Budget Powered Respirators from eBay - As Good as a VersaFlo™?

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We've all seen those dodgy, budget powered respirators from China on eBay, but how good are they really, and how do they stack up to the 3M VersaFlo™?
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@SamTownsBladesmith 3 жыл бұрын

A well thought out and thorough review. Thankyou Alex, definitely considering one for myself

@bentoombs 3 жыл бұрын

Great review Alex. Thank you sir👍

@SoggyBottomForgeJoe 3 жыл бұрын

Great review Alex! I'm definitely considering getting one soon. Thanks for sharing! 👍⚒🔥

@jackdawg4579 3 жыл бұрын

First mod I would be doing would be adding a mount for AS standard filters, so you can swap out hepa or chemical units depending on what you are doing.

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

That's a good one! Makes the whole setup more versatile!

@brysonalden5414 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this thoughtful and thorough review. You've prompted me to contemplate this as an alternative to building a shop vacuum system into my new shop.

@daltonlopez4623 4 ай бұрын

Id like to see a 3d printed adapter to allow you to use the versaflow helmet with cheaper filters or a papr like this one

@ValhallaIronworks 4 ай бұрын

That's an interesting idea!

@wayneheitz8390 3 жыл бұрын

A great review sir. From having to wear respirators of so many kinds over the years I have found if you loop the hose over your shoulder it helps with the hose being in the way of ones work.

@bentoombs 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing🤘

@josephdawkins725 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@dadegroot 3 жыл бұрын

I looked at those, after once again agonizing over a Versa flow that I can't actually afford, and ended up going for a Trend Airshield Pro and so far have been pretty happy with it.

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

They seem really good, actually. I consider them the halfway point between this and a VersaFlo

@dadegroot 3 жыл бұрын

@@ValhallaIronworks Yep, that's the conclusion I came to as well. The downside is they are a little heavier, since the motor, battery and filters are all in the helmet, but on the upside there are no pipes.

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

@@dadegroot but how's the balance? I find that heavy can be mitigated with good balance!

@dadegroot 3 жыл бұрын

@@ValhallaIronworks Seems pretty good. I can bend over fine work and it doesn't feel like it's going to fall off. Flipping the visor up doesn't feel like it's going to topple off the back of my head either.

@Ostsol 11 ай бұрын

I've been semi-seriously considering buying one of these so I can go biking outside during wildfire season. I don't need a face shield, but I've got a normal respirator, so I was thinking of just hooking up the hose to one of the filter mounts (and capping the other).

@DeanCording 3 жыл бұрын

The connectors on the hose on my mask have swivels built-in so you can do them up without twisting the hose.

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

This one does too but they're verrrrry stiff

@howardrichburg2398 Жыл бұрын

A vacuum cleaner hose connector should work. 2 layers of Blue shopn towels are pretty close to a nosh 95 mask.

@jjppres 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. Thanks for being so thourough. I like you wasn't paying the money for a Versaflow. I settled on the Trend Air full face. It's a lot more like the Versaflow as far as the mask goes but the air and filtration is all on the top of the helmet. I was afraid it would be heavy and akward but it is not. It wears easy and works great. A little more expensive than yours. I paid $375.00 US for mine.

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

I've heard very good things about them! I sort of consider them to be the halfway point between this and the VersaFlo. I'd love to try one myself one day, but they're still a bit pricey for me.

@MrSoloun 3 жыл бұрын

Greta Vid, you convinced me to try one, $143 from Aussies seller including delivery. I am a casual maker and while I loved how the Versa looked, easy to use, great protection etc. I just can't justify that sort of money, but I'd still like to be protected. The main mod I'd like would be tear away's or replaced covers for the mask, the belt clip is a good idea. You might also be able to buy the Versa mask and hook this pump to it? 3M, give this man a mask, it will get you some sales I reckon :)

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

I had thought to look up getting just the VersaFlo helmet on its own to use with this, but even just the helmet is around $700! 😐

@FlakeBoss Жыл бұрын

I have done exactly this I bought the helmet for around 300 and also the breathing hose for it which was about $60 and made an adapter to use regular 3m respirator filters with this system. I used it just like this guy did at first but wanted the versaflo helmet and also didn't like how heavy these air hoses were in this original system but for the price this thing couldn't be beat i used it for 2 full paint jobs on cars as well as small paint jobs.

