9381
@leightonchen9381 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saving my money and time.
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!! 🙏🏻
@JulianFernandez
@JulianFernandez 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@calvinwilliams4181
@calvinwilliams4181 2 жыл бұрын
What settings did you use on the preamp?
@TrapBoiFuse561
@TrapBoiFuse561 2 жыл бұрын
Go by ear 👂
@thependuvines7346
@thependuvines7346 10 ай бұрын
Bro rode nt2 v/s wa 47 jr..😢😢😢can you make a comparison video😊
@thependuvines7346
@thependuvines7346 10 ай бұрын
@edwardsmithmusic
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 10 ай бұрын
I’ll see what I can do 🫡
@thependuvines7346
@thependuvines7346 9 ай бұрын
@@EdwardSmithMusic 🙏🙏
@Timety_music
@Timety_music 2 жыл бұрын
You have such an amazing voice! Do you have a music/singing channel I can check out?
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I unfortunately do not. I’m planning to start one in 2023 👌🏻
@Timety_music
@Timety_music 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardSmithMusic Can’t wait! Keep doing what you do best!
@crystal.argentina
@crystal.argentina Жыл бұрын
the pro mic sound cleaner, a little bit, but with the preamp you can use a lot of mics, different advantages :D
@zettepix2009
@zettepix2009 Жыл бұрын
Awesome singing
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! 🙏🏻
@lml1501
@lml1501 Жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I like the sound with out the Preamp?
@EmmoKhan
@EmmoKhan Жыл бұрын
And what if we add the preamp to the pro mic ? :D
@ItzrealMusic
@ItzrealMusic Жыл бұрын
My question is can you add an external preamp to a tube mic?
@EmmoKhan
@EmmoKhan Жыл бұрын
@@ItzrealMusic sure. Why not ?
@BennyParcher
@BennyParcher 2 жыл бұрын
Bro how do you afford so much equipment? Do you do it on a loan In payments? 🤔
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I get sent equipment
@BennyParcher
@BennyParcher 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardSmithMusic oh that's awesome bro. Thanks for the response I appreciate you
@killersimpsofamericatv9411
@killersimpsofamericatv9411 Жыл бұрын
tube mic for the easy win on singing. the vocal on the tube mic LEVITATES....it glides. it floats in the mix. the other one isnt bad but i would have saved alot of time had i just a tube mic 16 yrs ago lol
@TheSlim1
@TheSlim1 2 жыл бұрын
So if i have tube mic i don't need a preamp mic right ??
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
A preamp makes all microphones sound better 👌🏻
@yahsyout5450
@yahsyout5450 8 ай бұрын
preamp definitely made the budget mic smoother and more warm but I think I like the sound better without it surprisingly
@yahsyout5450
@yahsyout5450 8 ай бұрын
also you're super talented bro!
@grumpyoldmanracing
@grumpyoldmanracing 2 ай бұрын
It's how you drive the preamp. anyway love the song
@jasoncabral8732
@jasoncabral8732 Жыл бұрын
The lyrics were nice.
@dmajorx
@dmajorx 3 ай бұрын
The pro mic still wins especially with the preamp
@stayhappygaming
@stayhappygaming Жыл бұрын
My thought: Wa47jr+preamp: in your face sound, fast attack Wa47: more depth, more intimate You should test for speech
@AnwaarAliOfficial
@AnwaarAliOfficial 7 ай бұрын
This is not a fair comparison. You should sing the same lyrics for all the different mics, etc, instead of jumping to different mics in between singing.
@shakirsartaz1851
@shakirsartaz1851 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan sir☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
@EdwardSmithMusic
@EdwardSmithMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@rossimarti
@rossimarti Жыл бұрын
More presence going pro. Budget sounds airy (not in a good way).
@MastaGOfficial
@MastaGOfficial 7 ай бұрын
Mic+amp are warmer. Sounds a bit fatter.
@hafimula
@hafimula 2 жыл бұрын
Do you purposely doin sing in cursive?
@Playmanmusic
@Playmanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think ANYONE could tell the difference on a blind test.
@thedome765
@thedome765 2 жыл бұрын
Me like the more expensuve
@FernandoLopez-xe3mq
@FernandoLopez-xe3mq Ай бұрын
47 tube ❤
@abram2535
@abram2535 2 жыл бұрын
Pre AMP better.
@anthemmakersmusic
@anthemmakersmusic 2 жыл бұрын
The preamps on interfaces today do exactly what the bill themselves to do. Clean, clear and loud. The preamps from yesterday or the clones from yesterday still won't sound like yesteryear because so many other factors have change. It's more than a preamp, it's the some total of analog imperfections that we all have heard and love. It's that human sound.
@omnipotent1992
@omnipotent1992 Жыл бұрын
Standalone mic sounds best
@i_c_e_555
@i_c_e_555 2 жыл бұрын
The budget mic sounds better without the pre-amp because it doesn't sound so warm
@i_c_e_555
@i_c_e_555 2 жыл бұрын
I like the airy sound it naturally has
@BukanIbuMu
@BukanIbuMu Жыл бұрын
people love warm sound because it is a popular term
@petermollo1908
@petermollo1908 6 ай бұрын
Is this guy South African? SM7B beats both of those set ups
@DSuade
@DSuade Жыл бұрын
Imagine spending 2 thousand dollars to barely hear a notable difference
@rickyanthony
@rickyanthony Жыл бұрын
Why the hell aren't you using a pop filter on your voice over man. Instant click away
@dkokalanov
@dkokalanov 5 ай бұрын
You are comparing "red apples" to "green apples". None of those is really a "classic" microphone.
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