@stadleroux Жыл бұрын

Great review, thank you very much, I think I'm sold! I think I would look for something that can go around the hose and clip onto my clothing somewhere in front to take the weight off my face..

@ValhallaIronworks Жыл бұрын

Good call!

@alexanderabel9543 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a used versaflo helmet on ebay for cheap and bought a different brand filter with motor/pump. I adapted the hose to work but that was years ago and now the pump motor is going out. I may get one of these and adapt it to my versaflo helmet.

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

Good deal!

@danielmoss2089 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one buddy. well made and thought out video. I wonder how easy it would be to get this system to fit on to one other type masks. I think this might be a good way to build up to a full versaflo system. I will also add i'm sure the versaflo is top notch but there are other branded and non branded papr systems out there at half the price of the M3 product that work just as well the Esab G- series for example. your honestly paying for a name with the versaflo. My opinion and you know what they say about opinions there like axxx holes! Full of sh@X. ps loved the video and im sure you do have a very big head lol. xx

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

Personally I'd love to have one of each system to be able to do a TOTAL side by side comparison! I just need to get sponsored by like eight different companies hahahaha

@graemeaskew4855 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video, in fact so good that no wording in search box on eBay has yet brought up a a respirator like the one you reviewed ? Has all stock been bought out by every Knife maker and blacksmith in Oz?

@ValhallaIronworks 2 жыл бұрын

haha I can still find them! Try searching eBay for "Battery Air fed Mask"

@stadleroux Жыл бұрын

I found several at a whole range of prices, all of them with the photo of that chap in the blue plastic suit, when I googled 'fresh air supply mask'.

@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 3 жыл бұрын

So I'm curious if one could find a "T" port or "L" port to attatch the air hose to the bottom of the mask itself? Might make a more comfortable hose placement over one or both shoulders. I'd reckon some sort of microban style cleaning stuff fit for a CPAP device would work well for the moisture and bad stuff abaitment?

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

That seems to be the consensus. I just wouldn't want it to impede the ease of taking the helmet on or off. Really, though, you do get used to having the hose hanging there and it's not too bad.

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

It's an interesting point about the CPAP style mod though. I'll have to look into that!

@Vdubba 2 жыл бұрын

Can you buy canister filters of the shelve which will screw into yhe air fed mask pack ? Thinking if I can use a filter for spray paint or at least 2k primer dust particles. Thanks a lot

@ValhallaIronworks 2 жыл бұрын

You sure can! Takes standard fitted cans. I'm not totally sure if there are different diameters around in different countries, but I've tried a few different cans with it and they all fit!

@newera4k333 Жыл бұрын

i was having trouble finding the actual name of this respirator you are reviewing, i am looking to invest in one.

@ValhallaIronworks Жыл бұрын

If you do a search for things like "Air fed respirator" or "Constant Full Flow respirator" it should come up! There's no one name for them unfortunately.

@troyjackson9402 2 жыл бұрын

Since it has that neck seal, could the white "nose cone" be removed and the airflow still function? I have glasses and they generally don't do well with those nose pieces.

@ValhallaIronworks 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it doesn't have a neck seal. The white nose cone acts a bit like a normal respirator does, cupping against your face around your mouth and nose. I can see that being an issue with glasses-wearers, unfortunately.

@BoraHorzaGobuchul Жыл бұрын

I'd go for airshield pro for that.

@OBSLyfe 2 жыл бұрын

Do you recommend it for painting cars do u think it has a good seal

@ValhallaIronworks 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a blacksmith, mate, I've never painted a car in my life. I wouldn't have a clue. The seal is pretty damn solid, though. If you take the hose off and put your hand over the hole and try breathing in, you get absolutely nothing but suction. Not even a whistle. Plus, I've spent entire 8 hour days grinding steel in this thing and felt fresh as a daisy afterwards. Normally that kind of thing makes me feel like I've been tongue-kissing a cactus.

@ShamrockKnives 3 жыл бұрын

Best part of the video was when you removed the mask and I saw that handsome face!

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

Oh you!

@nickgc1234 2 жыл бұрын

I got one delivered and they didnt send me the tube fittings or the filter i have no idea what to look for or where can any one help .

@ValhallaIronworks 2 жыл бұрын

You can buy just the mask, or the whole kit. Did you perhaps just buy the mask? It would have been about $60? Or did it also have the fan pack in there, too?

@nickgc1234 2 жыл бұрын

No bought the whole outfit not just the mask. No tubes or filter. Tried to contact them but. Never replied. So need to find tubes and filter. Have power pack mask and charger. That's all.

@nickgc1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@ValhallaIronworks No bought the whole outfit not just the mask. No tubes or filter. Tried to contact them but. Never replied. So need to find tubes and filter. Have power pack mask and charger. That's all.

@GbodySS_LsX 3 ай бұрын

Can use while painting automotive chemicals

@ValhallaIronworks 3 ай бұрын

I think I say in the video it only works for particulates, not fumes and vapours

@SamTownsBladesmith 3 жыл бұрын

First!

@llewynful 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone got a link for these? I'm only seeing one like this for 400 on Ebay. Or has the inflation on these really kicked in XD

@ValhallaIronworks 2 жыл бұрын

Do a search for "Air Fed Respirator" and it should help! Here's a (long) link to one if it helps! www.ebay.com.au/itm/363515914880?hash=item54a33caa80:g:v74AAOSwUithIzVu&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4BXoSGRY2QpjzNYEZbflT6q6QIJUUojW2JWZA5ckRgqN7BPKMr%2FTj8s%2BbEXKkdiSPZwZ7hyDjta3gy5bLpHOLMihc4Ytzixwb6F%2Bb1r0SIzeS0Fl0whFelrVa8cd7AZs21RJwgBU8wCnhARoyPLJ189sK9PE6tsupFV688a5QQkGS4pz3pz8MWZWNzk1gcvxny%2FbuBZeZaZuT3J3ZjvD5uWyPm459TjcnNbj2msKwPjugLO16nrmKSEt7XZkvuBuKtfru%2BOfdAfb2UpsHin%2FpF3tPkF6OnUAYxS5Dh%2FPPsY2%7Ctkp%3ABFBM_KK80MBg&frcectupt=true

@llewynful 2 жыл бұрын

@@ValhallaIronworks Thanks for the speedy reply mate. I was searching powered respirator. You still digging the unit? I'm tossing up between this and the trend airshield but being able to modify the unit to be able to swap hepa/chemical filters sounds like a potentially good feature of these. You mention these units are tight but that you have a big head, I struggle to find motorbike helmets that will fit my head. Like XL of many brands will not fit. Don't suppose you know your motorbike helmet size? lol

@ValhallaIronworks 2 жыл бұрын

@@llewynful I'm actually planning on getting a trend airshield next! I see it as halfway between this and a VersaFlo, so by reviewing it I'll have shown pretty much all of the options! I don't know my helmet size sorry lol

@BoraHorzaGobuchul Жыл бұрын

Positive pressure keeps MOST of the stuff out if the seal is imperfect. But air flow is a complex thing, and particularly with facial hair, there is a possibility, rather a certainty, that some air with pollutants will still flow inside the mask. It will be a tiny amount, but depending on the pollutants, it may be suboptimal. Note firefighting gear has even better positive pressure but still facial hair is not the thing with firefighters.

@ValhallaIronworks Жыл бұрын

We're making knives here, mate, not entering pandemic ground zero.

@bosshawg7427 11 ай бұрын

It sounds like you're applying the drawbacks to your specifics, which is understandable to point, but at the same time, it's up to the end user's discretion for their own use and safety. That's common sense.

@douglasfathers4848 3 жыл бұрын

Made I China no thanks, Even for nothing . :(

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

Mate whatever device it is you made this comment on, guaranteed a bulk of the parts were made in China. Saying no to something just because of where it was made is foolish and ignorant. Ask instead whether it serves it purpose well. In this case, it does.

@SamTownsBladesmith 3 жыл бұрын

A large portion of all equipment we use, including the vaunted 3m versaflo are made in 3m's 8 factories in China lol. I imagine more than half the stuff you use on a daily basis is either wholly or in part made in China, Taiwan, or Thailand.

@MrSoloun 3 жыл бұрын

@@SamTownsBladesmith Sad truth, it would be good if it were otherwise but it isn't.

@douglasfathers4848 3 жыл бұрын

@@ValhallaIronworks Well Apennines are like arse holes every one has but they are all different .

@ValhallaIronworks 3 жыл бұрын

@@douglasfathers4848 justify it however you want mate, it's still just blatant racism and it's not welcome on my channel.